Police Abuse

So Many Problems at the Baltimore Police Department

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Anthony Batts
Baltimore mayor's office

The Baltimore city council held a hearing with the police commissioner, Anthony Batts, and several other high-ranking officials. Council members probed how police officers actually made stops and police brass insisted they expected constitutional policing. The police commanders also said they wanted more cops to handcuff people while stopping them, for safety. Asked about the same people being stopped multiple times by cops, one deputy commissioner called it a "delicate situation," saying he and the other commissioners didn't want cops "to terrorize the citizens."

The meeting came after a Baltimore Sun investigation into the number of lawsuits against police claiming excessive force. Residents also complained about a 30 day rule cops use to keep the property of people they put in jail. Property taken by cops has to be claimed within 30 days or it's forfeited, even if the property owner is being kept in jail or otherwise away from hi things for longer than that. Duane Davis, who was arrested for putting a toilet in front of the local courthouse and regularly films cops, said he's had his cameras taken away that way.

One council member, Warren Branch, relayed in one instance seeing cops enter a man's home and search his refrigerator after detained him, and in another a cop poking a handcuffed man later released. The police brass there said they'd never heard of it. At the time, Branch said he reported both incidents to commanders, including one lieutenant colonel, Dan Lioi, was promoted with two other commanders in 2013 to get the murder rate down, but, as the Baltimore City Paper reports:

Since then, two of the three have left the department and have been charged with crimes. Lioi currently faces assault charges in Harford County related to a dispute with his wife. When Harford County deputies seized five guns from Lioi's residence, they found that one had previously been held by Baltimore City police as evidence. There has been no public explanation of how the gun got to Lioi's house or how the Baltimore Police evidence control section lost it. The incident is allegedly under investigation. 

Last week [Clifton] McWhite was charged with theft because he allegedly claimed academic credentials he had not earned, which got him a pay bump. He had resigned abruptly in April after 19 years on the job. His lawyer told the Sun that he is a victim, as he did not realize his credentials came from a diploma mill.

The Department of Justice says it will investigate the alleged pattern of excessive force used by the Baltimore Police Department, but residents hope other issues are addressed to. Talking about his experiences having his property seized, Davis told the city council: "The Justice Department is coming now and you'll have to turn the records over to the Justice Department." We'll see.

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  1. Sheeeeeeeeeit!

    1. Yeah, The Wire didn’t even nearly show the corruption of the police enough. But the fact that it showed at least some was something, I guess.

      1. The corruption was just David Simon’s way of saying more bureaucracy would cure the city’s ills.

        1. Someone should dig up those threads from when Nick interviewed him.

          1. I tell people that The Wire was a documentary, not a crime drama.

        2. I don’t give a shit what David Simon’s intentions were with that show and I won’t let him ruin it for me.

          1. I’m with you, I watched the show when I was 22, so I can’t deny how it helped shape my political views.

            Then my mind exploded when I learned Simon was a statist fuck.

          2. David Simon is to libertarians what Shakespeare is to english literature teachers.

  2. Proofread plz.

  3. Those damned Tea Partiers have made the Baltimore PD oppressive and unaccountable!

  4. and in another a cop poking a handcuffed man later released

    All true libertarians are opposed to unconstitutional police poking.

    1. Well, poking can cause pregnancy.

      That’s just what we need–more fuck-trophies with no daddies.

    2. Porking?

    3. Well isn’t that where the term pokey came from? As in “they hauled the criminal off to the pokey”.

      1. That’s what it’s all about!

        1. That’s a pretty hokey joke.

          1. You better stop that kind of thing – this is your last chance to turn yourself around.

  5. Since then, two of the three have left the department and have been charged with crimes.

    I think I see the problem. The supervisors and officers on the street are both groups criminals. Just not all of them have gotten caught yet.

    1. Cops cannot be criminals, you see. Only when they leave can they be charged.

  6. The police commanders also said they wanted more cops to handcuff people while stopping them, for safety.

    Anyone not wearing irons is a potential threat to our Heroes in Blue.

    1. Be happy in your shackles.

  7. my friend’s ex-wife makes $88 every hour on the computer . She has been unemployed for 10 months but last month her payment was $12994 just working on the computer for a few hours. site here….

    ????? http://www.netjob70.com

    1. Never trust anyone’s ex-wife, girl. Never.

  8. …stressing again and again that police do not know that you, the driver they just stopped, are a solid citizen with no criminal past or intent.

    Just like the occupant of the stopped car doesn’t know if the armed person approaching them from behind is a rapist, an impersonator or an actual professional.

  9. Handcuff people while stopping them?

    How is that not an arrest?

    1. It’s not an arrest until they say the words.

      1. “Say man and wife!”

  10. Hahahahah! Baltimore hired Anthony Batts? He was Chief of Police here, and a long time officer. He is a terrible administrator. And an even more terrible person. This will end badly.

    1. In Baltimore it never ends any other way.

      1. Yep. That’s what I’m talking about.

        1. Looks like your current chief is going to be sheriff.

    2. In a city where Democrats outnumber Republicans nine to one? If he can’t be chief of police there, he doesn’t deserve the office!

    3. I believe this is the part of his resume that appealed to them.

  11. So Many Problems at the Baltimore * Police Department

    FIFY

  12. At the time, Branch said he reported both incidents to commanders, including one lieutenant colonel, Dan Lioi, was promoted with two other commanders in 2013 to get the murder rate down, but, as the Baltimore City Paper reports:

    WHAT IS THIS LANGUAGE

    1. The wheels are coming off of the reason wagon today.

      1. IN SOVIET REASON, WAGON FALLS OFF YOU!

      2. I guess they don’t have an edit button either.

  13. “The police commanders also said they wanted more cops to handcuff people while stopping them, for safety.”

    I doubt it really works that way.

    Unnecessarily handcuffing people tends to piss them off–for a really long time.

    Regularly handcuffing a lot of people unnecessarily is likely to result in a lot of really pissed off people.

    That can’t be good for officer safety in the long run. It probably won’t make people less likely to resist arrest either.

    1. Only a teabagger would suggest the handcuffings were unnecessary!

      1. All kidding aside, isn’t this guy actually advocating unnecessary handcuffing?

        Just handcuff everybody, whether they need it or not, for safety, like, for reals?!

        Maybe people gloss over this stuff because…I dunno, it’s so ridiculous, people don’t really grok what he’s saying?

        Just fuckin’ handcuff the lot of ’em, for safety, and, you know, we’ll play it by ear from there?

        1. They don’t care if people like or respect them. They care only for their power to do violence on anyone who doesn’t obey them. That’s it. They don’t care about crime, they don’t care about public safety, they don’t care about public opinion. None of that matters. Only their power to do violence matters. Nothing else.

          1. I used to work for this big multinational. They had some problems with some racist managers and the lawsuits they provoked out of the Jacksonville office–I know, Jacksonville! Hard to believe, right?

            So, anyway, they had a company wide diversity seminar that kicked off with a big teleconferencing show out of our LA office–’cause we looked like the fucking Rainbow Coalition on camera. So the consultant opens up by telling us (and everyone in the company) that they’re ready to answer any questions about diversity.

            This one lady stands up and asks the COO why there weren’t any women in senior management. The diversity coordinator tried to stop him from answering, but he insisted… He explained that the reason there weren’t any women in senior management was because women are too moody and emotional to handle that kind of responsibility, and then he sat down all self-satisfied. The coordinator looked like she’d been shot.

            There were bunches of new sex discrimination lawsuits–and the dude was fired almost immediately. How do you say something like that to thousands of women that work for you at a diversity workshop?!

            I don’t know. But that makes more sense to me than the police department brass saying they plan to handcuff more people unnecessarily–at a community meeting on what to do about the police’s excessive use of force?!

            If they aren’t being purposely evil, they’re so obliviously obtuse, they might as well be evil.

            1. Oh, they’re evil alright. Just look at the difference in how they respond to some Joe being murdered and an attack on one of their own.

              A member of the public is killed? OK, first was he a drug user? He was? OK then. He deserved it. Not a drug user? OK, we’ll fill out some paperwork and then maybe do some investigating once we’re done rounding up those druggies and stealing their stuff.

              One of their own is killed? SHUT DOWN THE CITY UNTIL WE FIND AND KILL THE FUCKER!

              They truly don’t give a shit about anything but their own power. That’s evil.

            2. He explained that the reason there weren’t any women in senior management was because women are too moody and emotional to handle that kind of responsibility, and then he sat down all self-satisfied.

              That is fucking hilarious. I would have been ROTFLMAO.

              1. People did start laughing!

                He gave the diversity coordinator this look like, “See, and you thought I was going to say something stupid!”

                He just had no clue. It never occurred to him that…

                He probably still doesn’t get it.

                1. the company I worked for years ago was sued twice because two of the execs couldn’t keep their hands off their admins. So as part of the settlements (I assume) all employees had to gather in the auditorium and listen to a lawyer yack about sexual harassment. One guy gets up and asks “If an exec crashes his company car will we all have to pay for it?” The lawyer says “Of course not.” The guy says “Then why the hell do we all have to sit and listen to this bullshit?!”

                  1. the company I worked for years ago was sued twice because two of the execs couldn’t keep their hands off their admins.

                    One of my previous employers had a manager like that. We didn’t get sued, but when we had enough on him to take action, some of the nimrods wanted to give him a severance package to make him go away.

                    I told them that paying off a known sexual harasser was a pretty good way to perpetuate the “hostile work environment”, on account of you get more of what you reward. If they wanted less of this, they should just send security to his office to pack up his boxes, and make sure everybody knows why.

                    They decided to just give him the opportunity to resign. He took it, probably because somebody tipped him off that Plan B was to just give him to me.

            3. The diversity coordinator tried to stop him from answering, but he insisted… He explained…and then he sat down all self-satisfied.

              Even better than Michael Scott.

  14. One would think it would not only be in the cops’ best interests for society if they cleaned up their own house, but it would be in their own interests. I mean, fuck, arming people to mete out violence for the state is really questionable if those people can’t even make good decisions for themselves.
    Which makes me think that they’re evil fucks.

    1. This is why we get so many stories about ISIS and how chicken-shit the Iraqi police forces were, folding so easily.

  15. Cherry, the union president, said it would be unfair to discipline officers if they were cleared in internal investigations. He stressed that nobody can predict how a jury will decide cases.

    “The [officers] who get the most complaints are the ones who are doing their work,” he said. “These may be some of the best officers.”

    That’s the mentality of a police union. The officers who get the MOST complaints are obviously the best. Even if I had brain damage like that guy seems to, I’m not sure how that could make sense.

    Why the fuck do we allow police unions to exist again?

    1. Who is this “we” you speak of? I wasn’t aware that “we” had a choice.

      1. Fine, Mr. Pedant. I’ll rephrase:

        “Why does society allow police unions to exist again?”

        1. What choice does society have? The most we can do choose from a multiple choice list of power hungry fuckers and hope that they actually do something other than consolidate and increase their own personal power. Pandering to unions consolidates and increases their power, so that’s what they’re going to do.

          Society has no say in the matter. Remember that society, the people, is everyone but you. Or me. Society is everyone else. So when you say something about the unions, the response will be that society is OK with it. Except that society has no voice. Only individuals do. This idea of society or the people is no different than the divine right of kings. Officials claim to be serving the will of the people, but they are the ones who say what the will of the people is. Not the people. Since the people is everyone except any individual persons, your opinion doesn’t matter. No one’s does. Because individuals aren’t the people. The people is everyone else.

          We live in a feudal system. Only the costumes have changed.

  16. The city’s settlement agreements contain a clause that prohibits injured residents from making any public statement ? or talking to the news media ? about the incidents.

    How are these types of clauses even enforceable?

    1. It’s the standard ‘FYTW’ clause.

    2. Settlement agreements are like getting a summary judgement.

      It’s just like a judge ruled against you.

      There isn’t even a trial in most of those cases. If one party doesn’t abide by the settlement agreement, it would be like if you didn’t pay a court judgment against you.

      I suspect the city might be able to come back after you for whatever they paid you–and they wouldn’t need to go to trial to get that money back. They would just have to show the judge that you had violated the terms of the settlement agreement, and the judge could seize your assets or whatever needed to be done.

      If you’re ever in a contract dispute with a litigious son of a bitch that thinks you don’t have the wherewithal or the time to really pursue him in court–so he tells you if you don’t like getting screwed you can just sue him?

      Don’t accept any kind of agreement that isn’t a settlement agreement and blessed by a judge. Otherwise, you’ll just end up in court again with a new round of contract negotiations. Once you enter into a settlement agreement, there aren’t any more negotiations on the terms of the contract. It’s just between you and the judge at that point–and the judge can do all kinds of things. I believe including contempt.

  17. so he tells you if you don’t like getting screwed you can just sue him?

    Actual conversation I had a few years ago

    Him: “You don’t have a case. Go ahead and sue me if you want.”

    Me: “OK”

    Six months later he was bankrupt, divorced, and living in a different state.

  18. They hired Tony Batts?
    Good luck on that.

  19. Ah, charm city. Living near that shit hole sucks. And the cops are definitely up to no good- I hear news stories about them pepper spraying kids in schools and shooing dogs and beating people up EVERY DAY on the radio on my drive in to work. Its crazy

  20. Voters had a clear choice between initiation of force or not, and only 1.4% voted libertarian. Baltimore clearly got the government most of it deserves, with no shortage of collectivism and initiation of force–so why all the yelping?

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