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Don't Accept Jonah Hill's Apology! And Ignore His Offensive Comments Too!

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I've got a new column up at Time that discusses actor Jonah Hill's TMZ-covered breakdown and subsequent apology on The Tonight Show

Hill says he's always been in favor of equality for gays, so his "heart's broken" that he said what he said. He's also got a big movie coming out next week (22 Jump Street, a sequel to the very funny and very successful 21 Jump Street), which surely adds to his case of the sads, and helps to explain the urgency with which he's trying to create a teachable moment from his unseemly outburst.

Addressing not simply The Tonight Show's studio audience but all humanity, Hill counseled: "If someone says something that hurt you or angers you, use me as an example of what not to do. Don't respond with hatred or anger, because you are just adding more ugliness to the world."

If only he'd taken that advice before filming Get Him to the Greek.

I assume Hill's act of contrition is sincere, but who cares about his hard-won, PR-friendly insight into the human condition? Why should we take his apology any more seriously than we take his ugly outburst?

More here.

Spoiler alert and/or trigger warning: I quote the mesmerizing insight of Charles Barkley toward the end of the piece.

Here's TMZ's vid:

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  1. Ah, yummy crocodile tears shed in the name of PC and PR. Always a treat.

    And… I’ll let slide the ridiculous notion that “21 Jump Street” was “very funny”.

    1. I liked that it mocked itself for not having an original idea or plot.

  2. It’s only a slur if the photographer actually was homosexual. If not, or if he was even bi-curious, then it’s simply a way of showing hostility in a non-violent fashion. Or maybe not. I don’t really care either way. So, in conclusion, there’s no way I’m watching anything TMZ-related.

    1. Why do you have to be gay for it to be insulting to be called a faggot?

      Also – why does insulting people mean you have to apologize about it?

      How horrible would it have been if his ‘apology’ were instead=

      “Ok. So this photographer guy was being a *total douchebag*; consequently I told him to suck my dick; NOW TMZ is using this incident to make money by highlighting me being pissed off and blackmailing me into being contrite about it.

      This makes TMZ a bunch of shameless blood-sucking cocksuckers as well. Fuck them all, Hollywood is a goddamn sewer full of parasites. PEACE.”

      I’d actually go watch his next movie if he said that.

      1. “Also – why does insulting people mean you have to apologize about it?”

        Insulting entire groups of people?

        You don’t get out much, do you?

        1. The Irish are a bunch of Cunts!!

          In fact may as well throw in all the people of the British Isles.

          ALL CUNTS!!

          1. What I’m getting at it that most people consider it pretty ill-mannered to use these kinds of words. I mean, do you talk like that at work? I think if I talked like that a lot in class or at my job I would get some push back.

            1. I work in the construction business, not a day goes by I don’t hear that.

              1. OK, I’ll give you that (I’ve done some construction during summers). But there are a lot of places where that kind of talk is going to lead to ostracism.

                Look, if someone were to come here and use the N word a lot, I mean quite a lot and not in some hipster-ironic ways, I bet most people here would soon start to give that fellow a little social pushback. I’m not sure why f*ggot, which has a pretty sordid pedigree too, shouldn’t fall in there as well.

                1. because we’ve reached the tipping point on the issue and if you don’t draw a line in the sand on what words you can and can’t use because of the faggot cock-sucking pearl clutchers pretty soon every word is going to offend someone.

                  1. That’s silly. Realizing that gays have had it hard and that that word is pretty insulting to them and sordid is not going to make every word in the English language suspect. It’s just being decent to people.

                    1. Realizing that gays have had it hard

                      But isn’t that how they want it?

                      Jesse, can we get a ruling?

                    2. But isn’t that how they want it?

                      From Haf??r Bj?rnsson, quite likely.

                      From Maggie Gallagher, not so much.

                    3. gays have had it hard

                      We got over it. I hereby grant everyone leave to call each other faggot – I don’t care.

                    4. Personally, I burn faggots.

                      I’m not quite sure why calling someone “a bundle of sticks” is bad, though.

                  2. tolerance =/= acceptance, I can dig it…

            2. Eh, the Irish or Brits would probably buy Corning a pint half-litre. They are a bunch of fecking cunts and they know it.

            3. In more familiar settings blacks call each other the n-word and gays call each other faggots.

              My last name is Corning (ie most likely originating in Cornish lands) and people from the British Isles call each other cunts all the time.

              1. Corning, I’m going to bet you would not use the N word in a place with a lot of blacks (or any blacks) that you did not know. Likewise for f*ggot around gay persons you don’t know.

                That doesn’t make you less cool, edgy, or free, it makes you a person with manners.

                1. Yeah i never use the n-word or faggot…even as a kid i shied away from faggot.

                  I don’t say cunt very much either…but i do want to use it more and have it enter the American lexicon as it has among the British.

                  I mean in Britain grandmas use it to describe their grandchildren.

                  “Oh look at you whee cunts come and give your mama a kiss.”

                  Totally not out of place or offensive.

              2. Well you’re a right cunt aren’t you?

                1. Someone’s watched too much Trainspotting.

              3. See my link below 😉

            4. I’m not sure how insulting an individual with any word is tantamount to insulting an entire group of people.

              It is totally ill-mannered though.

          2. Irish cunts — Bo bait.

        2. No one has the right to not be offended.

          Everyone has the right to say stupid things.

          Someone who says stupid things need only apologise if they are actually contrite.

          1. Well, of course they have the right to, I’m just saying as a social matter that kind of thing is often frowned upon. That’s not novel or wrong (though it can be over the top at times for sure).

              1. Ok, here comes Old Man Winter to impart a mighty life lesson based on a fundamental misunderstanding again.

                1. Just stop being a PC pussy!

                  1. Can you not always see everything in the most simplistic yahoo way for once in your life?

                    I doubt you use the N word around blacks, so why use the F word around gays?

                    1. I don’t. But you are still a pussy.

                      Stop being offended. It’s that fucking simple.

                      If I had a dime for everytime I’ve been called a stupid Polak…

                      I embrace it. I laugh about it. I use it myself, about myself. It therefore has no power over me. It’s words…not a 2×4.

                      Stop being a pussy, and stop enabling others to be pussies.

                      You are not a victim because someone calls you a name.

                    2. Of course if I were talking to someone who were offended and really upset I would give them the advice you give in your last sentence.

                      But, if I were talking to the person who used the offensive language I would probably let them know I thought it was innappropiate. I wouldn’t start some twitter hashtag campaign or ask for some public apology, but there is some line between the usual black and white you’re stuck in.

                    3. why use the F word around gays

                      Those of us who aren’t steeping in college-level grievance bullshit DON’T CARE anymore.

                2. come on, Bo. This faux apology bullshit is getting tedious. Someone says something, often in the heat of a moment, and some pecksniff’s knickers bunch up. It just smacks of some Orwellian speech police where every syllable has to be weighed and/or sanitized so someone’s pearls don’t require clutching.

                  1. There’s a line at which the outrage is silly, I’m just saying there is the other side of that line where, yes, decent people with manners try not to say some words, and that that is not some violation of libertarian individualism or Orwellian 1984 state, it is just people being decent and mannered. And I think f*ggot rests in that line.

                    1. why the asterisk in faggot? I don’t think anyone here is going into outrage mode, particularly when it directly quotes Hill. He got pissed off and cursed at someone, an event that happens countless times a day.

                      In ordinary conversation, I am not likely to call someone a cocksucker, faggot, nigger, cunt, and or any terms the outrage machine revolves around. But when provoked, I just might and why in the hell should the person being provoked apologize for having a human reaction?

                      Decent people with manners don’t go fucking with others, either. Hill may be a total dick but does not seem to have instigated this.

                    2. I put the asterisk in because I have long ago chosen to not ‘curse.’ I’ve talked about this before, but I do not for religious moral reasons.

                      And I’m not making a comment about how bad Hill is for this. If I heard someone provoked say this I would probably just say ‘I know you were mad, and you had every right to be, but it’s not cool to say that, man.’

                    3. How can you not understand that typing f*ggot and faggot is exactly the same? The asterisk is not some magic anti-cursing ward.

                    4. probably has to do with manners, but frankly, if we are truly individuals, we are free to not abide by “manners”. It’s a long road for sure, but simply- I am not afraid of words, nor should you be.

                    5. And I think f*ggot rests in that line.

                      Thank god, no one cares what you think.

            1. “frowned upon”

              by who? Social paragons like yourself?

              Because you’re just *such* the role-model of pleasant-company.

              1. You really prove more and more that you don’t get out and mix with real people. I mean, it’s totally strange to you this concept that most groups of people are not going to countenance a person who drops the N or F word a lot? Sure, as Idle Hands notes there are some circles you could get away with it, but it is an increasingly small one.

                1. You don’t need to use ANY ‘disapproved’ words to have the social grace of a goddamn Tsetse fly = maybe the fucking *words* have nothing to do with it, and social grace is a product of *intent*?

                  Because you don’t have a bone in your body with ‘honestly good intent’, whereas I could curse like a hungover sailor all fucking day and still be goddman Lancelot compared to you and your backbiting sanctimonious poseur attempts to constantly pretend to some marginal personal moral or intellectual superiority.

                  The fact is, you’re a little shit with no class at all, and it shines through every pore. *but at least you don’t swear!* Kudos for that.

                  1. Yes, you’re classy Gilmore, the salty mouthed Aspy with a heart o’ gold.

                    1. Yes, you’re classy Gilmore

                      Yup this explains it all. You are just some sack of nuts trying to impose class into American culture where it has no place.

                      Worse you are getting that view of class from academia and Hollywood.

                      Who in their right mind would want those cunts deciding which words are classy and which are not?

                    2. “Worse you are getting that view of class from academia and Hollywood.”

                      Or from like, actual groups of people in social settings.

                  2. Why the fuck are you wasting your time with Blue Tulpa, GILMORE? You must have better things to do, like slamming your head in a car door a few hundred times.

                    1. I disagree Epi, that Gilmore comment is golden, it is a thing to behold.

                      Hilarious when Bo pulls the aspie/social retard adhom adhom. Hey, everyone, did you know libertarians are all aspies?

                    2. ” Hey, everyone, did you know libertarians are all aspies”

                      Ah, you’re think so? But unfortunately, none of us are libertarians. See, an *expert* told me so.

                    3. Ah, you’re think so? But unfortunately, none of us are libertarians. See, an *expert* told me so.

                      You’re a goddamned fucking cunt of a SoCon, Gilmore. I’d never state that openly in the polite circles I run in. Oh, who am I kidding, I live in my Mom’s basement.

                    4. Look, not one to tell people how to live their lives, but if you’re going to attack me I will make an exception and remind you that people who are regulars on a political discussion board to be part of a ‘online community’ are, yes, usually thought of as kind of sad by people in the real world.

                      But, keep commenting with your internet clique and let the good times roll!

                  3. The fact is, you’re a little shit with no class at all

                    I’ve been searching for the right word to describe Bo. Impudent comes to mind but it’s not quite right. He’s not openly rude, but infuriatingly annoying. Insolent, arrogant, certainly pedantic, but I can’t find a single term.

                    Any help?

                    1. “Francisco d’Anconia|6.6.14 @ 2:19PM|#

                      I’ve been searching for the right word to describe Bo”

                      Pest

                    2. Any help?

                      Sanctimonious: Making a show of being morally superior to other people.

                      It’s his entire shtick.

                    3. Look, anytime someone disagrees with someone on the internet and doesn’t follow it with ‘but hey, YMMV’ the other party can see it as the person trying to show themselves to be morally superior.

                      I certainly get mad and say things I later think I should not, but we are in a discussion page here talking about, I thought, whether it is right or wrong to use this word. If I say it is wrong and some here think its right, of course they can draw upon some tired saw like ‘oh, you think you’re so morally superior!’

                    4. Pecksniffian
                      Peck?sniff?i?an [pek-snif-ee-uhn] adjective ( often lowercase )
                      hypocritically and unctuously affecting benevolence or high moral principles.

                      That’s fucking it!

                    5. Pecksniffian

                      Perfect. It even encapsulates the fact he’s just a variety of concern troll, lecturing us for our own good. Which is why “Blue Tulpa” is the perfect nickname for him.

                    6. “lecturing us for our own good.”

                      Where do you even get this stuff from? I could care about ‘your’ (and what is that, your little online community?) own good.

                      I disagree with some people sometimes about what is right and wrong.

                      I can see if you came here for a drinking game or to make friends you might not like that, bar conversation usually frowns on too much debate.

                      But this is the discussion board for a political website. If that’s why you’re coming here, then calling me socially awkward is, well, interesting.

                    7. Blue Tulpa may be easy for the comentariate to grasp, I kind of like s.pecksniff.

                      Look! s.pecksniff is at it again!.

                      Has a nice ring to it.

                    8. “kinnath|6.6.14 @ 2:46PM|#

                      Pecksniffian”

                      That is a remarkably good word.

                      Ironically (?) its origin is in reference to politicians who’d ‘pander to religious conservatives before an election by pretending to be holier than thou’

                      Its from a Dickens novel i’d never heard of.

                    9. Whereas “peckersniff” is yet another no-no insult for gay men. Especially those known to have a fetish for smelling penises.

                    10. From now one, he shall be bo peck.sniff in my mind.

                    11. Dammit, SF! I had just thought about that.

                      Me thinkin’ I’m all clever ‘n’ shit…

                    12. This is VERY close. Sanctimonious and childish at the same time. A sanctimonious brat?

                    13. I’ve been searching for the right word to describe Bo. Impudent comes to mind but it’s not quite right. He’s not openly rude, but infuriatingly annoying. Insolent, arrogant, certainly pedantic, but I can’t find a single term.

                      Intellectually dishonest. That’s what it boils down to, as far as I’m concerned. People who want to argue for the sake of argument, who want to argue the meaning of a word or some such thing merely to ‘win’ or feel clever, they are not to be treated as adults, which is why I don’t treat them that way.

                    14. On any other thread Snark would be trying to latch onto any word I may not have used as clearly as he liked and run with it. It’s pure projection with a lot of you guys.

                    15. On any other thread Snark would be trying to latch onto any word I may not have used as clearly as he liked and run with it. It’s pure projection with a lot of you guys.

                      Still smarting from the time I out-pedanted you I see.

                      By the way, the proper denigration term is “aspie” not aspy.

                      Words matter, Bo, they matter.

                    16. With no hint of the irony. Wow.

                    17. On any other thread Snark would be trying to latch onto any word I may not have used as clearly as he liked and run with it. It’s pure projection with a lot of you guys.

                      Ironically, the word I hammered Bo on was…projection.

                    18. Woosh.

                    19. Woosh.

                      A stunning amount of *woosh*

                    20. they are not to be treated as adults, which is why I don’t treat them that way.

                      He is most certainly immature, in that he will NEVER concede a point. I have never seen him admit he’s wrong or even consider another POV. He will instead, move the goalposts in order to “win” (his perception) the argument or argue over the meaning of a word…

                      That’s what I find MOST infuriating.

                    21. He is most certainly immature, in that he will NEVER concede a point. I have never seen him admit he’s wrong or even consider another POV. He will instead, move the goalposts in order to “win” (his perception) the argument or argue over the meaning of a word…

                      I’ve had a few knock-down-drag-down arguments in these parts with people I take seriously, all well and good. But when someone displays that sort of behavior I treat them like the children they are. No reason to get infuriated, they are simply done deserving to be treated with proper respect.

                      The single other time I fucked with Bo, was about his using ‘projection’ on me when I mocked his SoCondar, I repeatedly asked him to define projection and to explain why I was engaging in such, he retreated into his adhom routine and emtpy one-liners. But you can see that it really got to him because he accuses me above of repeatedly attacking him with pedanticism. This is how you treat children, like children.

                    22. Francisco, you’ve got this cranky old man thing down pat. You don’t like me because I don’t always agree with your simplistic views on everything.

                  4. If you guys would just block the fucker, these threads would be all the better for it. It’s not difficult. Get Reasonable or simply ignore it.

                    1. I failed today. So I said the rosary and ten Hail Mary’s to atone for it.

                    2. “110 Lean|6.6.14 @ 2:29PM|#

                      If you guys would just block the fucker”

                      Is that only in Chrome?

                    3. Don’t know, Gilmore, which is why ignoring it was also suggested.

                    4. Is that only in Chrome?

                      Chrome, its variants and now Opera (which uses the same core engine). Reasonable can be found here.

                      bdhr has been developing fascr, which is for Firefox. it’s not a clone of Reasonable, but it does allow you to filter out commenters. I haven’t used it, but a few people around here have.

                    5. This guy would make a great college administrator.

                    6. “110 Lean|6.6.14 @ 2:29PM|#|?|filternamelinkcustom

                      Get Reasonable or simply ignore it.

                      well, I see now that it does work.

                      My only complaint here is that it makes little gaps in the thread indicating that the Pecksniffian left its piss-mark

                    7. Also – it shows the youtube videos embedded in links..?

                      Wow. that totally ruins the surprise-effect.

                    8. You can turn that off in the settings.

                2. mean, it’s totally strange to you this concept that most groups of people are not going to countenance a person who drops the N or F word a lot?

                  There’s a difference. If I used the N or F or any other word that made my friends uncomfortable, they would discreetly approach me and tell me of their concern. They wouldn’t call TMZ and force me to go on late night TV to apologize.

                  1. You’re not a public figure, and I’m not supporting TMZ here.

            2. Get that stick out of your ass Bo.

              Cunty faggot.

              1. Did you really take the time to add that?

                1. What are you people bickering about?

                2. “Yes, you’re classy Gilmore, the salty mouthed Aspy with a heart o’ gold.”

                  So it’s not cool, in your estimation, to say faggot or curse but it’s A-okay to use a handicap as an insult?

                  As the father of a young man that has Apergers, fuck you you sanctimonious twat.

      2. Why do you have to be gay for it to be insulting to be called a faggot?

        First off, whether something is insulting or not is an entirely subjective decision made by the target of the statement. If (and this is purely hypothetical), someone calls me a cold-hearted bastard and a bloody-knuckled thug, I’m not insulted. Because I’m just not.

        Its only insulting to be called a faggot if you think there is something wrong with being gay.

        IOW, no one can be insulted if they are called a faggot unless they are bigoted themselves. I’m trying to figure out why gay activists would care if anti-gay bigots feel insulted?

        1. With all due respect, that’s the craziest thing I’ve read outside of a Literary Theory class.

          1. Where do I go wrong, Bo?

            I suspect the issue is that the Outrage Machine feels entitled to tell people when they have been insulted. To me, that’s just nuts. “Don’t you realize you’ve been insulted?” is the equivalent of telling someone “Don’t you realize he just hurt your feelings?”

            I don’t see anything wrong with being gay, so I wouldn’t be insulted if somebody called me a faggot. My reaction would be to laugh in their face. At worst, they are advertising their own bigotry, after all. Its the equivalent of someone being insulted if somebody else announces they are an anti-gay bigot.

            It just makes no sense. Unless, of course, its a pretext for something else altogether.

            1. It’s a bunch of post-modern goobldeygook where the meaning of all words is purely subjective. No one lives like that. If someone were to walk up and call your wife [use your imagination to provide suitable insult here] I bet your wife would be upset and if you said to her ‘honey, that’s only insulting if you think it is.’

              1. Who exactly was Jonah Hill insulting? Oh yeah, a cameraman. It’s between Jonah Hill and the cameraman. I don’t know why the rest of the country and Pearl Clutchers Anonymous had to get involved.

              2. It’s a bunch of post-modern goobldeygook where the meaning of all words is purely subjective.

                No, its not. I don’t think anyone can BE insulted unless they FEEL insulted. And I don’t think anyone can tell someone else how they feel.

                Its that simple, really. This isn’t about what the words mean. Its about the effect they have.

                1. Again, see my example, like all post-modernism, I doubt you live like that.

                  1. I doubt you live like that.

                    I don’t. The other point you are missing is that this isn’t about some post-modern account of what words mean. I can’t put it any simpler than this:

                    This isn’t about what the words mean. Its about the effect they have.

                    Try to keep up, Bo.

                    If I tell someone that their work is what I would expect from a third-year attorney, they might be insulted (because they’ve been practicing for 30 years), or they might be complimented (because they just graduated from law school). I’m not saying the words mean different things; they mean what they mean. I’m saying different people take the same words and meaning differently, and how people take the words determines whether its an insult or not.

              3. I bet your wife would be upset and if you said to her ‘honey, that’s only insulting if you think it is.’

                I note, of course, that you continue to miss the point that nobody can tell someone else if their feelings have actually been hurt. You persist in pretending that you can both (a) tell someone their feelings have been hurt and (b) tell someone their feelings haven’t been hurt.

                I do neither. If my wife feels insulted, then she has been insulted, full stop. I’m willing to respect other people’s feelings. Why aren’t you?

                1. Again, if someone approached your wife and said that and she told you ‘it’s OK, RC, it doesn’t bother me’ I still don’t think you’d live by your precept. I could be wrong, I just doubt it.

                  1. You are wrong. I’d take her statement that she isn’t bothered at face value.

                    That, however, would not preclude me from being pissed off all on my own. As in “I’m glad you’re OK. You’ll excuse me for a moment while I curbstomp the motherfucker anyway.”

      3. This makes TMZ a bunch of shameless blood-sucking cocksuckers as well. Fuck them all, Hollywood is a goddamn sewer full of parasites. PEACE.”

        Now THAT is a rant to respect. TMZ is quickly becoming the media version of HUAC–looking for the next wrongthink to occur so that people can lose their livelihoods if they don’t bow at the altar of political correctness.

        Supposedly, they’ve had that Bieber “nigger” rap on ice for years and used it to blackmail the kid into making appearances on the show.

    2. The correct way to express hostility in a non-violent fashion is to shout:

      Suck my dong, friend.

      See, anger, but no hurt feelings.

    3. He says in his apology that he chose the word because he was upset and wanted to say the meanest thing he could to this guy. That’s actually the obnoxious part is that he claims that he’s a friend of the friends of Dorothy, but believes the meanest thing he can call someone is a cocksucking faggot.

      His apology then goes on to miss the point that he’s an uncreative dick, who can’t muster a better insult, and totemizes the word as being inherently evil, rather than the fact that he’s just admitted he thinks calling someone gay is the worst thing ever.

      1. Legalize dueling now! Then we can skip all the triggers words and bring back a certain touch of refinement to the colonies. Also people would be better behaved if being a dick meant you might get shot at dawn.

        1. That’s pretty close to how it works in my neighborhood.

        2. And the people that weren’t better behaved would be pretty fucking ruthless and everyone would know it.

          No more lying, passive-aggressive politicians. If you like your lies, you can keep them.

      2. Maybe somebody should call Jonah a cocksucking faggot. When he loses his shit instead of laughing, everyone can see his true colors.

        1. I like cocksucking faggots. I don’t like Jonah Hill. Why would I insult cocksucking faggots by making that comparison?

          1. To point out that he obviously considers it a bad thing, no matter what excuses he gives? Try and follow along, jesse. I know that most gay people are retarded, but come on.

            1. Retarded? *tweet!* Bigotry! A million points penalty!

            2. I’m not your mom; I understand what you’re saying. My point is, I am unwilling to insult cocksucking faggots by comparing them to Jonah Hill. I just won’t do it, even if it would be epically funny to see him melt down over it.

            3. Special Guest Appearance by Professor of Insultology, Epi!

              From his thesis “…your Mom” to his current best seller “F$*& you, you #$%&ing; *&^%!”, Epi brings the insult thunder.

      3. His apology then goes on to miss the point that he’s an uncreative dick, who can’t muster a better insult,

        The younger generations never really learned to curse with any style or imagination. I learned all sorts of cool words playing golf with my grandfather.

        On a semi-related note:

        http://freethoughtblogs.com/he…..he-c-word/

        1. The only thing I learned from my grandfather was, “Keep your shithooks off the table!” (Referring to my toddler hands wandering at supper.)

        2. What was weird was my younger brother’s social group (mid-teens at the time) somehow picked up cunt as less offensive than bitch…In CA. As far as I can tell none of them had much exposure to British culture.

          It was bizarre and funny, but some of the parents eventually heard it and freaked the fuck out.

          1. They probably saw some english movie, and assumed “cunt’ is to ‘bitch’ as ‘bloody’ is to ‘fucking'”

            Which in a certain sense is true. Can’t blame them.

      4. ” he chose the word because he was upset and wanted to say the meanest thing he could to this guy.”

        Jonah Hill has NO IMAGINATION

        1. If Hill had any real talent, he could have found a way to insult a dozen interest groups with half a dozen words.

    4. What Fist says. My lesbian sister has been known people faggot when pissed at them.

  3. Suck my dick you faggots!!!

    Is faggot as bad as the n-word?

    I really don’t think it should be.

    Also are we agreed that a faggot is a younger English school boy who is assigned to an older English school boy to fetch wood and do other chores for him. Or are sticking with the people who are put on fires cuz gay hate?

  4. Suck my dick faggot.

  5. So wait – is he saying now that he *doesnt* want the faggot to suck his dick?

    Im totally confused.

  6. So, does Louis CK have to apologize for this now?

    FAGGGGOOOOTTT!!!

  7. Nope. Still not caring.

  8. If we’re warming up our outrage

    Across Brooklyn, at Mexican restaurant Los Pollitos III, a reporter at DNAinfo this week discovered that the drinks menu is broken down into “For Kids (No Alchohol),” “For Ladies (Low Alcohol),” “For Every One (Alcohol),” and “For Men (Extra Alcohol).” Drink prices correspond with their alcohol content.

    1. The Outrage Machine REQUIRES A SACRIFICE! It must be fed!

      I hope they name one of the burgers the STFU You Whining Cunt burger. Two buns, nothing in between except a viscous fluid.

      1. Does one have to apologize for calling someone a Cuntburger? Asking for a friend.

        1. MY answer is above

          in short, it’s No.

        2. Does one have to apologize for calling someone a Cuntburger?

          Not if thy’re up to a whole lot of tomfuckery.

        3. burger? I thought it was cunt tacko*

          *(I’m from MN so I’m using the local spelling)

          1. If they don’t have a super-deluxe taco on the menu called the Wetback Special, I will be disappointed.

            “We just, yous knows, want our Latino customers to feel at home when theys eat here.”

        4. Does one have to apologize for calling someone a Cuntburger?

          Only if (1) they are offended and (2) you didn’t mean to offend them.

        5. “mhmmmmm…..cuntburger…..grrrrgglel”

          – Homer Simpson

  9. He should have punched the paparazzo in the face instead.

    1. Knocking him down, teabagging him and pissing on his face is also an acceptable answer.

  10. Is it such a grave insult to call someone a bundle of sticks?

  11. Whoa, whoa, whoa. People care what Jonah Hill has to say? About anything? Since when? Stop this crazy thing, I want to get off.

    1. You just don’t like him because you’re jealous he ended up with Emma Stone in Superbad.

      Or, wait a second, was it the even worse Michael Cera who did that? Haven’t seen that movie in a while.

      1. I turned it off halfway through, even though it had Emma Stone in it. Jonah Hill and Judd Apatow can get me to stop watching something with Emma Stone in it. Think about that.

        1. jesus, do you like anything other than guns, pot, video games, and TOS?

          1. NVM that’s a pretty good list.

          2. Who has time to like anything other than guns, pot, video games, and [insert TV show of choice here]?

            1. Also, motorcycles and fast cars.

              And bagpipe contests.

          3. I like Veronica Mars. Does that count?

            1. No, because Kirsten Bell has a lazy eye that I can’t help but stare at every time she appears on screen and distracts me from everything else that is happening.

                1. She is adorable!

              1. DON’T TALK SHIT ABOUT KRISTEN BELL

                1. I do what I want. SUCK MY DICK FAGGOT!!!

    2. What Episiarch said. I don’t want to live in a world where anyone cares about anything Jonah Hill thinks. People are so desperate for outrage and a new sacrifice to the PC Gods, they are reduced to pretending that the thoughts of completely unimportant people somehow matter. It would be one thing if the President or even a movie star anyone cared about called someone a fag. But Jonah Hill? This is the best they can come up with?

  12. I have found most of his movies* to be pretty good, obviously I have no taste and am worse than our favorite trolls.

    *Except Get Him to the Greek, fuck Russell Brand.

  13. Don’t Accept Jonah Hill’s Apology!

    Not worshiping homos and faggots isn’t a crime of any sort; there’s nothing to apologize for. Fortunately I’d never heard of the guy.

    And Ignore His Offensive Comments Too!

    Another Two Minute Hate over nothing.

    TIME Announces New Version Of Magazine Aimed At Adults

    Reason seems to be turning into some sort of bizarro-DailyKos.

    1. “‘Bizarro-DailyKos.””

      This is certainly a better description than the TMZ-comparisons we’ve made lately.

      Someone in the editorial dept has decided to cover lots more ‘tripe-news’. Who to blame?

      1. Meh, today I would excuse it – Friday and they want to get out of the office, so they just scrounge up whatever is lying around. However, lately we have been getting a bit more fluff and poorly thought out pieces.

        1. I buy this.

          The “work” that gets done in most offices on Friday afternoons is usually better off not done at all.

          *exceptions made for politicians releasing potentially bad news, and equity research people publishing really harsh pieces that they want to dominate headlines all the following week.

    2. TIME Announces New Version Of Magazine Aimed At Adults

      So they are now admitting that the current version of the magazine is aimed at children?

    3. Anybody say it was a crime?

      You people were taught what manners were, at some point, yes?

  14. Time?!?

    I didn’t know they were still operating.

  15. The article says to ignore this guy’s offensive comments, but I didn’t even *know* about the comments until I read the article.

    I’m not even sure I knew who Jonah Hill was before I read the article.

    Next article: “Please ignore the obscene sculpture in the Sioux City town hall!”*

    *AFAIK there is no such sculpture; but if there were, the hypethetical article would be the first I’d heard of it.

      1. She was fucking hot back in the day. She had amazing blue eyes.

  16. I thought that was Chris Penn for a second.

  17. It is tough to keep up with the moving goal posts of PC language.

    When I was a kid, faggot, pussy and wimp were pretty much interchangeable insults of varying severity that all meant the same thing. And none of them had anything to do with your sexual preference.

    And back in the 80’s my gay suitemates and their friends all referred to themselves as fags (and queens). They all had what they termed “fag-hags” hanging around. And unless you put a “fucking” in front of it, faggot wasn’t really an insult. It was kind of like calling someone a hoodlum – just not a word of the time at all. Unless you put “fucking” in front of it. Then it becomes a generic insult just like about any word with the word “fucking” in front of it. The polite word was “gay”. The rude term was “homo”, but only because the intent was usually rude. The insult was “queer” – a term that nobody really used. And they were taking that back with “we’re here, we’re queer” chants.

    I would say we’ve gone to far with the PC stuff, but the kid getting expelled from Penn for the never-before-or-since deemed racial slur “water buffalo” was over 20 years ago. So I guess we are going to stay at peak derp for the indeterminate future.

    1. One thing experience has taught me is that this perpetually hurt feelings PC language dance usually works. The only failure I can think of was the change from handicapped (which had only recently replaced “disabled” which was the replacement for “crippled”) to the ridiculous “handi-capable”.

      1. The thing now which seems universal is that the people complaining about the ‘offending words’ tend universally to NOT belong to said ‘victim groups’ but instead seem to be carrying the banner for Social Justice for All Victims.

        The case of the easily-upset Tranny @ University of Chicago was in fact the exception to the rule. Normally, its a UCSB style universal pearl clutching in the name of the nameless/faceless ‘PTSD’ sufferers – when said clutcher probably doesn’t know a single PTSD-sufferer at all (*much less an actual *veteran*), and no one from said victim-groups were demanding this policy ‘protecting them’ in the first place.

        Word-Policing, just like Environmental policy, is far less about actually ‘reducing harm’, and much more about instituting endless systems of CONTROL into people’s lives, where the people with the hands on the levers of said control are the Approved Progressive Top People. Everything is about Moar Ways To Control. Gun Control isn’t about reducing ‘violence’ at all; stats prove it. Its about getting claws into Everything. Including your own ability to protect yourself.

        Thats all its ever about. What’s so shocking is how few of the people involved in this process are even aware that’s what they’re doing.

        1. The thing now which seems universal is that the people complaining about the ‘offending words’ tend universally to NOT belong to said ‘victim groups’ but instead seem to be carrying the banner for Social Justice for All Victims.

          Not too long ago I was at the Indian pueblo in Taos, New Mexico. The people there still speak their native language. Every single on of them, when speaking English, referred to themselves proudly as being an Indian. I have had considerable experience with real Indians over the years and I have never once heard one refer to themselves as a “Native American”.

          That is just one example of how right you are. The people complaining about language are always just professional victims and not members of the group the language is supposed to victimize.

          1. ” The people complaining about language are always just professional victims “

            They see ‘other people’ as mere paws to use in their effort to attain some kind of *social-power*

            Its never about the ‘actual people’; its about using this particular social-leverage against people for their own personal benefit.

            This story isn’t about Jonah Hill = its about the media saying, “WE CONTROL YOU”. BOW TO TMZ! BOW!

    2. When your entire self identity is rooted in feeling superior to other people because of your “tolerance” and adherence to some ideology, you can never win. Eventually you run your enemies out of public life and then what? Who do you have to feel smug over? No one and that is a problem. The solution is to just make something else offensive that wasn’t before and start feeling smug about the people who do that. And then when you have run them out of public life invent something else and so forth.

      They went after Dan Savage for using the word transvestite or whatever. Dan fucking Savage. There is no end to it. It is just a pathetic little morality play illustrating the show trials and the great terror.

      1. I completely miss the point of the tranny slur offense. I have never heard “tranny” used to describe a transgendered person in colloquial use. A tranny was always a transvestite. I suppose some subgroup of transgendered individuals would be identified as transvestites for at least some period of time, but the vast majority of transvestites do not appear to be transgendered. I’m not sure why they want to claim the label for themselves, and then demonize it as a taboo word. Why not leave it to the cross-dressing community and be done with it?

        Probably because of something related to your theory. PC label mongering demands ever more label defining – since people eventually adjust to new social norms.

        Once you’ve lived a few years you start to see the same people who just told you one label was the new and acceptable term turn around and tell you the same word is now offensive and you have to use another one. Jesse, I’m looking at you! Black Power! No, wait. Afro-American. Black is offensive. No, wait. Black again. No, black is offensive, you must use African American. I think everyone ignored him when he tried to change it again around the turn of the century.

        My (black) college roomate and my (also black) ex-wife both found the hyphenated american thing offensive and objected to being defined by someone without their consent. 20 years down the road it still torqued them off.

  18. So he said something anti-gay? All I’ve heard of this is his apology, not the crime. I thought it was a deliberate joke, with him making a big apology and begging forgiveness, but no one knowing what he did wrong.

    That would’ve been funny.

    1. That would have been.

      Also, perhaps a pre-emptive apology, apologizing in advance to anyone I might address as [insert comprehensive list of knicker-bunching terms here].

      1. I feel like we’d need to resurrect some ’70s comedians to make this work.

        I can’t think of anyone right know who could pull it off, which is a shame.

        1. There has to be someone out there with talent. It is just that the environment is so oppressive none of them have the courage.

          Can you imagine what Richard Pryor or George Carlin would do to these people? Mel Brooks is still alive but they just ignore him as an old guy and would just refuse to make any movie he wrote that took them on.

          It is a sorry state of affairs.

          1. Louis CK

            Also Doug Stanhope and Joe Rogan though they are less known.

            Danny McBride could probably pull it off as well.

            1. Have any of those guys ever actually taken on the PC police or just gone after politically acceptable targets?

              1. Patton Oswalt, though a bit of a typical leftist himself, has gone on a crusade against PC/social justice harpies on Twitter for the past year or two. He used to be a god for pop culture nerds. Now go to the AVClub and most people hate him for his “disappointing” tweets.

            2. I saw Joe Rogan take apart some heckler at a live performance. It was pretty epic.

          2. Hell, just watch some of Carlin’s last specials. Plenty of people get pissed at him. at least until he jokes about religion or the US. It’s wonderful listening to segments of the crowd turn on him when he makes fun of hysteria over plastic.

  19. OT: U.S. Air base in Texas shelters wave of immigrant children

    […]

    At Lackland, the children between the ages of 12 and 17 are handed several sheets and towels when they arrive and checked for lice and scabies. They then undergo physical and mental health evaluations, and are assigned a metal bunk from among the rows that line the walls of large barracks-style rooms.

    There is little need for storage because, as social workers put it, few of these children arrived with anything other than the clothes they wore on their journey north. The administration estimates it costs taxpayers $252 per child per day.

    […]

    —-

    That comes to $91,980 per ‘child’ per year. Either they consume drinks with collodial gold in it, or some of their “service providers” are getting filthy rich.

    1. Obama stopped deporting children so foreign nationals started dumping their unwanted children across the border. Incentives, how do they work?

      Here is my question. Is Obama just so ignorant that he had no idea the effect creating this incentive would have or did he know that and is just so fucking evil that he intentionally created this situation where thousands of children are being abandoned to the care of the federal government in hopes of creating a crisis for his own political advantage?

      1. in hopes of creating a crisis for his own political advantage?

        And a huge income stream for his buddies in the “caring industries”.

  20. Whenever I call my gay friends “cock-sucker” their usual response is “pussy-licker.”

    1. Is pussy a worse word then cunt?

      1. I don’t think so. But I defer to Sugar Free’s vastly superior knowledge of feminist dogma.

        1. As far as I can tell, “pussy” is only .56 as insulting as “cunt.” And it seems to have in-group acceptance. If a women describes her crotchular area as her “pussy,” it might be considered distasteful (sorry) to the hive mind, but only the truly priggish are “offended.” The self-appellation of “cunt” is only acceptable in states of excitation (i.e. “Go on, fuck my cunt.” ; “My cunt is so wet.” ; “I want to stuff a Hot Pocket in my cunt.” etc.)

          1. That was pretty much what I thought.

      2. Well people say “I love pussy” and are less likely to say “I love cunt”. It’s not a question of worstness, it’s use that defines a word.

        1. It’s true, usually one is more specific in that instance. Not merely, “I love cunt”, but a directed “I love your cunt.”

          Hopefully directed at someone who, y’know, wants the attention.

  21. Yeah, video made a lot of sense 😀

  22. When I was kid in the late 70s and 80s the word used most was “fag” not “faggot”.

    “Fag” said like a towne from Boston would say it.

    My memory is not totally clear but I am pretty sure there was a big gap between knowing the word ‘fag” and then learning it was short for ‘faggot’

    In fact it was not until college when I moved to Seattle when i really started hearing the word ‘faggot’ being used with any frequency and it was mostly said by gay guys.

    I grew up in eastern Washington (the state) and I am wondering is this a generational thing or regional thing.

  23. So he called the guy a “cock sucker”? I thought everyone was supposed to be all “hetero flexible” these days? How is that an insult? Looks to me like Hill was just complimenting the guy on his open mindedness.

  24. I’d like to see a comparison between TMZ’s staff sitting around dissecting this and a Chinese Communist Party Struggle Session.

  25. You’d think the producers of Deadwood would have been crucified by now.

    Cocksuckers!

    *that word was so overused in that show it simply lost all meaning entirely. In fact, Deadwood cursed so much it became tedious and no longer anything even remotely related to ‘why vulgarity is used’. It was like window-dressing. Meaningless.

    1. They should have used period swearing like they originally intended.

    2. DON’T TALK SHIT ABOUT DEADWOOD!

      And fuck HBO for canceling it!

    3. Any man who doubts me… sucks cock by choice!

  26. He was great in Moneyball and Wolf of Wall Street. My dad hates him, though.

    And on behalf of all the lurkers: STFU Bo, you fagg*t.

  27. What a bunch of chicken-eating bassoon players.

  28. He also called the photographer a bundle of sticks?

  29. His embarrassment is punishment enough. And the lashing he probably got from his studio.

  30. Also, a lot of you idiots are whining about 100x more than any gay person would over being called a faggot.

    Whining like little pussies. Because manners exist. I’ve known waifish drama queen twinks with more fortitude than you babies.

    1. Whining like little pussies.

      Look everybody! MANNERS!

      Tony, you should be at least smart enough (unlike Bo) to know the you can’t hold the ‘moral high ground’ while showing your ass and shitting on people.

      1. That would be quite unmannerly. I have no idea what you’re referring to.

    2. The trick here is to do it like this =

      ‘*pretend like you actually think its ‘sad and unnecessary that the world is such a place that people still hold such hateful feelings in their heart, but you feel glad for Jonah that he was able to Grow and Move Forward and is a better person for it now’

      See, if you were a woman? you’d understand how this ‘passive aggressive’ manipulation of people actually works, and not fuck it all up by being a silly gloating jerk who goes “YEAH RIGHT HE APOLOGIZED THE FUCKSTICK!!! WE SHOWED YOU, ASSHOLE!! NO FUCKING DOUCHEFACE CALLS MY GAY FRIENDS FUCKING COCKSUCKERS YOU SHITBRAIN!!”

      The whole trick is to pretend like you’re standing on the moral high ground = not using vindictive manipulation to lash out at people who piss you off just for using words you don’t like.

      When you give up the game like that, it actually makes you look like a shit, and guys like Jonah look like the victim.

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