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Anything Not Permitted Is Forbidden: Code Camp Edition

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Learning to code is the future for today's emerging labor pool. Even President Barack Obama says so. But more important than learning how to code is learning that it's illegal for anybody to do anything at all without the permission of the appropriate government agency.

In California, the Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education (BPPE) is going after "coding bootcamps," specialized private code training programs. VentureBeat reports:

These bootcamps have not yet been approved by the BPPE and are therefore being classified as unlicensed postsecondary educational institutions that must seek compliance or be forcibly shut down.

"Our primary goal is not to collect a fine. It is to drive them to comply with the law," said Russ Heimerich, a spokesperson for BPPE. Heimerich is confident that these companies would lose in court if they attempt to fight BPPE.

Heimerich stressed that these bootcamps merely need to show that they are making steps toward compliance: "As long as they are making a good effort to come into compliance with the law, they fall down low on our triage of problem children. We will work with them to get them licensed and focus on more urgent matters," Heimerich said.

VentureBeat notes, "The bootcamps fear that they will go bankrupt as regulatory processes can take up to 18 months."

But we need that oversight as fraud prevention, right? Without the government's protective regulations, people will be bilked out of their life savings and end up in debt, unlike those students at major public universities who come away with valuable degrees in art history or what have you. Beyond that weak logic, government oversight doesn't stop private education programs from occasionally failing miserably anyway.

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  1. They are just building the infrastructure necessary for a future where 2 + 2 = 5.

  2. focus on more urgent matters

    Like what?

  3. I did a lot of that type of training between 2006 and 2012.

    1. Beer camp?

      1. Porn camp…..

  4. Let me guess. How can we possibly trust these experienced coders to teach coding without an advanced degree in Educratical Science?

  5. You know who else tried to run camps where people concentrated?

    1. Ms. Choksondik: Now Kyle, I need you to be quiet. In my class, you need to be able to concentrate. Concentration is the key to succeed in my class.

      Cartman: Maybe we should send him to a concentration camp. Oh! Dammit, dammit, dammit!

      Kyle 2: Cartman!

  6. Freedom means asking permission and obeying orders.

    1. I do so love the Guiliani Protocol.

  7. “Our primary goal is not to collect a fine. It is to drive them to comply with the law,”

    OBEY

    Like the guy the other day who wants to regulate bitcoin (right out of existence, I suspect), these people LOVE innovation, just as long as they still get to control everything.

    1. In other words, RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!

  8. wait, what? I read the blurb in morning links, and assumed it was about bootcamps, like, the kind that beat the crap out of kids to make them obedient.

    What the hell?

    The progs really are going full anti-technology, full conservative, full luddite.

    It’s going to be great seeing my prog-techie friends start squirming. Or put on brown shirts. Either way.

    1. Or put on brown shirts.

      Don’t even start. 🙁

  9. I hope they go after hacker spaces for offering unauthorized public classes.

    Anyways, what the fuck are the regulations they are supposedly not in compliance with?

    1. Likely not submitting mountains of irrelevant paperwork and a substantial fee to get a license.

      1. Making sure all instuctors go to sensitivity training.

  10. there really are no ends to the reach of FYTW, are there. And these fuckers say what they say with dead earnestness.

  11. How is this any different than someone giving piano or dance lessons, teaching a course about the constitution, showing your neighbor your carpentry or plumbing skills, or learning watercolors at the Senior Center? But then, I guess, there are all sorts of entrenched businesses trying to lobby against those activities too.

    1. Somebody must be profiting from these bootcamps, and to a proggie, that is simply unacceptable.

    2. With the exception of learning watercolors at the Senior Center, I suspect everything you mentioned is illegal without first getting some kind of license.

      Remember that you’re not free unless you’ve asked permission and obeyed orders.

    3. I can just about guarantee that if you offer a private course on the Constitution you’ll be on a watch list.

    4. SHUT UP!!! JEEEEZ, NOW THEY’LL GO AFTER THEM TOO. How about those unlicensed Bible study groups? These unlicensed teachers are everywhere, teaching God knows what, without the all-knowing guidance of Our Dear Leader….Horrors!

    5. SHUT UP!!! JEEEEZ, NOW THEY’LL GO AFTER THEM TOO. How about those unlicensed Bible study groups? These unlicensed teachers are everywhere, teaching God knows what, without the all-knowing guidance of Our Dear Leader….Horrors!

  12. What’s more important for them to go after?

    Bible Studies classes offering unlicensed post secondary education in Theology?

    Book clubs offering unlicensed post secondary education in literature?

    Chess clubs offering unlicensed post secondary education in game theory?

    Reenactment societies for offering unlicensed post secondary education in History?

  13. From the comments:

    Jeremy Wagner-Kaiser bibleverse1 ? 2 days ago ?
    Based on the fact that BPPE exists, there have clearly been issues with postsecondary education in the past. That this particular vocational school happens to teach basic coding doesn’t make it different.

    It exists, so it must be necessary

    1. Yes, the “issues” were almost certainly that there was the potential for new postsecondary schools that might provide competition for existing postsecondary schools.

  14. But there was one man who taught us to code, to storm the wire of the camps, to smash those bureaucratic motherfuckers into hamburger. He turned it around. He brought us back from the brink. His name is Connor. John Connor. Your son, Sarah, your unborn son.

  15. Stack Overflow better watch its butt.

    1. That site has saved me many times. My dream is a world where comp sci classes can take the place of a foreign language requirement.

  16. Does anyone know if the Khan Academy gets similar harassment?

  17. From the comments :
    “People acting freely and voluntarily with one another have been one of the biggest threats to other people’s well being throughout human history. ”

    That’s enough California for one day.

    1. I hope that comment is sarcasm.

      1. Don’t bet on it.

      2. Don’t think so :

        Wow, talk about naive faith. Are you seriously arguing that there wouldn’t be more traffic deaths if there wasn’t a government with the powers of the state to enforce traffic laws?

        People acting freely and voluntarily with one another have been one of the biggest threats to other people’s well being throughout human history. If you’re going to hold forth on this kind of thing you should really acquaint yourself with the rates of murder and violent death in pre-state societies. I recommend starting with Steven Pinker’s The Better Angels of Our Nature.

        1. Control freaks are a broken record.

        2. you should really acquaint yourself with the rates of murder and violent death in pre-state societies

          I have, they’re lower than mega-state societies.

  18. The speed with which they grabbed their ankles is disheartening. Last I’d checked, there were 49 other states outside California and these services were web-based.

  19. what they call a code camp is actually a newsletter with subscriptions.

  20. I thought the expression was, ‘everything not MANDATED is forbidden”.

    sands coercion, the point seems meaningless.

    1. SANS!! SANS!

  21. “In California, the Bureau for ….._________”

    you had me @ Califonia.

    Uber Alles.

  22. You obviously don’t understand. Without proper inspection, how can we be sure that such schools don’t hire people with funny foreign names to train future terrorists in cyber-sabotage?!?

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