French Police DNA Test 527 Students and Staff Members in High School Rape Case


In France, police have seen fit to DNA test all male students and staff—527 individuals in total—at Fenelon-Notre Dame high school in La Rochelle as part of an ongoing sexual assault investigation.
The "DNA dragnet," as the AP calls it, comes after months of failed leads into the September 30, 2013, rape of a female student in a high school restroom. Though police recovered DNA evidence from the victim's clothing, they turned up no matches in the country's extensive DNA database.
DNA testing at the girl's Roman Catholic high-school started on Monday and will likely last through Wednesday. Prosecutor Isabelle Pagenellen said that no one had yet refused to give a DNA sample—perhaps because she'd warned that anyone who did would be considered a suspect and may be detained.
"The choice is simple for me: Either I file it away and wait for a match in what could be several years, or I go looking for the match myself," she told the Associated Press.
U.S. authorities have a less aggressive policy toward prosecuting rapists, notes Allie Jones with some dismay at The Wire. This is true, and thank goodness: While there are a lot of valid critiques of the way sexual assault case are handled in America, demanding the DNA of anyone in the vicinity of an assault is not something to emulate.
Students and staff at Fenelon-Notre Dame may be going along with the tests, but not all are doing so happily. "It's disturbing to have to do the test, it's bizarre," one student told The Local. Defense lawyer Joseph Cohen-Sabban told French newspaper Le Figaro that the situation was "ludicrous" and "a truly unacceptable abuse of process." Refusing to give a DNA sample when not in custody is a right, he added.
French courts rarely order mass DNA tests, and those that have occurred generally targeted specific categories of people. According to France24.com, the only previous time blanket DNA sampling was conducted in France was in 1997 in response to the murder of visiting British teen Caroline Dickinson. French police tested more than 400 local residents the following year. Dickinson's killer, who was later arrested in the U.S., was not among those tested.
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I suggest testing Warty first.
Good one, then the lab would be left as naught but a smoldering ruin!
Why only test humans? What about STEVE SMITH?
STEVE SMITH VOLUNTEER TO TEST RAPE ALL SUBJECTS!
3 cheers for the inquisitorial civil law judicial system!
No one expects the French Inquisitorial Justice System!
Their chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear.
Their two weapons are surprise and fear... and ruthless efficiency!
among their weapons are such diverse elements as:
- fear
- surprise
- ruthless efficiency
- and an almost-fanatical devotion to the Pope Jerry Lewis
Hey HM, I have a linguistic question for you. Would two words with the same phonemes but different tones be considered homophones?
What do you mean by "tone"? Tone can be phonemic, or not - depends on the language.
As in the 4 (technically 5) tones in Mandarin.
For example, "buy" and "sell" in Chinese are both represented as "mai", but one is 3rd tone, one is 4th tone.
It's a little murky. They are technically not homophones but even the Chinese consider them that way when it's convenient. They might be written with similar but slightly different characters, for example.
Thank you sir!
Ugh, I hate those types of word pairs! In Thai it's "near" and "far", with the falling tone and mid tone respectively. I believe they did this intentionally to confuse potential foreign invaders. (Not really)
And it gets worse when the tones change in various circumstances, at least in Mandarin (I dunno anything about Thai).
Yeah, Thai doesn't have the tone sandhi that Mandarin has, thank goodness! Similarly, tone is clearly marked by the Thai writing system, so if you can read the word, you know which tone it takes.
homophones
Gay basher!
That's a good question. If we're speaking of a tonal language, I would not identify them as homophones because to a native speaker they wouldn't "sound" the same. I would argue that for native speakers of stress-based languages, we conceptualize tonemes as being placed on top of phonemes. However, for a native speaker of a tonal language, the toneme is an inherent part of the phoneme. (A toneme is usually defined as a type of phoneme, anyway). From my personal observation, it wouldn't occur to a native speaker of Thai, for example, that /maa/ with a rising tone (dog) is a true homophone of /maa/ [high tone] (horse) any more than we would consider "too" with a period to be a different lexeme than "too" with a question mark...if that makes sense.
Gracias!
I must repeat myself!
several languages...knowledge of music...knowledge of literature...knowledge of...knowledge of... you're an interesting man there's no doubt about it
Let me know if you feel like taking Aqaba.
And what could possibly be wrong with this? All men are rapists by nature because "rape culture" commands it.
If Warty is a man then all men are Warty.
But not all cocks are Doomcocks.
Warty possesses the Anti-Life Equation. When he looks at you, it is with six billion eyes. When he grabs you, it is with six billion hands. And when he rapes you, it is with three billion penises. Nothing like Warty has ever come among you: Nothing will again.
Warty is Darkseid?
Makes absolute sense.
But they still get guaranteed paid vacation if they ever find a job from which they then can't get fired, right?
While there are a lot of valid critiques of the way sexual assault case are handled in America, demanding the DNA of anyone in the vicinity of an assault is not something to emulate.
I'm pretty sure I just heard that blood chilling shriek from Body Snatchers eminating from the Jezebel sector.
So what happens in France if you tell the inspector to fuck off and come back with a court order if they want a DNA sample? Assuming they don't have anything like the BoR.
They throw down their weapons and surrender on the spot?
Made me laugh.
Uh....The only first hand account I have had of the French police is that torturing detainees is not legal but if you get arrested and they think you are uncooperative.....they will make you talk.
Why do they need to test everyone? Does she not have the slightest idea what the rapist looked like? Surely she got at least a vague sense of age, race, build, height, etc. Why not show her pictures of the male faculty and students and at least get her to narrow down the suspect list?
Maybe the rapist took her from behind so she never got a look at him.
But, yeah, that question occurred to me, too.
In France, Irreversible is a documentary.
Well, if she can't possibly identify the person, then what if it was a transvestite who is playing a woman in real life? And if so, that person is home free because they are only testing males.
And I'm sure that DNA testing of the transsexual community constitutes some sort of hate crime anyway.
Could have happened in the dark?
I wonder if the gays are being tested too. "Rape her?? Eewwwww!"
Are they using minnows or squid?
Prosecutor Isabelle Pagenellen said that no one had yet refused to give a DNA sample?perhaps because she'd warned that anyone who did would be considered a suspect and may be detained.
I trust Madame Prosecutor and all the investigating detectives submitted to the swab.
Have they questioned pepe le pew yet?
Someone get Inspector Clouseau on this stat.
Hi, France. You're a shithole.