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The Real Problem With Rolling Stone‘s Campus Rape Fiasco

The hysteria over "rape culture" is still alive and kicking.

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It's great that those who value truth and reason finally won out over Rolling Stone, publisher of 2014's most egregious example of dime store fantasy journalism.

Through doing the things Rolling Stone flatly failed to—elevating fact-gathering over moral narratives; hunting down info; asking awkward questions—bloggers, journalists, and, now, the dean of the Columbia School of Journalism successfully exploded the myth of a gang rape at the University of Virginia (UVA) in 2012.

Truth, 1; Agenda-Driven Mythmaking, Nil. A clear win for fact over fallacy, objectivity over journalism more interested in telling a morality tale, however tall, than in communicating clear, proven facts. A victory for veracity. Right?

I'm not so sure. The Rolling Stone story might be dead, slain by an army of genuinely inquisitive observers. But the hysteria that made that fact-lite mess of a feature possible in the first place survives. It staggers on, bloodied but unbowed, Michael Myers-style.

Yes, Rolling Stone is reprimanded, but the unhinged panic about a "rape culture" on campus that made that mag so blind to the hollowness of Jackie's story is still getting away with it. Indeed, Rolling Stone's final withdrawal of its story this week, following Columbia's cool dismantling of it, has, perversely, given rise to a chorus of demands that we now focus on the true problem: the epidemic of rape on campus.

The hysteria is dead, long live the hysteria!

The most common criticism made of Rolling Stone in the past few days is that it has hampered the war against campus sexual assault. In publishing BS about a gang rape at UVA, it created a situation where female students, apparently under threat, might feel reluctant to speak out. In short: the problem with Rolling Stone's rape-culture mythmaking is that it made it harder to grapple with rape culture.

The Columbia report itself contains the seeds of this concern. It criticises Rolling Stone for spreading "the idea that many women invent rape allegations." In the section on "Reporting Rape on Campus," it doesn't address the central problem with such reporting—that it too often buys into totally inflated stats about assault—but instead offers advice on how to sensitively cover rape stories.

In her statement on Columbia's report, the author of Rolling Stone's rape tale, Sabrina Rubin Erdely, apologized to her readers and editors (but not to frats she so scandalously defamed), and she said sorry to the "victims of sexual assault who may feel fearful as a result of my article." Her main concern is ensuring that, even after her disastrous piece, "the voices of the victims" will still be heard. 

UVA President Teresa A. Sullivan took a similar line, slamming Rolling Stone for distracting attention from the real problem, the "serious issue": sexual violence on campus.

Even as she rapped Rolling Stone's knuckles for publishing a scare story about rape, Sullivan promised to introduce "substantive reforms" to "improve culture" on her campus as a means of "prevent[ing] violence" and "ensur[ing] the safety of our students so they can learn and achieve their personal potential in an environment of trust and security."

So apparently there is a culture issue at UVA, a violence issue, an attitudinal problem that needs top-down fixing.

What these responses share in common is a desire to draw attention back to the alleged real stuff: female students not being believed; a warped campus culture that needs intervention; the need to turn campuses from alleged sites of violence back into "environments of security."

They're still buying the core misconception of Ederly's article, the really rotten part: the idea of a culture of rape, a culture of evil. According to Columbia's report, Ederly wanted to find a "single, emblematic college rape case" that would show, in Ederly's own words, "what it's like to be on campus now… where not only is rape so prevalent but also that there's this pervasive culture of sexual harassment / rape culture." And much of the response to Columbia's report is basically saying: Her emblematic case was hooey, yes, but she's right about the pervasive-culture thing.

Only she isn't. And if we correct Rolling Stone without challenging the rape-culture myth, then we leave the colossal problems here untouched.

Media feminists have been even more explicit in their demand that we swiftly turn our eyes away from Rolling Stone's failings and back to the alleged tsunami of sexual assault on campus.

Jessica Valenti frets that the Jackie fiasco will damage efforts "to end sexual violence on campus"—campuses where the "scourge of rape" is rife. Over at the radical lesbian magazine, Curve, Victoria A. Brownworth says it's all well and good for Rolling Stone to have retracted its story, but "some things can't be retracted"—like the fact that "Rape culture is real. There's a pandemic of rape on college campuses like UVA."

Feminist Suzannah Weiss says "we shouldn't let Rolling Stone's mistakes stand in the way of taking campus sexual assaults seriously," since "campus rape culture is a very real problem." This only says more openly what Ederly and Sullivan nodded to in their post-Columbia statements: that for all the faults in the Rolling Stone piece, the thing Ederly hoped to illustrate—the existence of a "pervasive culture of sexual harassment"—is still around and requires substantive action.

But this culture doesn't exist. Are women on campus sometimes sexually assaulted? Yes, they are, as are women in all walks of life, tragically. But the idea of a culture of rape on campus is bunkum.

It's been shot down by libertarian and liberal feminists, most notably Emily Yoffe at Slate, who trashed with facts the oft-spouted idea that one-in-five college women are sexually assaulted before they graduate.

According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, between 1995 and 2011 only 0.6 percent of college women had experienced an attempted or actual sexual assault, which is less than the 0.8 percent of non-college women aged 18 to 24 who had the same experience over the same time. So American colleges are not hotbeds of assault and rape, and are actually safer for women than most other zones of life.

Even the treatment of the Rolling Stone drama as just a failure of journalism—Columbia offered an "anatomy of a journalistic failure"—feels insufficient. Yes, its writers and editors messed up royally (and still are, by refusing to make any significant changes to their staff or editorial processes.) But that terrible article arose out of a moral swamp that still festers even following the article's retraction. It spoke to and reflected and sought to capture one of the most hysterical panics of our time: the idea that largely middle-class women at some of the best universities in the United States are stalked by danger, hunted by rapists, threatened by a foul, free-floating culture of violation.

It's this madness that we must now challenge. And it will require more than a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalism dean to do that. It will require all of us picking apart victim feminism, advocacy research, the demonization of men (especially of the frat variety), the culture of misanthropy, and the modern urge to trash both due process and civil rights in the name of hunting down a new breed of Emmanuel Goldsteins: jocks, lads, college guys. All of these are the ingredients, not only of Erdely's sorry excuse for reporting, but also of the still extant, still profoundly damaging moral panic about rape.

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179 responses to “The Real Problem With Rolling Stone‘s Campus Rape Fiasco

  1. Facts, shmacts. Rape culture is real, even if it isn’t.

    Orwell would be….well, I imagine he’d say, “I told you so…”

    1. Actually he’d probably say “No comment, no comment?” as he went to barricade himself into his home. He was no fool, and wouldn’t want a visit from the Ministry of Truth?.I mean MSNBC.

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    3. On another site, there was a left-wing feminist troll type who kept insisting that thousands of gang rapes like the Rolling Stone story occur in college fraternity houses, and the fact that we were calling RS on their poor story meant that we wanted the rapes to continue. This wasn’t sarcasm either, it was purely in earnest.

      After I responded that every single person commenting on that site would want rapists tried and jailed if convicted, I added a snide comment about strawmen, which sent the troll back for more name calling towards me. Since I’m a grown up, I just responded in a manner similar to my first response, pointing out her rhetorical fallacy (ad hominem attacks) and told her to try again.

      You CANNOT convince a true leftoid of anything. If their professors tell them the sun rises in the west, you can take them outside at sunrise and show them the sun coming up in the east (in real life), and they’d claim it was a photoshop, or tell you that direction was actually west.

  2. Something something Hitler. . .

  3. I’m thinking the fix for UVA is to stop giving it tax money. Otherwise you would continue to subsidize rape culture (prog version) or a corrupt and inept administration (real world version).

    1. This insanity has saturated practically every university campus in the nation.

      1. it not just that. There also the fact that this insanity was insisted upon by the DOE’s “Dear Colleague” letter.

        The Obama administration is fighting for and very much wants these college witch hunts to continue.

        1. Well, Obama is a far left ideologue. This type tend to turn to shit everything they touch, and The One is no exception to the rule, as is clearly evident for all to see.

          There are 2 type of leftist. Well, there are more than 2, but for the purpose of making my point here, I’m sticking with these two.

          There are the cautious but cunning and ever patient leftists who move the goal post to the left an inch at a time. These are the people who are responsible for the tremendous success of the left over the past 100 years.

          Then there are the slash and burn lunatic fringe of the left. The SJWs and other assorted far left of the Democrat party represent this latter group.

          The big problem for the Democratic party is that this latter group have partially taken over the party and are now running amok. This is going to hurt the Democrats very badly. You can get away with this shit in a 3rd world country where almost everyone is poor and without much hope, but not in the USA. The blow back is coming and it’s going to be very devastating to the left.

          1. I hope you’re right.

    2. Honestly, I think you’re on to the key. Perhaps the most intelligent response is “Wow, rape culture is totally out of control, we need to slash all government monies to universities and colleges immediately.” Once we reply to every one of their invented calamities with a demand to cease funding to their pet projects, that will motivate them to turn on themselves and with any luck eat themselves.

      1. No need to do even that. The left are now trying to juggle so many different victim classes that it’s literally unavoidable that at some point some of them will turn on each other. They’ve reached a level of insanity at this point, they’re like a magnet to the unhinged and the perpetually aggrieved, that most people are going to start to shy away from them, or even run away as fast as possible.

        This is exactly the reason why the Democrats got trounced in 2014. And with the SJW crowd running amok and lighting fires, it’s going to get worse for the Democrats.

        1. It’s like the final act of That Hideous Strength. Ultimate power right up until the point the whole organization collapses from within. Only the difference here is we won’t even need the Curse of Babel to get it started.

        2. On Indybay there was an appetizer of this served up last year in an article about Vegans of Color. On that day I felt there may be hope for the US yet.

      2. It is my usual response to things I am forced to pay for yet do not use. So in the Prog view of things, I am forced to pay for college rape. Sounds like central Africa…

      3. Perhaps the most intelligent response is “Wow, rape culture is totally out of control, we need to slash all government monies to universities and colleges immediately.”

        I think you’d be shocked at how quickly the whole campus rape epidemic gets “solved”. `

      4. ‘Perhaps the most intelligent response is “Wow, rape culture is totally out of control, we need to slash all government monies to universities and colleges immediately.”‘

        Or maybe we can just tell them that since rape culture is so out of control, we should ban women from college altogether (For their safety, of course).

        1. I always wonder how long it will take them to figure this out. Pretty interesting how progressive ideas typically end with racist or sexist outcomes, isn’t it?

  4. Is every single feminist pushing this “fake but accurate” horse shit? Do I need to explain reputation to them ala Play It to the Bone?

    1. They would just explain the real problem with rape, that men control the judiciary, police included, and rape is not a serious crime in their eyes, so RAPE CULTURE!

      The real problem is that rape is more or less just assault, a he-said she-said problem, without evidence if the rapist uses a rubber, and sometimes without evidence precisely because the victim cleans up before reporting it. How many victims of a fist fight go to the police or hospital immediately after the fight? What would have happened to George Zimmerman if he had cleaned up before the police showed up?

      And because rape is mostly men attacking women, it is easy to advance the narrative that men (the police, prosecutors, and judiciary) ignore it, when they pretty much ignore all evidence-less assaults.

      1. I also think the accusation of rape is a pretty effective cudgel within a relationship. If you’re a nineteen year old kid, is there any way to prove your innocence against such a charge? Especially since in the eyes of some states, merely imbibing proves you’re a racist if you’re male and incompetent if you’re female?

        1. Errr…not “racist”, I meant “rapist”. My Freudian slip is showing.

          1. Rapey is the new buzzword. If you’re male, then you’re rapey. All males are rapey, thus guilty by default.

            1. I went to a feminist event recently (against my will), and the organizer worked pretty hard to push the idea that rape is one a ‘continuum’ of normal male behavior on the ‘discussion.’ I pointed out the absurdity of this since most rapists were abused as children and/or are certifiable sociopaths, and that normal men wouldn’t rape in any circumstance, unless perhaps if you physically and psychologically abused them to the point of insanity. Really dropped some shit on her little parade.

              But it seems to be that the goal is to convince every man that he is basically Bruce Banner. Only instead of turning into the hulk, some circumstances could conspire, at any moment, to make him a rapist. There is a rapist inside every man, and we need to fight hard (and thoroughly reeducate ourselves.and give women lots of free stuff) in order to keep that rapist-within-us at bay.

              And all the self-loathing, depression, alcoholism, and perhaps occasional suicide that result from men being brought up in such a culture and some actually accepting this horrible narrative is I guess just the collateral damage.

              1. “I went to a feminist event recently (against my will),”

                YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT

                IF YOU WERE “FIXED” YOU WOULD HAVE WANTED TO BE THERE

              2. “I went to a feminist event recently (against my will),” You must really love whoever dragged you there. My liberal family members don’t invite my husband and I to these kind of things because they’re terrified we’d go and have a lovely time. I’ve always wondered, when you pop their statist bubble online, they behave as though their heads have literally exploded, I’d love to see what that looks like in person.

  5. it is heartening to see backlash against things people used to stay quiet about: the rape culture claim, forced celebration of things you don’t like, the UM decision to American Sniper after all, the lessening impact of yelling ‘racism!”.

    Feminist Suzannah Weiss says “we shouldn’t let Rolling Stone’s mistakes stand in the way of taking campus sexual assaults seriously,” since “campus rape culture is a very real problem.”
    Except that nothing substantiates either claim. Sexual assault has always been taken seriously; what problem exists is with academia trying to handle a law enforcement matter, often with kangaroo courts that serve no one.

    The rape culture myth will continue to be mocked for the sophistry that it is. No parent would send a daughter to college if the one-in-five claim was remotely close to true and what young woman would willingly enter that situation?

    Even worse, this has deeper implications going forward. Take a cohort increasingly populated by beta males, add females steeped in the notion that men are predators or evil or otherwise bad, and tell me how well this works in a society where most men and women alike aspire to one day settle down and marry a member of the opposite sex. This is its own version of the junior anti-sex league where personal relationships will be discouraged and sex will be purely for population maintenance and/or replenishing.

    1. It is funny that, in the 21st century, “feminists” are the source of prudishness and Puritanism.

      And damn do the progressives love them some disease metaphors. Gun violence is an epidemic! A pandemic of campus rape! Don’t stand too close; you’ll catch it!

      1. They’re more like Nazis than Puritans. Although, some of their behavior is Puritan like, especially all of their witch hunts.

        1. “Forget it, he’s rolling.”

        2. They’re more like Nazis than Puritans.

          Really, there isn’t much difference.

    2. No parent would send a daughter to college if the one-in-five claim was remotely close to true and what young woman would willingly enter that situation?

      This is absolute nonsense. Two things.

      These are people who are going deeply into hock for four year degrees, which will actually take more like six years and even then 40% will fail to graduate. The lucky winners of a Fine Arts degree will work as baristas to pay their $80k in debt. These are not people with a demonstrative ability to make a risk-reward calculation. These aren’t people who think, they do what is expected of them because it is What People Do.

      Nothing bad ever happens to nice people. Bad things happen to other people. And fuck other people. Haven’t you seen the looks on their faces when completely normal life-fucking-you occurs? They’re stunned. The universe itself betrayed them. Doesn’t matter if it’s an unexpected roof repair or your daughter was raped, you were Doing Everything Right, and bad things are just not supposed to happen to you, personally. They’re pretty sure it’s in the contract.

      Said with all the love in the world. But really, I’m just not seeing it.

      1. *standing ovation*

      2. did you miss the point or choose to ignore it? If you knew there was a one in five chance of violence visiting you or your daughter by going to a particular place, would that risk level be tolerable? It’s not that complicated a question and it has absolutely nothing to do with dollars and debt.

        I didn’t say nothing bad happens to nice people; I said no one assumes that level of risk, which is why the number are bullshit.

        1. I suppose it’s out of the question that I understood you just fine and your point is still inane. You presume these people are thinking, and making risk-reward calculations based on known factors. I argue they’re fucking tards who do what’s expected regardless of whether it’s likely to materially benefit them.

          And frankly, I think the evidence is in my favor. Would you really like to have this discussion? The one where you try to convince me and everyone else that the average boobus Americanus is an intelligent, rational person with critical thinking skills?

          Sisyphean task, bro, but I’m game for a laugh.

          1. Enough of them are thinking enough to call bullshit on the one in five claim. If they believed it, behavior would change much like vacation plans changed some years back when the Mexican cartels were in full rampage and people thought Acapulco was a death trap.

            Your argument seems largely based on the value-of-college point, something I am not addressing at all. And I’m not the only one on this thread who thinks 20% odds of being raped are beyond my comfort level. The rape culture myth is not holding water because it’s a myth.

            1. This seems about right. Even if any individual fit Hamster of Doom’s suggested profile, the culture would simply not look at college as a place to go.

            2. Enough of them are thinking enough to call bullshit on the one in five claim.

              And yet, there’s a two in five chance that their precious little sprog won’t graduate at all, not even with two extra years in which to do so. Funny, you think that’s being taken into account by all these rational Americans who think things through?

              Your argument seems largely based on the value-of-college point, something I am not addressing at all.

              My argument is that your average American is a moron with little evidence of having been violated by real cognitive activity. I was spoiled for choice when it came to selecting a point with which to back it up. We could go with another point just as easily.

              There are thousands and thousands of bright little sweetums out there, right this second, going into debt for degrees in women’s studies, black culture, French art appreciation, and marine biology. Marine biology.

              Culinary degrees. BOOM, I win, people are idiots. (Hyperbolic, don’t freak.)

              I think you are vastly overestimating the abilities of the average American. There’s nothing wrong with your original argument, so long as one presumes rational actors. I merely disagree that such a presumption can be supported by evidence. Obama and Junior were elected twice, after all.

              1. I know a bunch of people earning a living and several launching companies in Marine Biology. Just saying …

                1. A bunch of people, huh. Woo, lordie. Bunch of people. So, what is that, like, ten?

                  Guess all that about how marine biology was and remains a niche market unable to employ the yearly crop of hopefuls is completely apocryphal. Because *you* know a bunch of people.

                  Get back to me when you’ve learned the plural of ‘anecdote’ is not ‘data’.

              2. Tangent: I met a guy in the airport the other day who was telling me about how he was going to school to learn to wait tables. My inner monologue, “Back away from the crazy person slowly…”

    3. “Sexual assault has always been taken seriously”

      This is one of the stupidest and pigheaded comments Ive ever read at Reason. The “rape culture” claim is overblown, and universities.are fairly safe environments for young women. Neither of those are much help to those who are much more likely to be victimized: children and adolescents who have been sexually assaulted by a family member or family friend. It is only in VERY recent history that the default reaction to any such claims were disbelief and victim blaming. Law enforcement closure rates remain terrible in rape cases with many large municipal forces hiding enormous backlogs of rapekits that have yet to be forensicly tested. Despite improvements in the rule of law, which have been mediocre at best and have also resulted in huge numbers of false convictions, the same social stigmas still exist keeping huge numbers of sexual assaults secret: such secrets destroy families and some would rather live a discomforting lie than face the fallout.

  6. The SJWs are the unhinged lunatic fringe of the left. If the left do not reign in these people, they are going to suffer tremendous damage from it. So I hope they just let them run loose.

    Go to Steam forums and say you are an SJW and don’t like a certain game becuase blah blah blah. See what happens. A lot of people hate SJWs with a burning passion.

    You cannot just run amok in society attacking everyone in insane ways and not have serious blow back.

    1. the left won’t rein them in because the left needs them, it feeds off of them. Without a ready congregation of the aggrieved and offended, the church of progressivism would die out. What is necessary and what is happening, is for people on the other side to no longer sit by idly. Backlash against these folks and their toxic way of thinking is necessary and may be the only way of combating them.

      1. the left won’t rein them in because the left needs them, it feeds off of them.

        I think that was true up to a point. I think we’ve reached the point where the SJW brigades have become a political liability. The problem is that they’re sort of the progressives’ Franstein’s monster. At this point, no one on the left really can turn against them or they risk becoming a target of the very mob they drummed up.

    2. I find myself a bit depressed because of the lack of blowback. If you go to any of the comment sections on the Rolling Stone article, you’ll find the same army of nitwits suggesting that the story was totally true, because men are evil!! Uggh…

      1. I’ve recently seen even the regular commentariat on Salon in-fighting because of the level of crazy that some of the SJWs have reached. I mean they’re literally saying that every man is a rape monster just waiting for the next victim.

        Just because I like to drink, doesn’t mean that I want to hang around with a bunch of chronic alcoholics.

        1. One would think the logical conclusion to their beliefs is that women shouldn’t go to college: it’s just too dangerous. I sure as hell wouldn’t set foot on a campus if I thought there was a twenty percent chance I’d be raped.

          1. Add to that, that young men are also going to start viewing college campuses as a dangerous place for them. And that’s a lot closer to the truth. How many people are going to start thinking twice about sending their own son off to some place that is so hostile to that young man, where they can literally have their life ruined at any time one of these unhinged activist want to accuse the guy of rape over the least of slights or maybe even just an outright invention?

            1. I don’t recall all the details (though it was talked about here), but someone sent a NYC public defender outfit mostly staffed with feminists the new sexual relations policy (or what-have-you) for Columbia, and the response was “well, that’s one place we’re not sending our sons.”

              1. Columbia is the rule rather than the exception.

                In any event, to them, this is a good thing. Fewer men in college means fewer educated men, men earn less money (help fight the non-existent wage gap) and more importantly, fewer men (and especially fewer non-feminist men, the type more likely to choose not to go to college for reasons like this) who are ‘qualified’ for positions in government and media. Fewer men in college? Mission accomplished.

                No doubt they’ll still wonder why the US is falling behind in science and outsourcing more and more white collar jobs to east Asia and India.

            2. I am more afraid of sending my sons to college than I am of sending my daughter.

          2. Actually, I think SJW’s logical conclusion is that no Males should be allowed on campus, there is just too great a chance of rape.

            1. I won’t be surprised if some colleges that already have a low male population go there in the next 20 years.

              1. E-learning ftw…

    3. I think there is something going on that is kind of like a bunch of people with a serious narcissistic personality disorder whose narcissism revolves around feeling they are morally superior to everyone else. And one day they discover the “social justice” movement, and it’s like they hit the jackpot of moral supremacy signifiers. They can get as crazy as they want screaming racism and sexism in order to declare their own moral superiority, and nobody will say anything about it.
      Because the social justice movement has developed these rules where you can’t ever contradict anyone that cries racism. So these narcissists just tend to infect and take over the movement, until it’s not even really about social justice at all. It’s about these narcissists feeling superior to everyone by putting their anti-racist anti-sexist cred on display.

      1. Meh, you take religion away and people find an alternate route to “prove” their superiority. It’s the same old religion, different god.

  7. Trigger warning:

    Revolt of Gamers

    Hover : Revolt of Gamers is a singleplayer & multiplayer arcade free run / parkour game that takes place in a futuristic alien city. The city is under pressure because of the Great Manager who decided to ban video games and condamn all people having fun.

    1. You know, I’d think there should be a market for a game called trigger warning.

        1. I can’t click on the link before I get the bleach for my eyeballs, but I am certain I want to co-opt the word “condamn”.

    2. So. . .Australia?

      1. If there’s ever a new Crocodile Dundee film, he’ll need to check his privilege so often that it will turn a one hour and 45 minute movie into a 4 hour movie.

    3. Hover : Revolt of Gamers is a singleplayer & multiplayer arcade free run / parkour game that takes place in a futuristic alien city. The city is under pressure because of the Great Manager who decided to ban video games and condamn all people having fun

      I liked it better when it was called Jet Set Radio, condamn it!.

  8. No jail time for teacher who confessed to have threesome with 16 year old student

    A sleazy 32-year-old Louisiana English teacher admitted to bedding her 16-year-old student but got off with a deferred sentence and will not be required to register as a sex offender.

    Shelley Dufresne, 32, was so excited about the light sentence that the married mom of three posted a smiling selfie, one armed raised victoriously, to Instagram immediately after court with the caption: “My mood today” followed by three smiley faces.

    [snip]

    Dufresne is not out of the woods just yet. Though she admitted to sleeping with the teen last August and September at a home in Montz, she still could face charges from a group sex tryst she’s accused of participating in with another 24-year-old teacher last Sept. 12.

    Authorities in Jefferson Parish say Dufresne and Rachel Respess seduced the same boy, now 17, after a football game.

    Kenner cops say the menage a trois lasted from 9 p.m. to 6 a.m.

    Authorities say Dufresne “enticed and transported” the boy to Respess’s Montz apartment where Respess had sex with the teen while Dufresne “began intimately kissing (Respess) in an attempt to arouse all parties involved, all who were complete(ly) disrobed.”

    The teachers were caught when the boy bragged about the sexual encounter.

    Weird, I don’t see a victim in this case.

    1. There has to be a victim. That’s what laws are all about, duh! I think they’ve got it backwards though. The teacher, by virtue of vagina is the obvious victim. And the 16 year old male? Why he’s male, so obviously rapey. Male = rapey.

    2. WOULD.

    3. Substitute the genders and I’ll be we “find” one then.

    4. The question that always remains unanswered is whether the women somehow thought the guy wasn’t going to brag about it?
      I mean, were they not at one time high-school adolescents who heard the guys bragging about how many times they’d porked this gal or that?
      Did they really think it was going to remain a secret?

      1. Did they really think it was going to remain a secret?

        I think you’re expecting a level of judgement from all parties involved that is an a priori impossibility in this scenario.

    5. What level of wizardry is required for a 16 year old to get to participate in a threesome with 2 young teachers?

      1. I labored my entire adult life to get a threesome and it took me until my mid-thirties. What the actual fuck.

    6. As always, rapists getting away with rape in this rape culture. Those women are VICTIMS!

    7. Everyone is a hero in this story.

      1. Yes, but I wonder if she will triumphantly tweet when her underage children are consensually banged by adults.

        1. This is empowerment; that will be rape culture in action.

    8. Where were the hot student fucking teachers when I was in school.

  9. “Yes, Rolling Stone is reprimanded, but the unhinged panic about a “rape culture” on campus that made that mag so blind to the hollowness of Jackie’s story is still getting away with it.”

    This is probably the way it should be.

    Not every armed robbery is the reason why we need to ban handguns, and no single instance of someone using a handgun appropriately to defend themselves will ever make the gun-grabbers give up.

    No, a single incidence of rape is not the reason why we need to banish the Bill of Rights from campus, and finding a “victim” who lied through her teeth isn’t about to convince feminists to stop being feminists.

    If everybody still thinks whatever they thought before, then is the way it should be. Why should one incidence of anything convince anybody of anything?

    Things are better than they were. Before the interwebs, publications would write shitty articles like the one in Rolling Stone, and we had to hope that another journalist somewhere would double check it. If no one bothered, the bullshit would stick in the public’s consciousness as “fact”.

    Nowadays?

    If Romney drove around with his dog Seamus strapped to the top of his car for 12 hours, and in response someone else proved that Barack Obama ate a dog while he was in Indonesia–and no American voted differently than they would have anyway?

    Then this is the way things should be.

    If that’s the UVA story, too, then things appear to be as they should be.

    1. P.S. If it’s any consolation, Rolling Stone will almost certainly have to pay through the nose for a settlement.

      1. Rolling Stone could end up being the next New Republic.

        1. You mean Rolling Stone might disappear?

          Nobody disappears because of free publicity.

          If New Republic had printed a bullshit story like Rolling Stone, it might have saved the franchise.

          1. Maybe they put Tsarnaev aka Flash Bang on the cover again.

      2. If it’s any consolation, Rolling Stone will almost certainly have to pay through the nose for a settlement.

        I’m hoping they wind up changing their name to The Phi Kappa Psi Newsletter.

      3. I doubt that Rolling Stone will have to pay for libel. It is quite hard to prove that they actually didn’t do enough research (though easier here) but also that it did real harm (other than paying for a window and some graffitit cleanup).

  10. Sure there’s a rape culture; the artificial atmosphere of Feminista Indoctrination encourages young women to rape the reputations of young men on campus.

    1. There’s a rape culture in American prisons. SJWs don’t seem to give much of a shit about that, though.

      1. There’s also a rape culture in inner-city Black neighborhoods, but of course, acknowledging that is forbidden. The ghetto rape culture is, of course, the reason why there is a rape culture in prisons?Black prisoners simply continue the sexual culture they lived in on the outside, with less-masculine male prisoners playing the role of the women.

        1. “There’s also a rape culture in inner-city Black neighborhoods, “

          Cite.

          I’ve looked at data on this stuff repeatedly, and there’s hardly any super-significant jump in specific racial inner-city areas compared to ‘broader citywide stats’….

          …in fact, the most notable jump is that “Small cities” (50,000+) have much higher crime (and rape) overall compared to “large cities” (250,000+); i.e. – its not “inner city” black neighborhoods at all. Harlem is shitloads safer than Trenton.

          If data shows anything distinct about ‘poor black inner-city areas’, its slightly higher frequency of murder, not rape. and again, its also much worse in small cities, regardless of race distribution, than ethnic “inner city” areas.

          yes, there are higher rape rates in poor black areas, but the difference is pretty small compared to other issues….. e.g. the difference between white/black urban rape rates is fairly small, and so is the difference between urban/suburban, compared to the difference between “rich/poor”, or rural…

          Or that hispanics apparently don’t do it nearly as much as whites or blacks. Although they really don’t track that as well, obviously.

          The link below has plenty of data, as does this

          1. Yeah, and the rate of prison rapes is very low, because all that butt sex is “consensual”.

            1. oooh, burn

              Here’s a report on sexual assault criminal offenders specifically, pointing out

              ” Per capita rates of rape/sexual assault were found to be highest among residents age 16 to 19, low-income residents, and urban residents. There were no significant differences in the rate of rape/sexual assault among racial groups

              Your “inner city black rape culture” assertion has no facts to support it.

              People being raped in prison has been happening forever, and isn’t exactly slam-dunk evidence for anything.

              1. You’re missing the point. In an actual rape culture, the women, or those playing the role of the women, are deprived of their right to consent to sex. Looking at stats on reported rapes doesn’t tell the story, because in a culture in which consent does not really exist, individual “rapes” of the type likely to be reported are the tip of the iceberg of non-consensual sex. Most non-consensual sex will happen within relationships considered “normal” in that context. Prison sex is an example of that?most of the “bitches” being violated in prison are cooperating under a credible threat of violence or murder. What happens to them will not be included in the “rape” stats because prison officials regard them as being in “consensual” relationships. If every such individual sex act were counted as a rape, it would be seen that the level of rape in prison is massive, and the reported rapes are just a sliver of it. Another example would be cultures in which girls are forced into arranged marriages in which they have no right to refuse sex. By our standards, these women are being raped every time they have sex with their husbands, but in those cultures, they’re having “normal” sex that would never be counted as rape.

                1. blah blah blah still no proof of “inner city black rape culture”

                  1. There isn’t going to be any published “proof” because no academic would dare to propose studying it.

                    1. Just like those drug companies that are hiding the cure for cancer.

                      if you think you can just assert things in complete contradiction of ‘established fact’, and resort to argumentum ad ignorantiam when challenged (“they don’t want you to know the truth!!”), your M.O. is no different than the progressive SJWs. Try again.

                    2. I have not asserted anything in “contradiction of ‘established fact'”. I have said that the “established fact” of reported rape statistics do not reveal the full extent of non-consensual sex in an actual rape culture.

                      And yes, there are gaps in published research as a result of there being taboo subjects in academia.

                    3. blah blah blah

                      “a rape culture in inner-city Black neighborhoods”

                      No evidence, much fuzzy words, evasion, weasel assertions, handwaving about men in prison.

                2. The fuck did I just read?

                  Did he just claim the rape stats don’t line up with his beliefs about rape-y inner cities, because the bitch is too lacking in agency to realize it was rape?

                  Is not capable of forming consent?!

                  Fuck. You.

                  Cunt.

                  Someone tell me I need more coffee and I’m completely misunderstanding this. Restore my faith in humanity. This time I WANT TO BE WRONG.

                  1. You are completely misunderstanding. There’s a big difference between active coercion and lacking a sense of agency.

                3. “You’re missing the point. In an actual rape culture, the women, or those playing the role of the women, are deprived of their right to consent to sex. ”

                  So in other words, you’re Catherine MacKinnon but only for black people.

                  Get a grip buddy. The idea that any subpopulation of American women are collectively deprived of the ability to consent is radfem horseshit. You are basically arguing that a;; inner-city black sex is rape by virtue of being inner-city black sex. That is capital R Retarded.

              2. Per capita rates of rape/sexual assault were found to be highest among residents age 16 to 19, low-income residents, and urban residents. There were no significant differences in the rate of rape/sexual assault among racial groups

                You’re not reading that statement correctly. What that means is that inner cities and low income neighborhoods do have higher rates of rape, and because of demographics, African Americans do. You can see that later, where they say that “victims of rape were about evenly divided between whites and blacks”, meaning that rape is much more common in the black community than in the population. This reflects generally the statistics for murder and violent crime.

                The second part of the statement can only mean that once you correct for all those effects, they can’t show any statistically significant differences in rape by race (not even that such a difference doesn’t exist).

                1. “The second part of the statement can only mean that once you correct for all those effects, they can’t show any statistically significant differences in rape by race’

                  You mean, exactly what i’d said since the beginning?

                  e.g. “yes, there are higher rape rates in poor black areas, but the difference is pretty small compared to other issues….. e.g. the difference between white/black urban rape rates is fairly small, and so is the difference between urban/suburban, compared to the difference between “rich/poor”, or rural…”

                  i.e. that the race factor was not as significant as other demographic criteria

                2. Also =

                  if you look at the source report in more detail, you’ll see far more breakdowns about the subject which make it clearer that there’s no “coverup” of any especial black predilection to ‘rape’.

                  in fact, if you include the broader “Sexual Assault” category of crimes, it turns out that there’s a slight bias towards white folks being the more-likely perpetrator.

                  regardless = the point here was to debunk the idea that joe-blow was selling- that apparently “inner city blacks” have some extra-special magic “rape culture” which operates along lines entirely different than the rest of society.

                  1. Your reading comprehension is very poor.

                    1. yes, yes, we know….. you keep telling everyone that its their lack of “comprehension” and that they “miss the point” of your fact-bereft-assertions of rape-cultural-gargle-nonsense.

              3. Per capita rates of rape/sexual assault were found to be highest among residents age 16 to 19, low-income residents, and urban residents. There were no significant differences in the rate of rape/sexual assault among racial groups

                So rates are highest among low-income, urban residents and … there’s no difference among racial groups. Is this a joke?

                1. “”Is this a joke?””

                  That no one bothers to actually read data sources? yes.

                  1. But you have to be able to understand what you read for the sources to do you any good.

                  2. It’s a bullet point, dipshit. There is no “data source.” LOL at this joker who takes BJS interns from 1997 (also lol at the google fail) seriously.

                    Fucking pathetic that this needs to be spelled out: there’s no conceivable way for income or geography to mediate rape. You might as well say that X group doesn’t commit Y crime all that much after you control for musical preference.

          2. …in fact, the most notable jump is that “Small cities” (50,000+) have much higher crime (and rape) overall compared to “large cities” (250,000+); i.e. – its not “inner city” black neighborhoods at all. Harlem is shitloads safer than Trenton.

            That seems counterintuitive. Any idea why the crime rate is “much higher” in the smaller cities? Do you think there might be lower reporting rates in larger cities, perhaps because of distrust of police?

            1. “Any idea why the crime rate is “much higher” in the smaller cities? Do you think there might be lower reporting rates in larger cities, perhaps because of distrust of police”

              I’m not a criminologist, but i have looked at crime data often since the 1990s and small cities have long been the worst holdouts for violent/serious crime.

              meaning, crime rates have fallen drastically across all the largest urban areas, while rural and small-city crime rates have been flat, or in selected cases, rising

              I don’t think this has to do with reporting issues so much as changing concentrations of wealth and changing social dynamics in large cities. Small cities have lost jobs for 20 years while big ones have concentrated them and brought in lots of new spending on infrastructure, consumer spending, etc.

              The US ‘criminal drug culture’ also moved away from things like concentrated ‘inner city crack/heroin’ epidemics, and became a widespread issue which contributed to the degradation of smaller cities that had been generally unaffected in the 1990s.

              Another way of putting it – small town wannabe gangsters are far more of a problem these days than actual inner city gangs…which are virtually nonexistent compared to the 1980s problems.

              1. Makes more sense now, thanks.

            2. a piece here pointing out many smaller cities where crime is booming, and why there’s no single driver that can be blamed for it…

              9 cities where crime is soaring

              “While the prevalence of violent crime ? which includes murder, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault ? has declined in many of the nation’s metropolitan areas, in some regions it has increased….

              In some of the metro areas where violent crime rose the most, the economy has been especially strong. For example, in Bismarck, North Dakota, the economy grew as a result of the regional oil boom. Two other metro areas, Columbus, Indiana, and Sioux Falls, South Dakota, have also experienced strong growth in recent years. All three metro areas had unemployment rates far below the national rate of 7.4% in 2013. However, in other areas with rising violent crime rates several economic factors were quite poor. In four of the 10 metro areas, for example, more than 8% of workers were unemployed in 2013, well above the national rate….

              1. This makes sense to me intuitively. The worst places are not places like New York and Chicago, but places like Gary, Indiana, or Trenton, NJ.Not sure why exactly. Maybe bigger cities having higher property values or something.

  11. The SJWs are moral cowards. They tilt at their chosen windmills all day long precisely because they live in a culture that provides them the time, leisure, safety, and affability to do so. They are utterly silent on things like Rotherham. Rape is a criminal violation of the NAP, but they dont seem interested in that.

  12. I dropped this on the thread last night

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..01492.html

    The Equality Ninjas will never let the Rolling Stones loss stand. Expect more reprisals.

    1. So going forward we’ll have off campus non-affiliated party houses, I mean young adult organizations. Those will probably be more fun anyways.

      1. They just name it the “Citizens Againsr Climate Change Club” and they may get a free pass (until the next gang rape that is).

  13. Libertarian moment. Everything is better now than it ever was before. Do we really want to return to the dark ages when there was no acknowledgement of rape culture?

  14. OT: Property rights vs gun rights. Why can’t we all just get along.

    http://hotair.com/archives/201…..ight-move/

    1. I don’t see a property rights violation there. A car and its contents are certainly your private property, even if it is parked on your employer’s lot. Something that is locked in the trunk or glove box and stays there all day has no negative effects on my employer.

      1. I disagree. If an employer wants to say, “no guns on the premises”, it’s their property and their rules. Is there anything in your statement above that’s not equally applicable to a concealed weapon in a holster? “Something that is on that persons body and stays there all day has no negative effects on an employer”, right?

    1. That’s for HM to dissect and explain.

        1. I don’t get it. I posted a video of a Japanese schoolgirl dancing to a David Allen Coe song about sucking dick. Your video is nonsense with an Indian accent.

  15. Why does anyone have to make up rape stories with so many to go around?

    http://www.nbc4i.com/story/287…..3-children

    http://www.nbc4i.com/story/287…..1-year-old

    1. I ain’t clicking that.

      1. They’re news stories:) 81 year old woman beaten and raped by one guy. Another guy who knew he had hiv raped 3 minors.

        1. Humans really suck.

          1. It’s true Hamster.

          2. Only humans are allowed to say that, you bigoted species-ist hamster!

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    2. Rapes by privileged white males are the real danger. Rapes by poor minorities only perpetuate stereotypes.

      1. Also, the victims aren’t really members of the tribe either

        1. No, even when minorities rape white college students, that’s downplayed. Such stories get local coverage, but not activist outrage. “Rape culture” cannot be seen among minorities, cuz racism.

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  17. “It’s great that those who value truth and reason finally won out over Rolling Stone, publisher of 2014’s most egregious example of dime store fantasy journalism.”

    I disagree about a crucial dimension here = there was no final “truth”, but rather another lie to cover up the first, failed lie. Truth still lost.

    Even the post Columbia-report commentary here @ H&R, was largely characterizing the report as describing the journalist’s and Editor’s “Mistakes”…. not their willful choice to avoid fact-checking, or ignore evidence that their source was less than credible.

    IOW, no one had the balls to call them “liars”. Suderman came closest. There’s tons of evidence of Erdley trying to misrepresent the story and the level of detail of the reporting *before* anyone raised questions about its factual basis…. demonstrating an awareness of guilt, and consciousness that aspects of the story needed to be obscured in order for other parts to get “sold”

    (e.g. like the existence of “Drew” – which she repeatedly asserts as ‘having been verified’, but then judiciously avoids saying whether or not she actually verified it herself, preferring to imply that ‘it had been done’)

    No one has actually made the direct accusation that it was in fact, “Agenda-Driven Mythmaking” = A story fabricated from a patchwork of hysterical claims that allowed them to deny authorship.

    almost everyone in the media pretends it was an “honest mistake”. and that’s a lie.

    1. Sorta like the Brian Williams apology.

      “Hey losers. You misheard what I should have been saying. Now go pay $15/mn to watch my daughter get her ass eaten out.”

      1. in the future i’m just going with “that dumb cooze

  18. Maybe there was a rape culture 30 years ago in the 70s and 80s when most of the feminist writers involved went to college. But I doubt there has been one since at least the early 90s, when the first wave of politically correctness broke and everyone started having sensitivity training as part of freshman orientation.

    I certainly did not notice any sort of rape culture when I was an undergrad in the 90s. If anything I wished the guys were a bit more sexually aggressive – they all seemed so damn terrified of doing the wrong thing. These days, college freshmen are bombarded with messages against racism, sexism and every sort of “phobia” (homophobia, transphobia, Islamophobia), and pretty much no messages telling them that rape is ok. And I doubt that rape culture has made a comeback since 2000. It’s not like colleges have scaled back the sensitivity training.

    I suspect that the current leaders of the feminist movement are just out of touch with how much colleges have changed in the last 30 years, and they think this is still the same environment that prevailed when Polanski was banging 13 year olds and Bill Cosby was roofieing starlets in the 1970s.

    1. It’s standard with all reform movements: they start with legitimate complaints, make progress against them, and then need to find smaller and smaller things to rail against. They almost never say: “Well, good. We’ve made a lot of progress, and everybody knows about this stuff now, so we’re going to disband and get off the soapbox.”

      1. What’s more, they get worse and worse the longer they remain after their grievances have been redressed. Are the most militant feminists in the world Arab feminists? No, they’re Swedish feminists. No coincidence that feminists are at their most influential, insane, and man-hating in the country where women have it best.

        1. ‘Are the most militant feminists in the world Arab feminists?”

          Hey, don’t knock them. They can shit on things like the best of them.

    2. harassment culture maybe but not rape culture. I don’t think anyone has ever viewed that as acceptable. The sad part is how this plays out in the long run. Presumably, most young men and women expect to meet and marry a member of the opposite sex at some point.

      Coming to this dance are boys raised in an atmosphere that does its damndest to emasculate them and winding up on campuses where they are targeted as predators, and girls marinated in the boys-are-evil mindset from first grade. Hard to see how this ends well.

    3. “Maybe there was a rape culture 30 years ago”

      I doubt it. The idea of “rape culture” is just absurd on it’s face. As if a society would function or last if something like rape was an established social institution. It’s like a “rioting culture”.

      1. and that’s not to say that I don’t think that people have gotten away with it, Polanski is a great example. But I’d blame that more on the progressive personality cult then on some widespread social acceptance of rape. Plenty of people are willing to call a spade a spade. But progs don’t and then they assume that everyone is like them.

        1. “…they assume that everyone is like them.”

          That’s the foundation of their world view. They believe that people will not be decent, just, or kind to each other unless forced to be by government, because that’s the way they are. They project their own cravenness on the whole human race.

        2. I posit that progs were never concerned about rape in the first place. Witness that they only care about rape under the correct circumstances. Polanski is a perfect example. They genuinely don’t give a shit that he’s a convicted rapist, and argue that raping kids is no reason to deny one’s self the pleasure of seeing his movies, or some shit.

          Prison rape – nope, no fucks given by the progs. Sweaty hairy male convicts being raped is not on the priority list.

          Liberal female schoolteachers sleeping with their male students. Woo, you go girlfriend! Getchoo some, uh, we’ve come a long way, baby! Flip the genders and they have a fucking coronary. OH. MY. GAWD.

          The dialogue isn’t even remotely consistent. If one only cares about rape depending on whose doing the raping, then I believe it is logical to conclude that rape isn’t something one cares about at all.

          1. Polanski is not a convicted rapist. He only plead to having sex with a minor. The unlawful and rape charges were dropped. Did what he do fall under “rape”? Probably. And his legal ordeal was more than what others pleading to/convicted of the same charges at that time were. Also, he and his victim agreed to a financial settlement (somewhere in the mid six figures or higher) which he has paid in full.

            1. I… will look that up. I was certain (when I posted) that he was convicted, and fled the country to avoid his prison term.

              I could be wrong. It was way before my time.

            2. And having looked it up, he plead guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, who by law was not old enough to form consent.

              I could probably use more words to call something rape without ever using the actual word, but it would take a moment and I’m not that drunk.

              Point stands. Only his mother would walk around insisting, “No, no, no-no-no. He wasn’t convicted of rape *air quotes* it was just unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor under fourteen.”

    4. I wish HazelMeade would roofie me.

  19. Relevant =

    There was an update to the national crime victimization survey published in December which no one in the media seems the slightest bit interested in citing (compared to giving Jessica Valenti more quotes)…

    e.g.
    “1995?2013 found that non-students aged 18-24 were 20% more likely to be sexually assaulted than students. Also, as these Reuters graphics show, the severity of the assault was worse for non-students, the rate of completed rape as opposed to other kinds of assault being 50% higher.”

    etc.

    you could publish mountains of data reinforcing the same point over and over and the professional-victimizers will simply cherry pick the facts they prefer anyway…

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  21. What the “rape culture” zealots hate about Erdeley’s article is that it, like so many similar hoaxes, leads to the obvious question: If there’s so much rape in college, why do we see so many hoaxes and so few real reports of rape?

    1. ” If there’s so much rape in college, why do we see so many hoaxes and so few real reports of rape?”

      There are certainly real examples of violent sexual assault that the advocates could point to…. its just that reality is imperfect compared to their narrative.

      They much prefer things like the duke lacrosse players, or UVA fratboys …

      ….because the zealots are themselves young white women who want to gain power over young white men. Who want to create an atmosphere where men are terrified.

      There’s also the point that much of this “Rape Crisis” narrative really has very little to do with ‘crime’ and everything to do with increased political control over public-funded higher-education.

      The Obama admin’s Dept of Ed made a full-court press on the issue of Title IX last year … and these stories about ‘campus rape’ were used as ammunition to advance their cause. They wanted to bully colleges into hiring lots more politically-connected “advocates” and Title IX compliance personnel. The actual issue of ‘real rape’ seems to me completely besides the point of what they were trying to accomplish.

      I think people under-appreciate the degree to which “campus rape culture” is largely the invention of some personnel in the DoE and a cadre of advocates who see it as a means of self-empowerment.

      1. If I remember correctly the bill that McCaskill pushed through the senate on military sexual assault (basically systematically abridging male soldiers’ due process rights) was also on the back of a high profile military rape of a female soldier… which later turned out to be false and the alleged victim even recanted.

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  23. Indeed, Rolling Stone’s final withdrawal of its story this week, following Columbia’s cool dismantling of it, has, perversely, given rise to a chorus of demands that we now focus on the true problem: the epidemic of rape on campus.

    It’s as if the big take-away from the exoneration of Captain Dreyfus was the need not to lose focus on the pernicious and extensive influence of the Jews in the French army.

    1. A nice one.

  24. “It’s this madness that we must now challenge. And it will require…all of us picking apart victim feminism, advocacy research, the demonization of men (especially of the frat variety), the culture of misanthropy, and the modern urge to trash both due process and civil rights”

    I have done just that, in the form of two dozen long-form pictorial essays, including:

    When Progressive Social Change Becomes Regressive Ideology: From Women’s Liberation to Cultural Misandry

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      1. It’s only a free will offering for those who are interested in understanding the subject – not intended for the willfully ignorant like yourself.

        1. And I’ve actually read your work!

          Doesn’t make you any less of a shameless troll endlessly flogging the same shit everywhere

  25. According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, between 1995 and 2011 only 0.6 percent of college women had experienced an attempted or actual sexual assault, which is less than the 0.8 percent of non-college women aged 18 to 24 who had the same experience over the same time.

    That’s wrong, and Yoffe is wrong, and ” the University of Colorado Denver’s Rennison” is either wrong or misunderstood. Those numbers are per year. So the chance some dumb chick whose been in college for 6 years has experienced an attempted or actual sexual assault while a student is closer to 3.6%.

    1. Except for those trying to inflate the numbers to match their rhetoric, the typical college career is four years, and it’s not necessarily different women who are the victims of sexual assault in different years – there are repeat victimizations.

      So, at most, the chance of being a victim of sexual assault as an undergraduate student woman is 3% (and that is for all forms of sexual assault, not just rape, which would be 0.8%).

      But that is a far cry from the 20%-25% that the “rape culture” propagandists have been insisting is the actual rate of victimization, ever since the 2007 Campus Sexual Assault study extrapolated those numbers from an unrepresentative sample, defining as sexual assault incidents that the women surveyed did not consider to be so, and multiplying their findings by five years to make it appear more frequent than it was. But the authors did state that their findings could not be generalized to any other college, let alone to the entire nation.

      1. uhmmm… okay

  26. Though I think libertarianism provably won’t work (and instead, a more nuanced ever changing dynamic balance of gov and market power will) I still love Reason for … stranding up for reason.

    Boys need to be taught not to rape no more than girls need to be taught not to murder … because the vast majority do not. A small % of unsocialize sociopaths or criminally minded do and they need to be locked up.

    As is, the rape culture narrative is leading to stupid policies such as the very unnatural “affirmative consent” which assumes that males are guilty and female have lily-white purity, weakness and are dupes.

    A further problem is that “campus feminism” indoctrinates that almost anything is sexual harassment from morning after regret to making a romantic pass. As an employer this hits me all the time. A female will make a complaint to me, I log it and look into it and find a male said something insulting and then wrote a letter of apology. This was interpreted as “sexist” because this meant that somehow she was supposed to validate his feelings of being sorry.

    Anyhow, cleanly stated. Thanks.

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