Greenwald, Snowden to Name Names of American Spying Targets, US Not Actually Leaving Afghanistan, NYPD to Start Carrying Heroin Antidote: P.M. Links

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The Guardian Glenn Greenwald has revealed the next big bombshell that will come from Edward Snowden's National Security Agency documents: the names of Americans the government is spying on.
- President Barack Obama wants to keep nearly 10,000 troops in Afghanistan after the withdrawal of forces at the end of the year. This means that we're not actually withdrawing forces, doesn't it?
- The Supreme Court declined to get involved today in a failed effort to force a news reporter from Fox to reveal her source of confidential information about alleged Colorado mass killer James Holmes. The court also declined to consider a case challenging the Secret Service's practice of keeping protesters far away from the president at public appearances.
- New York Police Department officers will start carrying nalaxone, a drug that helps reverse the effects of heroin overdoses.
- A pregnant 25-year-old Pakistani woman was reportedly stoned to death outside a courthouse by her own family for marrying the man of her choice.
- The European Union is holding off on additional sanctions against Russia after Vladimir Putin gave his thumbs up to Ukraine's new president.
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...the names of Americans the government is spying on.
He's violating their right to be forgotten.
Hello.
I'm willing to bet a lot of us teathuglican kichsuckers is going to be on the lust.
Ugh.
You've committed typos with list in your heart.
And I'm not even going to go into the subject/verb agreement issue in your repost, choosing instead to wonder why you continue your hideous harassment of our proud Native Americans with this "Ugh" business.
How?
How? The Hekawi
Me know how. What me want is chance.
The Supreme Court declined...
...to do its job?
I wish I could decline to do my job, and still get paid and hold a lifetime appointment.
I say we start keeping count of H&R commenters who are on the list or not, and use it as our newest shaming tool.
You mean not making the list? I assume none of Tulpa's socks are on the list, but they might've been inadvertently included due to association. Or maybe because someone in the NSA has a voyeur fetish.
Not being on the list could mean you're a very little fish. Or it could mean you're so damn good they don't even know about you.
I approve.
OT: Did you see my question about the scouts in the AM Links?
Oops. No I skipped AM links today. Busy. But, no, wasn't us - I was driving up and back from your Green Mountain homeland and then spent Monday grillin' and drinkin'. If you're up in our neck of the woods at all, you should come by for a drink or several.
What were you doing in Vermont?
Dropping the kids off at camp, and rambling around a little afterwards. I keep forgetting how gorgeous it is up there.
It wasn't the boy scout camp in Eden, was it?
Of course it is. And you can carry with no permit. Sure you don't want to go for a hike?
No, this was a homeschool thing not a scout thing. Though I've been to that camp.
I honestly would consider moving to Vermont. Except for Burlington proper and the Ben and Jerry's guys the state is pretty awesome. Sort of odd the FSP didn't try going that way just to piss off the Bernie Sanders supporters.
The FSP fucked up and got too blindsided by no sales tax and the state motto. 20,000 people would have a much bigger impact in Vermont than the same number in NH.
I would move back to Burlington if there were any jobs. It's still got some of the socialist crap, but less than here in Boston, and such a short drive to sane country. Though my dating life would take a pretty big hit moving there.
Oh, the scenic wind turbine monstrosities.
Just kidding - it is (mostly) beautiful country.
My dad haaaates those things. You can just see their lights at night over the southern horizon, and listening to them you'd think it was a bunch of spotlights focused on his house.
Misogyny Is Poison, And You're Drinking It
Elliot Rodger doesn't need to have been a madman. It's enough that he was a man.
In an atmosphere of constant sub rosa misogyny, where that constant misogyny actually forms part of our sense of reality, it's the people who object that bring us up short, more than the people who participate or even take it to extremes.
Why do feminists "overreact" to the tiniest traces of misogyny in ads and media, things the more enlightened call harmless fun? Because those tiny traces pollute our minds and our environments. Because we struggle each day through a miasma of subtle, insidious particles of information saying that men need to fuck women into submission, that women are inherently lesser beings, that women's looks are their only worth, that women's safety and health and comfort are unimportant???and the particles that stick to you don't wash off easily.
We must create the New Soviet Man.
Where was my trigger warning?
I smell a ton of projection in that article.
It smells like... Victory!
Seriously, i find a lot of the various hashtag comments and all to be informative and educational, and I can sympathize, but it does occur to me that at some level it's reducing half the population to anonymized victimhood. I'm not sure what that buys.
It also makes me wonder if gender is now overtaking race and religion as the most effective vehicle to get us all to hate each other for no clear reason.
I do find that my reaction to attractive people can be hatred depending solely on the person's gender.
Nah. Only for the real haters. The PUAs and the MRAs and the feminists are just the fringe extremes of the GENDER WAR bullshit. Let them face off against each other like they so badly want to do and leave the rest of us who like the other gender to do our thing.
(puts Barry White record on)
I do have some sympathy for the MRA's, insomuch as the agenda to equalize things in domestic law cases. Women/Mothers do have an overwhelmingly favorable bias in those cases, to the point of terminally fucking the fathers financially.
I was reading about Dave Foley from Kids in the Hall. Evidently, he divorced at the peak of his earnings and had child support set accordingly. Since then, his earnings have dropped considerably, but the courts refuse to revisit the support agreement to adjust the payments.
Additionally, the family court judges have seized the power to change agreements ex post facto. So pre-nups don't really guarantee anything unless you happen to get in front of a judge who takes rule of law seriously.
Or your lawyer plays golf with the judge more often than hers.
I thought you were a PUA?
You are always bragging about all the models and moms you fucked.
Look, yes, I have banged hundreds of broads, internationally, but know this: I wrap my rascal TWO times 'cause I like it to be joyless and without sensation, as a way of punishing supermodels.
Smells like Marcotte and I won't go there.
How do you know what Amanda smells like?
That's funny, I see this kid as having a lot in common with radical feminists. Oh, sure, the torturous "microaggressions" he was constantly subjected to were of a different variety, but his self-pitying overreaction to them was straight out of the feminist textbook.
It's so great to have people around that can so effectively pinpoint the sources of my false consciousness, but only after they've finished the laundry.
I'm willing to bet a lot of us teathuglican kochsuckers is going to be on the list.
So even I, a glutton for punishment from this sort of thing, have been avoiding the feminist sites like a plague because of this UCSB asshole. I really don't feel the need to be lectured about how "society says that men should always have access to women's bodies" etc etc. Any braver soul seen anything lately? I don't want links, just a report on how bad it is.
I stayed off the internet all weekend. When I finally got around to it last night, it honestly wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
David Thompson, as always, has an interesting article, even if it isn't directly about the UCSB contretemps:
Your Masculinity Must Be Abolished
David Thompson is free to get his masculinity abolished and be left with an angry inch.
Actually, David is the sort of person to skewer the feminist nonsense that claims gender is a social and not biological construct. (That's more or less a paraphrase of what the feminist in the article is saying. There's a lot more.)
One of the craziest semi-mainstream ones is a writer at WaPo blaming Seth Rogen and Judd Apatow movies.
Read the comments that support her. Depressing.
I did see that.
Seriously, I think the far-left is going to start being nuts in a way that turns off their "soft" support in places like the suburbs and Hollywood. Those people are on the left because of culture war reasons, but it's one thing to push WAR ON WIMMENZ!!! when it's yokels in Texas stopping women from their God-given right to have abortions; it's quite another go after Hollywood and Academia for the same crimes.
The fact that he murdered at least 2 men as well doesn't seem to matter much.
All within the Kulturkampf, nothing outside the Kulturkampf, nothing against the Kulturkampf.
3 men stabbed, 1 shot, 2 women shot.
Twitchy had a good roundup of all the sloped forehead types that think he shot 6 sorority chicks.
I really don't feel the need to be lectured about how "society says that men should always have access to women's bodies" etc etc.
I'd like to know where they've been hiding this society all my life.
These earbuds are designed exclusively for watching porn
Also featuring the product poorly Photoshopped onto stock photos.
I was hoping they muted male voices.
I would like it to mute "Oh man, your cock is SOOOOO BIIIG!!!!"
Yeah, that too. I usually just mute it. American actresses act too over the top, and Japanese actresses act like they're being raped.
Seriously. The squealing is just mind-numbing.
Though one thing Japanese porn does right, IMO, is to use fairly normal looking guys.
You may think three inches is a normal penis size. I don't.
In my experience they are usually around the 5 inch mark, which is about average, depending on the study and the race being looked at.
Me, not so much.
"This porn would be so much better if I could only hear what they are saying!"
said nobody ever.
I'm sure that extending the frequency range beyond the limits of human hearing (at both ends of the spectrum) will truly add to the experience.
I was appreciating the 6-channel earbuds. With a 4D experience. And 360 surround.
The real problem is that you need anaerobic gold connectors to truly appreciate the sound.
TBH, I think the real future of porn is in CGI, as it becomes cheaper and better. Eventually you'll be able to customize whatever you want by just clicking a few boxes.
All I really want to do is "click" a few boxes.
LAS VEGAS (AP) ? Southern Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy no longer is a Republican.
Bundy, who is embroiled in a dispute over grazing with the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, has switched his affiliation to the Independent American Party.
He and his wife, Carol, signed registration forms to the cheers of supporters at an Independent American Party gathering in Las Vegas on Friday night.
The event was held to honor Bundy for what organizers called "his courage in standing up for state sovereignty."
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2.....can-party/
Is there a point to this? Other than your obsession with Republicans?
Weigel is as Weigel does.
Bundy was a hero here a month ago!
No, the govt was criticized here a month ago, Weigel, because Harry Reid's son needed Bundy's land for a business deal w/ the Chinese causing the govt to overstep its boundaries.
Palin's Buttplug|5.27.14 @ 4:46PM|#
"Bundy was a hero here a month ago!"
Lie, you fucking slimebag.
My experience with Obamacare:
My wife and I were informed by doctors that there might be some complications with her pregnancy, and I began making preparations for extended parental leave (for both of us) should the baby arrive prematurely and require intensive care. One such consequence of me working drastically reduced hours is that I would lose my employer provided PPO.
About a month ago, I went to the covered CA website and priced out exchange plans so I could compare them to my options through COBRA. At no time did I sign up or pay for any plan offered through the exchange. The exchange plans absolutely sucked, even the "platinum" ones, and so I opted for COBRA.
Con't
Con't
I just got home from Memorial Day Weekend and found my mailbox unusually full of mail: Because I provided my info to Covered CA, I have now been automatically signed up for public assistance, and my kids have been tentatively enrolled in Medicaid (they are already covered by a "cadillac" plan). So, I called the case worker (yes, I apparently have a case worker too) first thing this morning, explaining that the financial information that I provided to Covered CA was theoretical, and that I don't need, want, or qualify for public assistance. I explained that even in the worst case scenario, I have plenty of savings, and my family will not be needing TARP, SNAP, or Medicaid.
Not good enough. I now have to go to the office in person to meet with the case worker, show her a statement from my brokerage account, and sign an affidavit, under penalty of perjury, stating that I don't need the money.
I dare somebody to try and tell me that this isn't a naked vote buying scheme.
Holy Shit. Good luck.
If they send the checks anyway, I'm hosting a Reason open bar.
If they're big enough, pay for me flight to it too!
And throw in some remedial English classes while you're at it.
Damn.
I went to the site for about 10 seconds to see if it was down when they said it was. I was nervous, looking over my shoulder. I was using a work computer and was behind a proxy. I hoped if I was botted at least they wont have my real name. I felt like I was sneaking a playboy from the secret collection. I felt guilty and yet giddy. When the site finally came up by not coming up I was relieved, and immediately gained perspective. Ex post facto fear. Like I had just gotten away with doing 187 Mph on the freeway and living/not getting caught.
I have since grown a greater respect for my own self preservation.
You did the right thing. Never again.
Just tell her that if they send you the checks, you will be making a big donation a a pet political cause of the Koch brothers. I'm sure the payments will come to a screeching halt.
Take the money, we'll drink to the docs being wrong.
You are probably also counted in the "statistics" of people who successfully signed up for Obamacare.
It's Brazil, and you're Archibald Buttle. Have fun.
Do try to confess quickly. We don't want to negatively affect your credit rating.
Archie was Tuttle. Buttle was the poor sap the goons grabbed instead due to the paperwork error.
It isn't a naked vote buying scheme. It's a naked vote buying and extortion scheme.
F-ING John Roberts. Every time I hear Obamacare stories, I curse that SOB.
I'd say record all this if you're not in an all-party consent state, but I wouldn't be the one facing the wrath of the government in such a case.
Be certain to write us while you're in prison.
Nothing. Left. To. Cut.
Wait, so you have to PROVE you don't need the assistance in order for them to not give it to you. I bet, however, if you stayed on assistance and they investigated, they'd probably try to charge you for defrauding them when you had sufficient means to support yourself.
"There is no way to rule honest men..."
This is what I was going to say.
Also, how is this different from "slamming" sales tactics they so deride in the private sector?
It's being done by a public entity, BP. Come on, man.
What's the big deal? Amazon does this all the time!
Holy shit!
Case worker? Communism has arrived.
Fucking Obama and the Democrats. What have they done?
Good luck.
One of the more jaw dropping parts of the conversation:
I suggested that perhaps my zip code should automatically disqualify me, and she replied that she was the case worker for "several" people in my city.
Don't forget that fraud is rampant in welfare, which likely means at least some of means with less integrity are partaking.
My prediction: They'll insist on giving to you over your protests and then later they'll come back and prosecute you for welfare fraud.
Wear a wire to the meeting.
Do they do that anymore? I'm curious with the amount of welfare going through the roof whether the number of fraud prosecutions have similarly increased.
"In other news, Libertarian Candidate Playa Manhattan's campaign was rocked today by allegations that 5 years ago, he was part of an elaborate welfare fraud scheme. Anonymous sources released to this station show that Mr Manhattan's family and he were signed up for over six months to receive numerous benefits through California welfare systems...Mr Manhattan's campaign manager has denied that Mr Manhattan broke any rules, and claims that this was all a big mistake and he quit receiving benefits as soon as he could bother filing the paperwork".
We're all lawbreakers- assuming we piss off the wrong people.
This is not a naked vote buying scheme. The case worker will be fully clothed at the interview.
With any luck.
Dude. Go through an insurance broker or something. You probably know this, but you don't *have* to get O-care.
I know. I chose COBRA for the next 18 months, and then I'm going to continue the plan privately.
The O-care thing was completely theoretically, but somehow managed to actually screw me in real life.
You really need to document this entire nightmare for our entertainment as a warning to other. Seriously, there will likely be some eye-opening shit.
Who knows? You might be invited to be on The Independerts to tell your story.
Tell the case worker that you support the TEA Party and that you think Block Yomomma is America's worst president in history and a general lowlife piece of shit.
Wait, on second thought, don't do that; you might end up on an assassination list. I'm sorry, I mean the "disposition matrix".
You need to go to the local news with that story. Seriously.
Apart from all the ObummerCare drama, I hope everything goes well with your wife and the little bun in the oven.
Thank you Jesus.
The court also declined to consider a case challenging the Secret Service's practice of keeping protesters far away from the president at public appearances.
The Nazgul are ever-deferent to the He who wields the One Ring.
President Barack Obama wants to keep nearly 10,000 troops in Afghanistan after the withdrawal of forces at the end of the year.
Soon Afghanistan will be like Germany, fearing the blow to local economies if US forces ever hint at leaving for good. Right?
New York Police Department officers will start carrying nalaxone, a drug that helps reverse the effects of heroin overdoses.
Are there a lot of ODs in the NYPD?
It's not as fun yelling STOP RESISTING to a corpse.
Haha! I meant ON the force.
How dare you question the President? If he says we're withdrawing, we're withdrawing. There's no sugar coating it. Period.
Clearly this shows a level of racism in libertarians that should not surprise anybody who's read anything about those Koch-fellating klansmen.
There's no sugarcoating it: the troops might forget a desk or two behind when they withdraw.
There won't be a smidgen of US troop presence left behind.
Pregnant Pakistani is stoned to death by her family outside courthouse over love marriage
LAHORE, Pakistan ? A pregnant woman was stoned to death Tuesday by her own family outside a courthouse in the Pakistani city of Lahore for marrying the man she loved.
The woman was killed while on her way to court to contest an abduction case her family had filed against her husband. Her father was promptly arrested on murder charges, police investigator Rana Mujahid said, adding that police were working to apprehend all those who participated in this "heinous crime."
Arranged marriages are the norm among conservative Pakistanis, and hundreds of women are murdered every year in so-called honor killings carried out by husbands or relatives as a punishment for alleged adultery or other illicit sexual behavior.
Damn!
It's okay. Pakistan sucks and all, but what are we goingto do about all these rapes on college campuses?
At least she didn't face an atmosphere of constant sub rosa misogyny.
A sick joke - she was microaggressed...one rock at a time.
I think anything larger than gravel is macroaggression.
So these people are anti-abortion, right? So they basically aborted what they consider a baby because of the sins of the mother. That's some grade-A rational policy right there, that is.
Wikipedia, but:
Wish our holy book had set a hard date. Could have saved people like me from a lot of pointless blathering.
If everyone would just listen to the God-directed edicts of the Holy Father, we could live in peace.
the names of Americans the government is spying on
That list had better jolly well not include Dianne Feinstein!
*better not*
Argh.
*** leaves for coffee ***
Actually if Glenn wants real action to come out of his reveal, then he'd probably be best served by dividing the list into "important people" (e.g. Congressmen and hollywood celebrities" and the "unwashed" (the rest of us plebes).
That might actually get some serious action started. By which I mean a Twitter hashtag campaign. Once you start one of those fuckers up there's no going back until you get JUSTICE.
#MyNSA
A Soldier's Tintype Photos Of Afghanistan Show The Timelessness Of War
The shots are great, and the specific coloration tintypes have and the modern garb and equipment is an interesting combination.
Direct link to photo gallery (don't worry Ted, it's not a slideshow).
It's nice to see everybody's first thought is whether a badly-designed page will piss me off. 🙂
Seriously, interesting photographs.
Or a pedant will respond with a correction to a POORLY designed witty retort.
That is fantastic.
French fried pataters. Mmmm hmmm.
Also, as a guy who has done therapy, is on Wellbutrin, has had some psychological issues (mostly depression and anxiety. Apparently, my body doesn't process folic acid correctly, and that leads to anxiety, but if it goes untreated long enough you get an anxiety disorder additionally)... thanks a lot, Elliot. In fact, thanks a lot everyone who goes on a mass killing spree and everyone's first instinct is to call them crazy!
It is shit like this that makes the stigma against mental illness and receiving help for it so difficult to fight. Because when you say you've struggled with mental illness or mental health issues, especially as a male, everyone thinks you're one missed medication away from following a dog's orders to kill 20 children (and yes, I'm purposely mixing incidents).
On a somewhat related note: This is why I am so annoyed that Mental Health Awareness Week takes place in October, meaning that no one pays attention to it because BOOOBIEZ!!! and WAR ON WIMMENZ!!! aka the Breast Cancer Awareness Industrial Complex. It wouldn't have stopped this kid, whose therapist should have their license pulled, but just in general I'm a big believer that a lot of people could probably use an hour or so a week at some point in their life to work through their shit.
Is...is your dog named Sam?
No, but my neighbor's dog is. Nice pooch, but he has these weird, glowing eyes.
Did he tell you to make him a steak? Made of people?
Yeah, once.
Mostly we just make small talk about how other dogs' butts smell.
Does Wellbutrin help with cravings? My doctor suggested it because my diet is so shitty. I get incredibly strong food cravings.
It's supposed to. Also to stop smoking, but I picked that up in the last year and don't intend to quit anytime soon (it's really the social aspect- because you're forced to stand around outside with other smokers, and everyone gives you nasty looks, you bond pretty quickly).
But yeah, it's supposed to work on dopamine stuff, which reduces cravings.
Would...would it stop my cravings for cocaine?
Get vaccinated!
And stop living in the goddamned '80s.
That article made me very, very sad. Now I'm going to go watch some Miami Vice.
I'm sure this part of the article is you appropriate:
The really fun thing is that some studies in this area have shown addicts will continue ingesting huge amounts of cocaine to try to get a high, or switch to more dangerous drugs and end up really fucking themselves over.
Only the 12 Steps Can Cure Addiction!*
*This message brought to you by the Council of JESUS CHRIST NOT THIS BULLSHIT AGAIN
It is prescribed for people with a history of stimulant use.
You would probably find a way to use it to get even more high, though.
One of my buddies started it last year, and his drinking is down by about 90%. I consider that a negative side effect.
It is commonly used against nicotine cravings in smoking cessation. I've never heard of it used for food cravings specifically, though there is ongoing research into using it for weight loss.
Anything to stop me from wanting buffalo wings for breakfast.
Wings, like pizza, are a perfectly fine breakfast food.
Actually, I don't really get the idea of eating specific things for specific meals. I have nothing against it, I just don't understand why it became the standard way of eating throughout so many cultures.
My guess is superstition. "You need a hearty breakfast" etc etc.
My concern is that I fold and eat them for breakfast, I'll want them for lunch and dinner too.
Thanks a lot, now I want buffalo wings.
Trying to teach meal names to Korean students:
Me: What do you have for breakfast?
Class: RICE!
Me: Umm, sure. What do you have for lunch?
Class: RICE!
Me: *sigh* What do you have for dinner?
Class: FISH AND RICE!
Me: *throws flashcards in the air and walks out*
No kimchee?
Have you eaten? in Korean is basically "Have you had rice yet?"
Kimchee and other banchan are just sort of assumed, but aren't considered a staple the way rice is (even though they're eaten with as much frequency).
Breakfast foods are typically quick to prepare. That's about the only difference, as far as I can tell.
Because when you say you've struggled with mental illness or mental health issues, especially as a male, everyone thinks you're one missed medication away from following a dog's orders to kill 20 children (and yes, I'm purposely mixing incidents).
Dude, a word of advice: DO NOT DISCLOSE THAT TO ANYONE EVER.
Well, he might want to let his therapist know.
I prefer the good old-fashioned "evil" label for mass murderers.
Glenn Greenwald has revealed the next big bombshell that will come from Edward Snowden's National Security Agency documents: the names of Americans the government is spying on.
The list of names of people NOT being spied on is probably a lot shorter.
Feinstein, Diane
Holder, Eric
Obama, Barack
That probably covers it.
Alexander, Keith
Clapper, James
You really think the Chief Megalomaniac trusts those undergoons that much?
Well, evidently the no-spy list also included Snowden, Edward.
Earlier today, somebody wrote a comment speculating that the UCSB douchebag had schizophrenia (I think the word "clear" was used or something similarly confident).
While it is correct that schizophrenia often shows up when men are in their twenties, his behaviour doesn't really match up. The "schizo" in schizophrenia means "split", as in "split from reality" (though not, contrary to popular belief, split personality).
It is often characterized by delusions, hallucinations, hearing voices, disorganized thinking, etc. In contrast, the killer's writings are quite lucid -- it's mainly that he shows a staggeringly low amount of empathy.
Just sayin'.
Yeah. The complete lack of empathy and the being read as creepy could be a number of diagnoses: Sociopathy comes to mind, although he'd have to be a shitty sociopath (the good ones are crazy good readers of people. They also don't tend to be killers so much as con men or people who work in jobs where empathy will fuck you over), as does autism/aspergers.
But really, I hate how this is all being blamed on "crazy"/mental illness. Can't we as a society just accept that some people might be simply evil? For example, whatever happened to Osama Bin Laden to make him what he became, I don't think the guy was crazy or mentally ill- I think he was evil.
I have mixed feelings about the concept of "evil", but generally, I agree.
The fact of the matter is that people with mental disorders generally don't do shit like this. If they did we'd be fucked.
Some of us can do that just fine. Others have a desperate need to pin the blame on their pet cause, or lack of their pet cause, and will not shut up about it no matter what.
Can't we as a society just accept that some people might be simply evil?
Sure. There are a lot of them in Washington DC.
Can't we as a society just accept that some people might be simply evil?
I don't know...the way I see it, "evil" people are generally trying to fulfill some sort of goal or objective, and are simply uncaring about innocent people who may be hurt in the attempt. They act out of what is ostensibly self-interest--take the example of a bank robber. He wants money. Pretty much everybody wants money--most of us don't rob banks to do it because we respect the law and don't want to hurt people. The bank robber just doesn't care about those things, and that's evil.
Rodgers's actions cannot rationally be linked to any sort of self-interest. Killing a bunch of people was at best going to make him a hunted man and at worst going to get him dead, but this act in no way solves the problem he was attempting to resolve. The evil bank robber just wants the money, and killing people is a means to that end. What was Rodgers hoping to achieve by a killing spree? "Crazy" is the word we loosely apply to people who act on something with no rational motivation for doing it, that's why it gets slapped on someone like this guy.
A sportswriter looks into why, how, and how to fix the fact that baseball games take so....fucking....long.
Seriously, I like baseball, but for 162 games, I want the average game to be 2.5 hours, 3 hours max.
And now official reviews are making it longer.
Yankees-Red Sox games are notoriously long especially in the playoffs because the hitters all go deep in the count.
Just saying.
Make the pitchers hit and see what happens.
Fuck the DH.
... Hobbit
The last baseball game I went to was 1-0 and was over in just over 90 minutes. It was beautiful.
I've yet to see a sport that isn't too fucking long. Well, except for some of the Olympic events.
My tolerance for the length of many games is getting lower and lower as I get older. I mean, come on, hours? I've got other things to do.
I would suggest soccer, generally over in 2 hours.
We were talking about sports, CPA.
Pro football. Jesus Christ. I'm supposed to spend how long every fall Sunday watching the team I like be terrible? Fuck the NFL.
Basketball is the worst late in the 4th quarter. It takes 30 minutes to play out the last minute because of all the TO's.
And fuck you Reason for not fixing this continuous squirrel posting problem. Do you fricken realize how annoying it is to type a comment only to have it disappear into the 5th dimension?
And fuck you too.
-Reason Magazine Senior Platform Engineer, S.Squirrel
One joy of the NFL season is telling my wife "look honey, it says 35 more seconds. I Will mow the lawn after that."
Awesome...the NFL can't tell time.
Yes, but this season will be about what happens off the field for you. I love how he went partying with one of the more infamous partying players in the NFL.
I think the thing that saves football is that it is basically one day a week, so you just chill at a sports bar and get buzzed for 6 hours on a Sunday.
I think the push for Thursday games, as well as any other day of the week they may decided to add (Monday nights suck but they are an institutional hold over from the days when it was the only way to see out of market teams) is going to kill them.
No one wants to see the Jaguars play the Raiders on short rest in a game that was going to suck anyway.
I still argue baseball season should be cut by 60/62 games, or at least 30.
That, or they go back to having the leaders at the end of the season winning the pennant. Playoffs only in the event of a tie. Or, if not that, at least get rid of the wildcard.
Moving Houston to the AL West means we will continue to be tortured with long baseball seasons and playoffs.
How about kicking Houston back to the NL, shrink to 4 divisions, and go back to how the playoffs were prior to 1994 (but we would still need to cut 60 games)?
I thought it was okay when they had two divisions in each league. Kept the season mostly meaningful.
I think all the sports could use some contraction. I mean, there are 2 Florida Hockey teams. 2!
For baseball, I think you could safely eliminate the Padres, and let their fans choose either the Angels or the Dodgers. The Nationals and the Orioles are a bit redundant as well. And yes, I supposed you could make Chicago and New York choose just one team to keep, but as a Mets fan I must oppose this idea on principle.
Basketball could safely eliminate or move the Bucks and the Kings (seriously, does California need 4 fucking basketball teams?).
Football could eliminate the Jaguars, because Florida doesn't need 3 teams. The Rams should be moved back to Los Angeles. The Titans could be moved/eliminated.
Those are just some initial ideas.
I still cannot believe that some people in the NHL thought that taking a team from Winnipeg, Canada, and putting teams in Arizona and Florida was a good idea.
82 games in hockey is too long as well. I'd cut it by at least 10 games. Hockey in June just doesn't do it for me.
NBA too. I have no interest in watching indoor sports when the weather is warm.
Batter can strike out on a foul tip. And a pitch clock. Those are my two changes.
Hitting a batter means he's out, not walking.
Maybe a wall ball-like rule? You try to hit a batter and he dodges or catches, you turn around and he gets a free throw at you.
What happens if the batter hits the pitcher?
...did you ever play wall ball?
Pitch clock, yes, strike out on a foul, no. 9-pitch at-bats are actually exciting and suspenseful, a pitcher taking 15 minutes to throw 4 pitches not so much.
Replace pitchers with machines. That pitch every five seconds.
I thought a foul tip already could be a strikeout if it was caught by the catcher?
Yes
It's an out of it's caught before it hits the ground in the same way any other batted ball is an out if it's caught before it hits the ground. Doesn't matter how many strikes the batter has or who catches it.
Not true. A foul tip on a 1-0 count that is caught by the catcher is strike one, not an out. Basically, if the catcher doesn't have to move then a foul tip is treated like a regular ol' strike.
A foul tip on a 1-0 count that is caught by the catcher is strike one
Gonna need serious citation on that one. Any ball that leaves the bat that is caught before it touches the ground is out.
... Hobbit
From mlb.com the official rules.
With less two strikes, the ball must rise above the batter's head in order to record an out ons caught ball. With two strikes, if the catcher holds the tipped pitch, it's a strikeout.
- MLB Rules 2.0: Definition of Terms
Note that this means a runner need not tag up on a foul tip. It's treated just like a swinging strike where the batter completely misses the ball. A runner may even steal on a foul tip.
If it's caught by anybody.
Yes.
Oops.
Only with 2 strikes, though.
Can;t you just stop watching and let the free market figure it out instead of mandating all these additional regulations?
We're not suggesting forcing anything on MLB, so this is the free market.
How dare you bitch about the length of Yankee/Red Sox games!
What are you gonna do about it?
Throw proggy Cuomo or Patrick at me?
Tivo and fast forward. Problem solved.
Ive done this. It works.
Works great for football and basketball too.
A football game takes 2 hrs to watch. About 2x the clock time. For GT games, I make sure it is recording, then walk away for an hr and catch up to real time usually mid 4th quarter.
Steve Perry singing again
Cliche, I didn't notice your comment until the morning links were dead. I've done BJJ for four years or so, and it's quite enjoyable. Give it a try. Just be sure to not be a filthy bastard or you'll get ringworm.
Part of me wants to google BJJ, part of me is afraid........
It's sweaty men hugging each other. You'll like it.
Fat sweaty men? Japanese sumo videos only work so well.....
*Puts BJJ into Google, closes eyes, hits enter...slowly opens one eye*
Whew, ok.
Blowjob job?
That's an advanced technique.
I saw that too and also recommend Hopkido if it is possible to find a school where you are, Cliche.
I did BJJ at Rigan Machado's school for a few years, but it closed, and I never picked it back up.
Thanks Y'all...got a promo thing for a BJJ place so was looking into it. I am slow and out of shape though. Not sure how much this will hurt.
It'll hurt a bit until you figure out you're not supposed to be using your strength.
I'm thinking of framing SugarFree for a spree killing just to see what the media makes out of the Warty stories.
All that recent horsemeat hoo-ha turn your stomach? You won't believe what the Romans tucked into?
Yum Yum.
None of that seems really that gross. Blood pudding, fish sauce, organ meat, and roasted bird.
Romans ate deep dish?
Larks' tongues. Otters' noses. Ocelot spleens.
In aspic.
RACIST!
"Jaguar's earlobes! Wolf-nipple chips! Get them while they're hot; they're lovely!"
None of that seems really that gross. Blood pudding, fish sauce, organ meat, and roasted bird.
The description for Garum just makes me ill. I mean, why not just eat poop? blech.
Ever hear of Worcestershire sauce?
This. Or Nam Pla. We've never stopped using fermented fish sauce.
Yes. That is completely different.
/sarc
I was actually surprised to learn that the disgusting-sounding garum wasn't entirely absent from Western cuisine.
Supposedly, Thai fish sauce is the closest modern analog to garum.
Whoa, don't diss poop around here. That's likely to get you labeled "weird".
Too late.
I'd try all of those at least once.
Revolution eats its own as gay groups target pro-gay marriage professor
Basically, because his argument might support conservatives, he must be silenced. Two points:
1) Gay rights activists are starting to be the biggest barrier to legal gay marriage. And even if nationwide gay marriage is achieved, I think that the gay rights activists are going to ultimately going to do more harm than good to LGBT people
2) I'm starting to think that John is completely right: There can be no compromise with progressives. They are totalitarians and even if you agree on one issue, you set yourself up for failure by working with them.
John is right about #2.
Basically, because his argument might support conservatives, he must be silenced. Two points:
1) Gay rights activists are starting to be the biggest barrier to legal gay marriage. And even if nationwide gay marriage is achieved, I think that the gay rights activists are going to ultimately going to do more harm than good to LGBT people
2) I'm starting to think that John is completely right: There can be no compromise with progressives. They are totalitarians and even if you agree on one issue, you set yourself up for failure by working with them.
2) I'm starting to think that John is completely right: There can be no compromise with progressives. They are totalitarians and even if you agree on one issue, you set yourself up for failure by working with them.
The gun people figured this out decades ago. It's not an accident that the NRA is the most hated of all the Left's hate figures.
Ha, this ties in a bit to the RuPaul story I posted below:
Paul seems to be really hung up on Animal Farm. Most of the twattle responses have been supportive.
When will this canard fucking die?
In an open letter to the professor, [students Greg] Lewis and [Stephanie] Montenegro said that while they respect Laycock's right to academic freedom, ...
... they actually don't give a shit about it at all.
Pork DNA in Malaysian chocolate prompts boycott by Muslim groups.
Nice.
Because bacon in anything is delicious?
No it is pork...
Though I think they put pork in bacon as well.
+1 Sepoy Rebellion
Cynical me suspects that some enterprising cop will plant some as evidence of involvement with heroin trade or usage.
Cynic!
Off topic (can you be off topic in the PM links?): Going to Vegas for the first time in July. It's for a bachelor party. Everyone else there will be 10-15 years younger than me. Skipping the nightclubs because I'm way too old for that shit. What show shouldn't I miss (besides Penn & Teller, which I have to go to)? And how to not die of heatstroke in Vegas in July?
Chill at the Caesar's Palace pool area. The best part of Vegas, in my opinion (yeah, I'm boring).
I posted a longish reply that the squirrels ate.
In short:
The Flamingo had the best looking dealers.
"Absinthe" was wildly offensive and hilarious.
You are correct to stay away from the clubs. No gin and tonic is worth $19.
I hear Celine Dion's show is great! And Brittany Spears has a regular gig now too!
I tried to get my wife to go to Celine, and she called me a fag. I don't care. If liking Celine is gay, I don't want to be straight.
Having met your wife I find this story both entertaining and plausible.
I think my mom was annoyed that my dad was so entertained by the Celine show in Vegas, but then again, everyone I know who has gone says it's impressive even if you aren't crazy about her music.
I'm going to tell her your feelings were hurt.
I also taught her to yell that out the window at aggressive male drivers. Something about a cute, petite girl yelling that makes men really uncontrollably angry.
Re: Celine
Like her style or not, she has one of the best vocal instruments in history, and I wanted to hear it live.
And from what I've heard, she always gives 100% at every show.
I'm gay and you breeders can keep her.
Unless it's about who got the first comment, no.
Vegas is fun on any budget. Any yeah, I don't do nightclubs.
Save a night for just walking around the strip. Check out the Bellagio fountains, get some porn fliers, etc.
I haven't been since I was just starting high school. Wasn't old enough to do anything then. When I feel like dropping a lot of money I think I'll go back and see what's there to be had.
That's pretty much what I did the one time I've been there--that, and checking out some of the natural stuff around there, which was pretty cool.
Yep. Hoover, Red Rock Canyon, Lake Mead... All interesting stuff.
Even though you're going, Penn & Teller's show is excellent. I saw them here and enjoyed the show thoroughly.
O is fantastic and required.
Walking among casinos is designed to A. keep you gambling (not gamboling you bastards) and B. keep you gamboling (HA didn't see that coming did ya) while in AC.
I like to eat and Vegas ranks up there with NY and Paris for me. Try the Bellagio buffet to say you did but there are better. Bally's Sunday Champagne brunch. Zefarino's Seafood brunch used to be great...heard it is no longer though.
Drink everywhere...if you don't have a drink in hand you are violating several laws. Go to Hoffbreau Haus...cause. Don't ride shit at top of Strat, just dont do it.
Play poker at the Horseshoe but not for too long.
I've done the Bellagio buffet maybe 10 times. One of those times, I just ate Chilean Sea Bass. Probably over $100 worth.
Yep. Chilean Sea bass is MUCH better than Patagonian Toothfish.
Stock up at Gun Runners and then clean out Vault 3.
There's an Indian Reservation a few miles outside of town towards AZ that also sells items of interest.
I'd recommend the Gun Store, even if you're not that into firearms. You get your own range instructor and they have plenty of different packages (there's even a zombie one with targets that come complete with accessory brains). I'd get there early in the day, though, unless you don't mind waiting in line. The line actually wasn't too bad. Met some guys from Europe...apparently shooting those evil American guns is quite the attraction for those from the Continent.
Second on Absynthe and O by the way. And Penn and Teller are awesome.
RuPaul wins my heart, will probably be flamed by the left for it.
The clip is 6 minutes, but consistently excellent. Paul compares the grievance-mongers to the pigs in Animal Farm. "They secretly just wanna be Farmer John."
Why is it always the Pauls?
TFIBHAW
Oh wow, that was some amazing shit. Good for him.
"Words hurt me!"
"Bitch, you need to get stronger."
Maybe they should squat more.
I love that movie.
Ever seen the movie "But I'm a Cheerleader"? RuPaul is awesome in that. I should watch that movie again. Been a few years.
And that's an awesome statement. And she's already been flamed for it.
Love But I'm a Cheerleader I think I have it on DVD someplace...I wonder if I have an optical disc player somewhere.
LOGO apparently tried to put some distance and she responded with:
I may actually have to suck it up and start watching Drag Race at this rate. I'm clearly missing out on some awesome.
This was a great tweet from RuPaul:
I'm more "offended/hurt" by the misuse of the word "community"
I watched "The Outsiders" (the Francis Ford Coppola film) yesterday. I found the homoerotic undercurrent both unbelievable and slightly disturbing.
I think the only thing I remember from that is they bleached their hair blond and one of them says "stay gold ponyboy"
Welcome to SE Hinton. Rumble Fish much?
(I had a fifth or sixth grade teacher that absolutely loved Hinton, so we got read all her books by him that year.)
SE Hinton's a man??? I thought that fucking book was written by a 13 year old girl.
What's the matter, steroids make you deaf? You'll be back, but only in a rerun.
Ah, I read a "to" in there that wasn't there. Too bad they didn't they teach you how to write in guido school.
"They didn't they". Fuck, I'm not doing so good here.
Okay, just for fun, I always thought those books were written by some fucked-up guy. Didn't know it was a woman until today. Not a fan, so I didn't much pay attention to who wrote what or in what gender role.
Maybe you should squat more.
That movie was pretty sweet, actually. I had a lesbian friend in college who got me to watch "Imagine Me and You" because it was her favorite romantic movie.
It's basically about a chick who after her wedding to her best (male) friend falls in love with the florist or cake maker or something (who is female).
I at the end was like, "Yeah.... but what about the poor guy?" I mean, he's portrayed as a legit loving, good guy who genuinely cares for this girl, even if their romantic chemistry may not be great. So, yeah, that wasn't fun as a straight guy to see.
Long story short: But I'm a Cheerleader was way less of a gut punch.
Aww, I like Imagine Me and You.
For the expediency of it ending on a happy note, he's free to finally follow his dreams and ends up meeting a pretty lady right at the outset of an adventure he wouldn't have had had he been trapped in what was essentially a dead end relationship with a closet lesbian.
The other woman in Imagine Me and You is Cersei Lannister. So there's that.
Just watch Chasing Amy for the 180% opposite experience, if I remember correctly.
Before you were there to distract her, my mom went through a "I'm feeling left out of my adult children's lives" phase.
I narrowly dodged having to sit through Chasing Amy with my mother after she heard my older sister and I talking about it. Hearing my mom go "wow they did a great job capturing what it's like to be on drugs" while watching Trainspotting was bad enough.
What about the guy? He married a lesbian. What about him?
Did he get a threesome out of the deal? If not, then "gipped".
My best friend from college grew up there, and he always gave me good behind the scenes tours. We even went snowboarding once. A place called Lee Canyon, which I believe has since changed names.
I drove at high speeds through some totally empty land that I think might've been an Indian reservation. I went to some painted something--can't remember the name. Very isolated.