Teacher Tenure on Trial in NYC!


Do parents and students at public schools have standing to sue over teacher tenure?

Staten Island Supreme Court Judge Philip Minardo has ruled that they "clearly have standing," meaning a potentially huge court case about how tenure affects education can move forward.

From the Daily News writeup of the case:

Two groups, The NYC Parents Union and the Partnership for Educational Justice, alleged that state laws governing teacher tenure and seniority protect ineffective teachers and deny children their right under the state constitution to be taught basic literacy, calculating and verbal skills.

They argued that

 three years is not long enough to determine if a teacher is effective enough to get tenure and that the systems for evaluating teacher performance are poor because in 2012, for example, only 1% of the teachers were branded as ineffective but only 31% of their students met minimal proficiency standards.

Last year, Staten Island Live reported, "The suit was spurred on by a recent anti-tenure ruling in California, where a Los Angeles judge denied California's tenure and seniority laws, stating that they were unjust to poor and minority students when it came to a sound basic education."

That case, Vergara v. California is the subject of the Reason TV video "How a 14-year old helped bring down teacher tenure in California." Take a look:

For more on the Vergara case, educational reform in both the Golden State and New York, and school choice, go here.

And read this 2006 Reason classic flow-chart by John Stossel and Terry Colon: "How to Fire an Incompetent Teacher."

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  1. …only 1% of the teachers were branded as ineffective but only 31% of their students met minimal proficiency standards.

    You can’t blame bad teaching on dumb kids.

    1. Seriously, have you looked at what these “minimal proficiency standards” are? Even dumb kids can learn the material, and special ed students are exempted (so schools are often putting those who aren’t learning in such classes so the school/teachers look better, at the expense of the student).

      If you compare tests today, with tests from say 1912, you can conclude the teachers/schools aren’t teaching, or the intelligence of the human race has declined significantly.…..-It-VIDEO#

  2. Looks like double jeopardy.

    1. A post so nice, he made it twice!

  3. Anyone who pays taxes in that school district has the standing to sue.

  4. I don’t know about the rest of you, but my family taught me how to read, write, an ‘rithmatic. I don’t think I learned anything I didn’t already know until grade four.

    Why is this the state’s job anyway? Why are we surprised that they suck at it? Why are we surprised at the people that suck so bad they can’t even teach young children how to do basic things have to use the cudgel of the state to maintain employment?

    1. Should be: “…that the people that suck so bad…”

  5. “My welfare sucks and I am going to sue for what I am ‘entitled’?”

    If you get into bed with government you deserve to get fucked.

    1. It’s 2 separate issues. One they can win on, and the other they can’t.

  6. Deblasio was on the news this morning, surrounded by toadies as usual, reminding us that today is the day to sign up for free day care “pre-K”. I heard somewhere that fewer parents than expected were signing up. Gosh, I can’t imagine.

  7. Can we do this at universities too?

  8. I just want to know the turn-over rate of teachers in the NY school district.

    1. The teachers leave when they retire.

      1. And unlike ANY organization in the world, the SD’s hiring practices are sooooooooooooo good, they never hire anyone who should be canned!

        1. Governments can’t admit to making mistakes, because then their aura of infallibility might be questioned. So when there are cops and teachers and bureaucrats who should be canned, they will do anything to defend them. Because anything else is admitting that they made a mistake when hiring the person, and that is simply not an option.

        2. God, working for a public university was the best. When I taught at Miami, they put 10.5% of my pay into a 401k and 10% of mine went it. My health benefits were fully paid for and amazing, and I worked like 3 days a week! WHY DID I QUIT THAT JOB?!?!??

    2. The same as any other brainless government job: Zero.

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