Baltimore Cops Face 'Credible Threats', Businessmen Atone for Meeting With Ted Cruz, Hillary's Taste for Censorship Gets a Second Look: P.M. Links

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  Baltimore Police Department

  Baltimore street gangs angry over the death in custody of Freddie Gray have vowed lethal retaliation against cops, claims the city's police department. Gray's funeral was today.

• The debate over the proposed Iran deal is hot and heavy in the Senate, where opponents plan to do it in with "poison-pill amendments."
• President Obama's recent use of drones in an incident that killed two hostages received grudging support from…Rand Paul? Paul, known as a drone critic, said the hostage-takers were legitimate targets.
• The gay businessmen who hosted a meeting with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Uncool-kids) have made the obligatory Maoist self-denunciations.
• Hillary Clinton's long-standing prudery when it comes to sexual and violent media content gets a little revived scrutiny. She tried to criminalize the sale of some video games to minors not so long ago.
• China and India are both courting Nepalese favor with earthquake relief efforts. Hey, whatever gets the blankets and rice distributed.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

Baltimore street gangs angry over the death in custody of Freddie Gray have vowed lethal retaliation against cops...

Self fulfilling prophesy?

[Fist of Etiquette]

(But with a c.)

[Los Doyers]

Only true crips intentionally replace letters with c's. *brandishes lightsaber* I will do what I must.

[Fist of Etiquette]

You failed, your cripness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me. LOOK AT ALL MY MEDI-CHLORIANS.

[Andrew S.]

Complete and utter bullshit made up so they can change the narrative. Judging from their Facebook page, it's working. The law & order "kill all the thugs, police should do whatever they can to go home safe at night" group is out in force now.

[Idle Hands]

As usual thought there seems to be derp on all sides. Saying that the rioters and looters are scum and deserve to be taken down like the animals they are, means I'm a racist. Now following that up by saying that if they would take that rage out on the people who are directly responsible for these injustices, namely the Baltimore City Gov., and I would be more sympathetic, means I'm a cop hating anarchist(which is probably closer to the mark). I generally just counter that I'm not a racist or an anarchist just an asshole.

[Tonio]

Why not all three? Don't give in to their bigotry of low expectations, Idle.

[Idle Hands]

I do tend to sell myself short, tonio. I guess it's just low t.

[Vampire]

If you're not an anarchist yet then you're a mini slaver.

:0P.

[Ted S.]

I thought the cops were the street gang. Why would they be unhappy over the death of Freddie Gray?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Hello.

I love you all.

[Hamster of Doom]

How many drinks have you had so far?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

ZERO!

It's pure.

[Hamster of Doom]

Hey, that reminds me... Where's Agile Cyborg?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I don't think he'll be out of bed until at least sunset.

[Bobarian (sexbot hand model)]

You say bed, I say coffin...

Toe-may-toe, psilocybin-o

[Crusty Juggler]

AC made it pretty clear last night that he loves all of us.

He is like Jesus, except instead of dying for our sins he huffs massive quantities of gasoline while drinking cheap Canadian beer for our sins.

[Los Doyers]

Rufus has pioneered the art of fermenting the maple syrup from the tree in his backyard into hooch. And I'm part French Canadian somewhere on my grandpa's side so that wasn't racist.

[Ted S.]

Hating the French-Canadians is a virtue.

(Isn't Rufus an allophone?)

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Yes. I am an allophone. I have the PQ ID tattoo imprinted on the inside of my wrist.

HOOOOOOCH!

You ain't a man until you've had real Canadian Hooch - preferably with origins unknown.

[Los Doyers]

Does it burn going down?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

YES. JUST LIKE OLIVE OIL IS SUPPOSED TO PINCH.

[Enough About Palin]

Do they make liquor out of maple syrup? One would think it were fermentable.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Yes they do.

[Hamster of Doom]

Would you like a recipe?

[Pan Zagloba]

That sounds delicious. I should check my liquor store and see if they have a mass-produced equivalent.

[Los Doyers]

I like your taste in hooch, HoD. Mind if I subscribe to your newsletter?

[jesse.in.mb]

Stop pretending you're literate, Los Doyers, You aren't fooling anyone and it's just getting embarrassing.

[Los Doyers]

Ahem, I'm trying to spit some game here, Jesse. Why won't all these gays stop cock blocking?!?!?!

[jesse.in.mb]

Look, I'm trying to embarrass you to protect you from embarrassing yourself. BECAUSE I CARE.

[Enough About Palin]

But this just maple-flavored mead. Does anyone just ferment the pure syrup?

[Hamster of Doom]

That wasn't what you asked! What am I, Google? It's Canada, gods knows what they get up to in that wild, foreign land.

[Tonio]

Not sure if the pure syrup would ferment, for the same reason honey doesn't - not enough water.

[DEG]

These guys have a Maple Wine. I tried it once, the maple taste was overwhelming.

[Ted S.]

Including Bo and Shreek?

[Pan Zagloba]

He's THAT hammered.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

So apparently, Emma Sulkowicz gave a talk at Brown University last week.
Read some of her choice quotes here.

Hat Tip:
Nicole T. Worst

Middle Finger:
Epsisiarch

[Injun, as in from India]

LIAR LIAR MATTRESS ON FIRE!

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

In case the link didn't work.

[Tonio]

Nope, that one doesn't work, either.

[Hey Nikki!]

Search for #BrownSAAM. Scroll to bottom (until it stops auto-refreshing). Read from bottom up: a live-tweet of a "talk" Sulkowicz gave at Brown on 4/16.

[Injun, as in from India]

Here is a screen shot of some of the quotes.

[Tonio]

"they disqualify other types of knowledge" While absolutely correct, that's some serious stupid.

[Hey Nikki!]

It's all rather lame and Foucauldian.

[RBS]

She really hates "proof".

[Hey Nikki!]

You're so welcome.

[jesse.in.mb]

Epsisiarch

You know who else misspelled commenters' names?

[Tonio]

Hitler?

[Pro Libertate]

You mean Mr. Hilter?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

President Hitler. This isn't the NYTimes.

[Pro Libertate]

Mr. Hilter of Minehead is English and not eligible for the presidency.

[Doctor Whom]

Beinrich Bimmler?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

John?

[John]

That is because I am worse than Hitler.

[tarran]

/frantically bookmarks page for use in future arguments when ammunition has run out and a final bayonet charge ad hominem attack is the only choice.

[Ted S.]

But not as bad as Nicole.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Jonh?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Jesse, I just did that out of a lack of respect for him.

[Tonio]

Linky no work. Takes you to Twitter search page.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Sorry, it keeps redirecting.
Just search #Brownsaam

[Injun, as in from India]

#BrownSam?

RAACIST!

[Crusty Juggler]

Hot.

[Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns]

I saw that and can't stop laughing.

Feminists are now basically admitting that facts don't matter.

[Injun, as in from India]

Facts DO matter to them, but they are discounted at 78 cents on the dollar.

[PapayaSF]

+1

[Crusty Juggler]

In saying I expose the truth, the viewer superimposes their truth upon mine, and once again silences me.

[Crusty Juggler]

"I hope it is clear -- when it comes to sexual violence, scientific proof is impossible."

[Doctor Whom]

They've been saying that logic doesn't matter since at least the eighties.

[GILMORE]

The amusing thing is that Emma (and the Brownies) seem to think that the kind of "Bullshit Deconstructionist Lingo" that scores you points writing a paper on Po-Mo literary theory is somehow *equally effective* when discussing something like 'criminal justice' issues.

they think they're going to win arguments about "why Due Process should be abandoned" and evade any need for "substantiation of criminal claims".... by appealing to post-structuralist understandings of what "reality" really is.

it would be funny if there weren't millions of dumbass kids who think she has a point.

[Episiarch]

It's the only way she knows, dude. Of course she's going to go there. It worked for her all through school, right?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

NO!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

You suck! Repeatedly.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Here are some good ones:
"If we use proof in rape cases, we fall into the patterns of rape deniers." --Emma S

"It all comes back to my truth vs the truth that everyone wants to impose on me."-Emma S

"I care too much about all of you to have any agency of my own."

"When people engage in believing in me, they objectify me." --Emma S

"If truth is scientific, then art cannot access truth. But perhaps there is something beyond the truth." - Emma Sulkowicz

[Andrew S.]

Is this a Derpetologist-like "Spot the Not"? If so, I go with #3.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

No "nots".

She may as well have written the book "If I Did It".

[Notorious G.K.C.]

This sounds like something a satirist would invent.

Is there a video or transcript?

[Hey Nikki!]

Not that I've seen, but the Twitter sources suggest it is very real. They are supporters.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

supporters? Wow.

[Tonio]

There was video, but the feminist committee for unaccountability is furiously editing it.

[Hey Nikki!]

My fave by far:

"Survivors do not regain our bodies after the rape, we realize that we never really owned them in the first place"-Emma Sulkowicz #BrownSAAM

[Hamster of Doom]

Not as if she would know.

Just wanted to say that out loud. As it were.

[Hey Nikki!]

Well, no. Because she doesn't own her body, so she literally couldn't have been raped!

[Tonio]

So. Much. Hate. I'm proud of you, Nicole.

[Enough About Palin]

"Survivors do not regain our bodies after the rape, we realize that we never really owned them in the first place"-Emma Sulkowicz Fuck Me in the Butt Girl #BrownSAAM

FIFY

[Pro Libertate]

Well, her solipsism can't be right, because I'm sitting here thinking and existing.

[Ted S.]

Cogito ergo cogito

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

"Artists aren't problem solvers, we create problems for ourselves." - Emma Sulkowicz

"It doesn't matter what they say, they're going to pick the words they want to use to construct their narrative."- Emma Sulkowicz

"If we keep trying to 'prove that it exists' we will never get anywhere" -Emma S

"When people demand proof of an act of sexual violence, ask yourself why they want to frame this as a science." - Emma Sulkowicz

[Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns]

"It doesn't matter what they say, they're going to pick the words they want to use to construct their narrative."- Emma Sulkowicz

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHA

This is my favorite.

[Crusty Juggler]

You and your faster fingers.

[Injun, as in from India]

"It doesn't matter what they say, they're I'm going to pick the words they mattress I want to use to construct their my narrative."- Emma Sulkowicz

[PBR Streetgang]

Just when I think I've heard it all. Wow. The observation that she, and people like her, 'create problems for ourselves', is spot on.

[Tonio]

Yeah, that's comedy gold. History will not be kind to her, I fear.

[Pro Libertate]

Unless people like her win. Then we'll be in camps. Well, for a while, anyway.

[Not an Economist]

Don't forget, she is an Artist.

[GILMORE]

The expression "Don't quit your day job, Picasso" occurred to me

[Rufus J. Firefly]

She's certifiable.

Then again, it takes a flake to carry a mattress around.

If I saw that I'd ask her to put it down and put it to good use.

Get it?

[Crusty Juggler]

Oh, I get. I get it good.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I get it. In her butt.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

And, again, WHY isn't this woman in prison?

[Hamster of Doom]

Consequences are a tool. Inflicting them on her would serve no benefit to Top Men.

[CatoTheElder]

It's obvious: Any prosecutor worth his salt knows that she'd beat the charges with an insanity defense.

But seriously, in any case, indicting and trying the case would cause too much grief for the prosecutor. Prosecutors are lazy bureaucrats; they like the WoD so much because the nature of most drug crimes is such that they are essentially proven by the evidence confiscated by the cops.

[Raven Nation]

It all comes back to my truth vs the truth that everyone wants to impose on me

Triumph of the post-modernists. Although I think postmodernism has some important points to offer, this is the BS into which it often descends.

[PBR Streetgang]

"Emma Sulkowicz gave a talk at BROWN University" Brown. Of course. Had to be Brown.

[Crusty Juggler]

Why? I do not understand? Why Brown?

[Carl ?s the level]

I believe he's making an anal joke.

[PBR Streetgang]

Yeah that is why. We only just some Mexicans and pot

[Fist of Etiquette]

The debate over the proposed Iran deal is hot and heavy in the Senate...

More federal indictment forthcoming.

[Krieger's Waifu]

You know what else is hot and heavy? My penis.

[tarran]

You... have a heavy penis?!?

WTF is wrong with Krieger?!?

[Pan Zagloba]

Penis, tentacle....

[Hey Nikki!]

Georgetown wants video of the Christina Hoff Sommers event edited:

The University claims that we must edit the video because students who asked questions did not agree to have their faces shown/voices heard.... But it stretches credulity that Georgetown and its students would not understand that the lecture was a public event. The video camera was in plain view, and audience members themselves appear to be taking video and photos. It could not shock any student that he or she was on camera.

In addition, the mission of the protestors at the event was clearly to gain attention. Perhaps we are receiving this request because the students were too successful at gaining attention, and are now embarrassed at the reaction to signs like "Trigger Warning ? antifeminist."

[Pro Libertate]

Usually, if there's video being shot in a situation like that, the shooter posts notices warning participants that hanging around means getting taped. And a further declaration that the tape can be used however the shooter sees fit, up to and including cutting it into a porn film.

[GILMORE]

"the shooter posts notices warning participants that hanging around means getting taped. "

Wow, i totally saw the "T" as an "R"

[Pro Libertate]

It's a tape culture.

[John]

Let me take a guess here and say that the students made asses of themselves and Sommers wiped the floor with their emotional outbursts that were masquerading as arguments. If the unedited video did anything but Sommers look good and the students look bad, Georgetown wouldn't be so keen on editing it.

[Pro Libertate]

Probably a bad idea to try to sanitize something that was doubtlessly taped by participants, too.

[Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns]

They booed when she told them the 'wage gap' would shrink if more women went into STEM fields. According to multiple witnesses, people actually started yelling "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO."

[Hey Nikki!]

No, that was at Oberlin. This is the Georgetown speech from the previous week.

[Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns]

Nicole, I'm sick and tired of you going out of your way to prove to me when I am wrong.

Can't you let me live in ignorance about my own constant failings?

[Ted S.]

Stop being wrong and you won't have that problem.

[Hey Nikki!]

Sigh, okay.

[Episiarch]

You're going to let up on him when you already have him on the ropes? Nicole, I used to think you were the worst.

[Not an Economist]

Irish, Don't admit you are wrong.

It all comes back to your truth vs the truth that everyone wants to impose on you.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

"DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO."

You mean, like a teenager?

[Pro Libertate]

I like how good, practical advice is "othering."

[Brett L]

See, this is why I can't be allowed to be a public figure. I'd draft a letter on my letterhead that said, "in response to your request. No, Go fuck right off."

[Tonio]

+1 Streisand effect

[Injun, as in from India]

The gay businessmen who hosted a meeting with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Uncool-kids) have made the obligatory Maoist self-denunciations.

It was almost like an Ashura self-flagellation too!

[Tonio]

Self-criticism is the most sincere form!

[jesse.in.mb]

Hillary Clinton's long-standing prudery when it comes to sexual and violent media content gets a little revived scrutiny. She tried to criminalize the sale of some video games to minors not so long ago.

I mean, at least she's not Tipper Gore.

[Injun, as in from India]

+1 Public French Kiss

[BiMonSciFiCon]

President Obama's recent use of drones in an incident that killed two hostages received grudging support from...Rand Paul? Paul, known as a drone critic, said the hostage-takers were legitimate targets.

Pand(er) with Rand?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

They are legitimate targets. In an ill-conceived, counterproductive war.

[LynchPin1477]

I think that is exactly the issue.

The loss of civilian life is an ugly part of the reality of war. That's an argument for being damn sure you have a good reason to go to war, but it's not an argument against all war or against all drone strikes.

[Mongo]

I'm surprised that more groups don't use hostages as drone shields.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Paul, known as a drone critic, said the hostage-takers were legitimate targets.

No more filibusters, I guess.

[Tonio]

-1 "ing"

[Andrew S.]

http://mynorthwest.com/992/274.....-campaign-

Seattle's socialist city councilperson structured her campaign so she'd only have to pay her campaign workers as consultants instead of employees. Beautiful hypocrisy here.

[Injun, as in from India]

Deport that b**** already.

Please. On behalf of all the other Indian immigrants who escaped socialism in India and moved to America.

Please!

[Tonio]

Nice.

[Injun, as in from India]

So my question for Sawant (she hasn't gotten back to me about coming on ? and we have a very, very good relationship with her, she's been on a dozen times or so), would be when is it OK for a business to utilize contractors the exact way she's using them?

Are we allowed to extend the question to situations in which McDonald's franchises its business to independent business owners? Do employees of such franchises count as McDonald's employees?

[Mad Scientist]

Everything is context based for these people. They believe it a "good cause" and the employees consultants would do this for free, so it's OK to pay them less. In all other cases doing so would be evil, but since they're exceptional.....

[Tonio]

Intentions Matter(tm)

[Hamster of Doom]

Shorter Prog: It's okay, because it's me doing it.

[Injun, as in from India]

+1 Mother Jones Unpaid Intern

[waffles]

Season 6 of The Wire plot summary:

Baltimore street gangs angry over the death in custody of Freddie Gray have vowed lethal retaliation against cops.

[PBR Streetgang]

Ssssshhhhheeeeeettttttt!!!

[Brett L]

Prez and Herc got sent out on their own again?

[Crusty Juggler]

As I said last night, the "western district way" was bound to result in some negative publicity.

[Brett L]

Its sad that the most fantastic things about The Wire were:
1) Barksdale's territoriality when they were making fat stacks of cash
and
2) Lt. Daniels not being dirty after getting his LTs bar.

[MJGreen]

Nobody hurt the Bunk.

[Andrew S.]

Last night I was out to dinner with my dad and his wife. My dad asked me what I thought about Hillary Clinton. I started laughing. My dad's wife got pissed at me for that. Of course, they both think this is a bunch of Republican conspiracy and that she didn't do anything wrong.

They also got pissed at me for saying I'd support Rand Paul.

I like to joke that I'm a 38 year old man who's an aspie, has been in a mental hospital (nearly 20 years ago after a suicide attempt) and likes My Little Pony, and I'm the most normal, sane person in my family.

[Brett L]

Eh. My dad thinks Rubio is tits, but I'm working around the edges. He surrendered on pot recently. And he's a total law and order Republican. There is hope. Keep working the small issues.

[Andrew S.]

My dad is a complete, dyed-in-the-wool, baby boomer Democrat. I've told the story here before about how he thought that Paul Krugman should have been Treasury Secretary in Obama's second term.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I wouldn't mind that at all. If you're gonna retard, go full retard.

[Aloysious]

Texas Hippie Coalition - Pissed Off and Mad About It

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjCtHgNEcV0

I'm sure this is appropriate for something or other.

[John]

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/205824/

Iowahawk continues to be a national treasure.

[Andrew S.]

Iowahawk and Charles CW Cooke are my two most essential non-libertarian political twitter follows.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

Does Iowahawk not count as a libertarian? He might be a conservatarian like Cooke.

[Andrew S.]

I consider Iowahawk to be conservatarian like Cooke. But that's just me.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Yeah all three are more conservative than libbytarian.

[GILMORE]

Ah HA! The mask is slipping!
/Bo

[MJGreen]

FWIW, one of the most influential people in my evolution from lib to conservatarian was trans: Dierdre McCloskey. Knew her when she was Don.

Iowahawk a few days ago. So you just might be right.

[Pan Zagloba]

I've been trying to explain to a friend that problem with oligarchies is that this is exactly where they end up. Or in the Principate, which he's cool with.

[grrizzly]

A follow-up on the Swedish cops in the NYC subway.

Hot Swedish Cops Honored At NYPD Promotion Ceremony

[Injun, as in from India]

You said 'Hot'.

I was expecting females!

[Warty]

I've been digging this. Enjoy.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Our favorite feminist dutifully charges up Sulkowicz Hill to die defending it

It's an interesting choice to go after the school, instead of going after Sulkowicz directly with a libel suit. Part of that might be that this is the safer route. A libel suit, after all, would mean that Sulkowicz would introduce evidence of her honesty in a public court, which could backfire dramatically on Nungesser. This suit isn't about what happened that night, but about the aftermath and whether the school had a responsibility to shut Sulkowicz down.

...This lawsuit is taking the arguments of anti-rape activists and directly inverting them, painting alleged abusers as victims and alleged victims as abusers.

For feminists, this tactic should feel familiar. There's a certain subset of anti-feminists whose main objection is to feminists' tendency to fight harassment and violence against women. For this group, inverting feminist arguments and arguing that men are the real victims is their primary strategy. Even the name they usually adopt?"men's rights activists"?is meant to imply victimhood. "I know you are, but what am I?" is elevated to philosophy. They deny the existence of misogyny, instead claiming that "misandry" is the real issue.

[Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns]

Someone on Twitter pointed out that she claims the accused's name wasn't known until the Kathy Young article, which is a verifiable lie.

[Hey Nikki!]

It's like they really didn't listen when people told them, "If you build a machine, someone else might take control of it and use it against you." They think it's, like, quirky and annoying, not crushingly inevitable.

[Episiarch]

Of course they didn't listen. First of all, they don't ever listen to anyone. Secondly, they are incredibly stupid, know nothing about or learn anything from history, and are totally incapable of this kind of predictive thinking. Thirdly, none of that matters because for them, "too good to be true" means "perfect". They just don't realize that it doesn't work that way for the rest of us.

[Brett L]

"Only right-thinking people will use my machine for good!"

No, that's not how machines work at all. Machines take a certain input and deliver a certain output with no regard for the rightness or wrongness of the work they do in between. Why is that difficult?

[Andrew S.]

I thought our favorite feminist was now ESB, or maybe Jessica Valenti.

[Episiarch]

ESB is my favorite. I don't know about the rest of you.

[Crusty Juggler]

I am on Team Merlan. I will ride that train to the top of crazy mountain.

[Brett L]

Its the fall off of crazy mountain that hurts.

[Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns]

You stay away from her, Epi, I saw her first and pulled her pigtails on the playground before you even knew she existed and based on the bro-code that implies I have dibs.

[Episiarch]

Here's your bro code, brah.

(punches Irish in the taint)

[Los Doyers]

You stay away from her Epissiarch. A good Catholic girl like herself in only into gratuitous amounts of anal, not water sports.

[Episiarch]

That works for me!

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Is that how it's gonna go from now on?

Misspell Episiarch?

It's the Epissiarchy.

[Los Doyers]

Don't get pissy, canuckistani.

[Brett L]

Haha. So not dragging the woman through a civil defense is anti-feminist? Jesus, these people are bold.

[John]

A libel suit, after all, would mean that Sulkowicz would introduce evidence of her honesty in a public court, which could backfire dramatically on Nungesser.

Truth is a defense to libel. If Sulkowicz is known to be truthful and telling the truth Columbia will call her as a witness and have her say as much and introduce evidence showing her character for truthfulness. So he didn't fail to sue Sulkowitc for that reason. These people are so stupid and lie so much, I don't think you can even call it lying anymore. How can you lie when you have no concept of what truth even is?

This lawsuit is taking the arguments of anti-rape activists and directly inverting them, painting alleged abusers as victims and alleged victims as abusers.

By this logic, when some innocent person sent to death row by a crooked prosecutor is finally cleared of the charges and sues the prosecutor, that person is just taking the arguments of anti crime advocates and inverting them and turning the alleged murderers into victims. This people make my stomach turn.

[tarran]

If Sulkowicz is known to be truthful and telling the truth Columbia will call her as a witness and have her say as much and introduce evidence showing her character for truthfulness.

Yes, they could, BUT......

They already formed an opinion as to her credibility - by ruling her claims as unsubstantiated.

So it's a much higher bar to clear if she isn't a party.

Moreover, if she's a party and gets to plead her case to a jury there is a non 0 chance the jury could fall for her bullshit.

If she's *not* a party, she doesn't get to make a case. Columbia can call her as a witness, but they will craft their own arguments.

I agree with you, though, that the guys claiming his decision to leave her otu of the lawsuit shows a degree of guilt are full of shit. As I know from my personal experience, suing someone who is utterly delusional and who lies fearlessly and recklessly in ways that are ultimately self-destructive is the legal equivalent of a frontal assault on a machine gun nest.

[PBR Streetgang]

Can we agree to call mattress girl's and Jackie's 'story' "Slut Shamming"?

[PapayaSF]

Nice.

[Warty]

Imagine how good the freakout is going to be when Columbia settles. It'll be better than you can imagine. We live in charmed times, boyos.

[John]

Or loses and gets a big judgment. One or the other is going to happen. Sadly, they will just ignore it. We won't get to watch them freak out.

[Warty]

Oh I hope he takes it that far too. It'll be even more delicious. But a settlement seems much more likely, doesn't it?

[Episiarch]

Dude, the LOOK OVER HERE NOTHING TO SEE will be amazing.

[Tonio]

Not as good as if they lost. But, yeah, they'll probably offer to settle and include a gag order so we'll never hear from Nungesser again. Sulkowicz who is not a party to the suit will blather on about this for the rest of her life.

[tarran]

Why would he accept such a stupid settlement?

I wouldn't unless I was facing utter ruin.

[Tonio]

What about he's actually damaged and just wants to get on with his life. C'mon, dude, if he continues to speak out about this the feminists will stalk, harass, and possibly assault him for the rest of his life.

[Injun, as in from India]

I think this affair is going to culminate with a lawsuit against Emma herself, and she will wish she had umbrella insurance.

[Brett L]

Nah. Columbia will take the fall because sueing her is punching down too far. No jury will ever take the school's side. The young woman is obviously unbalanced. Only a fool would take action based on her testimony alone.

[Tonio]

Rule #2 of the Law: Never sue poor people.

[Episiarch]

This concept explained perfectly.

[PBR Streetgang]

Sue her anyway, get a judgment, docket it and wait to see if she earns/inherits money in the future. If she does start garnishing. Her parents are loaded and I bet she will parlay her "art" into $$ at some point.

[Tonio]

I'm sure there are ways to dodge around that and for her to still have a good life at the expense of her friends and supporters. As well it should be, not because I like what she says, but I defend her right to say it.

[Brett L]

I must be misunderstanding you. You defend her right to accuse a specific person of rape after having what appears by all accounts except her months post facto accusations to be consensual sex? That's a bridge too far for me.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...painting alleged abusers as victims and alleged victims as abusers.

What's with this "alleged" bull? Rape apologist much?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

"Sulkowicz would introduce evidence of her honesty in a public court"

That doesn't sound very scientific.

[PapayaSF]

Especially because there are messages showing she asked for butt sex, and later statements that she said she never brought it up. Plus a series of post-"rape" messages that don't sound at all like a rape victim writing to a rapist.

[Winston]

Baltimore street gangs angry over the death in custody of Freddie Gray

So I guess they're mad that the Baltimore PD killed him first?

[Winston]

So how come anti-cop violence didn't do a lot of good in Detroit or Northern Ireland?

[Xeones]

Winston, you sonofabitch! You smell like cheese and you owe me $12!

[Warty]

For no reason at all, here's Dance Floor Dale. 100%, totally safe for work. You should watch it with your grandma.

[Xeones]

I am not clicking on that.

[Aloysious]

I watched that whole thing and I don't know why.

[GILMORE]

i'm feeling it

[gaoxiaen]

Wow. Just wow.

[Ted S.]

China and India are both courting Nepalese favor with earthquake relief efforts. Hey, whatever gets the blankets and rice distributed.

Wait until Taiwan, the other of the two Chinas, gets in on the action.

[Carl ?s the level]

They're too busy bribing banana republics into continuing to recognize them.

[Medical Physics Guy]

Any feisty Reasonoids planning to take the new online course Making Sense of Climate Change Denial? If you do, I'll make the popcorn. God what a condescending intro page.

[Warty]

What you'll learn
How to recognise the social and psychological drivers of climate science denial
How to better understand climate change: the evidence that it is happening, that humans are causing it and the potential impacts
How to identify the techniques and fallacies that climate myths employ to distort climate science
How to effectively debunk climate misinformation

I know I say this a lot...but bitches need more Areopagitica.

[Idle Hands]

the picture of guy Mark Richardson is awesome.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I want to be in Gavin Cawley's class.

Just so I can bust his balls.

[Carl ?s the level]

Yeah, I'd been meaning to post that. Even as an, erm, "non-denier" I found it funny.

[Derpetologist]

Tales from the Derp: Derrick Jensen

I've never written this before in public, but my first thought on September 11 when I heard someone was attacking the World Trade Center is, 'Ah, so now it begins. Someone is finally fighting back. Given the terror that the United States routinely inflicts on people (including nonhumans, of course) the world over (and of course now a couple of years later the United States calls these programs of systematic terror 'Shock and Awe'), I'm surprised it didn't happen long ago. The poor have been very patient and long suffering, more patient and long suffering than anyone could ever expect.' That is what I thought.

Behold the derp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pnzD6qD4ho

[Winston]

Sheldon Richman?

[Pro Libertate]

The poor? We were attacked by spoiled rich kids and their friends who hang around hoping to benefit financially.

[Derpetologist]

I love it how he thinks the 9/11 attacks were caused by poor people angry about poverty or pollution.

There is a word for when someone incorrectly ascribes their own motivations to other people. It's on the tip of my tongue. Pro...projeh...something like that?

I want to bring down civilization. It's really clear that civilization is killing the planet. I'm interested in living in a world that has more wild salmon every year than the year before. A world that has more migratory songbirds every year than the year before. A world that has less dioxins and flame retardants in mothers' breast milk. A world not being destroyed. A world where krill populations aren't collapsing. A world where there are not dead zones in the oceans. A world not being systematically dismantled. I want to live in a world that is not being killed. I will do whatever it takes to get there.

-Derrick Jensen

[Pro Libertate]

What's the point worrying if you have that point of view? If you think humanity is on the path to disaster, heck, just wait for the comeuppance. In fact, if they want civilization to collapse, they should push for more of what they think will make it happen, like, I dunno, libertarianism.

[GILMORE]

lol, it actually makes more sense than the "Whine constantly"

and would probably result in greater interim self-satisfaction than wondering why their neo-malthusian "Population Bomb, 2050 = This Time Its Happening!"-book isn't causing a planet-wide abandonment of capitalism

[PapayaSF]

Immediately after 9/11, there was a letter to the editor (in the SF Chronicle IIRC) saying that it happened because Bush did not send a high-level delegation to the World Conference Against Racism in Durban.

Seriously.

[Free Society]

Immediately after 9/11, there was a letter to the editor (in the SF Chronicle IIRC) saying that it happened because Bush did not send a high-level delegation to the World Conference Against Racism in Durban.

Seriously.

All of the world's problems can be traced back to one thing; whites not prostrating themselves sufficiently to all the browns who, purely by coincidence, enjoy running water, modern medicine and internet connectivity on their personal computer.

[Free Society]

I too believe that not only have we not reached peak songbird, but there is no such thing as peak song bird. Clearly the Earth was always meant to support trillions of songbirds. But I have to draw the line at removing flame retardants from breast milk. Does this guy want to see human babies bursting into flames? Of course he does.

[Stormy Dragon]

As someone who likes to sleep in, I could do with less song birds in the tree outside my bedroom window.

[LynchPin1477]

I want to live in a world that is not being killed

Except for all those people that I want to die.

[gaoxiaen]

"I want to live in a world that is not being killed."

Tell that to the supermassive black hole in the center of our galaxy.

[lap83]

Couldn't make it past the smarmily mincing "ummm, I don't know if you know this"
25 seconds in, that might be a record for me watching one of your videos though.

[Winston]

Interesting article from Matt Welch were he condemned "Charlie Hebdo agonistes" only to include a link to Glenn Greenwald which ignored the fact that Greenwald too is a "Charlie Hebdo agoniste".

[Enough About Palin]

The fuck is an agoniste?

[Winston]

Ask Welch...

[VG Zaytsev]

The Cosmos are devolving their own language, so who the fuck knows other than it's got something to do with racism or blowback.

[Winston]

"We also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well"

Interesting where things are going. We have thug cops who are perfectly willing to kill unarmed people during confrontations with cops but when people start getting violent toward non-cops (especially as a result of a protest over police brutality) then the thug cops leave them alone. This will end well.

[John]

The head of something called Newsmax gives the best piece of DERP yet defending Hillary Clinton.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfro.....id/640856/
Rather than simply "cashing in," the young former president wanted to devote a substantial amount of his time and energy to making the world a better place, improving the lives of poor people and, at the same time, demonstrating in a real way that Americans cared.

Remember also the context of the time. America was globally criticized during its war on terror, especially after the invasion of Iraq. Few nations joined the "coalition of the willing." Our nation was losing its stature as leader of the free world.

It was Bill Clinton, using the platform of his foundation, who became the de facto goodwill ambassador of the United States.

Hillary had to take those bribes. Her and Bill were saving America!!

[PapayaSF]

Ruddy is a strange case: a major anti-Clinton figure in the '90s who now defends them. Hard to explain.

[GILMORE]

Here's something to ponder =

- Newsmax attracts the very reddest of TEAM RED
- Salon attracts the very bluest of TEAM BLUE

- Newsmax became profitable in 2003, and rakes in money
- Salon has never been profitable, and shits money down the toilet in ever larger amounts

to be fair, newsmax was always a broad-based news-media project, and not purely-partisan wankery like Salon (probably more comparable to a Huffpo, really)

i am myself more likely to be reading Salon than Newsmax. Because the lulz.

[Brett L]

They're fucked on this one. The book is too broadly sources and too damning. Sure, she'll have plenty of apologists but the money and influence people have a reason to jump ship.

[Pro Libertate]

There are definitely signs of rats jumping off the ship. It's a pleasure to behold, though I hope it goes much farther than just finishing off her ambitions.

What's terrible is that even if everything alleged is proven 100% true, with all of the crime-committing that would mean, what are the odds that either her or Bill would serve time or even be prosecuted?

[Brett L]

Eh. I'm okay with them both being tainted goods and never being allowed any cachet in adult society ever again. So what if this is exactly what Enron did -- deliberately make false statements on official tax documents.

[Pro Libertate]

Criminals in politics rarely being held accountable and pretty much never being held fully accountable is a big part of our problem.

[Brett L]

Maybe. The difference between persecution or prosecution might get blurry. Caudillos prose ute the former regime as a matter of course. Letting people just walk away might be the lesser evil. But the caveat is that they have to stay away, which Hillary didn't.

[Pan Zagloba]

"These people normally support terrorists! By taking their money, Bill and Hilary were starving terrorists of much needed funds!"

[Derpetologist]

Last year about this time, I encountered something so idiotic that I pondered retiring from derpetology, as I believed I had finally discovered peak derp.

Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAG2NQ0X7qs

[Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns]

Not even the most idiotic thing you've ever posted. That honor goes to the ATF agent who claimed you could transform a paintball gun into a semi-automatic rifle.

[Derpetologist]

Oh, memories.... actually airsoft guns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2sWiZ8BizI

Yes, that was dumb, but for some reason the white privilege conference hit me harder. The cartoon by the teacher's union was also epic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOegA8MgC2o

[LynchPin1477]

How do you even begin to criticize something so wrong?

[CatoTheElder]

One can criticize something that is merely wrong. It is impossible to effectively criticize something that is incredibly stupid except to point out that it is ridiculously stupid.

[gaoxiaen]

All you need to do to convert it is to replace everything in the gun. It's just that easy.

[Derpetologist]

Ralph Nader: Origins

When he was a kid, his mom would make a cake for his birthday. She would frost it and take a picture of him with the cake. Then she would scrape off the frosting and they would eat the cake. The frosting was just for the picture.

It explains a lot doesn't it? I want to give him a nice cake and say "it's OK Ralph, you can eat the frosting now."

They really do all want cake.

[PapayaSF]

So that's where he gets his hatred of false advertising.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I thought it was going to explain how she'd shove his face in the cake where he'd almost suffocate on the frosting.

That would be a better story.

And then he could, like, demand a trigger warning each time someone brings up frosting - or icing.

[GILMORE]

Venezuela, Socialist Paradise

A Venezuelan woman hits Maduro in the head with a mango

the Dear Leader then awards the homeless mango-thrower with A NEW HOME!

"I've approved an apartment for you, Marleny, as part of the 'Grand Venezuelan Housing Mission'," he added, vowing to eat the mango"

[GILMORE]

45 Killed in Freak Weather Event in Pakistan:
Pakistani Taliban Take Credit

[GILMORE]

Greeks Decide "Be a Gigantic Asshole"-Strategy Not Working: Sideline Celebrity Finance Minister

[Rufus J. Firefly]

More The Knack than The Beatles, huh.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Bah. The EU could use the occasional middle finger.

[GILMORE]

True

But from the greeks, its like a beggar spitting in your face then wondering why you won't give them another $5

[GILMORE]

Photo Caption Contest

Kim Kardashian Bares Buttocks During Goodwill Tour of Africa

[Rufus J. Firefly]

'I cannot see her fat ass with Kanye's head in the way!'

[John]

That is why I am her minion rather than she being mine.

[Pro Libertate]

I'm cogitoing and summing.

[Xeones]

I'm not.

[Los Doyers]

Get in line.

[Bobarian (sexbot hand model)]

Something to do with the patriarchy, as well.

[Xeones]

Gross, dude.

[Injun, as in from India]

Thanks man, on behalf of all cisgendered males.

[Pro Libertate]

Like your opinion matters, since you don't exist.

[Ted S.]

I like to hold my breathe, too.

[jesse.in.mb]

Why are you othering transmen who identify as hetero?

[jesse.in.mb]

As soon as I hit post I realized that needed a "/snark" tag...I apologize to anyone who was triggered by my SJW-mocking comments.

[Injun, as in from India]

Don't apologize Jesse. Anyone who doesn't get your joke needs to get their sarcasm detector repaired.