Holder: There is No Intel Suggesting Americans Were Involved in Nairobi Mall Attack


Kenyan Foreign Minister Amina Mohamed said earlier this week that "two or three" Americans of Somali or Arab origin who lived "in Minnesota and one other place" were among the militants who attacked the Westgate shopping mall in Nairobi last weekend. Mohamed also said that one British woman was involved in the attack. Al Shabab, the Somali Al Qaeda-linked group, has claimed responsibility for the massacre.
However, yesterday Attorney General Eric Holder said that "We don't have any verifiable information that would indicate one way or the other way that Americans were involved."
From UPI:
At least 67 people were killed in the attack that began last Saturday, including a nephew of President Uhuru Kenyatta and his fiancee. Kenyatta attended their funeral Friday at a Nairobi church, giving a eulogy.
Al-Shabaab has alleged Americans were involved in the attack but U.S. investigators in Kenya said they have not found any evidence to support the allegations, NBC News reported.
"We don't have any verifiable information that would indicate one way or the other way that Americans were involved," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Thursday.
The fact that Holder said that there no "verifiable" information suggesting that Americans were involved in carrying out the attack in Nairobi will not change the fact that the attack has highlighted that Americans have joined Al Shabab in the past and has put some in the Somali-American community on the defensive.
Shortly after the attack Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), who has expressed concern about Al Shabab recruitment in the U.S. before, said, "I would assume that the FBI and local law enforcement are looking into those Somalia-American communities today … using all their sources and resources to make sure there's no follow-up attempt here in the United States."
Unsurprisingly, leaders of the Somali-American community are working on repairing their community's image, despite the fact that the identities of the militants in Nairobi have yet to be released.
From Minnesota Public Radio:
The Somali terror group al-Shabab has claimed responsibility for the assault on the Westgate shopping mall, and Kenyan officials have said "two or three" Americans were involved. But FBI officials say the agency has yet to confirm the names and nationalities of the attackers.
Under the spotlight, Somali professionals in Minnesota are raising awareness about the challenges facing young Somalis -- while trying to repair their community's image.
When asked how al-Shabab appeals to young men whose families came to Minnesota for a better life, Abdul Mohamed said the targets are often vulnerable.
"Al-Shabab, as a terrorist organization, they're very good at what they do," said Mohamed told reporters today. "They tell these children there's a better life for you, and they use religious justification to back their recruitment efforts."
More from Reason.com on the Nairobi mall attack here.
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I didn't think so until I heard that Holder was denying it.
Exactly. These guys have burned their credibility so far down, I assume that they are lying whenever they make a statement.
I mean, they don't bother speaking unless they have something to lie about, right? Has Holder ever made a completely verifiable and true statement?
I think he one time a reporter asked him, "What's for lunch?" and it turned out to be true. But I may have just read that on the internet.
Possibly.
He might have said "I am going to f**k you in the a**."
Does Holder issue such warnings?
Is he on the DL, too?
Well, if his victim is bound and can't get away. The extra terror in the eyes makes it just that much more of an experience for him.
Are you sure? See, I suspect Holder is allergic to telling the truth. It's a disability, see, and the administration--by law, mind you--must make reasonable accommodations for his condition. Like they do with other members of the administration, like the president.
Every word Holder says is a lie, including "and" and "the".
"We don't have any verifiable information that would indicate one way or the other way that Americans were involved," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Thursday.
Anyone else think that's kind of a strange way to phrase the denial? (Besides Pro Lib, I imagine.) Perhaps I'm being overly nit-picky. (That's not racist, is it?)
It is odd. I bet they do suspect some U.S. involvement but don't want to say so. They also don't want to look like they've totally ruled it out, in case they're later shown to be wrong.
Transparency FTW!
Yeah, that ship has sailed.
In that spirit, you may enjoy: The committee's chairman [said] "people need to know the exact lapses in the security system that possibly allowed this event to take place".
As opposed to "The system worked."
There's no intel suggesting Holder knows what he is talking about. I want a second opinion.
*Note to self: Read first comment before commenting.
So I second PL.
We don't have any verifiable information that would indicate one way or the other way that Americans were involved,
either there were Americans involved and Holder is lying or Holder is an epic imbecile. There is no reason to put out a statement with that many weasel words. Just say "we don't yet know" you fucking retard.
http://www.theguardian.com/med.....ican-media
Obama and the scum bag media have now forced me to agree with Seymour Hersh. God I hate those people.
That reminds me -- Whatever happened to Sharyl Attkisson?
She is still at CBS doing stories that the rest of the media ignores and embarrass CBS.
So ... the new Andy Rooney? š
Only a lot hotter.
Oh, so now everything has to be "verified," huh? There was no "verifiable intelligence" that Obamacare would work, but did that stop them? Or that Tea Party groups are "racist" or going to violate IRS rules.
Pro Libertate is correct: this is just Clintonian, CYA-as-long-as-possible weasel-wording.
By the way, those with weak stomache will not want to read the details of the attack. Apparently the terrorists tortured and mutilated the hostages. Allahu akbar!
Uhh, really? I think you're missing the obvious retort:
There was no verifiable intelligence that the embassy attack in Libya was in response to a crappy video.
Wow, Holder must really be off his game today. I'm sure there's some Youtube video we can blame the Nairobi Mall Attack on.
Some Congresstard will be along shortly to blame it on the sequester.
Shortly after the attack Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), who has expressed concern about Al Shabab recruitment in the U.S. before, said, "I would assume that the FBI and local law enforcement are looking into those Somalia-American communities today
I'm sure Peter King also favored the FBI's looking into Irish-American communities that supported NORAID?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Reason headline: Holder: There is No Intel Suggesting Americans Were Involved in Nairobi Mall Attack
Eric Holder, as quoted above: We don't have any verifiable information that would indicate one way or the other way that Americans were involved
Note the difference between "suggesting" and "verifiable information" (which the article highlighted, just not the headline).
He's not denying anything "suggests" it, just that none of it is verifiable (at this time) - which seems plausible; it's recent and on another continent, and verifying such things (rather than spot-checking for plausibility) takes time.
It's fine to suggest it's plausibly likely that American were involved, sure. I'd agree it's plausible, and wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it turned out to be true.
Just don't quote the man as saying something meaningfully different from what he said.
THese guys seem to know whats going on Wow.
http://www.Got-Privacy.com
Shit; if Holder were to proclaim that the sun was expected to rise tomorrow morning, I'd immediately go out and stock up on flashlight batteries.