Tonight on The Independents: Ferguson, Iraq, the Right to Try Drugs, the 'Greatest Threat' to Press Freedom, Plus Andrea Tantaros and Sexy Aftershow

Tonight's live episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, with re-airs three hours later) will spend multiple segments talking about the latest developments in Ferguson, and the myriad policy questions that the Michael Brown shooting and subsequent police protests continue to raise.

Kicking off the show are Party Panelists Jimmy Failla (cabby-turned-comedian) and Kevin Williamson (National Review libertarian-leaner, author of The End Is Near and It's Going to Be Awesome), who will talk about President Barack Obama's comments and decision to dispatch Attorney General Eric Holder today, bipartisan efforts to demilitarize police, and the ongoing political divisions about the case on both right and left. Later in the show, the duo will discuss efforts to free up experimental drug tests for imminently life-threatening diseases, and perhaps also the bizarre legal troubles of Texas Gov. Rick Perry. How much should the goings-on in Ferguson be seen through the prism of race? Fox News contributor Santita Jackson will be on, and I'm guessing she'll have a different take on the subject than Kmele Foster.

The other main topic of the president's mini-press conference today was our latest war-like activities in Iraq, which Daily Beast national security reporter Eli Lake will come on to discuss. Andrea Tantaros, co-host of the Fox News shows Outnumbered and The Five, will talk about what gets her fired up in the news cycle. And I'll riff a bit about persecuted New York Times reporter James Risen calling Obama "the greatest enemy to press freedom in a generation."

The online-only aftershow begins at foxbusiness.com/independents just after 10. Follow The Independents on Facebook at facebook.com/IndependentsFBN, follow on Twitter @independentsFBN, and click on this page for more video of past segments.

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[Rufus J. Firefly]

Hello?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Is it Kmele you're looking for?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

K-Mell?

[GILMORE]

Somewhere a blind girl is sculpting Rufus' face

[PapayaSF]

His name always makes me think of this.

[Daily Beatings]

These are not the Kmele you are looking for.

[C. Anacreon]

KMEL is gonna make me rich!

[Almanian!]

You gettin' my Lionel all Richie, Fist.
+1

[Heroic Mulatto]

A clay Kmele head must be a prop on the show NOW!

[Episiarch]

They should sell Kmele bobbleheads.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

And I'll riff a bit about persecuted New York Times reporter James Risen calling Obama "the greatest enemy to press freedom in a generation."

And Hillary Clinton would indisputably be worse considering that leaked State Department memos caused all sorts of hell for her.

I totally expect the mainstream media moderators at future debates to call her out on this, right? Right?

[Daily Beatings]

No, because ovaries.

[PapayaSF]

I hope the GOP raises a stink in 2016 and insists on picking half the "moderators." Hopefully they won't all be Democratic operatives next time.

[pan fried wylie]

prism of race

Extra-racist, implying that some races travel through a transparent medium slower than others. I suppose when Asians refract, they don't use their turn signal?

[Episiarch]

We're going to need a diffraction grating to find out.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I'm forced tonight to use my android to access the Internet. How do people communicate using telephones? It's unnatural.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

New Taylor Swift music video features excessive amounts of twerking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM

[Cytotoxic]

Any amount of twerking greater than zero is excessive.

[Episiarch]

Watching that without the audio is one of the most confusing things I've ever seen. Try it.

[Heroic Mulatto]

It's the only way I could watch the video.

[Episiarch]

I mean I don't expect music videos to make much sense but this is ridiculous.

[Heroic Mulatto]

True. Only a few music videos can approach greatness.

[Karl Hungus]

True. Only a few music videos can approach greatness.

Wow. That may have been the most moving and inspiring music video I've ever seen. The word "visionary" comes to mind.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

That's your 1 IceJJFish link for the day.

[Entropy Void]

Please, no more.

[Voros McCracken]

As I clicked that I thought "the chance of this not being IceJJFish = 0.2%"

[Bo Cara Esq.]

SoCon American Family Association's Bryan Fisher: Ferguson Incident Shows Dangers of Pot

"On his radio program today, Fischer sought to bolster this narrative by citing a few new bits of recently released information, such as the report that Brown was shot six times in his front and had marijuana in his system, claiming that this proves that Brown was 'tanked up' on pot, which made him go berserk and attack the police officer.

'We know now he did have marijuana in his system,' Fischer explained, 'and we've had stories, remember, we've had stories from Colorado, people going berserk on marijuana and killing people, hyped up on marijuana. So it's more dangerous than people think'"

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/.....Dthrn.dpuf

[Marshall Gill]

SoCon American Family Association's

God's work here, Bo. God's work. If you hadn't told me this organization was SOCON I wouldn't have been able to tell from the blurb you provided or the quote or the article itself. I was assuming that it was a gay organic commune.

[Almanian!]

Maybe he should change his name to James Ricin and they'll keep their hands off him.

Just an idea.

[Headless Body of Agnew]

No. they would hide him behind and electrical outlet.

[Headless Body of Agnew]

An electrical outlet.

[Cytotoxic]

I'd like to thank Mark Steyn for pointing out the obvious question re Ferguson: how can Ferguson PD be able to afford so many military goodies but not a dashboard cam?

[Bo Cara Esq.]

That was an excellent Steyn column.

[Almanian!]

Steyn's pretty much the shit, but that was a top-grade column for him.

[Whahappan?]

You probably already know this, but just in case (and for others) Ferguson already has dashcams, they've just declined to use them.

[Bo Cara Esq.]

SoCon: Beating Liberalism Through Being Fruitful

"The reason liberals will inevitably lose is because they are on the side that wants the right to murder babies before they are even born. The homosexuals have chosen a side in which it is impossible for them to procreate. They cannot have children. This is why, for many, they petition to not only redefine marriage, which would seek to legitimize them as a family, but also adopt children. In other words, the liberals have built into their worldview self-limitization...

If Christians simply took the command of God serious, in just a couple of generations there would be a mass expansion of Christianity and the gospel of Jesus Christ. The demographics of our society would undergo a significant shift."

http://barbwire.com/2014/08/18.....So9pPfv.99

[Notorious G.K.C.]

You fail to note the full context. The SoCon author was simply urging his compatriots not to give up on love:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0YC3RpvE3M

[BigT]

Mormons are all about it.

[Headless Body of Agnew]

Barbwire?

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Post-Apocalyptic remake of "Casablanca" set in a strip club.

Now that is what I call an elevator pitch.

[Daily Beatings]

I call plagiarism, that was the entire premise of Idiocracy. Of course president Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho couldn't do any worse than our current dear leader.

[Headless Body of Agnew]

I am Not Sure about that.

[ant1sthenes]

Yes, but we're talking about progs not breeding, so it's more the opposite of Idiocracy. Libertariocracy, maybe. I'm doing my part for freedom genes.

[Derpetologist]

Paging Sugarfree- Sugarfree, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

I'm sending my therapy bills to you.

[Marshall Gill]

He said "paging Sugarfree" and you clicked on the link anyway? If it had killed you I don't think I would have any sympathy. WTF were you thinking?

[All-Seeing Monocle]

You magnificent bastard.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Nixon sending in troops to quell civic unrest? Sounds like the 1960s: INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIkoSPqjaU4

[Daily Beatings]

... form of squawking bird.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Prediction: Sleeves

[GILMORE]

oooh. bold

I call powersuit on matt (white shirt, red tie)

[Fist of Etiquette]

He's gone to that well a little too often.

[GILMORE]

If The Independents show the clip of Chris Christie dancing I will be very upset

Someone needs to draw the line somewhere. And that's a fucking line.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Still, it had a Yeltsin like quality to it that was intriguing.

[Antilles]

Probe Andrea Tantaros? Hmmm...I wish...

[BigT]

Holder in Ferguson. National Guard: Fire!!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Look, do you want the war on drugs fiercely fought or not?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

How many times has Kennedy worn that IZOD shirt? Does she keep a tiny apartment in some seedy part of Manhattan to store clothes and pep pills?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Fuck this shit. The American Ninja Warrior finals are on.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Sharpton is 'well-intention?'

[BigT]

Sharpton loves the attention. He's trying to stay relevant. Fail.

[Derpetologist]

Ah, Al Sharpton- America's silver-tongued Cicero:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggHWRpsMEmk

[Vulgar Madman]

You mean he's going to be beheaded?

[Fist of Etiquette]

This guy created The Dawson's Creek ?

[Derpetologist]

This show is like a verbal version of Hungry, Hungry Hippos.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"Fox News contributor Santita Jackson will be on, and I'm guessing she'll have a different take on the subject than Kmele Foster."

Wait, you mean that because they're black, their disagreements are especially interesting? Why not have a bunch of white guys in 10-gallon hats pressure them to fight each other and place bets on the outcome?

[Fluffy]

That show idea is gold. PURE GOLD, JERRY!

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Freedom pens?

[Rev-Match]

That is 'Totalitarian Prick' for Free Speech Zone

[John]

A Day in the Life Could be the theme song of the Obama Presidency.

http://twitchy.com/2014/08/18/.....-ferguson/

I read the news today Oh Boy.

[Fist of Etiquette]

If the unions had allowed those body cameras to be used they might be in a much better situation right now in Ferguson.

[PapayaSF]

Thank you for mentioning that. It probably was the unions, wasn't it? This is the perfect angle for libertarians and for the more libertarian GOPers: "We ask that the policeman's union reverse its stand against cameras." Emphasize that it's union opposition that "might have prevented this tragedy," or at least would settle the issue. And talk about how cameras help everyone involved, including protecting police against false charges.

In other words, focus the issue on a public employee union, not the cops (or abstract issues like civil rights). This pushes the issue in the right direction, enlists many pro-cop people, and forces the left to choose between supporting a union or blacks and activists.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Paddy wagon? Begorrah, I'll be protesting that racist language!

[Rev-Match]

...There is no first amendment right...

Truer and truer every day.

[Derpetologist]

Isn't it fascinating that the NSA has records of all the emails and phone calls, yet many police departments lack cameras?

[mr lizard]

Nope; there are incentives for both of the existing conditions

[Fist of Etiquette]

Jackie Treehorn bumper?

[GILMORE]

Eli Lake = regularly one of the best-dressed guys to appear on this show

look at that dude

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Journos at Daily Beast wear suits?

Who knew?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Kmele needs to adjust his jacket.

[Fist of Etiquette]

DAMN YOU SNOWDEN.

[Fist of Etiquette]

It's whatever reason shuts critics up.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Why is Kennedy asking for someone to come back soon? Shouldn't she be doing the inviting?

Just saying.

[PapayaSF]

I think it's a talk show pleasantry that's equivalent to "let's have lunch sometime," but for the benefit of the audience.

[Fist of Etiquette]

That hug makes me feel unsafe.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Just like they predicted: Foster v. Jackson!

[Rev-Match]

We have an opportunity to take a look at government overreach

RACIST! TEATHUGLICAN! UNCLE TOM!

[Notorious G.K.C.]

She recognizes him without seeing him? Full metaphor alert!

[GILMORE]

The Independents Attire Review, 18 August 2014

Here Before the Dinosaurs-Edition

- Kennedy: While the "Miami Vice" (teal izod, magenta lipstick) is our #1 Kennedy-Barbie Dress, The "Boca Raton" (seen here) is pretty damn close. K adds a underlying insidiousness to the Izod, very much like how Matt makes the '1959 Young Republican'-look inherently counter-cultural. We think its like, totally hot.

- Matt: We are one Red Tie short of Power-Suit Matt, but its close enough that we don't care. The New Navy Suit, when matched with a white shirt and (in tonights case) a Navy/White tie that harmonizes with *both*... delivers the style-punch that is the raison d'?tre of a well-cut suit. We'd be even more impressed if Eli Lake hadn't suddenly appeared in a slightly-lighter blue suit and tie and looked even *more* banging. Regardless: Mondays are very good for Matt lately.

- Kmele: While we normally can find no fault in anything Kmele ever does, what is otherwise a bomb-ass '50-Shades of Grey'-alluding ensemble gets a ding for the severe neck-gapping of the jacket collar. Normally this is a Suderman-level flaw - a consequence of either badly-fit jacket, or poor posture. Otherwise this is a snappy arrangement that we like as a #2 favorite to the 'shades of brown' that Kmele does w/the Khaki blazer.

Trifecta. The Indys bring it together like Mo' and Better.

Xie Xie

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Black faces in high places!

Justice not just for us!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Kmele Foster: I WANT WHITE COPS.

[Rev-Match]

Tomorrow's MSNBC headline?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Kareem was being responsible?

Please.

[Fist of Etiquette]

You drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.

[John]

You tell your old man to try that.

[BigT]

Alcindor was trying to be relevant. Not.

[GILMORE]

Racism
Sexism
Classism

If you can take any current event, and manage to spin it in a way such that you manage to talk ONLY about the above three things?

Congratulations! You've earned your liberal arts degree.

[PapayaSF]

You left out homophobia, you cis-normative hater!

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Don't trust the VA-give to the Wounded Warriors!

[John]

http://thestir.cafemom.com/lov.....e_porn_men

Woman get addicted to porn too!! We are doomed!!

[All-Seeing Monocle]

If by "porn" you mean facebook, pinterest, and Downton Abbey.

[John]

And Candy Crush Saga

[OneOut]

How can anyone be addicted to porn?

Doesn't that cause blisters ?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Give her a break. She's drowning in poverty.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Yeah. That was a spoiler.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Holy crap.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

These are simply alligators, we need to hear both sides.

[GILMORE]

Kmele thinks Hilary knows How to Be the Boss

[Fist of Etiquette]

Noooooooo. Do not want.

[GILMORE]

No, no no no

[Slammer]

Bouncing titties!

[Rev-Match]

They SHOULD end every episode of 'The Independents' with gratuitous video of girls in bikinis on trampolines.

[GILMORE]

Why.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Was kind of hoping Chris Christie would trigger a tsunami and destroy New York.

Ha, get it? Because he's fat! See? I made a funny.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Admiral Akbar sees through this NY business recruitment ad.

[Rev-Match]

IT'S A TRAP!

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Torch Lite, you're no Pocket Hose Ultra.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Testing experimental serums on humans is how superheroes and villains are created.

[Slammer]

Aren't humans primates?

[GILMORE]

Is bald guy wearing a fake leather blazer?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Let them die without false hope!

[Rev-Match]

Texas governor indicted for threatening to do something that governors have the legitimate authority to do.
Also, I see this as amounting to a 'thought crime', given that he is being indicted for the REASON he said he would veto something.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

The comedian is making some good points, but he's not funny, too real to be funny.

[Antilles]

God, Andrea Tantaros is so hot!

[PapayaSF]

She'd be improved with a new nose.

[Slammer]

Watermelon?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Don't use it until Kennedy gets out of hand.

[GILMORE]

code word

[GILMORE]

Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire

[GILMORE]

The intro screwups are actually far more interesting and entertaining than perfectly scripted and coreographed shows. Watching them fall apart as they went into commercial makes it seem 10X more appealing as a program.

[Rev-Match]

What gets me out of bed is the thought of coffee - A.T.

SOUL MATES.

[Rev-Match]

Uh, that was not supposed to be a response as much as an original post.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Kennedy and Tarantanos one-on-one. Let your imaginations take it from there...

[Notorious G.K.C.]

MEOW!

[GILMORE]

That WAS the best intro ever on Fox

[All-Seeing Monocle]

I love to see two women giving each other great intro.

[GILMORE]

I'll work that tail off

[Rufus J. Firefly]

What gets you out of bed?

When I pee in bed and it's all wet making it uncomfortable.

[Derpetologist]

When my hunger overcomes my laziness.

[Rev-Match]

What gets you out of bed?

Bacon.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

We're always at cross roads.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

OK, stop making out with each other and get to the substance.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Wait, is there a topic for this segment?

[Notorious G.K.C.]

"Andrea Tantaros, co-host of the Fox News shows Outnumbered and The Five, will talk about what gets her fired up in the news cycle."

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Wait, it was *all* about her and Kennedy making out with each other!

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Answer: guys doing laundry.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

So she's here to talk about Hamas?

[Fist of Etiquette]

[Cough] Don't talk to Foster about Hamas. [Cough]

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Here we go. Kmele going after the Joooos for the bull shit measured response angle.

[GILMORE]

Kmele totally ruins Girl Talk

[Slammer]

Skunk at the picnic.

[GILMORE]

"OMG who is this guy!? we were like all agreeing than whoa?"

Andrea argues via tone of voice

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Dialog with Hamas?

Are you serious, Kmele?

[PapayaSF]

So he agrees with Fauxcahontas on that? Idiot.

[Fist of Etiquette]

If you wear the French maid outfit?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I really can't stand that stance.

[Derpetologist]

Let's end the show on something pleasant.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

I was expecting Hitlary's head to be photoshopped onto that.

[Derpetologist]

Is that what you want? Well, why didn't you say so?

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Thank you?

[GILMORE]

a celebration of self-expression

yep.

[Rev-Match]

I really should embrace my inner nerd and start going to comic con.

[Fist of Etiquette]

NOT ENOUGH TIME.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

James Risen better have large breasts.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

No James Risen?

[Fist of Etiquette]

They screwed the pooch on timing at the end. Should have pretaped.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Should have spent less time showing the Christie video.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

They're making out with each other again?

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Guys, you might as well just shut up and let them talk.

[Derpetologist]

Paging Sugarfree- Sugarfree, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Ah, the tasteful jokes begin!

[GILMORE]

Any woman who says she can't fake it is lying

[Bam!]

Or, it put it another way, faking it.

[BigT]

Vagazzled.

Goodnight.

[GILMORE]

I have mentioned the Times Square strip club buffet deal here before.

it IS a thing. Everybody does it sooner or later.

[GILMORE]

cut her off by a *word*

[Winston]

An NYT writer calling Obama "the greatest threat" to press freedom strikes me as rather equivalent to Bukharin complaining about his show trial.

[Winston]

Also with all the WWI articles how come there hasn't been a fawning article on Eugene Debs? I'm sure Sheldon Richman can write one.

[VG Zaytsev]

"Eugene V Debs Proto Libertarian"

[Sudden]

Roger Goodell is ruining the NFL. If I wanted to see games so high scoring that no individual scoring play mattered and fouls are called for the most prissy incidental contact possible, I'd start watching the NBA.

[Bam!]

Looks like SWAT is moving in again in Ferguson.

[Sudden]

I love how all the white folks have gas masks.

[Bam!]

I love how the one guy in the crowd with a bull horn is a white guy.

[Sudden]

If I lived anywhere in the StL metro area, I'd be at the protest wearing a Guy Fawkes mask and holding a sign that says "I BLAME TEH BOOOOOOOSH!!1!1!!"

[GILMORE]

It now looks like the "Event around the event around the news" has already way outrun the actual 'protests'.

i.e. its like 2 dozen 'protestors', and a few hundred rubberneckers, cops, and 'journalists' covering the interactions of rubberneckers and cops.

[Lyle]

12 witnesses have corroborated the evil cop's story.

[VG Zaytsev]

That's a lot of get out of jail free cards.

[Sudden]

My solution to the Ferguson riots is to have the NFL send a handful of these new and improved illegal contact obsessed referees to Ferguson to throw flags anytime a cop or protester so much as glances someone incidentally.

[Bruce Majors Libertarian4Mayor]

Rumor is that West Virginia Libertarian for Senate candidate John Buckley is on tonight.