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Madison, Wisc. Cop Fatally Shoots Unarmed Teen, New State Law on Investigating Fatal Police Shootings Kicking In

Tony Robinson was reportedly alone and unarmed when shot by a cop looking for him over an alleged battery.

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A Madison, Wisconsin, police officer shot and killed Tony Robinson, an unarmed 19-year-old, after reportedly forcing his way into the apartment "after hearing a disturbance while responding to a call."

According to the Twin Cities Pioneer Press, the officer, Matt Kenny, radioed in that he was going to check on the upstairs apartment just 20 seconds before the shooting.  Police say they received a call about a man, identified to them by dispatchers as Robinson, who had allegedly hit one of his friends and tried to strangle another person. Dispatchers reportedly told police no weapons were reported. Robinson was alone in the upstairs apartment, and police acknowledge he was unarmed when he was fatally shot. Pioneer Press reports:

He was unarmed," [the police chief, Mike] Koval said, "and that's going to make this all the more complicated … for the public to accept, to understand and to wait patiently for what other circumstances, if any, were there … such that deadly force had to be used."

Attorney General Brad Schimel, who oversees the Division of Criminal Investigation, declined to provide more information about what led to the shooting.

"To preserve the integrity of our investigation, it is our practice not to share details while that investigation is in process," Schimel said in a statement.

Thanks to the efforts of a father of a police shooting victim in Kenosha, the Wisconsin legislature passed a law requiring fatal police shootings to be investigated by the state. The first test of the new, more independent process, was the investigation of the shooting of Dontre Hamilton by Officer Christopher Manney, who became the first Milwaukee cop in 45 years to be fired for a fatal on-duty shooting.

The state team that investigated the shooting was led by a former Milwaukee cop, and about half of the team was made up of former Milwaukee cops as well. The team found the shooting of Hamilton, an unarmed homeless man sleeping on a park bench, justified. Gov. Scott Walker, a likely Republican presidential candidate, said he wasn't sure if the state Department of Justice made the right decision but that he wouldn't get involved. The fatal shooting of Robinson, which has already sparked protests, will now be investigated by the state in a similar process.

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  1. Oh boy – here we go….

    1. At least the headline was “Cop shoots unarmed teen” instead of “White cop, aka Bull Connor reborn, has viciously slain and innocent black man who was black. By the way he was black and the cop was white if you didn’t get that already.”

  2. Umm, taser?

    The one thing they should be good for is violent, unarmed suspects. So why wasn’t that option A?

    1. Option A leaves witnesses.

    2. 1) Officer safety?
      2) Training?
      3) NEEDS MOAR BUDGET! ?
      4) MOAR training?
      5) Scared?
      6) Respect my authoritah!

      Pick one. Or many.

      1. Furtive. Movement.

        1. You forgot the obligatory reference to “waistband,” WTF.

  3. If you can’t shoot a sleeping homeless man, who can you shoot?!?

      1. Dick Cheney’s friends?

        1. Plus you get an apology from him for getting in the way of your shot.

          1. “Welllll….I’ll let it go. THIS time…”

        2. Dude it is Wisconsin. That means it is Bob Knight’s friends who get blasted.

          http://articles.latimes.com/19…..s/sp-25153

          I’m sure there is an easy shot clock joke there

  4. “The state team that investigated the shooting was led by a former Milwaukee cop, and about half of the team was made up of former Milwaukee cops as well.”

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.

    1. seems legit

  5. So, like the last one, should we assume that this is going to be swept under the rug and the officer’s going to get disability pay due the trauma of killing an unarmed man?

    1. At this point, if you really have to ask…

  6. Judging by the dead kid’s excellent neck, Officer Peckerwood was scared shitless and knew he had no chance to subdue him. Cops who have no idea how to control someone are disgustingly common.

    1. And if you just pull the trigger, you won’t even get a bruise!
      So simple!

  7. the officer, Matt Kenny, radioed in that he was going to check on the upstairs apartment just 20 seconds before the shooting

    It’s getting to the point where when I hear that the cop shot the person (because we hear enough stories about cops shooting people that it is its own category) within seconds of encountering them, it has to be another cop-pants-shitting scenario. Why do we never hear about the cops encountering someone, pulling their gun, and then yelling “get on the ground, get on the ground” for a while? Because they just start shooting. Every time. The Seattle woodcarver guy, shot within seconds of the cop showing up. This guy. Tamir Rice.

    This can only get worse. You can’t have trigger-happy cowards running around with the ability to pull out a gun and start shooting at just about anyone without any kind of consequence.

    1. The Tamir Rice shooting was the worst. Cop literally pulls up within 10 feet of a kid who might conceivably have a gun and shoots him to death without even giving him a warning.

      Fact: If any of us saw someone with something we thought might be a gun, went outside and shot him immediately, we would be in jail for the next 20 years.

      1. Get rid of immunity, allow private prosecutions, and this shit would stop pretty quickly.

        1. Get rid of immunity, allow private prosecutions, and this shit would stop pretty quickly.

          Absofuckinglutely.

      2. Yeah, but dude, it’s even worse. Even if I could get away with it, I would never, ever just start shooting at someone if I didn’t have a very clear idea of what was going on and if they were an actual threat. Because you just don’t do that if you’re a civilized human being. So it’s not just that they can get away with it. It’s the fact that they can get away with it and they actually want to be able to do it.

        The power to shoot people without consequence is of basically zero value to me, because it’s nothing I want to do. But that’s why the people who become cops do so; because it IS of value to them.

        1. “Why did you join my beloved force?!?”

          “Sir! To kill, sir!”

          1. “Outstanding, Officer Pyle. I think we finally found something that you do well.”

          2. +1 war face

        2. Yeah, but dude, it’s even worse. Even if I could get away with it, I would never, ever just start shooting at someone if I didn’t have a very clear idea of what was going on

          That tells me that you’re not the sort of person who would become a cop to begin with. You’re too moral for the job. But since the type of person who becomes a cop is typically a moral retard, we cannot let them have immunity. Immunity would only be a positive thing for society if 99% of cops weren’t awful people, but they are.

          1. It isn’t that those becoming cops are ‘moral retards,’ it is that those that aren’t resign because they can not function within a corrupt system. So they either have to resign or become amoral.

      3. Without giving him a warning? They warned the corpse multiple times!

        1. “STOP RESISTING!!”

        2. “I then fired three warning shots into his back.”

    2. trigger-happy cowards

      Cops aren’t cowards, they’ve just never been tested. But they like to think that if they were, they would pass.

      1. That was horrible. I’m sorry, everyone. I hate that song too.

        1. Dude, I know you’re a monster, but come on. Ska is…just awful. If you ever reference Sublime or Fishbone, I will personally shun you. Except for our sessions in the basement. We’ll still have those.

          1. EPI MOVED FROM LONG BEACH DOWN TO LA

        2. How can you a hate a song that was on the soundtrack of Krippendorf’s Tribe, the best comedy of the 1990s?

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krippendorf‘s_Tribe

          1. You are truly a monster.

            1. Note that he SFed the link, too.

  8. A couple of points to bear in mind:

    1) an unarmed man can still kill or inflict the sort of injuries that make use of deadly force a reasonable form of self defense .

    2) the theory behind tasers are that they are a less-lethal option in use of force… ie they allow a wielder who is in a situation where deadly force is appropriate to have a choice that is less likely to kill their target while defending themselves.

    3) the short time between the initiation of the encounter and the shooting would be consistent with a legitimate act of self defense than a situation that takes longer to develop. If I burst into a room and someone immediately tries to kill me and I defend myself, my behavior is a lt less egregious than if I burst into a room, and I talk to someone who is calm, and they get more and more agitated and I don’t defuse the situation but allow it to escalate to the point where I have to shoot the guy.

    4) If he is attacking someone, and another person hears it, that other person does legally have a right to intervene in their defense – even using deadly force.

    I am not asserting all these conditions hold in this case, but merely observing that they could hold.

    1. I am not asserting all these conditions hold in this case, but merely observing that they could hold.

      I’m not saying my shit does smell like roses, just that it could smell like roses.

    2. We know very little, at this point, its true.

      Could be a good shoot. But absent more facts, I don’t think we can say.

      The problem is that, for proles, the default assumption is that every shooting is a bad one until the defendant proves up self-defense.

      For cops, the default assumption is that every shooting is a good one, and there be better be overwhelming evidence to the contrary before an indictment even gets handed down.

      1. What’s interesting to me is how often cops foolishly put themselves in situations where they have to shoot the suspect to escape serious injury. Look at the video I posted above – the cop had to shoot the guy because the cop had no idea how to subdue him and allowed himself to be wrestled into a helpless position. Disgraceful.

        I would bet money that this situation was similar – rather than waiting for backup or otherwise being prepared to subdue a drunk, fat, strong kid, he rushed in blithely, found himself attacked, and, having no idea how to grapple, his only reasonable option was to shoot.

        1. Or that cop that shot the guy in the backseat of the car. He could have waited for backup, which did arrive shortly after the shooting. Instead he tried to deal with four people in the car by himself. And was thus “justified” in shooting when the one guy started acting hinky.

        2. I think people give cops a lot of leeway because it is boring, unpleasant job that most people do not want. The jobs go to the people who show up for them. And the people who show up are interested in violence, even if they are not good at it. Then people are surprised when police don’t act like sociology majors from Oberlin.

          The cop could have just beaten the guy senseless with a club and then cuffed him. But then he’d get in trouble for excessive force.

    3. “3) the short time between the initiation of the encounter and the shooting would be consistent with a” trigger happy retard with less than the bare minimum morals to be considered human.
      Ditto for anyone who would stick up for the degenerate.

  9. Here we go again, indeed. He’s another “gentle giant” who was involved in an armed home invasion robbery last year. Maybe the policeman was trigger-happy, I don’t know. But can we please stop the pearl-clutching about “unarmed”? As tarran says above, unarmed people can still do stupid and violent things.

    1. Pappy, killing an armed man is easier to justify than killing an unarmed man, because the armed man can cross the threshold of posing an imminent threat to the life, etc. much more quickly and easily than an unarmed man.

      So, when an unarmed person gets gunned down, more skepticism about whether the threshold was crossed is understandable, and even advisable.

      1. I’m not arguing against skepticism. I’m arguing against what often seems to be the default leftist/libertarian position, the assumption that a cop who shoots an unarmed suspect has done something wrong, or cowardly, or racist, or whatever. Maybe, but I just don’t like leaping to that conclusion.

    2. So if I want to put a hit out on someone I just call the cops? Sweet.

      1. This is what several of us have been observing.

        1. It is called SWATing.

    3. Yeah, everyone the cops shoot is basically a superhero or ex-special forces, so they can literally kill you with their thoughts if they want. That’s why you feel the need, in every single fucking case, to come in and tell us how dangerous unarmed people can be. Because shooting people within 20 seconds is necessary, every time…somehow.

      1. Keep in mind what pitiful physical specimens most pigs are. If you’re a 5’6″ 260 pound dork, you can’t afford to get in fights, can you?

        1. Sure you can. Because you can just kill anyone who might even slightly have a chance of taking you with impunity. Pretty convenient, right?

          1. Look, assholes, any common object could be a weapon, so the cop can’t take any chances. You can hide guns in anything: cell phones, wallets, fake guns, children’s toys, dildos, small, yappy dogs, etc.

            1. And your mom.

              1. ASS GUN! DOWN!

                BLAMBLAMBLAM!

    4. Funny that I, without the theft-financed training, can disarm a person spun on meth and armed with a butcher knife in each hand. . . without shooting them – without harming them in any way, shape, or form – without harming myself, without harming their intended victim.

      The only differences are. . . I’m not a cunt, coward, or retarded. Nor am I an apologist for same.

      1. The only differences are. . . I’m not a cunt, coward, or retarded. Nor am I an apologist for same.

        ^^^ This ^^^

  10. The most important point was not addressed in the article. Did the officer make it home safe, with his pension intact ??????

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  12. complicated … for the public to accept, to understand and to wait patiently for what other circumstances, if any, were there

    Every time the script. The same cliches. It’s complicated. Wait. Be patient. Other circumstances. There really must be a handbook with all the right phrases in it because they use them every time. Of course I’m skeptical when the cops are reading out of the Stonewalling Handbook.

  13. A cop was killed in Phila. on Friday. He was at the counter of a shop when two armed robbers came up, with guns drawn, and announced a robbery. From what has been released so far, the cop spun around, drew his gun and about 50 shots were traded – cop shot in head, one suspect shot in leg by the cop’s partner who was outside the shop. What would you do if you were that cop? Draw or realize they had the drop on you and raise your hands in surrender and let them take the money? Two kids now have no dad, and two punks have ruined whatever remained of their miserable lives.

    1. That is a shame.

      From what I read it seems that the officer took whatever time necessary to move in a direction so the robbers, when firing at him, wouldn’t be hitting the other patrons in the game store. So here we have a conscientious police officer putting himself at greater risk by taking precious time to look out for bystanders before engaging armed robbers.

  14. I’ve never seen a story where a cop shot someone after failing to subdue them with a tazer or a club. The pattern I see is cop tries to subdue someone by hands alone, starts to lose, and then shoots.

    A decent cop should be able to subdue most people without any weapons. And if you can’t subdue someone with a club or a tazer, you have no business being a cop.

    Whenever I bring up clear cut cases of police brutality or incompetence, all I get is the same story is that most of the time the police do the right thing. Since when is that an excuse? Is a guy who cheats on his wife once innocent because he was faithful for 15 years?

    1. Fuck a hundred women over a lifetime, you’re a stud. But suck one dick…

  15. So the blue state of Wisconsin just got around to requiring automatic investigations of deaths at the hands of cops?

    Montana requires an inquest, complete with jury, if a death occurs “while a person is being taken into custody or is in the custody of a peace officer or if the death is caused by a peace officer, except when criminal charges have been or will be filed.”

    http://law.justia.com/codes/mo…..-46-4-201/

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