New York Resists Court-Ordered Release of 'Assault Weapon' Registration Data
Do the numbers tell us something they don't want to reveal?
On April 30, New York Judge Thomas J. McNamara ordered the state government to reveal how many people have registered their guns as "assault weapons" in compliance with the controversial SAFE Act. The order came in response to a lawsuit filed last October, after the state police refused a request for the data submitted in January 2014. State officials insist that releasing the information—aggregate data on how many people complied wth the law—would violate New Yorkers' privacy rights. Judge McNamara didn't buy the argument. Nobody does.
New York's state Committee on Open Government, an official body charged with trying to ensure that state officials occasionally give their constituents a glimpse of just what they're up to, had already told the state to 'fess up. In an advisory opinion released last October, the committee admonished that "none of the discretionary exceptions appearing in…the Freedom of Information Law would permit the State Police to deny access to aggregate data regarding firearm and assault weapon permits."

So far, nobody but Governor Cuomo's office, and the State Police subject to his orders, seem to believe the state should be keeping this information secret. Yet, after a couple of weeks of crickets following Judge McNamara's order, a New York State Police representative responded to my friendly "so, whatcha doin'?" query by noting that "The State Police is considering an appeal of the court ruling. The release of the data is on hold until that decision is made."
Why so coy, folks?
Groups like the Shooters Committee on Political Education bet that the numbers of compliant gun owners are vanishingly small. When the SAFE Act passed, New Yorkers vowed, in large numbers, to defy the registration law. Neighboring Connecticut, which pased a similarly restrictive statute, received about 50,000 applications for "assault weapon" registrations out of an estimated (by the state legislature) 372,000 rifles covered by the law. There was much rending of clothes and gnashing of teeth in response to the mass disobedience, with the Hartford Courant editorial board ludicrously threatening to send the cops after everybody.
Estimates put the number of "assault weapons" in New York at about one million, though nobody knows for sure. It's a politically defined category and many weapons can be rendered legal by swapping a part or two without changing the function of the firearm.
And this is New York. If Connecticut residents are telling the authorities to get stuffed, it wouldn't be surprising if New York compliance figures are even lower. Defiance of gun restrictions is, after all, the worldwide historical norm rather than the exception.
But we'll have to wait to find out for sure, while New York officials consider kicking the ball down the road just a little farther.
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What's an assault rifle?
Every long gun ever made.
Even my 18" Boom Stick from S-Mart?
Was it made in Grand Rapids?
I've been asking that same question for years
a scary name used to scare people.
When you use it like a bat to blungeon someone?
Pants shitters are gonna shit
To avoid compliance during the appeals process, wouldn't the state have to seek an order staying the decision during the appeal? Otherwise, how is this legal? Not an expert in this area of the law or in New York law, but it sounds a little, well, illegal.
Otherwise, how is this legal?
You know the answer. Repeat after me...
Because Fuck You, that's why.
You know, I refuse to accept that. It may be what is happening, but we don't do ourselves any favors not protesting these blatant violations of the law every single time. And we used to be such a strong people, once.
We are the domesticated descendents of once-free people.
Indeed!
You'd think the judge would do the protesting since he's the one effectively neutered.
Contempt powers, bitches.
How many divisions does the judge have?
Yeah, I don't think the state can go that far. If they do, the shit would really hit the fan, and it's not impossible the feds would intervene.
We could use some crises like that, to be honest.
Yep, who's going to make the arrest?
Rusty the bailiff. Ambling right on down the road, taking politicians to the clink.
State officials insist that releasing the information?aggregate data on how many people complied wth the law?would violate New Yorkers' privacy rights.
That's rich.
Assault weapons ban fanatics are worried it will be shown that assault weapons arent used to commit crimes (vast majority).
Also guns used in crimes dont come from gun shows
Yeah, Connecticut is mostly compliant soccer moms. The 2/3 of NY from Albany south are the obnoxious assholes we all know and love, and the rest might as well be Kentucky. This battle ought to get interesting.
The 2/3 of NY from Albany south are the obnoxious assholes we all know and love...
I'd say the obnoxious assholes are generally confined south of 287 but I get what you are saying.
Yeah, I was mostly being flippant but the NYC culture does extend well north of I-287. There is no exact point at which it turns into Appalachia.
And this is New York. If Connecticut residents are telling the authorities to get stuffed, it wouldn't be surprising if New York compliance figures are even lower.
Really? The state the gleefully elected a carpet-bagging Clinton to a Senate seat? I would think that people would be happy to goose step their way to total compliance.
You would think wrong. Democrats get elected here (just like anywhere) because they offer free shit.
So, extremely narrowly targeted libertarian moments.
So someone explain to what I'm not getting here. The idea is that state officials don't want to release this data because they're afraid it will show that the law they passed isn't effective?
Is it just me or does this seem like something that could backfire?
It's just you. This will not backfire unless the estimated total is revised downward by an order of magnitude.
I guess I'm still not getting it. Walk me through the possible outcomes.
If the compliance figures are abysmally low, you won't have the newspaper of record calling for mass arrests like in Connecticut?
It would embarrass mr big-ego, thin skin governer Cuomo. He can't have that.
The compliance numbers in January were around 6,000. SIX THOUSAND. Out of an estimated 1,000,000.
Then you beat the gun grabbers over the head during election time about how they criminalized nearly a million New Yorkers for their personal, non-violent behavior.
If the NYT is stupid enough to advocate arresting a million people, then let them.
The ruling calls on the New York State Police to immediately release statistics that show how many guns are registered and how many people registered them.
April 30, eh? Why hasn't Judge McNamara jailed the state government for contempt?
That question has been asked many times (with different judges)
Contempt is for little people.
Because the Executive Branch controls all the men with guns, so the Judiciary has no actual enforcement power against it?
"BAILIFF!"
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Look At This. ???? http://www.jobsfish.com
Gura and SAF win another in DC:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html
His batting average just keeps going up.
Sounds a lot like a rebellion to me. Very anarchic. Tony's head will explode.