Abolish Cash? Hell No, Says German Economist. Notes and Coins Are 'Printed Freedom.'
Evading state control is a feature, not a bug

The other day I mentioned a proposal by German government economic advisor Peter Bofinger to abolish cash, because the anonymous stuff makes it too easy for people to escape the oh-so good intentions of central banks, regulators, and tax collectors. It turns out his scheme sparked not just a wide-ranging international discussion, but an immediate, and very strong, reaction from one of his colleagues. According to Deutsche Welle:
But German economist Bofinger's hope that paper money will soon be a thing of the past was immediately contested by Freiburg-based economist Lars Feld, who said that banknotes are pieces of "printed freedom" that citizens were entitled to - because they should be entitled to an escape from all-out state control.
Feld's opinion on this point matters because he is also an economic advisor to the German government. His official quote in that capacity suggests just a tad more respect for individual autonomy than Bofinger offers. "In a liberal society and economy, control lies ideally with sovereign citizens in the political arena and sovereign consumers in the economic arena. The interests of the citizens are the only legitimate source for decisions taken on the political stage."
In the past, I've cited Feld's work on Swiss tax evasion rates and the role that "tax morale" plays in deterring people from hiding their money. Basically, if people are relatively pleased with the system, they'll pay more than you'd expect by looking at enforcement efforts; if they get pissed at the powers that be, all bets are off.
The Deutsche Welle piece goes on to note that much of Scandinavia appears to be moving away from cash for reasons of its own that are largely matters of popular choice. But abolishing cash as a top-down policy preference is a different matter.
Unilaterally starting such a system would no doubt be risky, as another nation's paper currency might gain popularity within countries that abolish their own paper currency, says Kenneth Rogoff [a Harvard economist who also wants to be rid of the stuff]. Hence, he concludes, "any attempt to eliminate large-denomination currency would ideally be taken up in a treaty to include, at the vey least, the major global currencies."
I wonder what the tax morale effects of trying to stuff the abolition of cash down the throats of the public would be?
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...banknotes are pieces of "printed freedom" that citizens were entitled to - because they should be entitled to an escape from all-out state control.
We have an anarchist in the German government! You know what that can lead to.
Cabarets?
State printed notes are freedom from the state?
Not gonna say it. Na-ah. No way. NO. Not. Going. To Say. His. Name.
/no longer can resist.
HITLER.
The first rule of Hitler club - we don't talk about Hitler!
But since the dam is broken -
Say can what you like about Hitler - but he did kill Hitler.
You know who else killed Hitler?
I can't talk about it. But I know.
The Threepenny Opera?
In the past, I've cited Feld's work on Swiss tax evasion rates and the role that "tax morale" plays in deterring people from hiding their money.
Are you insinuatin' that Swiss people know how to hide money?!
Not as well as they should! But better than Americans, for sure.
*slow smile spreads across face*
I can't think of a more efficient way of re-introducing a commodity based currency to an economy than banning government printed cash. Go for it governments!
^^^ THIS!!!!!!
What commodity would you pick?
It depends on who you are expecting to trade with and where the trades are going to take place.
In my daughter's school, chewing gum sticks are the current currency....
Cell phone minutes work well in parts of Africa.
I think scrip backed by diesel would go very, very far.
So it could be very localized. I was thinking more of a standard across a vast area for ease of exchange.
Whisky.
Don't mind if I do.
*extends beat up tin cup*
*tops off cup*
Starts humming "In the Big Rock Candy Mountains".
I too remember the summer when blue grass was embraced by America.
*salutes picture of George Clooney*
I knew the lyrics to that song before the movie came out, so when my wife and I were watching it, I sang along.... she was bewildered and impressed.
My wife hates blue grass and is a big U2 fan. She still hasn't forgiven "oh brother" for U2 not getting album of the year.
HA!
That happens eventually, but the standard is chosen bottom up.
Whatever thing the most people will accept under the table. Typically that ends up being gold and silver, but there's nothing set in stone that it has to be those. It could just as easily be bottles of whiskey or packs of cigarettes.
I am adopting your whisky suggestion!
I was thinking water, because it is useful universally, but fresh water is readily available some places and not others. Money really is a brilliant invention when you stop to think about it.
Been done.
http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Water_Rings
Nothing's original. I take it as a blessing from the Internet, that I need not try to be clever.
Water would only work in a place with a perpetual shortage of water. Good luck getting a guy in Seattle to trade his used car for X amount of water, but it might work in the Sahara.
In my mind I was thinking of a note backed by water. But the value of water isn't universal like you say.
whiskey will be adulterated and the cigarettes stale. gold and silver are genuinely fungible, very little else is.
Toilet paper
Good one.
Pretty sure it's being used in Venezuela as money even as we speak.
Other way around. Money is being used as toilet paper.
BURN!!!
Both, you wipe yer butt with the government printed paper, and trade yer actual toilet paper for veggies.
I've been thinking the same thing. I'm ready for the entire country to turn into Deadwood. The only difference is the Indians would be the good guys this time.
Would they still own the casinos?
My teen years were spent in inflation that was (according to wikipedia) 10^27% in a four year period. You may as well not have cash at that point - but all it meant was that German Mark was the king (presumably Euro later, but I got out before that). So, say, Germany opting out of cash would mean good news for US Dollar.
What country was this?
That has to be alt-text of the week, well, to me at least.
Render to Merkel that which is Merkel's...
another nation's paper currency might gain popularity within countries that abolish their own paper currency
Gresham's Law, in reverse.
In the Southeastern 1/3 of Afghanistan, when the Talib currency collapsed, and the new gov't hadn't gotten the presses up and running, the Pakistani Rupee was the currency used by almost everyone.
I read arguments like this for cash, agree with them, and I think to myself, "Space travel".
By the end of my lifetime, the only place left where people have some kind of reasonable hope for living in a free society may necessarily involve space travel. And soon, surveillance from the state may make life aboard a spacecraft seem less stifling than life on earth. How long can we resist having all that surveillance and not using it for its logical purposes?
Will we be free to drive ourselves 25 years from now? I have little doubt but that we'll be tracked everywhere we go. They're already monitoring our communications. We already account for every penny we make on an annual basis--under the threat of criminal prosecution. Will we be able to buy and sell things without the government tracking what we buy and sell?
"And [the Beast] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the Beast, or the number of his name."
----Revelation 13: 16-17, KJV
Christian fundamentalists used to be paranoid about this shit. Thank God for such paranoia. What will we do without it?
Maybe space travel.
Jesus in Spaaaaaaace
He's Jesus out in space
He's zooming along
protecting the Christian race
He's Jesus out in space
If trouble appears
he'll put it right back in its place
When Romans attack us
We will not give 'em a smack
We'll turn our cheek right back in the face
He's Jesus out in space
He's zooming along
protecting the Christian race
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WHAT KIND OF "cash"?
WHAT KIND OF "cash"?
I prefer gold doubloons.
Should a bot pay in Bitcoin?
"In a liberal society and economy, control lies ideally with sovereign citizens in the political arena and sovereign consumers in the economic arena."
Whelp, looks like this terrorist just lost the progressives.
I find Von Mises regression theorem quite convincing. Money is a trade good of some sort and history shows that monetary metals are civilized societies choice. Thus money IS coins (just as our constitution states). Bank notes are promises to pay such coins. We have chosen to get rid of money and keep irredeemable bank notes. It was and is a mistake. Getting rid of the bank notes too is the response of an utter idiot.
Re: mr burns,
Or of an evil genius. You can't put your digital dollars in a shoebox under the tree. Doing away with currency makes it easier to plunder the savings of all us fools who keep money in the banks.
Au, this is all becoming tedious.
Frankenstein or scents, what evs.
Not trading with you. That shit's nasty.
Scent of Frankenstein..... nah.
*gags*