If Decency Won't Stop Cops From Shooting Dogs, Maybe Lawsuits Will, Suggests Justice Department
Three years ago, the Justice Department's Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) published a report on The Problem of Dog-Related Incidents and Encounters. The report noted that police encounter dogs on a daily basis, that more than half of Americans consider their pets family members, and that officers really should develop better familiarity with pooches and less-shooty responses when coming into contact with our furry friends.
That report has now been integrated into a larger portal, hosted at the University of Illinois' Institute of Government and Public Affairs. The portal on police and dog encounters includes instructional videos narrated by Terry Hillard, retired superintendent of the Chicago Police Department. The videos offer guidance on assessing canine body language, use of force considerations, and when police can expect to get their asses sued after plugging Fido.
That legal considerations video cautions, "On the streets you patrol, in the homes you enter, with the families you serve and protect, dogs are a part of the community fabric. And more and more, the community is watching and judging how police handle their encounters with dogs."
It then cuts to a news report about a six-figure cash award to a family whose dog was killed by police.
"As lawsuits are filed, and awards and damages mount, municipal legal staffs, police departments, and even officers themselves are forced to contront this issue."
An attorney then notes that individual police officers are personally on the hook for punitive damages.
The video even cautions against insisting that every dog shot is a pit bull (a point that comes up with regularity), since DNA tests can now falsify such claims. "You have pitbull in your report, but it's everything but a pitbull. So, what else could you have made a mistake about?"
Note that COPS isn't just pushing back against puppycide incidents. Militarized policing overall is on its radar. A December 2013 article by senior policy analyst Karl Bickel frets:
Police chiefs and sheriffs may want to ask themselves—if after hiring officers in the spirit of adventure, who have been exposed to action oriented police dramas since their youth, and sending them to an academy patterned after a military boot camp, then dressing them in black battle dress uniforms and turning them loose in a subculture steeped in an "us versus them" outlook toward those they serve and protect, while prosecuting the war on crime, war on drugs, and now a war on terrorism—is there any realistic hope of institutionalizing community policing as an operational philosophy?
Excellent question. Let's see if we can get police to back off on the dog-shooting. Then maybe we can get police departments to stand down on the armored vehicles and military tactics.
Emphasizing the personal legal and financial consequences of acting like a day on the job is a first-person-shooter video game may be an effective tactic.
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Emphasizing the personal legal and financial consequences of acting like a day on the job is a first-person-shooter video game may be an effective tactic.
You're going to take away all their fun, Tuccille.
I agree! Many videos show that they enjoy it!
Cops don't kill dogs because of a lack of training. They kill dogs as a display of power.
"Look at that. I just killed a beloved member of your family. Now shut the fuck up and obey me or I'll do some more killing."
The incidents I have seen boil down to A: Lack of training on the officer's part or B: The dog was behaving in a violent manner and not under control by its owner.
It was one thing to shoot black people or people already in trouble with the cops. The sad fact is most of America really don't give a shit if the cops shoot someone who was running or generally being a pain in the ass. But cops are such arrogant retards they have actually managed to bounce a blank check by shooting dogs for fun. Say what you want about what this says about America's priorities or lack thereof, but people care about dogs. You are better off shooting a unarmed loud mouthed drunk teenager than you are shooting a dog. The dog shooting, more than anything else, is what is going to bite them in the ass, pardon the pun.
I have yet to see riots over cops killing dogs.
It is a difference in culture. White people love dogs. White people don't take to the streets, they take to the courts when pissed, because they have a sailing lesson at 4 so they can't be bothered with violence.
That and they understand the system and how to use it.
Huh?
I mean riots, not protest
Again, I say "Huh?"
Reason's own Jesse Jackson here to enlighten everyone on issues of phenotype.
This is an idiotic statement of a non thinking person. Sailing lessons at 4? what are you talking about?
Riots are not how things get done, unless they are really big riots. Things get done when the great mass of society collectively decides to do something. And that mass doesn't care when the cops shoot criminals or even when people in poor neighborhoods riot over it. But they do care about dogs.
Riots are always done poorly. You don't have people going into a DA's office screaming "I demand justice!" You see them breaking into KFC screaming "I demand fried chicken!"
Well, add to that the fact that it's their own neighborhoods the rioters wid up targeting.
"...wind up..."
Damned keyboard.
That's why I always thought it was comical during the 2001 riots in Cincinnati when Libs were boycotting the city. Whenever someone would tell me they were boycotting I'd say "well I'm actually trying to go Downtown more now. Those minority owned businesses need our support now more than ever!" and watch the look on their faces.
Yeah. An effective riot would burn the DA's house down. Instead, they just burn their own homes down.
Without a welfare state, natural selection would weed out those who disrespect property and propriety.
Anarchy Burger! Hold the government!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwuiHI0-z3c
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Oh, goody. Our local Klansman is here to shit up the thread.
A rhiiiiot is an ugly thing....und, it is yust about time zat vee had vun!
Or perhaps a roll in the hay?
You are better off shooting a unarmed loud mouthed drunk teenager than you are shooting a dog. The dog shooting, more than anything else, is what is going to bite them in the ass, pardon the pun.
I don't think that it's the dogs, per se, that is going to do them in, but the fact that the dog shootings are a little more close to home to the people who can a little more easily influence policy. Skip and Muffy could easily enough imagine their pooch on the firing line. Some "scary criminal", on the other hand, isn't someone they can relate to. Add to that, the fact that many of the police seem to be taking a more aggressive stance toward the rest of middle class society, and you have the recipe for eroded police support.
An attorney then notes that individual police officers are personally on the hook for punitive damages.
The minimum consequence that might possibly have an effect.
there is a part of this that is offensive. Dogs are now elevated above human beings? How about the notion of cops being professionals and not doing any shooting unless shot at? I'm not in favor of shooting dogs but, then, I don't support shooting poor folks, either. And just how often do cops really get into a shootout with anyone?
The plus side of shooting dogs is they rarely shoot back.
I think the difference is that dogs are seen as innocent. They don't know to respect authority or follow the commands of strangers. Some black guy got shot? Probably was a gang banger. Some homeless guy got beat? Probably was crazy. Some bitch got slapped? Probably was running her mouth.
Someone's pet got shot? The monsters!
But J.D.! What you don't understand is that they REALLY REALLY WANT to shoot dogs, and it's mean for you or I to tell them that they can't!
"Woof!"
Bam, Bam, Bam, ...... Bam!
"What the hell you do that for?"
"I thought he said, 'shoot'".
It then cuts to a news report about a six-figure cash award to a family whose dog was killed by police.
Unless that cash is coming directly out of their pockets, why would they care?
That is why you go for punitive damages. Insurance policies won't cover them (or only in very expense and rare occasions) and many states forbid coverage of them.
In clearer terms, the cop would have personal liability for a judgment against him. You go for the cop, not the department/taxpayers.
Is that what happened in the case referenced in the video? If so, that might wake the viewer up.
If the pure decency of government employees won't stop the shooting of dogs, then perhaps applying the law to them as it applies to non-cops will.
You go too far, sir.
I am literally considered an extremist by most everyone I know for simple positions like the 'universal applicability of law'.
The issue of canine DNA tests bogus. The companies the produce these tests do not include pit bull DNA in the data set. You could test every dog at Pit Pride Parade and not get a single positive, every dog in the world and not get a positive, simply not in the data set. Please google the Mars Wisdom Panel website to verify this information. The Wisdom Panel is the most used DNA test sold.
Funny, it detects American Staffordshire Terriers just fine. Or are you too stupid to know what breed a pit bull really is?
Lawsuits haven't been able to stop bad cop behavior up to this point. I see no reason why it will change behavior now.
Until cops are served meaningful disciplinary action for their misdeeds, this kind of behavior will continue. I don't see that happening until police unions are declared supporters of domestic terrorism and disbanded.
Teens are not the only ones that want to do a thrill kill! In some cases that is what they are doing.