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Bill Lets Underage Brewers Taste Wine, But They Have To Spit It Out

It may be gross, and it may be slight, but progress is progress.

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Underage California viticulture students: Your day of freedom is coming.

The state Assembly recently approved a bill that would allow brewery students at public universities to taste the fruits of their labors, even if they haven't yet turned 21.

The only catch? Students can't drink the wine. They are required to sample and spit, according to Campus Reform:

University professors will be tasked with monitoring underage students and handling any problems that could arise, Adrian Lopez, state governmental relations director at University of California—Davis (UC Davis) said.

"This bill is so students can taste the product they're making in order to develop their sensory skills early on and become the best winemakers and the best brewers," Lopez told Campus Reform in an interview.

…Last month, the bill passed on the assembly floor with 73 votes in favor and only two opposing. Lopez said he remains "cautiously optimistic" that the bill will continue to keep its momentum as it's slated to hit California's senate on June 24.

"We have a lot of limitations in place so folks understand it's not an underage consumption bill," Lopez said. "It's for a small amount of students in a major program."

Besides having to spit out anything they taste, students will be monitored by a professor (who must be over the age of 21) and must be enrolled in an accredited viticulture program at a public university.

It may be gross, and it may be slight, but progress is progress.

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  1. Shouldn’t underage brewers be tasting beer?

    1. It’s brewers and vintners.

      1. What about the oenology students? Who will think about them? Why are they always being left off the old lists?

    2. Beer, gruit, cider, wine, mead, sake, etc, etc, etc. They should taste it all 😉

      I’m not that hard over on the distinction between brewing and vintning.

  2. Let the “Spit or Swallow” jokes commence!

  3. Am I crazy for thinking that rather than carving out a narrow exception to the rule, it would be easier to just repeal the rule?

    1. Hahahahaa!!! That’s a good one.

    2. Repeal a rule?! You are crazy! You obviously want to see drunken three year olds fighting for your amusement! Eight year old alcoholics! Fifteen year olds with cirrhosis of the liver!

      Now excuse me, I’m going to go chant “For the Children, For the Children” a hundred times, lest your madness infest me.

      1. You obviously want to see drunken three year olds fighting for your amusement!

        That would be pretty awesome.

      2. I’m not sure how much different a drunken three year old would be from a regular three year old.

        1. It is easier to get a drunken 3 year to take a nap, but otherwise no discernible difference.

    3. Repeal a rule?! You are crazy! You obviously want to see drunken three year olds fighting for your amusement! Eight year old alcoholics! Fifteen year olds with cirrhosis of the liver!

      Now excuse me, I’m going to go chant “For the Children, For the Children” a hundred times, lest your madness infest me.

      1. Augh, the skwerls are drunk too!

  4. I was making mead (honey wine) in my college dorm room with nothing but honey water, lemon juice and yeast. My equipment was a 6-gallon glass acid bottle and a balloon with a pinhole stuck in it.

    1. College ain’t so bad. You can make sangree in the terlet. ‘course it’s rape or be raped.

      1. Of course.

        (sobs)

      2. College ain’t so bad.

        I rented a trailer one year that backed up to Sorority Row. Ended up teaching the Sigmas how to make vodka from potato peels and corn mash.

    2. You will be my regular pruno hookup once we get thrown into camps.

  5. Home winemaking thread!

    I’ve only ever gone from kits — they’re expensive, but when done right, taste very nice. I should try to get grapes this season.

    My attempts have been hit or miss. First one (Pinot Noir) was awesome. Second (Merlot) was not so awesome. I’ve got a couple of bottles of a Cabernet Sauvignon left that needed to age a little, but is now very nice.

    1. My MiL and FiL are really into home winemaking. Most of it is pretty good but when it’s bad it’s really bad.

    2. I will hijack this for a home brewing thread:

      Got an Allagash Curieux clone recipe lined up to brew in two weeks. Debating the type of oak and type of bourbon I wanna use for the bourbon barrel aging. Leaning towards American oak and Woodford Reserve.

      1. I kegged up two batches of beer (amber ale and brown ale) a week ago. Also bottled 18 gallons of a barrel-aged cyser (using a 3-gallon barrel, one batch after another).

        Started a sour brown ale (like an oud bruin when it’s done if I’m lucky) last Friday.

    3. I’m about to start making fruit wine once the strawberries/raspberries/blackberries around me are ready for picking. I can make a good beer but I’ve never made a wine before. Anyone know why wine takes so long? Do I actually need to age it for a year?

      1. Do I actually need to age it for a year?

        You don’t “need” to, but it will taste better if you do.

  6. Well, that is the proper method for wine tasting.

    1. Yep, nothing gross about it, it’s routine practice. Spitting out the wine lets you taste a heckuva lot more different wines without getting drunk.

      College students may think the purpose of winery tours is to get intoxicated for free, but wine snobs know better.

  7. Well we can’t have those young souls being corrupted by the demon liquor!

  8. “We have a lot of limitations in place so folks understand it’s not an underage consumption bill,”

    Yes, of course. Because 20-year-olds are children.

    The fucking insanity over “underage drinking” in this country is just fucking mystifying. Where the fuck did it come from, seeing as pretty much no other country is like this? Don’t say “Puritans”, because they let kids drink small beer. I just don’t get it.

    1. Well, the Puritans wouldn’t let you molest sheep, dabble in the dark arts, or be a Quaker. They had to leave people with *something* they could do for fun.

    2. I’ll say Puritans.

      Each eydrop of small beer is about 2 proof whereas each eyedrop full of wine is about 16 proof.

      Yes, they are so insane that they care more about the “proof” than the AMOUNT of alcohol consumed.

      Besides, the Puritans didn’t have the potable water that we do today. So they WANTED to be crazy about alcohol but they had to make a few concessions FOR HEALTH REASONS ONLY. (The same reason medicinal alcohol was OK in the 20’s.) As soon as they got better at producing potable water, small beer was a no-no.

    3. Yes, of course. Because 20-year-olds are children.

      You joke but that is quite literally so, according to government. Drinking laws, amnesty laws, and now MJ laws use that language. I recall reading Colorado’s MJ regulations and prohibitions, and like drinking laws, it specifically stated “minors under 21”. Not adults under 21 and minors under 18.

      The last holdout for vices/perceived vices is tobacco. But several states are in the process of raising that to 21 too.

      1. But 20 year olds aren’t minors in Colorado. The only minors in Colorado are people under 18, therefore there is no such thing as a 20-year old minor in Colorado.

        If the MJ law prohibits minors under 21 and not “adults under 21 and minors under 18” then someone could make a good challenge to the law. But the court system is corrupt as hell so it’s probably moot.

  9. Something about offering internships in the porn industry?

    And the skwerlz are brutal again.

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