2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner Barack Obama's Ultimate #Humblebrag: He's "Really Good at Killing People."
From Business Insider:
This will not go over well for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner.
According to the new book Double Down, in which journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann chronicle the 2012 presidential election, President Barack Obama told his aides that he's "really good at killing people" while discussing drone strikes.
Peter Hamby of The Washington Post reported the moment in his review of the book.
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Andrew Breitbart concurs.
And Michael Hastings.
Look, a little murder without due process is absolutely nothing compared to citing a source but not properly quoting it. Jesus Christ, get your priorities straight, people.
I believe OM has an entire write-up ready to go about how Obama's books are entirely ghost written.
Imagine all the composite girlfriends jokes you'd be hearing for years (fuck, decades) if Obama was a Republican.
He had binders full of them!
Re: Sudden,
I don't need to - Ayers pretty much corroborated the story.
Do you mean this clip from a 2011 speech at Montclair University? Because he seems to be sarcastic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfIZDYm0a54
Let's do a lexis search in a couple days tallying the number of articles about the Obama comment v the Paul speech.
Aren't all murders without due process?
If you like your ice cream cone, you can keep it.
If you like your life, you can keep it.
Halperin must have gotten tired of that Morning Joke gig.
I imagine the news commentary tomorrow will be an attack on the authors for their insensitivity or some such.
Just checked HuffPo. Rand's plagiarism story is front and center. This story is nowhere to be found.......
Well, they have no problem with "killing people" as long as it's the "right people" (c.f. Mass Murderer cum Psychopath Che).
I think they would have a problem with killing Che.
Apparently the right people are 16 year old American citizens.
Apparently the right people are 16 year old American citizens.
I didn't want to believe, so I checked and sure enough it's nowhere to be found in the politics section.
Instead we got RAND SNAPS OVER PLAGIARISM ACCUSATIONS
MICHELLE BACHMANN: 'I'M A LOSER'
HOW THE KOCH BROTHERS ORCHESTRATED THE SHUTDOWN
and
ALREADY? HILLARY PICKS UP 2016 ENDORSEMENT
Priorities, everyone!
Marching orders have been given, and will be followed. It's the pathetic partisan sheep way.
RAND SNAPS OVER PLAGIARISM ACCUSATIONS
There's a food stamp joke in there somewhere.
Holy shit you're stupid. Just when you seem like you can't get stupider, you outdo yourself. Well done.
Wow, this Nobel Peace Prize business is really blowing up in the committee's faces.
That Obama is dynamite at the whole war-making thing.
Looks like the Nobel committee really bombed it with this choice.
Get it? Cuz it's like the guy who invented the Nobel Prizes also invented dynamite, so I made a bunch of jokes related to that fact.
Did you guys get it? Cuz I can make dumber jokes if not.
Arafat, Kissinger, and Teddy R. were already embarrassing choices.
Do you really need to DRONE on and on about this?
HAHAHA! Did you see what I did there? Didja? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Yep:
"RAND SNAPS OVER PLAGIARISM"
Look at those dweebs. Their main priority is destroying any and all Rs. They have no ideological consistency or any sort of ranking system for scandals. To them, plagiarism is a bigger scandal than the taking of human life. Look, Rand is in the wrong on this issue. It's true. People have a right to criticize him for it.
The coverage though, shows an utter lack of some journal outlets to pick and choose appropriate battles. You'd sooner see "Republican doesn't hold door for person behind him" than "Obama says he's good at killing."
Republican doesn't hold door for person behind him
You have too little imagination.
Republicans slam shut the door of opportunity.
There was actually a meme last year about how the garbage man that serviced Romney's neighborhood felt unappreciated by Romeny - who never hugged him, didn't leave cookies or even give him a christmas present.
That was a real story in the 2012 presidential race.
Ummm...yeah.
Ive never considered doing any of those things for my garbage men.
Who would?
How the hell could you even do any of those things? Leave a plate of cookies sitting on top of your garbage can?
It's not like they have personal cargo space on the garbage truck.
Leave them a couple of hotel bar bottles of cognac taped to the side of the can with a Christmas card to show you care. What was the movie that is from? Drawing an entire blank, only person I remember being in it was Patty Hearst.
At least Joe Biden never was guilty of plagiarism.
Alright, I take it back, partially.
Huffpost is covering the Obama quote, way below the Rand headline:
Well it seems I don't know how to link something.
Try again:
WTF.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....08815.html
Braved into the comments...
Oh my.
There are a few things that I saw repeated:
1. BOOOSH!!
2. He didn't really say it/it was out of context
3. The only people who will criticize him on this are hypocritical, warmongering republicans and BOOOSH!!
I guess to be a superuser, or whatever, over there all you have to do is pretend to be shriek in your commenting.
So, the leftist analogue of what Reasonoids are saying about RandP's copypasta in the thread below?
So, the leftist analogue of what Reasonoids are saying about RandP's copypasta in the thread below?
Umm, sure, in the sense that pointing out how absurd and histrionic it is to make a "plagiarism" scandal out of using a footnoted case study in a book is analogous to excusing a president awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for bragging about how good he is at killing people. Uh, yeah. Just like that.
I just read that whole thread and it is nothing like what you said.
Jesus christ Tulpa.
Except the "plagarism" consists of improperly referencing source material. The material is sourced, only not directly in the passage. And that's something you think is akin to bragging about murder?
Ha, the Bills just scored a touchdown on the Chiefs. Excellent. Ruin that undefeated record, Buffalo.
shut up
You shut up! Damn it, the Chiefs just intercepted and ran for a touchdown where the Bills should have jammed it in. Fuck.
And KC limps into the lead. All of their points are off off BUF turnovers.
More T.O. points!
23 - 13 chiefs... No, you shut up.
9-0 Chiefs!!!!
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Uh, they have 6 division games and play against the NFC East just like everyone in the AFC West does. Onion FAIIIIL.
As a lifelong die hard Chiefs fan, this feels great.
Tuel's now thrown two touchdown passes.
Well, it had to be said, but great to have it said by the person it is about.
You can't hold this against Barack Obama. The man is good at everything, even things he hates doing. Now can we get another Nobel up in this hizzy?
He's even good at making retarded statements about how he's good at killing people by ordering that someone remotely fire a drone missile! Is there anything he can't have ordered done?
A functioning web site?
+1 Lack of functionality
But he's good at killing people! That's a positive, right? Right?!?
"President Barack Obama told his aides that he's "really good at killing people" while discussing drone strikes."
He's absolutely beaming with pride...
Can't wait to buy the t-shirt with his mug and the quote below it.
That was by design. Everyone's talking about website functionality, no one is talking about the fundamental flaws in the law.
But they will be. It's already started with the grandfather clause totally being a parade of fuck yous.
A functioning web site?
He didn't build that.
For at least four years now I've kept thinking that nothing could make me hate this man more than I currently hate him, but something always pops up to help me reach new levels of hatred. Can you imagine if Bush ever said something like this? Progs would blow a gasket.
Much as I'd love to jump on BO for that quote, there are people in the world whose deaths advance peace. The person who killed Hitler would be deserving of a Peace Prize, for instance.
And then there are the 16 year old kids and civilian casualties.
Yeah, that is a problem. But that's probably not who he's talking about.
"The person who killed Hitler would be deserving of a Peace Prize, for instance."
Yeah, and then there's the guy who ordered the killing, basking in the glory of getting others to kill for him, and bragging about it amongst his cabinet and cronies.. A true credit to humanity, and "peace prize" material all the way...
Hitler? That's the person that killed Hitler, and you say he deserved a peace prize? No wonder people think you are a Nazi.
probably
Yeah, that is a problem. But that's probably not who he's talking about.
Lol.
"Yeah boss, sure you could just narrowly focus on the embezzlement, but look at what a great job I did on all these other accounts!"
So Hitler should get the Nobel then?
The person who killed Hitler would be deserving of a Peace Prize, for instance.
So, Hitler?
That's So Hitler!
No, a hypothetical person who killed Hitler.
What if the hypothetical person was Hitler?
Hitler wasn't a hypothetical person.
But what if, hypothetically, Hitler killed Hitler?
Hitler killed Hitler factually, not hypothetically.
So factually Hitler should get the Nobel?
Hitler invented dynamite, so I don't see why not...
Its a shame that portions of a thread can't play yakity sax.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9I4nZx8UCs
Holy shit tulpa. You stepped in it.
EVA BRAUN?
(it was a double suicide right? perchance they did that 'you drink out of my cup, I drink out of yours' thing)
Two dictators, one cup?
Stalin with the Assist?
Yeah, but an awful lot of the people he has killed are not the type of people whose deaths advance peace.
"The person who killed Hitler would be deserving of a Peace Prize, for instance."
So, Adolf Hitler should posthumously receive a Nobel Peace Prize? Well, I guess if Barack Obama got one.....
Unless you want to get really existential about it: perhaps the world would have been even worse without Hitler.
And, of course, if you killed Hitler prior to late-1938 you would be known in history as the terrorist who caused the collapse of Germany into 2 years of civil war followed by a couple of decades of military oppression.
I'm guessing that the world would have turned out a lot better without Hitler. I mean, really ... one of the most evil sociopaths of the century, and you think the world was IMPROVED by his presence? The hell?
I know. I get all existential on a Sunday. I imagine Stalin running all of Europe for 20 years.
+1 Command & Conquer: Red Alert
That is a good point. The Weimar liberal democrats were utterly moribund in the early 30s; the alternative to the Nazis was the German Communists.
Still, it would be awfully hard for them to top what Hitler did.
"Still, it would be awfully hard for them to top what Hitler did."
Stalin did a fabulous job of slaughtering his people, and people in countries he imposed himself upon, and the early thirties was the peak of the Checka/NKVD blood orgy. After the war, the East German communists killed quite a few people themselves, and the STASI was universally loathed. Hitler was a blood-thirsty butcher, but good old Uncle Joe could of taught him a trick or two... now, about a Soviet/Stalin friendly communist regime in Germany.. you were saying?
"The person who killed Hitler would be deserving of a Peace Prize, for instance."
So . . . Hitler?
Are you fucking retarded?
I hardly think Hitler deserved a peace prize.
Well in tulpa's defence, Hitler didn't kill Hitler, the evil gun did.
"Much as I'd love to jump on BO for that quote, there are people in the world whose deaths advance peace."
You mean the sort of people who would brag about how many people they've killed?
That picture always reminds me of Peter Tork in Head.
You know what it means if you say the president reminds you of a Monkee?
That you get an Emmy for Lifetime Achievement.
I remember the monkey scampering controversy.
You're making Baby Joe from Lowell cry.
You right-wingers really crack me!
Nothing will ever measure up to Bush! Obama is just trying to fix Bush's mess! He spends less and the stock markets are up and Bachmann is still crazy! And the Koch brothers are making him do it.
Duh.
/insert left-winger of choice.
Koch-Bush! Bush-Koch!
Show us in the Bush where the Koch touched it...
A speaker for the White House stated that Obama did not know that people had been killed.
OK, now I'm getting a "Terry McAuliffe: In Bed With the Homosexual Lobby" ad on this page.
Not the best strategery, Cooch.
Obama has two Grammy for spoken-word performances. I think that's much better than a Nobel Peace Prize. When do you predict he'll pick up his Oscar. I suspect a Medal of a Freedom, shit, he'll make Audie Murphy's ghost jealous.
"Medal of Freedom": if HRC wins in 2016, I suspect that will happen before 2020.
"Heckuva job, brownie."
Look at all the awards Gabby Giffords received for *getting* shot
Wow, Pinkskins. Just wow.
The Nobel Peace price should be like Kickstarter. First, we give you the Nobel Prize, then awe check up on you after 4 years and see if you've lived up to your promises, and if not, we get the Nobel Prize back.
Hazel, that would be RACIST.
Man, for someone who posts at a website called "Reason"....
As a lifelong pacifist traumatized by his younger brother's death by explosion, I'm sure that Alfred Nobel would have loved the dickens out of this recent development.
Not to mention Krugman.
there are people in the world whose deaths advance peace.
TICKING TIME BOMB
So you don't think that a nonexistent person who killed Hitler should have gotten the Peace Prize?
Should the actual person who killed Hitler get the prize?
President Barack Obama told his aides that he's "really good at killing people" * while discussing drone strikes.
* i.e. Really good at "ordering the military?who are bunch of bitter-clingers that hate his guts?to kill people for him"
Watch out, we got a badass over here!
You're all getting it wrong. It's whistle words for the Jewish vote/warchest.
And the women answered one another as they played, and said, Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands. And Saul was very wroth, and the saying displeased him; and he said, They have ascribed unto David ten thousands, and to me they have ascribed but thousands: and what can he have more but the kingdom? (1 Samuel 18:7-8)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.u.....69581.html
Curious if libertarians agree with this.
To me it's more left-wing gibberish.
Who gives a shit whether or not someone wears a poppy on Remembrance Day?
Then again, I've been known to wear white on Labor Day...
Avoid Kathleen Turner.
Actually, it is "thou shalt not murder". The Torah is quite clear that killing is justifiable in cases of self-defense, warfare, and capital punishment.
Which is a pretty friggin huge exception, as the Israelites started wars at the drop of a turban and capital punishment was prescribed for dozens of crimes.
And YHWH utterly contradicted himself when he ordered them to exterminate every Canaanite, man, woman, or child once they gained control of the land. Sounds like murder to me.
Religion of peace my ass. The Jews were warlike for centuries, up until the Romans exiled them, and immediately started being warlike once we gave them Palestine back. They're only nice pacifists when they're not in control.
Not that Europeans or Arabs or anyone else in the world is any better -- we in Christendom have our own long long record of atrocities.
Jews were more victims than conquerors during their long history. If anything they were pawns for Christian and Islamic power as victims of pogroms and persecutions for long swatches of history.
The Jews were warlike for centuries, up until the Romans exiled them, and immediately started being warlike once we gave them Palestine back.
Yeah, the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the Six-Day War, the Yom Kippur War... It's Jewish aggression all the way down...
Fucking cowboy and his cowboy diplomacy.
Yippie Ki-yay mother trucker.
Probably believes that he pulled the trigger on Bin Laden too. Stupid SEALs. Hogging all the glory.
You know, I really have to ask, what kind of sick f**k makes a boast like that? I mean, I can see someone making the case that, in the business of nation states, it's sometimes necessary to kill people who you consider threats. But, for anyone other than a sociopath, that sort of thing is something you'd have done with and never bring up again, if nothing more than for the sake of your own conscience.
"President Barack Obama told his aides that he's "really good at killing people" while discussing drone strikes."
Now, such a claim in such a book is always questionably N-th-hand, so I won't take it as gospel.
But I can at least half imagine President Obama saying it.
I can't even comprehend G.W. Bush saying that.