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The Fast Emergence of Obamacare Fraud

Scam artists have seemingly found a friend in Obamacare.

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Scam artists have seemingly found a friend in Obamacare.

Reports are emerging that shysters are using Tennessee residents' relative lack of knowledge about the new health care law to defraud them.

Scam artists, for example, are making calls claiming they need Social Securitynumbers to sign people up for a new Obamacare insurance card, according to a statement from the Tennessee Department of Commerce and Insurance.

"We've been made aware of one scam, in particular," said TDCI spokeswoman Kate Abernathy.

"One of our navigator agencies let us know that there was an individual calling people saying that he or she could have walked him through the application process for $100 for a navigator certified application counselor service, but that information is completely incorrect. That is a free service that is supposed to remain free."

The federal government, along with the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, began sending out advisories against possible fraud related to Obamacare many months ago, Abernathy said.

"There are scammers out there who are calling around and saying 'All right we need yourMedicare number. We need to update your profile.' A Medicare beneficiary can hand over that information without thinking about it — and they've just given a criminal their Social Security number," Abernathy said.

As previously reported, TDCI implemented registration requirements and criminal background checks on people who serve as Obamacare navigators or certified Obamacare application counselors in Tennessee.

Such people are responsible for handling the financial or medical information belonging to other individuals.

Strangely,  last month, mainstream media outlets such as the Washington Post seemed to condemn Tennessee and other states for implementing these policies, saying they were getting in the way of progress. 

"There is a very palpable concern .?.?. that anti-Obamacare state government people will find ways to gum up the works," the Post quoted Leonardo Cuello, director of health reform for the National Health Law Program, as saying.

Last week, a federal judge issued a temporary restraining order against the regulations, claiming they might penalize librarians or health care workers who helped someone sign up for Obamacare.

Despite the ruling, Abernathy said anyone who handles another person's personal financial or medical information is still subject to the regulations.

This article originally appeared on Watchdog.org.

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  1. As if the fraud of Obamacare itself isn’t enough.

    1. The bright side, it is “creating” more jobs than predicted.

  2. 3:49:29 pm]: Thanks for contacting Health Insurance Marketplace Live Chat. Please wait while we connect you to someone who can help.
    [3:49:33 pm]: Please be patient while we’re helping other people.
    [3:49:42 pm]: Welcome! You’re now connected to Health Insurance Marketplace Live Chat.

    Thanks for contacting us. My name is Amanda. To protect your privacy, please don’t provide any personal information, like Social Security Number, or any other sensitive medical or personal information.
    [3:50:09 pm]: CALLER
    Hi Amanda! I just spoke with Janeen and she wasn’t very helpful. I’m hoping you can assist me.
    [3:50:38 pm]: Amanda
    I’ll be happy to help you!
    [3:50:51 pm]: Amanda
    What can I do to assit you?
    [3:51:30 pm]: CALLER
    While visiting this website I’m kind of having an identity crisis. I was hoping you could answer the following question: Who owns me?
    [3:53:15 pm]: CALLER
    I mean I have this concept of self-ownership, right? Like my mind has control over my limbs, I move and act and use reason to guide my life. But now, the Federal Government is telling me that this is not true. The Government is telling me that THEY own me. Doesn’t that make me a slave? Haven’t we outlawed slavery? I’m really confused.

    1. [3:54:09 pm]: Amanda
      Even though we can provide you with information about the Marketplace, we cannot give our opinions or advice about your health care options. We can provide you with the facts and help you understand your choices. If you need additional support, you can reach out to the consumer assistance programs within your state.
      [3:54:37 pm]: CALLER
      No no, this is about the marketplace not my own personal health.
      [3:55:18 pm]: Amanda
      Do you have any other Marketplace questions that I can help you with?
      [3:55:22 pm]: CALLER
      This marketplace is a de facto statement that someone else owns my body. It’s about the re-institution of slavery in this country, right? What’s your opinion of Social Contract theory?
      [3:55:54 pm]: Amanda
      We cannot give our opinions or advice about your health care options.

      1. [3:56:06 pm]: CALLER
        This isn’t about my health care options Amanda.
        [3:56:34 pm]: CALLER
        This is about philosophy. Please don’t skirt the question.
        [3:56:46 pm]: Amanda
        Sir/Ma’am, I will be happy to help you with this situation as it pertains to the Marketplace. However, if you continue to use this type of language I will have to end this chat.
        [3:57:07 pm]: CALLER
        Show me that I’m wrong, that I’m not your slave. I don’t think my language is offensive.
        [3:59:08 pm]: Amanda
        Sir/Ma’am, I will be happy to help you with this situation as it pertains to the Marketplace. However, if you continue to use this type of language I will have to disconnect this chat.
        [3:59:52 pm]: CALLER
        Amanda, this situation directly pertains to the Marketplace. Your marketplace is a slave marketplace, correct?
        [4:00:18 pm]: Your chat session is over. Thanks for contacting us, and we hope we’ve answered your questions. Have a great day.
        [4:00:18 pm]: 10/17/2013

        1. Drone strike in 3…2…1

        2. Perhaps you can make a bot that does this, repeatedly.

        3. After reading this Amanda just did give me a great day.

        4. If you really did this, this is possibly the greatest post in Reason history.

          1. It’s real. Second time I did it this evening, was just having some fun. I’ll try again later and try to be more convincing.

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    2. I mean I have this concept of self-ownership, right? Like my mind has control over my limbs, I move and act and use reason to guide my life. But now, the Federal Government is telling me that this is not true. The Government is telling me that THEY own me. Doesn’t that make me a slave?

      All that self-ownership privacy stuff only relates to abortion. Then, it’s our body. Everything else is fair game? Why progtard progtard right to privacy in bill of rights derpy derp.

      (I’m always amazed that progtards we can find a right to privacy in the bill of rights, but not a right to bear arms.)

  3. An open-ended, dysfunctional mandatory government program that affects millions is leading to scams?
    Tell me how this is possible in our glorious day and age.

  4. It’s easier and faster to scam someone with Obamacare than it is to sign up for Obamacare. So far, it’s a net loss.

  5. Right, because there is never fraud on private sector enrollment websites. You need to try harder in order to discredit ObamaCare.

    1. Not really. Private sector enrollment sites WORK. Unlike Obamacare exchanges.

      See? That wasn’t hard at all!

    2. When there is “fraud” on private-sector websites, you can almost instantly finger a hacker.
      When there is fraud in government, you can blame bureaucracy and incompetence.

    3. What did that strawman ever do to you?

    4. I know he’s a troll but he’s sort of on to something. Scammers are pretty inventive an opportunistic. They’ll seize on any big event in their efforts. OC could have been rolled out flawlessly and you’d still have a lot of successful scams going related to it.

    5. M N G|10.17.13 @ 8:03PM|#
      “Right, because there is never fraud on private sector enrollment websites.”

      Right, because fraud is never caught in for-profit orgs, while those oh, so dedicated pub-serv life-forms will jump right on it.
      Hey, MNG, you haven’t gotten any smarter in your absence.

    6. Obamacare doesn’t need anything but Obamacare to discredit itself…if you can’t see that best head back to safer environs like fluffPO.

    7. You’re right. I will handle it exactly like I would with the private sector.

      I will cease to do business with those incompetents, and I will instead use one of the many, many alternative web sites.

      Oh, wait. I can’t. And there aren’t any.

  6. Ya know, I’m definitely at my wit’s end with the old system and I expect obamacare will be far more answerable to the people than old health insurers.

    http://thebitterconsumer.wordp…..l-waiting/

    1. thebitterconsumer|10.17.13 @ 9:51PM|#
      “Ya know, I’m definitely at my wit’s end with the old system and I expect obamacare will be far more answerable to the people than old health insurers.”

      Yeah, over in the other thread you spent long posts proving that you’re full of shit.
      So, while I’m sure you’re at the end of whatever wit you have, I’m also quite sure that your opinion is that of an ignoramus.

    2. You have a blog on wordpress? I’m impressed (golf clap).

    3. I expect obamacare will be far more answerable to the people than old health insurers.

      Realizing, of course, that the exact same health insurers are the ones from whom you will be actually purchasing insurance, so that if you need customer service, you’re going to be contacting the EXACT SAME FUCKING PEOPLE. Only now they’ll have many times more customers who had to purchase insurance with a gun in their back, making the logjam that much worse.

      1. I’m sure they’ll be offering much better customer service, now that people are subsidized and taxed into buying their products. People have high standards when it comes to coerced customers, and people who get shit for free.

    4. You’re complaining about being put on hold.

      Have you ever called the government? Ever? To do anything?

      I have to call a certain government agency right now for my work. Every single time I call, I am placed on hold. Then, I a transferred to her voice mail. I leave a message. I’VE LEFT A MESSAGE EVERY DAY FOR ABOUT 3 WEEKS AND I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A REPLY YET. THIS IS FOR WORK. THIS IS PART OF HER JOB, AND MINE.

      If your experience with government agencies is so small, and your imagination is so light, that you really can’t imagine how a government program could be worse than getting put on hold for some relatively small amount of time, then you have a lot to learn, and I would suggest learning it before educating everyone with your blog.

  7. This is good: Turns out HealthCare.gov is using some open source code with the copyright notice stripped out. They didn’t have time to optimize the Javascript, but they had time for that….

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  9. I have a excellent policy through my full time employer, I have major medical and everything else and I carry my 8 year old son on my policy also and he has about the same in coverage, I make too much money for any type of welfare and have for the past ten years, I get all this for 54 bucks every two weeks, there is no comparable policy on the open or even private market and especially the govt that can even begin to compare in value. I very carefully went to a govt healthcare site and without signing up I got a comparison done that wasn’t all the way equal to what I have but they were wanting me to pay slightly over 800 dollars a month with a 13000 dollar deductible(you pay this first before insurance pays 100%) there is no way im going to pay that. I understand that they can not get enough healthy young people into the system, which they say that these healthy young people who hardly ever go to the doctor for anything major anyway, will be required to pay higher premiums than anyone else in order for them to be able to finance this whole Ponzi scheme, shameful, this is just out right robbery by the govt and the govt is wanting the irs who are well versed in placing liens on homes bank accounts and hauling off people to jail already so hey half their job is from experience. And the supreme court had to change the wording and definitions around to make it seem legal, and try to include it into the commerce clause,

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  13. “There is a very palpable concern .?.?. that anti-Obamacare state government people will find ways to gum up the works”

    Now we have people worried that state government workers who are against Obamacare, will sabotage the roll out? Since when are government employees sabotaging government efforts?

    This looks like a lame attempt to blame others for Obama administration failures, and in this case they are blaming people who work for Obama. But instead of people committing illegal acts that benefit him (like the IRS harassing Tea Party groups, or sharing of personal IRS information with the White House), they claim others are committing illegal acts to hurt him.

    We now Obama supporters claiming that rogues in government are breaking the law. Let’s see him prosecute one before we believe him.

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