If a scientific paper has made it harder to win lawsuits, what's an attorney to do? Why, sue the scientists and their publisher, of course. Walter Olson tells the tale:
Some newborns are found to be suffering from brachial plexus injury, a type of harm to a child's shoulder, arm, or hand that in a minority of cases results in permanent disability (so-called Erb's palsy or a number of related conditions). A large volume of birth-injury litigation goes on as a result, in part because courts have tended to accept the idea that the only medically recognized cause of those conditions in newborns is excessive or traumatic use of physical force by clinicians ("traction"). In 2008, however, the American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology published a case report of a delivery in which an infant was found to be suffering such injury although the physician by her own account had not applied any excessive traction during the birth. If instead natural forces of labor could cause the dislocation resulting in the condition, many lawsuits might rest on shakier ground. Since then, defense lawyers have cited the report—by Henry Lerner of Harvard Medical School and Eva Salamon of the Bond Clinic in Winter Park, Fla.—in litigation.
A Boston lawyer who claims to have debunked the Lerner-Salamon case study has proceeded to sue its two authors, Elsevier—which publishes ACOG and many other medical and scientific journals—and Dr. Salamon's clinic for publishing and refusing to retract it. The damages are said to be $3 million each to two families of infant plaintiffs whose lawsuits did not succeed allegedly because of the case report.
I have no informed opinion on the accuracy of the paper. I do know, though, that under the First Amendment the proper response to an inaccurate paper is to criticize it, not to suppress it. If experts are citing the study in court, you can ask other experts to criticize it in court. To instead file a suit demanding a retraction is just legal thuggery.
The good news is that a district court dismissed the case. The bad news is that the suit isn't dead yet: It's on appeal to the First Circuit.
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I like that region. Belgium went 535 days without a government. The Belgians were really embarrassed about it too. They the very few of them I know thought I was weird for thinking it the BEST THING EVER.
Like my own commenting, it is difficult to tell whether H&R regulars is commenting through a stroke or commenting whilst stroking themselves. Glad you're okay and I'm okay.
It was not immediately clear if the 100 million euros spent by the government on maintaining the Royal House, with its castles and parades, would be included in the austerity cuts.
Obviously if it were up to me I'd get rid of the whole goddamn thing and abolish the monarchy. I don't understand these European countries that spend an asston maintaining figureheads with no actual political power.
Seems preferable to the US practice of spending an asston maintaining figureheads with actual political power. Our country might fare better if the ceremonial aspects of the head of state weren't constantly being used to further the political agenda of the current head of government.
You could always just cut out the ceremonial aspect of government entirely and stop using human beings as nothing more than pro-state propaganda tools.
People like parades and ceremonies. You can either deal with that reality by providing depoliticized venues for it, or someone is going to fill the vacuum with a politicized version.
Having a president who has to fulfill the roles of both pomp and running the country takes away from the president's ability to spend his energy running the country.
So yeah, having a King or Queen definitely is a net negative.
I don't think lifelong Americans can really understand that since we grew up in a culture without hereditary nobility. Many europeans are unhappy supporting their royalty. The only thing I can figure is that permanent, apolitical leadership gives a comforting sense of stability, though at great financial cost.
A Swedish friend of mine told me that when Obama recently stopped off for a day in Stockholm they booked the best hotel. Not the Penthouse or the top few floors, the entire fucking hotel.
...the American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology published a case report of a delivery in which an infant was found to be suffering such injury although the physician by her own account had not applied any excessive traction during the birth.
It seems it would be easy to point out the a jury that there are a couple self-interested parties involved in this paper.
But, that works both ways, doesn't it? The legal profession is all too eager to leverage people's lack of critical thinking skills when it comes trial time. Hell, they pretty much comb the jury pool for those least likely to be able to form a coherent thought.
Don't you mean prosecuting attorneys? Or are you being sarcastic? I don't think the sarcasm really makes sense. No, they wouldn't want the jurors to believe everything the state says, but they sure as hell want jurors who'll buy into "infinitesimal doubt equals reasonable doubt". Or "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit".
So professor, without knowing exactly what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each others heads open and feast on the goo inside?
And 150 years ago some enterprising lawyer would have sued Pasteur for pulling the rug out from under that lawyer's business of suing people for emitting disease-causing miasma.
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OT: Dutch king declares end of the welfare state. (But only in Dutchia or whatever it's called.)
http://www.euronews.com/2013/0.....are-state/
And Euronews attacks him for it. In a "News" column.
Euronews is the worst sort of socialist toadies. They make BBC World Service look positively Randian.
I like that region. Belgium went 535 days without a government. The Belgians were really embarrassed about it too. They the very few of them I know thought I was weird for thinking it the BEST THING EVER.
jesse: blink twice if this is a stroke and not an autocorrect disaster.
It may be a stroke, what did I fuck up?
I guess you're just on comma/m-dash rationing? I got confused. Maybe I'm having the stroke. Send halp!
My writing could have been clearer. Didn't FoE bravely continue commenting through a stroke recently?
Like my own commenting, it is difficult to tell whether H&R regulars is commenting through a stroke or commenting whilst stroking themselves. Glad you're okay and I'm okay.
Indeed. I generally just assume that there's some kind of stroke involved, but that may just be overexposure to SugarFree's fiction.
Brett, were you in the South Bay of LA for part of your honeymoon?
I like that they claim the French as some sort of positive case study for the efficacy of socialism in that article.
France unemployment: 10.8
Netherlands unemployment: 8.7.
Bad in both places, but I hardly think comparing the Netherlands to France makes the Netherlands look bad.
Obviously if it were up to me I'd get rid of the whole goddamn thing and abolish the monarchy. I don't understand these European countries that spend an asston maintaining figureheads with no actual political power.
Seems preferable to the US practice of spending an asston maintaining figureheads with actual political power. Our country might fare better if the ceremonial aspects of the head of state weren't constantly being used to further the political agenda of the current head of government.
You could always just cut out the ceremonial aspect of government entirely and stop using human beings as nothing more than pro-state propaganda tools.
People like parades and ceremonies. You can either deal with that reality by providing depoliticized venues for it, or someone is going to fill the vacuum with a politicized version.
Having a president who has to fulfill the roles of both pomp and running the country takes away from the president's ability to spend his energy running the country.
So yeah, having a King or Queen definitely is a net negative.
I'd take that figure and any other figure those propagandists put out with a mountain of salt.
I don't think lifelong Americans can really understand that since we grew up in a culture without hereditary nobility. Many europeans are unhappy supporting their royalty. The only thing I can figure is that permanent, apolitical leadership gives a comforting sense of stability, though at great financial cost.
And then in the countries without hereditary monarchies there's an odd obsession with other countries' monarchies.
And to be fair, the elected figurehead presidents aren't cost-free, either.
A Swedish friend of mine told me that when Obama recently stopped off for a day in Stockholm they booked the best hotel. Not the Penthouse or the top few floors, the entire fucking hotel.
We find the plaintiff to be a waste of skin. The bailiff may fire when ready.
Bah, the plaintiffs are the kids, I meant the lawyers were the waste of skin.
I was watching Matlock in a bar last night. The sound wasn't on but I got the gist of it.
...the American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology published a case report of a delivery in which an infant was found to be suffering such injury although the physician by her own account had not applied any excessive traction during the birth.
It seems it would be easy to point out the a jury that there are a couple self-interested parties involved in this paper.
Then again, juries seem to take things said by people in white lab coats as gospel.
So if we put a priest in a white lab coat...?
He has degrees in religosity and religonomy.
Nice, MS.
But, that works both ways, doesn't it? The legal profession is all too eager to leverage people's lack of critical thinking skills when it comes trial time. Hell, they pretty much comb the jury pool for those least likely to be able to form a coherent thought.
Correct, defense attorneys want jurors that will believe everything the State says.
Don't you mean prosecuting attorneys? Or are you being sarcastic? I don't think the sarcasm really makes sense. No, they wouldn't want the jurors to believe everything the state says, but they sure as hell want jurors who'll buy into "infinitesimal doubt equals reasonable doubt". Or "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit".
And this entire discussion ignores civil and tort litigation.
So professor, without knowing exactly what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each others heads open and feast on the goo inside?
Irrelevant Authority
Man, do not let the URKOBOLD see you referring to monkeys are irrelevant.
Dr. Chimp isn't a monkey, he's a damn dirty ape.
Also he's the world's most distinguished living chemist. He's only irrelevant if we're talking about fidelity.
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DON'T MENTION THE SHEEP!
A large volume of birth-injury litigation goes on as a result
But these are clean jobs, performed by highly trained professionals.
Just the sort of jobs America needs in the 21st century!
And 150 years ago some enterprising lawyer would have sued Pasteur for pulling the rug out from under that lawyer's business of suing people for emitting disease-causing miasma.
Leech breeders v Semmelweis
Nice.
Miasma? Aren't those drinks served at brunch?
Sucks to your ass-mar!
Lawyer: Objection!
Judge: On what grounds?
Lawyer: This line of questioning is detrimental to my case!
Judge: Overruled.
OT:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/24153252
There was a SWAT team deployed during the Navy Yard shooting. They were ordered to stand down, while the shooting was still going on.
Somebody tell me why SWAT teams exist again? (Rhetorical, I've read Radley's book)
Well, the good news is that this is getting covered by a MSM outlet.
Somebody tell me why SWAT teams exist again?
To shoot puppies and innocent bystanders.
Throw flashbangs and shove 12 yoa girls on the floor, rifles at their heads.
They were ordered to stand down, while the shooting was still going on.
Ordered to?
"What, are you crazy? I'm not going out there if he's gonna shoot back! I could get hurt."
I have heard but cannot confirm that Ken Levine sucks donkey dick.
Law school: turning nerds into self-centered thugs since 1906.
I was just thinking that "peer review" of lawyers' arguments might really be hilarious!
🙂
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