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Sens. Rand Paul and Ron Wyden's Filibuster Goal: A Better USA Freedom Act

They want amendments to make surveillance reforms stronger.

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We're about eight hours in on the filibuster launched by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ron Wyden (D-Ore). Matt Welch hit several of the highlights of the filibuster thus far here.

But Paul and Wyden do have a specific aim in mind beyond just keeping Section 215 of the PATRIOT Act from being renewed as is. What they want, Paul has explained during the filibuster, is for when the Senate takes up the USA Freedom Act, to permit amendments to make the act stronger.

I am not going to go over all the details of the USA Freedom Act twice in one day, so please read my piece about it earlier today if you're unclear. I do not promise that you'll actually be more clear about it after reading. That's part of the problem. Privacy advocates see many gaps in what the USA Freedom Act offers by way of surveillance reform. But when the USA Freedom Act was passed in the House, amendments were not permitted at all. What Paul and Wyden want is for Senate leadership to allow for amendments. "My concern with the USA Freedom Act is that it still may allow for a bulk collection," he said.

Also, here's where confusion about what the USA Freedom Act does and doesn't allow comes in. The reforms require more specific search terms and requires the identification of a specific person in order to prevent mass collection of huge numbers of innocent people's data and records. The definition of "person" in this context does include corporations. Paul has said several times in the filibuster that he's afraid the NSA will just plug in "Verizon" as a specific term and just collect bulk data again. Business as usual.

BUT! The USA Freedom Act specifically forbids using a telecom company or Internet service provider as a search term.

BUT! The USA Freedom Act then immediately makes an exception, and that is if the telecom company or Internet service provider is itself the subject of an investigation.

So, Paul is wrong on the basic facts here. The USA Freedom Act does not permit just naming "Verizon" as the target and going right back to bulk data collection. However, given how much the NSA has bent the language of Section 215 already just to get us where we are right now, I would not consider it to be paranoid to think that the NSA would somehow try to declare that Verizon actually is the target of an investigation just to keep it all going

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  3. Rand just mentioned Radley Balko!

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    2. I hope it was Twitter that made that screenshot into an atrociously low-quality JPEG and not her. Libertarian woman or not, that’s unacceptable.

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  7. “[…]BUT! […] BUT![…]”

    So if there are a sufficient number of contradictory, dependent clauses, (probably an odd number) the government can do whatever it pleases and if brought to the bench, can claim that any other interpretation is the result of a typo?
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  9. So I gave up on Sons of Anarchy after the second season and was happy to do so as the show was total shit.

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    1. And I recall that in season one or two Opie blew up a bunch of survivalist types and no one seemed to notice. Sure it was in a wilderness area, but did no hikers ever stumble upon the bodies? None of their families ever reported them missing? No investigation was ever done?

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      1. The show had me for a few seasons but it became preposterous (which is saying something because it was already preposterous). It was also staid and formulaic.

        From what I can tell there has been very little verified information about what happened in Waco. I mean, the police said there was 1,000 weapons, but what are they counting as a weapon? Things like that. It is just speculation.

        That being said, Ron Perlman was awesome

        1. He is. He didn’t get the proper recognition for a great small role in Drive.

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      I only tolerate him because he sort of is supporting Rand.

      The Fleet-footed Man-machine is WAY more entertaining, though I’m kind of worried, because he may have said he can’t feel his fingers. I can’t be sure. All I know is that his hangover is going to be EPIC.

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  22. I might regret this but, what the Hell?, it’s only an hour. I’m going to watch David Letterman for the last time. Can’t say I’ve seen more than a few minutes of the show in the past 15-20 years but I really enjoyed it back in the 1980s-early90s. I hope Drew Barrymore shows up. Bette Davis definitely won’t be there. Probably no Crispin Glover either. And no musical guest quite like Robyn Hitchcock

    1. Saved by my total lack of an attention span!

  23. It’s over.

  24. What the fuck?

    I leave this place for dinner, and this is what happens?

    Every one of you is on timeout.

    I’m so fucking disappointed.

    1. Was it the Lomo Saltado?

  25. “The USA Freedom Act specifically forbids using a telecom company or Internet service provider as a search term.”
    So it could use, say, a credit card company?

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  27. The USA Freedom Act would allow mass surveillance to continue, but for liberty to survive the war on terror, “the agencies need to be erased.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hciiZbJph1c

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