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Citizens Group Emails VA Governor Demanding Independent Review of Police Shootings; Local Rescue Chaplain Calls Them Marxists

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Seventeen year old Christian Sierra was fatally shot by police in Purceville, Virginia, after the teen allegedly lunged at cops with a knife. Police were responding to a call asking for help with the suicidal teen.

Authorities are expected to rule on whether the shooting was justified this moon. "We're shooting for the end of next week if we can coordinate with Virginia State Police and get an opportunity to reach out to the family," said the city's attorney, Jim Plowman, according to the Loudoun Times, which also reports that an anonymous citizen's group called "Your Citizens of Loudoun County" sent several emails to Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) calling for independent investigations of police shootings and mandatory crisis training for cops.

The emails do not appear to be online—a Google search for "Your Citizens of Loudoun County" brings up only the Times story—but it did yield a response from Purceville's volunteer rescue squad chaplain, Tim Simmons, who called the emails Marxist. The Times reports:

In a response to the group and the Rev. Dr. Jack Stagman, president of the nonprofit America Restored, [Simmons] called the correspondence to the governor "the same kind of agitprop that stoked the fires of rioting and looting, mob violence and the tearing of the social fabric in Ferguson so recently."

"I'm astonished you [Stagman] would associate yourself, and the people who stand with you in local Christian leadership, with this kind of Marxist propaganda waged against our local law enforcement and civil structures," Simmons said in the email, forwarded to the Times-Mirror earlier this week. 

Sierra's family says the officers who shot Christian did not have crisis intervention training. Loudoun County Sheriff Mike Chapman says the training program is voluntary, and that some cops consider it a waste of time. While the sheriff says the training is costly, he argues it also saves taxpayer money by reducing the necessity of medical interventions and associated costs.

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  1. We’re shooting for the end of next week

    Tone deaf much?

  2. Authorities are expected to rule on whether the shooting was justified this moon.

    Spoiler alert: It will be determined it was.

    1. This Moon?

      We, Tribe of Reason, We See White Man With Fire Sticks, Think He Use Them Without Cause. We Need Pow Wow To Consult Great Spirit. Also, Internal Affairs.

      1. I lol’d at that one.

  3. The training is a waste of time when you have no skin in the game.

  4. Cop loveers like people like Tim Simmons are so pathetic. Also, people who use the phrase “tearing the social fabric”.

  5. Police were responding to a call asking for help with the suicidal teen

    “Oh, shit, we thought you meant help completing a suicide. Our bad. Sorry. Really. Sorry. You should really only call on us when you need someone or something smashed, killed or burned.”
    VA State Police

    1. Well, suicide by cop is a thing.

    2. The kid wasn’t shot by the State Police, he was shot by the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office.

      1. Correction, Purcellville PD

  6. Loudoun County Sheriff Mike Chapman says the training program is voluntary, and that some cops consider it a waste of time.

    Well of course it’s a waste of time. Cops are there to escalate the situation, not resolve things peacefully. I mean, what’s the point of strutting around with a club and a gun if you’re not going to use them at every available opportunity?

  7. “I’m astonished you [Stagman] would associate yourself, and the people who stand with you in local Christian leadership, with this kind of Marxist propaganda waged against our local law enforcement and civil structures”

    Well, then, maybe the cops shouldn’t have executed a Christian.

  8. Local Rescue Chaplain Calls Them Marxists

    this kind of Marxist propaganda waged against our local law enforcement and civil structures

    Maybe when your career is based on invisible sky gods who you think speak to you, you don’t really know what Marxism is?

    1. Yeah, that dude lives in layers of confusion well beyond any help.

  9. I’m sure the good chaplain would be happy to point out to me where in the New Testament the Lord directs us to shoot our fellow man full of holes.

    1. It’s in the Book of FYTW, but you have to have a bible that comes with really nonstandard apocrypha.

    2. It’s in Revolations. Just requires the proper methaphor translation. ‘Cause it’s all a metaphor. Except when it’s literal. I’m sure he’ ll be happy to explain it to you. Contribution optional of course.

      1. Just for your own amusment ask him how 1+1+1=1.

  10. Sierra’s family says the officers who shot Christian did not have crisis intervention training.

    How about “Don’t just shoot everybody who frightens you” training?

  11. I live in Loudoun County near Purcellville, which is one of the richest counties in the nation. The sheriff’s department here is not exactly ‘out of control’, but comes close sometimes. But this shooting didn’t involve the Sheriff’s department. It was done by a Purcellville Police person

    The Loudoun County Sheriff’s department had there own questionable shooting last May:
    ‘A Loudoun County sheriff’s deputy shot and killed a woman who came at him with a knife at a busy Costco in Sterling on Wednesday afternoon, authorities said, causing confused and frightened shoppers and employees to duck behind cash registers and rush out of the store.
    Two deputies went to the store to check a report of a disorderly person and used a Taser to try to subdue the woman, Loudoun Sheriff Michael Chapman said. But the woman kept advancing, so one of the deputies fired at her and killed her, the sheriff said. The second deputy was wounded, possibly when a bullet ricocheted and hit his leg. He is expected to recover.’ [Google for more…]

    For the record, I’ve never met or even heard of Tim Simmons, but if I were as religious as he purports to be, I would pray for him.

  12. Tim Simmons? Who? A ‘local rescue chaplain'(whatever that is) said something? So? Does it affect anything? No? Then what’s the point of this story?

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