Feminism

Feminists Have No Right to be Pissed Off at Patricia Arquette

She's only playing the identity politics oppression card that they handed her

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Patricia Arquette thought she'd become a feminist heroine by using her Oscar speech to demand wage equality for

Patricia Arquette
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women. Instead she became the feminist laughing stock. Feminists at ThinkProgress and Reality Check are accusing her of "intersectionality failure" and "structural erasure" (seriously! I'm not making this up) — which are just fancy ways of saying that she upset their oppression scorecard.

Her comments, especially that women deserve wage equality with men because they give "birth to every taxpayer and citizen of this nation," were genuinely weird. But they were not her fault, I note in my column at The Week. Feminism and its identity politics encourages a search for oppression — real or imagined — even by rich, privileged, white women like Arquette who, incidentally, voluntarily accepted lower wages than her dog sitter to act in Boyhood, the indie film that took 12 years to make and won her the Oscar.

But feminism's bigger problem is not that it encourages white women to whine. It is that it prevents the genuinely oppressed women from getting redress.

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  1. You can’t go wrong by telling the audience to call their parents and tell them you love them.

  2. Oh, good lord, who cares?

    Altertatively, “Forget it, Shikha – it’s Tinsel Town…”

    1. Basically feminists have proven Jonathan Chait to be correct. Social justice warriors eat their own.

      It’s self perpetuating stupidity because everyone is out to prove that they are the most pure and care the most about social justice, which comes at the expense of tearing down everyone around you.

      1. iBasically feminists have proven Jonathan Chait to be correct. Social justice warriors eat their own.

        Nice taco. Can I take a picture?

  3. “But feminism’s bigger problem is not that it encourages white women to whine. It is that it prevents the genuinely oppressed women from getting redress.”

    My problem with feminism is that it believes women lack moral agency and are incapable of taking responsibility for their lives so they need special protections.

    1. Look Banjos, just accept the fact that you’re an emotional, sensitive creature and thus if something “triggers” you, you can’t be held responsible for your actions.

      Becuase noting is more feminist than outright stating that women can’t control their emotions.

      1. Becuase noting is more feminist than outright stating that women can’t control their emotions.

        While at the same time being stronger and more resilient than men in every conceivable way.

    2. I find it humorous that if you believe women can make it on their own you’re sexist, and if you believe women need a helping male hand then you believe in equality.

      1. Humor is a tool of the patriarchy. Which is why all women comics are terrible.

        1. Bonnie McFarlane is awesome.

        2. There’s a glimmer of inward reflection when feminists lose their shit by men asserting that women aren’t funny. It really hits home to them because they almost grasp that it is feminists that aren’t funny, not women in general.

          There are millions of funny women, but feminist humor doesn’t exist. The laughter you hear at all political “humor” is just the death rattle of the human spirit.

          1. The soundtrack of my life is the death rattle of the human spirit. And also Watain.

          2. There are millions of funny women

            Citation needed.

            1. Does it count if you’re laughing at/with them just to nail them.

            2. I gave a humorous speech at my graduation and had folks laughing so hard they were turning red. Thing is, I made fun of myself. Told jokes about the shit I pulled through out my life, and most importantly I didn’t try to sell a political point. I just tried to make folks laugh.

              That’s something a lot of feminists comedians just don’t get. The point of humor is to make people laugh not convert to your political point of view.

              1. The point of humor is to make people laugh not convert to your political point of view.

                I once saw Jim Jeffries make a room full of middle class, white New Jerseyans double over with laughter after a series of 9/11 jokes. That routine could go very poorly with that crowd.

      2. It’s quite a conundrum feminists have created for themselves. “Women are oppressed BUT are also equal to men in every way.” Ok, so if they are equal to men in every way how did they allow themselves to become oppressed?

        1. I got in a row with the girlfriend over this. Eradicating (or just denying) gender distinctions is really quite antifeminine, but apparently you’re not suppose to suggest that out loud.

          1. You also can’t say that you don’t treat people differently based on the color of their skin because that’s racist.

          2. As always with SJWs, it’s not enough to demand equality in the law, they want equality of outcome. So you have to deny basic biology and claim that their are no biological differences in men and women. But I don’t think most of these crazy wenches want to eradicate gender distinctions, I think they want to eradicate masculinity.

            1. But I don’t think most of these crazy wenches want to eradicate gender distinctions, I think they want to eradicate masculinity.

              Bingo. To modern feminists, masculinity equals oppression, so they have no respect for it and believe it must be destroyed.

            2. They want to eradicate men as the predominating political force, but they want to subsume masculinity. They want the supposed privileges attending having a penis (while accepting few, if any, of the obligations).

    3. My problem with feminism is that I have no idea what it even is.

      1. it means whatever I do is wrong and hateful.

        1. As long as you have a penis, this is true.

          1. So you’re saying Patricia Arquette…

    4. Let me mansplain the real problem with feminism to you, unbepenised one.

      1. As long as you manspread while doing it.

        1. Can you imagine if men were lecturing women on the subway about how they are sitting? Jezebel would shit itself.

          1. Can you please get your pocketbook off my fucking lap? You don’t need three seats to spread your shit across.

            1. How else can she strike a blow against the Patriarchy by combatting manspreading?

          2. Men now can’t talk, walk, or sit without being criticized. And they have the audacity to claim that they are being oppressed. The cognitive dissonance is shocking. They live such sad sheltered lives. I want to drop them off on a deserted island and see how long they last before they are crying out for men to help them.

            1. Being criticized is not oppression.

              1. Tell the women that.

                1. Seriously, American women are the most privileged, pampered, creatures on the face of the earth, and so many of them are just constantly whining about how oppressed they are. And the ones that aren’t actually whining mostly believe they really are oppressed in some way. It’s completely insane.

                  1. American women are perhaps the most privileged apart from American men, who nevertheless more than hold their own in the whining department.

                    1. “Let the strong wind of fish farming blow across the country!”

                2. Which women would those be?

                  1. Which women would those be?

                    Even you cannot be this dense.

                    1. Even you cannot be this dense.

                      Sure he can, Tony is not just dishonest, he’s also an idiot.

              2. Being criticized is not oppression.

                Bullshit you believe that. If someone criticizes a group you consider to be a sacred cow, it becomes oppression pretty damn fast.

                1. I wonder how fast his head would spin if someone came in here criticizing gays? Do you think it would pop right off?

                  1. Go to any gay marriage thread to see exactly that.

                    1. Ton’s apparently a Woo Girl.

                    2. It’s OK, Tony. Hypocrisy is kind of your thing.

              3. “Tony|2.27.15 @ 10:48AM|#

                Being criticized is not oppression.

                OMG BUT SOMEONE IS “HARASSING” ME* ONLINE MAYBE I BETTER CALL MSNBC AND ACCUSE MY CRITICS OF BEING VIOLENT RACIST HATEMONGERS

                (*how is ‘harassment’ possible when you have a twitter account? is the idea of just ‘turning it off’ and resorting to other forms of communication incomprehensible? Who ‘forced’ these people to read unpleasant things said about them?)

            2. Survivor already did it. If I recall the women didnt do so well.

              1. Only because of the patriarchy and male oppression.

              2. Which reminds me of this. I don’t agree with everything this guy says, but this story made me laugh.

                1. That really is telling. I’ve heard some people say that if it wasn’t for testosterone, humanity would still be living in mud huts. Based on that Accidental Experiment, even the mud huts would be questionable.

                  1. I thought it was caves, but with fancy curtains.

        2. Meh – I don’t like manspreading because my need to sit down trumps his need to show me how manly he is. OTOH, if there are a lot of free seats, he can spread away – but he still looks like an idiot.

    5. That’s pretty much true of all identity politics. Honestly, whatever was initially intended, these movements have all morphed into, “You, minority/oppressed person, submit to my enlightened wisdom.”

      I’m stunned that the classes in question fall for this shit, which is overtly and, in my mind, almost purely about politics, not preventing injustice.

      1. I’m stunned that the classes in question fall for this shit, which is overtly and, in my mind, almost purely about politics, not preventing injustice.

        You don’t need to add any subjective qualifiers. It is purely about politics.

        1. I hedge a bit because it’s not totally politics for everyone. I suppose that falls into the useful idiot category. Some people believe that it’s all about ensuring equality for all, and don’t hear the axes grinding.

          1. I agree some people mistakenly believe that it’s not about politics.

            1. We call those “useful idiots.” See: Tony.

              1. Actually, Tony is more of a useless idiot.

  4. But feminism’s bigger problem is not that it encourages white women to whine.

    If it’s reasonable to say that whites as a group are privileged by virtue of their racial category, then perhaps it’s reasonable to say that whites as a group have historically done something to earn a privileged position, like say pioneering free(ish) markets, property rights and rational moral philosophy to name a few.

    1. culture != race

      1. For cultural marxists and other assorted lefty culture warriors, yes it does. That’s why criticism of Islam is considered ‘racist’ and it’s why saying “rut ro” in the fashion of a native Chinese speaker trying their hand at Engrish is ‘racist’ too.

        1. I’m pretty sure that’s a Dane trying to speak English.

        2. Was that a native Chinese speaker or Scooby Doo?

        3. I’m thinking the rut ro was more in the fashion of Scooby, but I could be wrong.

          1. Everyone knows that Scooby-doo is like blackface for Chinamen.

            1. So all Hanna Barbera dogs are just stand-ins for the Chinese? Astro suddenly makes a lot more sense.

          2. You’re not wrong.

        4. For cultural marxists and other assorted lefty culture warriors, yes it does.

          Yes, I know. But I will still separate the two.

  5. “But feminism’s bigger problem is not that it encourages white women to whine.”

    Feminism’s biggest problem is that it concerns itself almost exclusively to the problems of upper middle class,women who either are white or might as well be for all the actual oppression they endure. Not that such people don’t have problems, even institutional ones, but compared to the problems of any woman living in Saudi Arabia, for example, those problems are trivia.

    But most Feminists are incapable to ackowledging that. They mark a grand fuss about stuff that, while it matters, doesn’t really matter very much. Amd in doing so, they make themselves absurd.

    1. Like the plight of semi attractive women receiving compliments from men while walking through NYC for hours on end.

    2. A lot of them do acknowledge it but just handwaive it by saying they need not concern themselves with injustices they can’t change and instead should focus on the getting Sandra Fluke subsidized birth control.

      #THESTRUGGLE

      1. #YESALLWOMEN

    3. Feminism’s biggest problem is that it concerns itself almost exclusively to the problems of upper middle class,women who either are white or might as well be for all the actual oppression they endure. Not that such people don’t have problems, even institutional ones, but compared to the problems of any woman living in Saudi Arabia, for example, those problems are trivia.

      Which is why it’s so ridiculous that the FEMEN protestors go nude or topless to protest ‘rape culture’ in Western countries. If they would do this in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan they would be raped for doing that, they’d lucky that’s all that would happen to them.

  6. “intersectionality failure” and “structural erasure”

    SCIENCE!

    1. Alan Sokal nods approvingly.

  7. What’s really going on here is that feminists thought her remarks were inappropriate and grandstanding. But they can’t really say that because they want to preserve the opportunity to grandstand when it suits them. So they had to confabulate some bullshit about intersectionality to pretend the REAL reason her remarks were inappropriate was because they weren’t PC ENOUGH.

  8. The only way to win the oppression olympics is not to play.

  9. What the fuck is “intersectionality”?

    1. It’s a word invented and used vaguely in order to mask the stench of bullshit.

    2. You’ll have to watch all the episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion to understand fully.

      1. And now we know why your head exploded.

    3. Placing the struggle of white women in the context of the struggles of black and brown people and the struggles of class and alternate sexuality.

      It’s an effort to unite everyone in the world against white cis hetero non-poor men. And I’m not being an MRA paranoid in describing it that way.

      1. Sorry, any disagreement with the feminist party line automatically makes you an MRA paranoid.

        1. Do you believe in the goal of political, social, and economic equality of the sexes?

          1. Do you believe we should turn the whole country into a socialist fairyland by the joint operation of the army and people?

            1. No. Now you go.

              1. God, you’re an idiot. I believe everyone should be treated exactly the same under the law, and let the outcomes be whatever each individual can achieve.

          2. No. Why should I? For all the crying I hear about equality of one sort or another, I’ve yet to see a scrap of evidence that any such thing exists in reality, and plenty to suggest the opposite.

            The only people who ever benefited from an assumption of equality are those who were obviously inferior.

            1. I said the goal. If everyone were equal already, there wouldn’t need to be equality movements.

              1. If everyone were equal already, there wouldn’t need to be equality movements.

                No. People are individuals, they will never be equal. The difference in our abilities is a strength, not a weakness.

                Are you ready to take a pay cut and give it to someone in your field who makes less than you?

                1. If you don’t even make the effort to understand what feminism is, how can you trust yourself to criticize it effectively?

                  1. If you don’t even make the effort to understand what feminism is, how can you trust yourself to criticize it effectively?

                    Look in the mirror, ‘Tony’, and replace “feminism” with “libertarianism”.

              2. Equality under the law or equality of outcome? Those wanting equality of outcome will never get their wish. Ever. They may create a society of even larger inquality by trying to create a more equal one, but they will never get their wish.

                1. Would you accept a society in which women had more political and domestic power and made more money consistently, or would you bitch endlessly about it?

                  1. I’m an anarchist so I have no desire for any political power for anyone, not for myself, not for women or for men. I have more domestic power than men do and make as much money as a man does. So what is there left to fight for other than to end government?

                  2. Again, so long as everyone is treated exactly the same under the law, let the outcomes be whatever each individual can achieve.

                  3. Except, as has been proven over and over again, women DO make as much as men, and a lot of times more then men.

                    Just cause you and feminists can’t grok that fact doesn’t make it untrue.

                    1. Which bullshit redpill website did you pull that claim from.

                    2. http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender Wage Gap Final Report.pdf

                      And that right wing bastion, HuffPo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..73804.html

                    3. Although additional research in this area is clearly needed, this study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct. The differences in raw wages may be almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers.

                      Look, this was dumped on the public by an outgoing BOOOOOOOOOOOSH appointee. It means nothing.

          3. Those three things cannot occur simultaneously. Achieving 3 requires that 1 and 2 be forsaken.

          4. “Do you believe in the goal of political, social, and economic equality of the sexes?”

            Most feminists don’t even believe in that.

          5. Do you know who else believed in the goal of political, social, and economic equality of the sexes?

      2. It’s an effort to unite everyone in the world against white cis hetero non-poor men.

        I disagree. Most of what I’ve had the misfortune to read concerning “intersectionality” is just the Opression Olympics.

        “I’m a woman”
        “Well, I’m a Black woman. You don’t have to worry about the ‘intersection’ of racism and patriarchy, like I do.”
        “Fuck both of y’all, I’m a gay Black woman. You don’t know what the intersection of homophobia, racism, and patriarchy are like.”
        “Luxury! I’m a disabled gay Black woman…” ad absurdum, ad nauseam

        1. I was describing how it was meant; you are describing how it is used. We are both right, Hazel. 🙂

        2. It’s a shame Azalea Cooley was a fraud.

          1. I had not heard of Cooley before. That shit is hilarious. Figures she was a corrections officer.

  10. Let’s not forget: the only thing a contemporary feminist of the type that Shikha is describing hates more than men are women who are not sufficiently feminist or who don’t toe the line on feminist orthodoxy.

    Just look at the shitstorm that kicks up when some prominent woman criticizes feminism or all the nasty hate Cathy Young and Christina Hoff Sommers get from the Jezebel crowd.

  11. I couldn’t resist.

    Happy Howling!

    1. Good stuff.

  12. “feminism’s bigger problem is not that it encourages white women to whine”

    They were whining? really? I had no idea = I wasn’t listening.

    1. That’s cause you’re obviously a sexist cis-shitlord.

      1. a feminist professor in college once accused men writ-large of “not listening” to women.

        They also, in the same sentence, said, “…and we don’t want “answers” or “solutions” to the things we say = we just want you to listen!”

        I raised my hand and said, “When do we know when you’re *done*”?

        The not-so subtle point about my above comment =

        All this feminist whining produces the very outcome they whine about = it simply bores men to the point where they stop listening to any bullshit they say about anything. it becomes a stream of WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WHA…to which the only reply is “yes dear”. Which translates to “this is why no one takes you seriously”

  13. Welcome to the Kentucky Derby of Oppression – and there’s the starting bell!

    Spoiled Actress comes out of the gate with her equal-wages speech, but – wait! – here comes Whiny Jezebellian pulling ahead of her!

    Now here’s the Left-Handed Latina of Color, who just got here from her welding job, and wow, is she making up for lost time! She overtakes Spoiled Actress, and is about to pull ahead of Whiny Jezeballian…

    But hold on! Whiny Jezebellian shoved Left-Handed Latina of Color off the track! Left-Handed Latina of Color is down! I guess Whiny Jezebellian doesn’t want anyone taking her oppression crown…

    1. And as usual, there are the also-rans in the back…Gay Russian, Middle Eastern Christian, Plague Victim…I gotta say, their oppression stories are sad, but they don’t have the sexiness or staying power of the front-runners.

  14. Her comments, especially that women deserve wage equality with men because they give “birth to every taxpayer and citizen of this nation,” were genuinely weird. But they were not her fault[…]

    … because of that awful accident that turned her into a ThinkProgress agitprop-repeating moron.

    Feminism and its identity politics encourages a search for oppression ? real or imagined ? even by rich, privileged, white women[…]

    A search for oppression which is not unlike looking for satanic messages in backward-running vinyl records.

    1. At least the satanic messages existed.

      What, you guys didn’t hear them?

      1. Devil bunnies! I snort the nose, Lucifer! Banana, banana!

      2. Re: DesigNate,

        What, you guys didn’t hear them?

        The thing with hidden satanic messages that made me a little bit skeptical is that it didn’t matter if the songs were from AC/DC or Nirvana (that is, in English), the messages were always in the mother tongue of the charlatan journalist who reported them (Spanish, for instance.)

  15. women deserve wage equality with men because they give “birth to every taxpayer and citizen of this nation”.

    They also give birth to every Adam Lanza and Adolph Hitler.

    1. You leave Hitler’s mom out of this!

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