The FBI and Domestic ISIS Arrest: Keeping Fear Alive as a Government Mission
A continuing pattern of domestic terror, courtesy of our FBI.
Glenn Greenwald at The Intercept has some perspective worth keeping in mind regarding this week's spincter-tightening announcement of Domestic ISIS! Right here in New York City!
As my colleague Murtaza Hussain ably documents, "it appears that none of the three men was in any condition to travel or support the Islamic State, without help from the FBI informant." One of the frightening terrorist villains told the FBI informant that, beyond having no money, he had encountered a significant problem in following through on the FBI's plot: his mom had taken away his passport. Noting the bizarre and unhinged ranting of one of the suspects, Hussain noted on Twitter that this case "sounds like another victory for the FBI over the mentally ill."
Greenwald notes with some case studies (see some clips by me at the end of the post on the same theme) that so many of the FBI's victories over terror involve their own nudging otherwise harmless people along to do or say things they can be arrested for—what Greenwald summarizes, in this week's domestic ISIS case and others, as giving us cause to "thank the brave men and women of the FBI for saving us from their own terror plots." resulting in "sending young people to prison for decades for "crimes" which even their sentencing judges acknowledge they never would have seriously considered, let alone committed, in the absence of FBI trickery."
Greenwald asks a question I've been asking since at least 2006 about the domestic terror threat:
how serious of a threat can all of this be, at least domestically, if the FBI continually has to resort to manufacturing its own plots by trolling the Internet in search of young drifters and/or the mentally ill whom they target, recruit and then manipulate into joining? Does that not, by itself, demonstrate how over-hyped and insubstantial this "threat" actually is? Shouldn't there be actual plots, ones that are created and fueled without the help of the FBI, that the agency should devote its massive resources to stopping?
Greenwald ends with a quote he got from the ACLU of Massachusetts's Kade Crockford from the mouth of former FBI assistant director Thomas Fuentes, discussing one of the agency's terror stings:
If you're submitting budget proposals for a law enforcement agency, for an intelligence agency, you're not going to submit the proposal that "We won the war on terror and everything's great," cuz the first thing that's gonna happen is your budget's gonna be cut in half. You know, it's my opposite of Jesse Jackson's 'Keep Hope Alive'—it's 'Keep Fear Alive.' Keep it alive.
On the fifth anniversary of 9/11 I asked "Where's the Terror?" and revisited the strange lack of much demonstrated terror threat against our quite porous country allegedly facing a relentless and unstoppable worldwide gang of suicidal maniacs in such posts as "Undercover Federal Provocateurs Continue to Threaten America!", "Myths of Domestic Terror," and "The FBI: Making Sure we Don't Need to Import Terror from Overseas."
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It will only take one Westgate Shopping Mall type attack for the sphincter to go back to a 9/12 tightness. The Boston Marathon bomb tightened it back up for a while too.
We will get whacked again eventually, so I think a more productive protest of the police state would be to argue that we are better off spending our money preparing for the inevitability by doing things like enhancing our EMS capabilities than paying the Feds to set traps for wanna-be Osamas.
This sphincter goes up to 11.
The FBI scares me a helluva lot more than ISIS.
That was covered in season five.
NO SPOILERS!
At least Brett died doing what he loved.
Getting shot.
AMEN!
Raped or burned alive while locked in a cage. Can't we just do both?
"One of the frightening terrorist villains told the FBI informant that, beyond having no money, he had encountered a significant problem in following through on the FBI's plot: his mom had taken away his passport."
*facepalm*
"But MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!"
*stamps feet*
"It better not be those little Korean girls again!"
This perfectly exemplifies the evil that is government. The feds should put this guy's picture on a billboard and say to throw American people: "this retard is who you are so afraid of. Sleep soundly at night, the enemy is the 3 Stooges. We will be alright." Instead they over hype these morons, keeping people terrified for themselves and their children, all so the government can expand its power. Fuck them.
Seems to me there's a more pressing issue if they intend to blow something up here. If these guys just want to go on a terrorist vacation then let them go.
One guy won't be able to go, unless his mom gives back his passport.
His mom.
I'm sure we could spend even more on the justice system and get worse results, but at this point it would take a truly herculean effort.
Really, you can be a fucking idiot and be a terrorist threat. i don't know if there is any real intention here, but it's sort of silly to just dismiss it because of a silly anecdote.
RTFA - the FBI is creating these "terror plots" out of thin air.
You got a problem with the Feds setting up mentally Ill people? It's like the FBI putting a hidden speaker in the dog house next to Son of Sam blaring, "Kill! Kill!".
The logic is that if the FBI can convince them to participate in terror, then so could a terrorist organization... with the difference being that the terrorist org would also let them follow through.
Lets see... I think there's a term for that...
Oh, yeah: "Entrapment"!
WTH is a firth anniversary?
First AND fifth.
Firth of Fourth
It was the anniversary of Colin Firth coming out against al Qaeda.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
We create them here so we don't have to fight them over there.
I'm really liking this Greenwald fellow. I just saw CitzenFour.
Excellent, excellent documentary. Surprised it won the Oscar.
Greenwald is an idiot savant whose intelligence on some civil liberties issues is outweighed by his retardedness on every other issue. His response to the Hebdo attacks was especially derpy.
Cyto is a fucking coward willing to let everyone else fight his presumed battles.
I want to talk about Citizenfour, because its style was questionable to me. Now that it's on HBO, more people should be seeing it and can weigh in.
Let's all talk about it in a weekend article! Perhaps the Richman one.
On the firth anniversary of 9/11 I asked "Where's the Terror?" and revisited the strange lack of much demonstrated terror threat against our quite porous country allegedly facing a relentless and unstoppable worldwide gang of suicidal maniacs
Wait...I thought The Blowback (TM) was coming to kill us all, just like catastrophic global warming?
Cytotoxic|2.26.15 @ 11:28PM|#
"Wait...I thought The Blowback (TM) was coming to kill us all, just like catastrophic global warming?"
And an ignoramus besides.
I don't know why we want to stop them from going to Syria. Just let them leave, and don't let them come back.
There should be some sort of instant registry for people that want to join the Islamic State. "Here's you one-way ticket to Syria, now sign here saying that you renounce your US citizenship. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!"
HAHA! That's so Funny!
...Until you remember all the thousands of helpless people that twats like this have butchered or enslaved.
Doesn't ISIS require all males to be homosexual?