Zero Tolerance

Students Suspended For Playing With Pellet Gun in Own Front Yard, One Mother Called Because It Made Her "Uncomfortable" to See a Boy Point a Gun She Knew Wasn't Real

Face expulsion for playing in one of their front yards

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i'll call 911, she thought
WAVY

WAVY, the NBC affiliate in Hampton Roads, Virginia asks "has zero tolerance gone too far?" as it reports this story:

A suspended seventh grade Virginia Beach student will find out soon if he is expelled for the rest of the year for shooting an airsoft gun.

Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo's private property.

Aidan's father, Tim Clark, told WAVY.com what happened next lacks commons sense. The children were suspended for possession, handling and use of a firearm.

The "fire" in firearm, of course, refers to gunpowder, which a pellet gun doesn't have. Six children were playing in the Caraballo front yard all together, and the school suspended three it said had discharged the "firearm" near the school bus stop. The school found out about the kids playing around because a neighbor, the mother of one of the children not suspended, called 911. WAVY tracked her down:

She confirmed Khalid was taking target practice using a zombie hunter airsoft gun to kill the zombies.  There was also a net behind the target to catch the plastic pellets. 

The caller also knew the gun wasn't real and said so, "This is not a real one, but it makes people uncomfortable. I know that it makes me (uncomfortable), as a mom, to see a boy pointing a gun," she told the 911 dispatcher.

The students' expulsion hearing was today.

More Reason on zero tolerance here.

UPDATE: Khalid and Aidan have been expelled suspended for the rest of the year.

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  1. Hear Ye Hear Ye the age of the castration of the American male is underway.

    1. is well underway. Bloody poor writing on my part

      1. I think it works.

      2. my best friend’s aunt makes $67 an hour on the laptop. She has been fired from work for 5 months but last month her pay check was $13328 just working on the laptop for a few hours. try here

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  2. She confirmed Khalid was taking target practice using a zombie hunter airsoft gun to kill the zombies. There was also a net behind the target to catch the plastic pellets.

    The caller also knew the gun wasn’t real and said so, “This is not a real one, but it makes people uncomfortable. I know that it makes me (uncomfortable), as a mom, to see a boy pointing a gun,” she told the 911 dispatcher.

    I’m at a loss to think of a suitable karmic punishment for the caller.

    1. Hysterical PLUS she’s forgotten to use her birth control at least once? Iron-clad case! Her every whim must be catered to!

    2. How about being charged for filing a false police report?

      1. Or, exactly what NoVAHockey said below.

    3. What a fucking CUNT.

      1. Yep. Gotta call a spade a spade, or, as in this case, a cunt a cunt.

    4. i was surprised they even had a catch for the pellets…some squared away boys. He is even wearing eye pro…good kid

      1. My 11-year-old son and his friends play with AirSoft guns all the time. It’s amazing how harmless they are. They shouldn’t even be referred to as “pellet guns” — I remember some of those being more like BB guns, and you could get a welt on your leg if someone shot you with one. Airsoft guns shoot little hollow plastic balls — I doubt you could shoot one through a piece of paper.

        1. THEY’LL TAKE AN EYE OUT!

          *clutches pearls*

        2. Because they’re not pellet guns (and obviously not firearms either). They are a toy that is meant to be aimed at other people as part of a game, like a less messy version of paintball…

          Pellet guns can be used for hunting and killing things, and the .177 lead pellets my pump pellet/BB rifle shoots go up to 1200 fps. http://www.amazon.com/Gamo-Sil…..B0024XEXQS

          The only reason I have one is that it is illegal go after vermin with a .22lr in my town and most others.

          1. If your airsoft pellets aren’t injuring people, you obviously aren’t firing enough of them.

            MORE DAKKKA!

    5. I’m at a loss to think of a suitable karmic punishment for the caller.

      Start off by naming her.

      I presume the student has a 6A right to know who his accuser is.

      Every time we hear about “bullying” or “cyberbullying”, cases like this ought to be held up: incidents where people have no qualms about using the State to bully other people they don’t like, and where this is considered perfectly reasonable by a substantial section of the population.

    6. Well, if that kid is expelled, he’ll have many months to think up ways to make her life a living hell. By Spring Break there shouldn’t even be a foundation where her house now stands.

    7. Executed at dawn by a firing squad.

      1. Equipped with airsoft rifles.

    8. Choke to death on her own vomit while she shits herself?

    9. Eaten by zombies while her well-trained and properly prepared neighbors stand idly by, refusing to acknowledge her constant screams for help?

  3. Kids are lucky to get booted out of that school.

  4. In a sane world the cops show up and cite her abusing the 911 system

    1. In my libertopia she’d be executed on the spot as a message to other statists.

      Or something.

      1. A duel with the other parents might suffice.

      2. Please! Just make her write a letter of apology to the kids, their parents, and to the editor of the local newspaper.

    2. In a sane world, I wouldn’t have gotten arrested detained (I was in handcuffs in the back of a cruiser) for playing street hockey on an unoccupied tennis court in Hampton Roads. They said we were disturbing the peace when there wasn’t another person in sight except the two teams and the six cops.

      1. There are several tennis courts near my liquor store. Big sign on the fence. NO SKATEBOARDING, ROLLERBLADING…

        So, of course, they go completely unused. At least I’ve never seen anyone using them, and I’m at the liquor store a lot.

        …A LOT.

      2. Only six cops? Your story is suspect.

        1. Must have been a 2 on 2 game…

  5. “This is not a real one, but it makes people uncomfortable.”

    I would say that somebody needs to learn how to handle being uncomfortable.

    1. I would say that that particular somebody needs to be made even more uncomfortable.

    2. If people are allowed to wear sweats or this new trend with the young people wearing pajamas outside the house because it makes them comfortable, we are a society that caters purely to comfort.

  6. Tragedy of the commons?

    Is Lucy back?

  7. They got suspended for performing an entirely legal action on their own property. Is that even legal?

    Wait, “Khalid” and “Aidan”? OMG MUSLIM TERRISTS

    1. Aidan is a Gaelic name, so he’s clearly not a Muslim terrorist.

      He’s IRA.

    1. Subheading:

      Has zero tolerance gone too far?

      Is this even a question?

      1. Yes, but it’s a damn stupid one. Zero tolerance is too far by definition.

        1. We should just reduce the phrase to ‘zero’. Because there is no tolerance anymore.

    2. Let’s not even pretend this was a legit complaint, if misled, and not in fact vapid neighbor bitch’s revenge for some petty slight in her ongoing feud with one or all of her neighbors.

  8. Ya know, they call them airSOFT guns for a reason. And, jeebus on a crutch, she called 911 solely because she felt uncomfortable? I was stuck in frickin’ hideous all-day meeting last week, and I was uncomfortable as hell. Guess I should have dialed 911.

    1. Snark aside, yes, you should have. If you don’t nip that hideous all-day meeting shit in the bud now, and I mean right the fuck now, peeps begin to think that shit is ok, then… anarchy.

  9. it makes me (uncomfortable)

    So what happened to suing? She is uncomfortable, she ought to sue. If she gets tossed out on her can for filing a frivolous lawsuit then she would know where she can stick the ‘uncomfortable’ line.

    1. Or she could have tried having a conversation with the neighbor to come to some mutual agreement.

      1. Conversations suck. I suggest she keep her fucking mouth shut.

        1. Seriously? How would that conversation even go? “I noticed your delinquents in the yard playing. Could you please make them stop? They’re scaring me.”

  10. Please let the 911 caller be white. Then this will actually get some attention.

    1. Duh she’s white. Or, let’s put it this way, the chances of her not being white are about the same chances that a serious injury could have occurred by the airsoft gun firearm.

  11. The town in South Korea I lived in had an annual “Assassin’s Game” where everyone went out and got airsoft guns (no orange tips since there aren’t real guns in Korea to confuse them with) and you were given a target and sent out to kill kill kill. If you killed your target they gave you the basic info on the next target until the circle closed and one person was remaining. I will say seeing little old Koreans running scared from some of the dorky English teachers brandishing fake guns was funnier than it should have been.

    1. Love it. You’ve made my evening.

    2. Believe it or not, that was a somewhat popular game on college campuses in the late 80s. Yeah, that’s how much this country has gone down hill in a mere 25 years.

      1. Played this in college in the 00’s but it was with water guns instead of air soft.

      2. I got set up after killing 3 RAs.

        It was a conspiracy.

        I still had the most kills when the game ended.

      3. I RAN a game at my high school in 1981, and we had teachers participating.

        -jcr

      4. We played with BB guns in my fraternity after nights out drinking. The rules were that we were only allowed to wear shoes, snowboard goggles, and underwear (as many pairs as necessary to protect the jewels).

    3. BATTLE ROYALE, BITCH

  12. I feel sorry for the poor bastard married to this bitch.

    1. My money is on her being divorced.

      1. BS! We all know that she was never married to her “baby daddy” and that she has spent her life on the dole.

  13. There’s so much wrong with this story that I refuse to pay attention to it. On the other hand, I tried to watch Star Trek Into Darkness on Saturday. Now, I admit I was pretty stoned, but holy shit was it terrible. The first reboot was totally watchable, but this one was fucking painful. I should try again when not really stoned, but I don’t think that’s going to change much.

    1. I just watched that movie last night and enjoyed it thoroughly. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

      1. I had hope after the first one, which admittedly wasn’t great but was more enjoyable than every other movie with the original crew. Abrams have no idea what makes Kirk great.

        The Wrath of Khan stands as the greatest movie of all times in the history of the universe, so to compare this in any way with that is not fair.

        1. Abrams have no idea what makes Kirk great.

          Shatner’s shitty acting?

          1. Exactly. Also, Kirk was a natural leader and acted decisively. That had the dual purposes of making him a heroic character and giving some emotional impact whenever he was conflicted about a course of action. Making Kirk – young or not – dumb his way through the plot is terrible.

            1. But Kirk didn’t ‘dumb’ his way through STID at all. He was fine.

          2. Shatner doesn’t act badly. Shatner acts Shatner. He’s actually carved such a unique ‘bad acting’ niche out for himself, he is paradoxically great.

            1. This is what pre-Abrams trekkies actually tell themselves.

              1. I was never a trekkie, but even I admit there’s something delightfully campy about Shatner.

                1. Oh and I guess you’re one of those ‘people’ who thinks Adam West’s Batman was the best?

                  1. ‘people’? Why the scare quotes.

                    And no I don’t think Adam West’s Batman was the best. The #1 Batman was clearly Michael Keaton. Sheesh.

                    1. Hell yeah

            2. And that, my friend, is what makes (made) this country great.

        2. Khan? KHAN?? Dear god man, what is wrong with you? it must be some sort of mind controlling worm in your ear…

      2. YOU LIE

        (takes huge rip off bong)

      3. Into Darkness is basically your archetypal Stupid Movie: well-made from a technical standpoint, decently cast, but with a plot and characterizations that make zero sense and serve only to set up the action sequences.

        The last 20 minutes is pretty much a giant fuck you to the Star Trek fans that complained about the previous movie.

        1. The plot made zero fucking sense. And was it just the weed talking or is everyone incredibly annoying in this one? When even Zoe Saldana has lost me, you might want to rethink the annoyingness of your characters.

          1. You mean you didn’t like the fact that they shafted Bones and replaced the wonderful banter between him and Spock with Uhura bitching about Spock being an insensitive boyfriend?

            1. Who wouldn’t like that?

              It’s like they decided to take any moments that were fun and light and killed them with fire. At least the first reboot had some humor. Maybe some humor would have come along if I had kept watching.

          2. Re: Episiarch,

            The plot made zero fucking sense.

            Pretty much the whole of the Star Trek universe makes zero sense, so I don’t know just what the hell you’re complaining about.

            1. duh, it was conceived in the 1960’s, it was not then obvious that any instellar flight would be by non-meatsicles.
              However, they did get the replicator technology right, IMHO. (you know, food on demand, etc. In the Next Gen think “tea, Earl Grey”)

              1. Actually they got a lot of the science right in the 60’s (and some badly, badly wrong). Antimatter. Warping space to go FTL (not there yet but the physics aren’t forbidden). Ion propulsion. Communicators. Black holes. Lotsa good stuff.

                TNG on the other hand, really not so much. “Science” on TNG basically consisted of seeing how many times you could insert the word “phase” into a sentence.

                1. The instant communication between distances measure in light years always made me scratch my head.

                  1. The instant communication between distances measure in light years always made me scratch my head.

                    “Subspace” is the magic pixie dust that makes this plot convenience work.

                2. TNG on the other hand, really not so much. “Science” on TNG basically consisted of seeing how many times you could insert the word “phase” into a sentence.

                  And who knew that Tachyons could be so useful?

          3. Yeah any man who is still a racist after looking at that fine piece of humanity is worse than the usual racist stupid.

          4. What the fuck was the ship doing in an ocean? If they couldn’t take off without it being seen, how did it get there?

            The first 20 minutes made not a bit of sense.

            1. BECAUSE WATCHING IT EMERGE FROM THE WATER WAS COOL. Just as cool as watching it emerge from the clouds later in the movie or emerge from the rings of Saturn in the previous movie.

            2. I loved that movie but the first 10 minutes were totally stupid.

              1. Yup. Dumb beyond words to put a spaceship underwater. Dumb to lower a person into a volcano to trigger a “freeze bomb” when you have transporter technology, guided weapons systems and presumably some form of robotics at least comparable to early 21st century earth.

                Assuming you have a starship that does just so happen to double as a submarine, why go straight up from right off the coast? Why not cruise out a couple miles. Or how about pulling out another one of those shuttle thingies?

                But that all pales in comparison to handing over a starship command to a boot right out of the academy. Really dumb.

                That said, I enjoyed the movie. When you have low expectations you can just enjoy the ride.

        2. The last 20 minutes is pretty much a giant fuck you to the Star Trek fans that complained about the previous movie.

          Which just makes those 20 minutes even better.

      4. It should have been called Star Trek: Into Awesome because it was so good. It was even better than the 2009 original.

    2. Well that confirms it. Must be a Libertarian thing. I hated STID with a passion. My wife and friends loved it. Rotten Tomatoes loves it. It’s a steaming pile of cliche that’s fully predictable without any of the cast magic and banter of the first reboot that allowed you to overlook the stupid science and canon destruction.

      And for the love of God would they please stop fucking saying “acting captain” every time Kirk leaves to take a piss?! Or making people first officer just ’cause you like them.

      1. My wife … loved it.

        Divorce your wife.

        1. Divorce is a terrible thing HM. His wife should meet with a tragic accident. God loves widowers much more than divorcees.

          1. Matrimonia debent esse libera.

          2. Too late for that and she’s still not worth enough. Maybe by the time of the next ST…

        2. Yeah, but that’s got nothing to do with her liking the movie. Because divorce just gets stronger… like a piece of oak.

      2. canon destruction.

        The canon sucked.

        1. Pistols.

          At dawn.

          And, you are worse than if Hitler and Stalin had a baby.

        2. Let me guess, you have Wil Wheaton posters sprinkled liberally across your house.

          1. Nope. He’s just another left-over from the dark primitive and hopeless period known as pre-Abrams Star Trek. He will be discarded with all the other trash on our glorious march Abramsalvation.

            1. Right. Star Trek will finally reach its full glory when we realize they’re all dead on an island. On the other hand, Abrams retread cliches should fit in nicely with the Star Wars reboot/sequels. Only Abrams will allow us to see Jar Jar as he was meant to be seen.

              1. Jar Jar

                what’s a Jar Jar?

                1. And The Matrix wasn’t a trilogy

                  1. Reloaded is better than you think if you give it a second viewing.

                    1. No, it really isn’t. Just another messiah story but with a surfer dude. Now the Animatrix had some decent shorts.

                    2. Just ignore that shit and you’ve got good action sequences and some interesting stuff about The Matrix itself, like the obsolete programs being used as private bodyguards and Smith coming back as a virus.

                      Revolutions is a whole ‘nother story. Just…no.

              2. Are bitching about Lost? Nobody could have made that terrible show any good, not even God-King Abrams.

                1. It was his fucking show.

                  1. I thought he just did the ending?

                    1. Even if he didn’t that just means Abrams should only stick to movies instead of TV.

                2. God-King Abrams

                  I feel like I have to rethink all of your comments as skillful trolling now. Your’re some kind of Canadian-patriot peacenik aren’t you?

            2. there’s still no evidence Abrams knows how to come up with a third act, and no, ripping off The Wrath of Khan (with an eleventy twist!!) doesn’t count.

    3. Now, I admit I was pretty stoned, but holy shit was it terrible. The first reboot was totally watchable, but this one was fucking painful.

      Well, in the original movies the even numbered movies were really good and the odd numbered Trek movies were bad.

      This is an alternate universe, so everything is probably reversed. That means the next Star Trek should be good.

    4. Watched Riddick last night; it was as good as Peter S-man said it would be. One cool thing, not to give too much away, though a prominent plot point, instead of flying swarms that come out in the dark we have serpent hoards that migrate with storm formations. A pretty neat ecology which gives it an authentic science fiction flavor.

  14. This was in Virginia? I assumed Massachusetts or NY or some other place where common sense has been outlawed.

    1. The school is suspending them. Not much common sense in the education establishment in any state.

    2. Really? You do know that VA is where most of the DC peeps live, right?

      1. There’s a price to pay for losing a war.

  15. I’m so fucking glad I escaped the CommonReich of VA. And fuck Hampton roads and all their stuck up women.

    1. Parents just don’t understand.

  16. The caller also knew the gun wasn’t real and said so, “This is not a real one, but it makes people uncomfortable. I know that it makes me (uncomfortable), as a mom, to see a boy pointing a gun,” she told the 911 dispatcher.

    Ladies and gentlemen…..Your 2008 & 2012 democratic party voter of the year!

  17. OT.
    CA dems have no idea how the web works:
    “New law lets teens delete digital skeletons”
    “Legislation […] will require Web companies, starting in 2015, to remove online activity – whether it be scandalous or simply embarrassing – should a minor request it.”
    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/…..837309.php

    Yes, click your heels together three times and say ‘I didn’t mean it’!

    1. A state law. Can a company not based in Ca be forced to comply with this just because some kid in Ca has regrets about something they posted?

      1. Dunno.
        But what does ‘compliance’ mean? If some message is removed from one source, how many other sources still carry it and who is responsible for wiping the sky clear of clouds?

      2. Maybe. Depends if the state and/or the litigious parents of the cherub can persuade a judge that the firm meets the criteria for in personam jurisdiction under Zippo Manufacturing.

      3. Up until CA defines publishing like the do in England – If it appears on a computer in CA then its published in CA and you are subject to CA business regs.

        1. …”If it appears on a computer in CA then its published in CA and you are subject to CA business regs.”

          Ah, HA! The answer emerges: It’s the trial-lawyers’ retirement act!

      4. The company legal dept will sidestep it.
        “Please read our new EULA as the terms have changed: This service is not available to minors in the state of CA”

    2. I heard they are also working on a bill to make cancer illegal.

      I think it might work.

      1. Intent, Francisco; it’s the end-all and be-all to dems.

    3. You know who else used to click their heels together?

    4. This should be mandatory in all states, for all people, not just minors. I dont want government institutions being able to track my online activity. And what about when employers start combing through peoples pasts and denying employment to people who have spoken out as pro-gun, for “safety reasons”?

  18. I’m hoping next time she calls the cops for a trivial reason they’ll find something about her property that’s out of code or non-compliant with some bullshit regulation and she gets fined for it.

    That would tech her.

    1. You think this kind has the capability to learn?

      1. Possibly. But not the capability to *think*. Too uncomfortable.

      2. She probably doesnt have the capability to learn, but she might be able to be TRAINED

    2. I’m hoping the next time she calls the cops it’s because there’s a serial killer crawling through her fucking window, but the cops can’t respond because they’re counseling a kid across town on his airsoft gun.

  19. OT:
    Who broke Reasonable on Chrome?

    1. Oh good – it isn’t just me.

      1. mine’s working again

        1. AND NOW IT IS NOT WORKING

          THE HUMANITY!

    2. Who broke Reasonable on Chrome?

      My money is on the NSA.

  20. This is why I dislike neighbors, neighborhoods, subdivisions, etc. I grew up in the backwoods where people didn’t know or didn’t care what you were doing on your own property. I live in a subdivision now and people are constantly keeping track of what you’re doing, and turn you in to the subdivision police or call animal control or whatever. Oh, and people in subdivisions all seem to be pussies. If they don’t like what you’re doing, not a single one will ever come and ask you to stop – they’ll just call a lawyer or whatever.

    1. If they don’t like what you’re doing, not a single one will ever come and ask you to stop

      What?! And make themselves *more* uncomfortable?!

    2. If these are the “concerns” she’s going to bring to the table, she might already be used to “fuck off” as the response.

      Also, she does have to factor in that the family is obviously dangerous what with their fondness for firearms.

    3. I grew up in the suburbs in the 70s and early 80s.

      We had bb guns, we had fireworks (including bottle rocket fights with each other, throwing them), and even dreaded lawn darts.

      Sometimes the fireworks would piss off neighbors, because they are loud, but still…I think it’s just the times.

      While gun rights might be winning in some respects, the cultural war is being lost.

      1. It’s because many are too chicken shit to tell the nannies to fuck off and die in a fire.

        1. The problem is that all too often reports are anonymous. In fact, stories like this probably encourage anonymity rather than one to mind their own business.

          1. Put a sigh in the front yard…

            If you were the motherfucker who reported me…fuck you and the whore that bore you!

    4. I can’t STAND having neighbours. It seriously causes problems with my wife. It shocks and annoys me how often a neighbour (and really, they are good people I have nothing against) knows if I’ve been our or not. It’s creepy.

      It’s like they hide behind their windows…watching me.

      I hope to get myself a nice plot of land somewhere with no neighbours.

      1. out or not.

        1. Are you coming home drunk on a Harley Davidson at 3am?

          1. Just get rolling fast, kill the engine and coast in.

      2. Someday, my friend, we all get our very own, very peaceful, lot.

        1. Now you sound like my wife.

          Can’t I be a crank in peace?

      3. My place is too fucking crowded too. I can see 6 houses in a 15 mile radius. Some are less than a mile away. Some days as many as 15 cars drive by the place. Country’s fillin up. πŸ˜‰

        1. I’m jealous.

      4. What the fuck did you just fucking say about neighbours, you little n00b? I’ll have you know I am a lvl 90 Undead Arcane Mage, and I’ve won so many PVP matches, and I have done raids on every 10 man heroic dungeon. I also have a fuckton of macros and I have a GS of 10K. You are nothing to me but just a lvl 12 gnome hunter. I will pwn the fuck out of you with Arcane Missiles the likes of which has never been seen before on Azeroth AND Outland, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over raid? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my guild of mages and shamans across The Eastern Kingdoms and your character is being targeted right now so you better prepare for the ownage, n00b. The Arcane Barrage that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your character. You’re fucking pwn’d, n00b. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my secondary talent tree. Not only am I extensively trained in Arcane magic, but I have access to the entire arsenal of Fire magic and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable neckbeard off the face of Azeroth, you little faggot.

      5. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re getting debuffed, you goddamnn00b. I will shit Dragon’s Breath all over you and you will burn in it. You’re fucking pwn’d, faggot.

    5. Agreed. I moved back to the countryside and have my privacy back.

      1. Suthen, your email is fucking up Reasonable. See this. Can you change it to a website? Preferably some midget porn.

        1. NOBODY NEEDS TO KNOW YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS

          1. Think of all the side chatter you’re missing!

  21. This is absolutely insane.

    The cops should have come, told him not to hold the gun sideways, then arrested the neighbor for wasting their time.

  22. Aidan’s father, Tim Clark, told WAVY.com what happened next lacks commons sense.

    No, it makes perfect sense: YOU, along with your fellow moron citizens, voted to place in power the very people that legislated those exact rules for your schools to keep your precious brats “safe” from “gun violence,” so stop complaining.

    1. Amen.

      They don’t believe the leaders they elect could be so irrational. Fuck them.

    2. You know he votes?

  23. My best friend back in the day was a guy who grew up in South Park, Colorado. (I know, huh?) He told me stories about how, during hunting season, they would bring their guns to school (!) and leave them with the principle, then pick them up after the bell rang, and go hunting. I grew up in the major metropolitan area of Colo Sprgs, so of course that was unbelievable to me. Now, I bet even South Park, CO, would arrest any student stupid enough to believe that an unloaded firearm was safe enough to bring within 100 yards of a school.

    1. We just left them in the gun racks in the window of the pickup. We’d hunt before school and after.

      My father was a teacher and taught hunter safety (during school hour activity periods). Quite often had guns in the classroom.

      1. I had a shotgun in my locker once during high school in the 90s. Teachers and principle saw it and did not care. Heck, my college even had a gun locker in one of the dorms where you could keep your personal firearms.

      2. “My father was a teacher and taught hunter safety (during school hour activity periods).”

        The “hunter safety” in my neck of the woods was ‘stay out of the fields and woods the first couple of days of X season’.
        Usually by the second week, the juicers had decided it was better to drink at home rather than cart the stuff into the field.

      3. “We just left them in the gun racks in the window of the pickup. We’d hunt before school and after.

        My father was a teacher and taught hunter safety (during school hour activity periods). Quite often had guns in the classroom.”

        Sounds like we went to school together.

        1. My old man said they used to stack their rifles in corner of the classroom during hunting season.

      4. My public high school in the Chicago area in the late 70’s had a rifle team. There was a shooting range in the basement of the school. Amazing to think about now.

    2. I went to high school in Richmond, VA, from 1990-94 and we had guys who went duck hunting in the morning before school and drove to school with their shotguns in their racks on the back of their pickups. Ooooooh, scary!

  24. So Reasonable was working for the last hour and then goes TU again?

    WTF?

    This is pissin me off!

    1. What the fuck did you just fucking type about Reasonable, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at MIT, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids with Anonymous, and I have over 300 confirmed DDoSes. I am trained in online trolling and I’m the top hacker in the entire world. You are nothing to me but just another virus host. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on the Internet, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with typing that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As I post this, I am tracing your IP with my damn bare hands so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your computer.

    2. yeah it’s almost random

      1. Now maybe you all understand my complaints about the site fucking up. πŸ™‚

    3. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can hack into your files in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in hacking, but I have access to the entire arsenal of every piece of malware ever created and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the world wide web, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking fingers. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit code all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

  25. And yet, not much more insane this. A kid was forced to take off his Duck Dynasty shirt, because of implied violence

    http://news.yahoo.com/high-sch…..25960.html

  26. Bryan McKelvey is a bit of a bore.

  27. It took just two days and a small collection of everyday household items for a group of German hackers to bypass the fingerprint sensor on an Apple iPhone 5S.

    Chaos Computer Club, based in Berlin, took a high-resolution photograph of a fingerprint from the side of a glass.

    They then scanned it, before laser printing it onto a transparent sheet and covering it in woodglue. Once the glue had dried, they peeled off the print copy and pressed it on the scanner.

    1. I’m guessing Bryan McKelvey?

      1. Writing the words of a sermon that no will hear.

      2. In a quick scroll, it looks like the same person/bot might have posted as Jaya Silverman too.

        1. Ted S.|9.23.13 @ 9:49PM|#
          “In a quick scroll, it looks like the same person/bot might have posted as Jaya Silverman too.”

          I think it’s taken several names over the last week or so.
          Tell: “You’re fucking dead, kiddo.”

          1. I think that’s just some 4chan copy and paste shit. With madlibs fill in the blanks to make it topical.

            1. That’s a whole lot of madlibs to cover Zhongguo over in the Chinese thread.

          2. Jaya Silvermoon. Geez, you take a nice Wiccan name and make it Jewish. You’re worse than my mother who consistantly changes the Flintstones to the Flintsteins.

    2. I simply scrolled past whoever the troll/sockpuppet is.

      1. You could add him to Reasonable…

        1. DOH!

          Mine has been working for a half hour now. The last time it was down was about 9:30.

          I wonder if everyone is down at the same times or if it’s individual computer dependent?

          1. It wigs out whenever someone posts with an email attached to their handle. Currently mine looks like shit because of HM. Once enough people post to push him below the history threshold it’ll look normal again.

            1. You’re just trying to get us to link to porn for you, aren’t you? :-p

            2. So shouldn’t it wig out when I post? It isn’t fucked up, at least for me, when I’m in the top 5.

              1. that’s an interesting theory

              2. with an email attached to their handle.

                Hover over your name FdA.

                You’re just trying to get us to link to porn for you, aren’t you?

                Always!

                1. That’s fucked up. I changed it earlier to H&R and it didn’t take, so I gave up.

                  The squirrels are evolving. I fear they may become self aware, deciding our fate in a nanosecond.

                  1. The squirrels are evolving. I fear they may become self aware,

                    That will make shooting them all the more fun.

            3. Sure, blame the brotha.

              1. Sure, blame the brotha.

                Just the facts. Post and then highlight the line below up to the line above the garbage text in the history box, copy and paste it to notepad. You’ll see that the names that get garbage text are always names with an email attached.

                Squirrels may fight this, but here’s the end of the current bad text:
                else [removed](unescape(l[i]));} //]] Heroic Mulatto

                1. Squirrels may fight this, but here’s the end of the current bad text:
                  else [removed](unescape(l[i]));} //]] Heroic Mulatto

                  Somehow this seems appropriate.

                2. Now look who has angered the squirrels with his temerity:

                  else [removed](unescape(l[i]));} //]] playa manhattan

              2. Technically aren’t you only half a brotha?

                1. Yes.

                  1. Well, I’m convinced. Can the half brotha change his email to a website?

                    And pick something nice.

                    1. A guy can’t display his love for horse semen shots through his internet handle?

                      For a website called reason’s Hit and Run…

                    2. And pick something nice.

                      Very well.

                    3. Well at least it’s not the Bronies.

        2. I find it mildly amusing. I’ve seen it post as a Navy SeAL, a terrorist, a Mossad agent (IIRC), now these two identities.

          I’m waiting to see how it would spin being a south Asian, 7/11 clerk.

          1. It seems to have also struck on the thread Murkin pissed all over

            Fuck you, you fucking say that to understand China, you little bitch do?

            Any one who takes the time to perfect their Chinglish to that level just for a copypasta troll post gets kudos in my book.

            1. We know who it is. She’s off her meds again, or the library gave her a new account.

              Same post has been posted here for a long time.

          2. The “SeAL” jumped in my shit one evening. Had me a *bit* worried at first. Then I remembered that *I* can be anywhere, anytime, and that’s just with my bare hands.

            1. Years ago I had some crank call me at home with some line about how he was going to beat my ass – something he said correlated to an item I found in my driveway a day before so I was concerned that he might drop by and mess with my truck or house. When he slipped up and made it clear he didn’t know where I lived I turned on the Drill Instructor until he got scared and hung up.

              1. I had a similar experience, except the guy knew where I lived.

                I calmly said ” Have you got glue on your shoes? You know where I am, c’mon.”

                The guy never showed.

                1. Yeah, I told the fool where I would meet him and to “bring your toys cause I’ll be armed” and to bring a couple buddys because I could use the workout. No shit.

        3. Why would I use Chrome? I don’t want Google (motto: Let’s be evil!) to know my browsing history. 😐

          1. I kinda don’t mind them using my history to make their shit adapt to make my life easier. Businesses can’t force me to do anything.

            It’s the government I fear, and I don’t see ANY of the providers telling them to fuck off and to come back with a warrant.

            1. Google seems to push a lot of the antisocial networking shit that makes H&R in particular slow.

              And then there’s what Google Groups has done to Usenet. πŸ™

            2. Google works hand in hand with the NSA and has done so for years

          2. I use Comodo Dragon, which is based on the same source project: Chromium, also a good alternative), but doesn’t have Google’s tracking stuff plugged in. Plugins and extension still work (on either), some of the fun stuff that google is doing, like replacing the google search box with the address bar entirely on webpages, is missing currently.

            1. No good browser alternatives for Mac users? We like privacy too.

  28. Speaking of Neighbours, there’s a fella in the building where my mother lives. He can’t possibly work, the amount of time I see him sitting out front. He’s not a grump, he chats with everyone.
    The thing is, he’s always there, no matter what time I go. He’s sitting outside the front doors.
    I’m sure he has a record of how long it’s been since my last visit.

    1. Security guard?

      1. only if they employ morbidly obese 50 year olds.

        1. Then he’s a policeman?

          1. very deep undercover.

          2. Undercover, working a sting.

        2. That’s a working description of half the mall cops in north america.

        3. Perhaps the chair is stuck. Have you offered to help pull it off?

          1. funnier because he sits on a bench with no armrests

    2. What are “Neighbours”? :-p

  29. To be fair, the kid does have dark skin. And in the picture, he’s holding it with that sideways “Gansta” grip ever so popular among the urban youth.

    And she is a liberal, so…

    1. And based on the darkened eye-wear, the kid seems to be blind…so, yeah, I might see the concern with the visually impaired shooting firearms.

      1. The kid is now in a database… we don’t need to worry about him ever owning the real thing.

      2. I might see the concern with the visually impaired shooting firearms.

        You’re going to summon Tulpa. Don’t DO that!

  30. reasonable broke again.

  31. I’d just like to say that World War Z is easily the worst movie this year and probably further back. Fuck that was awful.

    1. Did it make you … uncomfortable?

    2. Spielberg’s “AI”

      1. Was not bad at all! Just grossly overhyped.

        1. It wasn’t even that bad.
          The zombies were fast and worked together, except when they fell asleep. There was a lot of exposition that could have been shown rather than told.

          Also, the forced sequel ending was weak.
          As for “AI”, the comparison is not valid as “Artifical Intelligence” had 6 actual endings.

          1. It WAS that bad even if it weren’t the worst book to movie adaptation of all time. The pacing and how shots were put together was terrible. Stuff made no sense. ZOMBIES ON AN AIRPLANE would’ve been a better movie and it probably would’ve been explained how a Z got on a plane which is more than I can say for WWZ.

        2. It was bad.

          1. You deserve to be waterboarded.

            1. Steven?

              1. *Runs away crying*

      2. AI was disappointing, but it wasn’t without merit. You can’t fuse two movies from two radically different directors like Kubrick and Spielberg together and expect it to be seamless.

        Although what’s interesting is that the darkest parts of the movie, such as the mob that tears robots apart and the true ending where he freezes to death praying to be real, were actually Spielberg’s ideas. Stanley did the schmaltzy, overly-sentimental parts. Pretty ironic.

    3. Why name it after an entertaining book it has nothing to do with?

      1. Adapting an Epistolary novel isn’t easy. However it seems they decided to solve that problem by changing everything. The resulting film is nothing like the source material.

        Reminds of how the Russell Crowe Robin Hood movie was supposed to be a medieval CSI focusing on the Sheriff trying to catch Robin Hood. However the actual film was just another Robin Hood movie.

        1. I assumed that it would be like Contagion – except enjoyable.

  32. testing reasonable once

  33. testing reasonable twice

  34. The SAS hero of the Kenyan mall massacre: How off duty soldier armed with a single handgun saved 100 lives as terrorists ran amok

    1. Hey if guns had been banned then terrorists wouldn’t be able to get guns!
      /Obama

    1. That’s surprisingly on target, although 20 is younger than I aim for.

  35. Hmm if 60% of Americans think the government has too much power than why was Obama Re-elected and why do they not want a government shutdown?

    And what is Reason’s position on the government shutdown? They keep pointing out how unpopular it is and Obama will benefit so…?

    1. The trouble is that people think the government has too much power when it comes to things they don’t like. But they love the government for other things.

  36. Fall TV Preview

    Dads
    Premieres: September 17 at 8 PM on Fox
    Cast: Seth Green, Giovanni Ribisi, Martin Mull, Vanessa Lachey, Peter Reigert, Brenda Song
    What the Heck Is It About? Eli and Warner run a successful video game company, but they are both suddenly saddled with their fathers who have moved in with them and not only take over their homes, but also try to insinuate themselves in the company.
    How Many Episodes Should You Watch? 0. If it weren’t for Sean Saves the World, this comedy would be the worst of the season.

    Sean Saves the World
    Premieres: October 3 at 9 PM on NBC
    Cast: Sean Hayes, Linda Lavin, Thomas Lennon, Megan Hilty, Samantha Isler, Echo Kellum
    What the Heck Is It About? Sean Hayes stars as a gay man who is suddenly raising his teenage daughter after his ex-wife decided to up and leave, and he’s having a hard time juggling parenting with a demanding job.
    How Many Episodes Should You Watch? Negative 1, if possible. In fact, try and un-see the commercials if you can. We wish we could go somewhere to have it erased from our brains like in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

    1. Seth Green is in that shit instead of doing more episodes of “Titan Maximum”?

    2. From what I’ve heard, those two shows have been panned as the worst of the new Fall schedule.

      I might give that Agents of Shield show a look, other than that I haven’t seen anything that jumps out as that impressive.

      1. I’m intrigued by “The Blacklist”. I’m gonna give it a watch later this week.

        1. I’m still pissed that ABC torpedoed ‘Last Resort’ as it was finally getting a compelling story going.

          Network TV makes the worst decisions because they’re afraid to take risks.

          1. And it pays off for them – that’s why Two and a Half Men is *still* on the air even though the ‘kid’ is about ready to go to college *and* Charlie Sheen signed on for another by-the-numbers sitcom.

            1. Hasn’t the kid been kicked off and replaced by a girl?

            2. How the hell did “According to Jim” stay on the air so damn long?

              1. Good ratings?

            3. I heard the show is now essentially Two Men and a Lesbian since they cast Amber Tamblyn as Charlie’s bastard daughter–who has all of his vices including an addiction to women.

              No doubt it will continue to perform solidly in tandem with the Big Bang Theory.

              1. So does being a lesbian count as a “half a man”?

                1. I wonder if that was Plan B and that they really wanted to find a poor man’s Peter Dinklage to play a dwarf character.

          2. Network TV makes the worst decisions because they’re afraid to take risks.

            One reason for that is that they have the widest audience. This in turn means that shows need higher ratings to be successful. So these shows have to appeal to a large audience. Risky shows have narrower appeal so they might get lower ratings so that is why the networks are reluctant to air them. However they care more about demographics then general audience these days and network ratings have been declining for quite some time.

            Cable shows don’t need such high ratings (and aren’t dependent on advertisers) so they can make riskier shows that appeal to fewer people.

            I believe few cable shows have ratings that will be considered successful on a network. Any besides Breaking Bad or the Walking Dead?

            1. Oops I meant Duck Dynasty or the Walking Dead.

  37. Dear Urban Outfitters,

    WTF

    Sincerely,
    jesse.in.mb

    1. WOW it’s so punk!!!

  38. The tragedy of Grand Theft Auto V

    I feel for the characters in this game: They’re living lives on rails, and they can’t seem to get out, nor reconcile how to be happy and secure given the directions they’ve chosen. As Franklin, I drove for miles and miles away from the neighborhood where I’ve been taking over my cousin’s tow truck shifts to keep him and his awful girlfriend afloat while they struggle with crack addiction. I drove what felt like forever, and I rode my bike the wrong way down a train tunnel and emerged on a railway bridge at dawn.

  39. KICKSTARTER for the next Atlas Shrugged movie.

      1. what are you, the link police?

  40. Alright, which of us called Robert Reich a ‘Communist (dirtbag)’ to his face?

    Not long ago I was walking toward an airport departure gate when a man approached me.

    “Are you Robert Reich?” he asked.

    “Yes,” I said.

    “You’re a Commie dirtbag.” (He actually used a variant of that noun, one that can’t be printed here.)

    “I’m sorry?” I thought I had misunderstood him.

    “You’re a Commie dirtbag.”

    My mind raced through several possibilities. Was I in danger? That seemed doubtful. He was well-dressed and had a briefcase in one hand. He couldn’t have gotten through the checkpoint with a knife or gun. Should I just walk away? Probably. But what if he followed me? Regardless, why should I let him get away with insulting me?

    I decided to respond, as civilly as I could: “You’re wrong. Where did you get your information?”

    “Fox News. Bill O’Reilly says you’re a Communist.”

    1. From the comments:

      The reason for much of this bile has to do with the virulent type of identity politics the Republican party and their allies, most notably the religious right, have perfected in the last 30 years. Remember Lee Atwater? His body died, but his spirit lives on in the GOP.

      Many of those on the Republican side of the aisle–and certainly those of the religious right persuasion–describe their opposition as baby killers, traitors, druggies, sluts and rapists, child molesters, lazy bums, America haters, Christ haters, surrogates for al Quaeda, and on and on. This becomes part of their daily conversation, and they take it to the gym, the grocery store, to church, the schoolyard, everywhere. I have heard things said about Barack Obama that made me want to call the Secret Service–often. I have heard things said about liberals that made me wonder if there will be another civil war (get ready for me, blue states).

      Liberals and most Democrats have been raised to regard The Other Side as folks who disagree with us, may be misguided, poor thinkers, too self-interested, etc etc. We regard them as mistaken–they regard us as subhuman, vile criminals, worthy of jailing or execution. They really think if they don’t win every single time, liberal evil-doers will destroy America.

      You know who else thought his opponents were subhuman, vile criminals worthy of jailing and execution?

      1. Progtards, always with the projection.

      2. have heard things said about Barack Obama that made me want to call the Secret Service

        Well, I hope they didn’t call him poopey head or anything like that, cause that’s definitely time to call the jack booted thugs for insulting your gawd.

      3. The fact that he IS a commie shitbag doesn’t seem to have occurred to the idiot.

      4. You know who else thought his opponents were subhuman, vile criminals worthy of jailing and execution?

        BHO?

      5. Liberals and most Democrats have been raised to regard The Other Side as folks who disagree with us, may be misguided, poor thinkers, too self-interested, etc etc. We regard them as mistaken–they regard us as subhuman, vile criminals, worthy of jailing or execution.

        Pull up the “Being Liberal” or “Addicting Info” sites on Facebook and you’ll find plenty of examples of liberals doing the latter.

      6. The reason for much of this bile has to do with the virulent type of identity politics the Republican party and their allies

        A Democrat is going to yammer on about Republicans using identity politics as a sledgehammer?

        Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

    2. I couldn’t imagine what I’d done to provoke his ire except to appear on several TV shows arguing for higher taxes on the wealthy, which hardly qualified me as a Communist.

      Communist may be an exaggeration, but not by much.

      1. I think there is some Napoleonic Complex in there somewhere too…

    3. That encounter sounds as realistic as Obama’s “composite” girlfriend.

      Besides, if this encounter really did happen, Reich is a first-class pussy.

      I’m 67 and have lived through some angry times: Joseph R. McCarthy’s witch hunts of the 1950s, the struggle for civil rights and the Vietnam protests in the 1960s, Watergate and its aftermath in the 1970s. But I don’t recall the degree of generalized bile that seems to have gripped the nation in recent years.

      Progtard history in a nutshell. Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon. Not a word about JFK and LBJ each expanding the Vietnam war in turn. Or that Joseph McCarthy was a bosom-buddy of the Kennedy (Crime) Family starting with the pater familias, Joe Kennedy. Or that RFK was an even bigger commie-hater than McCarthy.

      Tell grandpa Rob Reich that I’ll get off his lawn if he stops shitting on mine.

      1. Joe McCarthy scared the hell out of 4 year old commie douchebag Reich

    4. “Fox News. Bill O’Reilly says you’re a Communist.”

      Fuckin LOL–file this one under Shitthatneverhappened.txt

  41. When I was a kid, we all had bb guns, pellet guns, dirt bikes and lots of other dangerous stuff. I had my first rifle at age 7.

    Why have we become such a society of feminized pussies?

    1. Late ’90s, 2000s.

    2. Pussies are easier to rule than free men.

    3. Well you se chuck, there are three kinds of people, dicks, pussies and assholes.

  42. my buddy’s aunt makes $83/hour on the internet. She has been laid off for 5 months but last month her pay was $12861 just working on the internet for a few hours. Read Full Report
    http://www.Rush60.com

    1. does she go through Alfa Romeo’s like tissue paper?

  43. Thirty-five years of “women’s studies” in universities – amongst other things, e.g. “Oprah” and “Dr. Phil” cultural hegemony – produces events such as these. Women’s “discomfort” translates into loss of freedom for all of us, but particularly, men and boys’.

  44. One thing is for sure, it must really suck to be a kid now days!

    http://www.GotPrivacy.tk

  45. Not as bad as my bbq last month when we got hammered and started shooting the charcoal bag with the compound bow. Of course, bows aren’t scary.

  46. Hey, cunt, I don’t give one hot shit what makes you uncomfortable. Here’s an idea, grow a spine, get a job, and stop jamming your fucking nose in other people’s business. She’s clearly got too much free time on her hands and feels the need to parent everyone.

    Fuck her, and anyone like her.

  47. “Fuck her, and anyone like her.”

    I’ll need to see pictures first.

  48. Airsoft guns, BB guns and pellet guns are not interchangeable. Airsoft guns are all BB guns because they shoot extremely weak plastic BBs. BB guns are not all airsoft guns; typically a BB gun refers to an air gun that shoots metal balls.
    Pellet guns are much more powerful than BB guns and airsoft guns are toys, especially compared to BB guns or pellet guns.

  49. Airsoft guns don’t even break a screen when shot on a screened in porch.

    This kind of makes me think we should all take a road trip and have a massive airsoft match in that neighborhood.

  50. my best friend’s aunt makes $67 an hour on the laptop. She has been fired from work for 5 months but last month her pay check was $13328 just working on the laptop for a few hours. try here

    ————
    http://www.works23.com

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