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A.M. Links: Morsi's Ouster Provokes Mixed Reactions, French Officials Are Really Snoopy Too, Prosecutors Release Video of Acquitted Cop Striking Teen

J.D. Tuccille | 7.5.2013 9:00 AM

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  • Former President Mohamed Morsi
    Agência Brasil

    Arab leaders are happy about Morsi's ouster as president of Egypt, but the African Union is bent out of shape over the whole coup d'etat thing.

  • France, unsurprisingly, turns out to have a program of Internet and phone surveillance, too. The French government is creepy and intrusive? You don't say.
  • The U.S. unemployment rate remains at an official 7.6 percent. Labor participation is still crappy.
  • The U.S. government sent an arrest warrant for Edward Snowden to Ireland, on the off chance he passes through the country on his way to his final destination. Meanwhile, Russia's government would like the whistleblower to just go.
  • The names of 80 civilians killed by American drone strikes in Yemen since 2009 are included in a new human rights report, along with details of the lethal attacks.
  • Cops in Henderson, Nevada commandered private homes as lookout posts and arrested the residents when they objected. That adds "Third Amendment" to the officers' lifetime achievement list of constitutional violations.
  • The U.K. National Health Service has staggered along into its 65th year, and continues to provide an excellent example of just how really shitty government-run health care can be.
  • After a police officer was acquitted of charges that he assaulted a teenaged suspect — an attack caught on video that was barred from admission as evidence at trial — St. Louis prosecutors released the footage to news organizations.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    The U.S. government sent an arrest warrant for Edward Snowden to Ireland, on the off chance he passes through the country on his way to his final destination.

    The world, including Russia, is America’s bitch. That’s got to feel good for them.

    1. vanessamcclelland02   12 years ago

      my co-worker’s half-sister makes $76 every hour on the computer. She has been out of work for 5 months but last month her pay was $18019 just working on the computer for a few hours. Here’s the site to read more…. http://www.cnn13.com

      1. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

        No hop-ons.

        1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

          You’re saying that to the bot in a $4,000 suit? C’mon!

          1. Agammamon   12 years ago

            So this is the magic trick, huh?

            1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

              It’s an illusion. Tricks are what whores do for money. Or for candy

              1. Agammamon   12 years ago

                Uh, where’s the twenty?

  2. Rich   12 years ago

    the unemployment rate stayed at 7.6% vs. expectations that it would fall to 7.5%.

    I initially had expected it to fall to 6.8%; but my third revision was right on the money!

    1. Fatty Bolger   12 years ago

      I expected it to be worse than expected. Works every time. Well, unless there’s a presidential election next month, and a Democratic incumbent needs his ass saved.

      1. Rich   12 years ago

        Whenever that ploy is invoked, think “So-called ‘experts’ fuck up again.”

    2. CE   12 years ago

      That’s okay, you can revise it back two months from now, when no one’s watching.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    That adds “Third Amendment” to the officers’ lifetime achievement list of constitutional violations.

    But police don’t look anything like soldiers!

    1. Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)   12 years ago

      They tend to be fatter and bluer – but they make up for it by being quicker to use violence.

    2. Brett L   12 years ago

      Jesus. We used to joke about how at least we still had the 3A. FML.

    3. VG Zaytsev   12 years ago

      But police don’t look anything like soldiers!

      Nope, they sure don’t

  4. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

    The Atlas of Prejudice is satire, but some day taxpayers’ dollars will be used to create one for realsies

    1. Rich   12 years ago

      That’s great, ifh! Thanks!

      I suspect the “satire” could prove very useful to the traveler, like those guides that tell you about gestures that are insulting to certain nationalities.

      1. AlmightyJB   12 years ago

        “gestures that are insulting to certain nationalities”

        Where can I get one of those.

        1. Rich   12 years ago

          Let Cracked get you started.

        2. Brett L   12 years ago

          They were giving Frenchmen the two-fingered salute?

    2. Hash Brown   12 years ago

      Interesting that the Europe-by-Penis-Size graphic uses darker and darker browns to indicate larger and larger penises.

      1. AlmightyJB   12 years ago

        I do hope the women here realize those measurements are in metric and not inches. We don’t need what few libertarian women we have in this country moving to Europe.

        1. Brett L   12 years ago

          I have it on good authority that bathing regularly is worth 5 cm.

    3. MJGreen   12 years ago

      I love how practical the German one is. Gas is produced here. Gas travels through here. That’s what matters.

  5. Rich   12 years ago

    The French government is creepy and intrusive?

    Mais oui!

  6. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

    False consciousness!

    Why I Am Leaving the Democratic Party

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      Being part of electing the first mixed-race leader of the free world was an electrifying experience,

      Stupid ****.

      This would be like IFH voting Labor at the last election only because their leader had a vulva.

      1. umh   12 years ago

        There are more single issue voters than you may think.

      2. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

        Dolores!!!!!!

      3. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

        But it was historic!

    2. Marshall Gill   12 years ago

      Being part of electing the first mixed-race leader of the free world was an electrifying experience, and one I hope to tell my grandchildren about as many times as they will hear it.

      Science H. Logic!

      1. John   12 years ago

        Because it is his world. We just live in it. The whole point of the 08 election was not to elect the best qualified person. It was to give douchebags like this guy the thrill of being part of history. We are all just actors in his personal drama.

        1. Ted S.   12 years ago

          It was to give douchebags like this guy

          Woman of color, as she claims later in the article to be.

          1. John   12 years ago

            My mistake. Douchebags like this woman of color then.

            1. Brett L   12 years ago

              Actually, you should read the article. She’s the classic liberal mugged by reality. You should be welcoming her with open arms. She actually read something by the other side (The American Conservative) identified with it, and decided to change.

              1. John   12 years ago

                Wow. I will read it. After the cop story below, I need something to make me feel better.

              2. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

                You should be welcoming her with open arms.

                Agreed. While her reason for voting for Obama was asinine, it took some critical thought to reach her conclusions. Good for her. Now if she’d only read some libertarian philosophy…

                1. VG Zaytsev   12 years ago

                  The reasons that most people vote for anyone are asinine. Identity politics trumps reasoned decisions for 29 out of 30 voters.

            2. Agammamon   12 years ago

              “Douchebags like this woman of color then.”

              Now you’re just being redundant.

              1. Irish   12 years ago

                I don’t know what you mean by this, but it sounds pretty fucking racist.

                1. Agammamon   12 years ago

                  Anyone who identifies themselves by the term “woman of color”, rather than as, say, by ethnicity or nationality is a douchebag.

                  1. Irish   12 years ago

                    Okay. I was hoping you meant her word choice and not the fact that she’s, you know, a black woman.

                  2. Zeb   12 years ago

                    I agree that the “person of color” thing is fucking stupid (what color? am I a person of white?). But I like to know at least one more thing about a person before deciding they are a douchebag.

                    1. sgs   12 years ago

                      That’s because you’re a fucking douchebag yourself and nant people to give you more slack on it.

        2. Rasilio   12 years ago

          Wait, was there a decent candidate in 08? I mean yeah we had Ron Paul in the primaries but even as much as folks here would have liked him he has some serious foibles that would probably have made him a bad presidental choice.

          Outside of that as bad as Obama has been it is still entirely arguable that he was in fact the best choice from among a VERY bad lot.

      2. Rich   12 years ago

        I hope to tell my grandchildren about as many times as they will hear it.

        And *they* hope you will change.

        1. DontShootMe   12 years ago

          I predict much yelling at her grandkids. “If you keep doing that with your eyes, they’ll get stuck like that!”

          1. Rich   12 years ago

            RACIST!

    3. Rich   12 years ago

      As a woman of color, the Democratic Party is more of an inheritance than a choice.

      Whoa. I thought the Democratic Party was a *donkey*.

    4. robc   12 years ago

      Every president has been mixed race.

      One drop rule, right?

      1. Somalian Road Corporation   12 years ago

        Apparently the one drop rule is flexible; just ask George Zimmerman.

        1. Irish   12 years ago

          Zimmerman has more white drops. That makes him guilty, no matter what the evidence says.

        2. Agammamon   12 years ago

          No, no – the one drop rule applies to Zimmerman also. One drop of white means that you’re racist.

      2. CE   12 years ago

        Go back far enough, and we’re all African-Americans.

    5. Metazoan   12 years ago

      I’m guessing I’m going to get a lot of horrified looks in the coming weeks and months when I tell people I’m a conservative. That statement does not go over well in a city as liberal as New York, but I can’t hide who I am.

      That’s a load of shit. I have plenty of friends- New Yorkers- who know me as a libertarian. I’ve never had people actually not want to hang out with me or meet with me or do business with me because of it.

      1. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

        If nothing else, she’ll find out who her real friends are.

      2. Dweebston   12 years ago

        Sampling bias, broheim.

      3. Rhywun   12 years ago

        She was probably hanging out with an “everything is politics” crowd – normal people aren’t like that.

  7. Ted S.   12 years ago

    Woman gets hit in head by frisbee; bitches to media about it.

    Sorry for the Google translate link; it’s not as if I speak Finnish well enough to translate the whole thing (and the comments) myself. Suffice it to say that the amount of “we have to punish somebody” butthurt over what was really a freak accident is saddening.

  8. Bee Tagger   12 years ago

    Cops in Henderson, Nevada commandered private homes as lookout posts and arrested the residents when they objected.

    Not a bad deal if they washed my windows, I suppose.

    1. Hash Brown   12 years ago

      But they’ll confiscate all your porn.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    …St. Louis prosecutors released the footage to news organizations.

    Someone’s going to have an icy reception next time their office has to deal with city po-po.

    1. LarryA   12 years ago

      I doubt it. Releasing the video after the cop was acquitted and can’t be tried again is saying, “See what our boys can get away with because FYTW?”

  10. Swiss Servator - past LTC(ret)   12 years ago

    “Arab leaders are happy about Morsi’s ouster as president of Egypt, but the African Union is bent out of shape over the whole coup d’etat thing.”

    There simply are not enough words to detail the vasty size and massive weight of the irony in the AU’s butthurt.

  11. John   12 years ago

    Is it bad that I half expected Obama to intervene and put Morsis back in office? You know because we just haven’t given the Egyptians enough reason to hate us and Obama never met an Islamic fascist he didn’t like.

    1. Brett L   12 years ago

      Nah. We’ll just keep the MilAid flowing so the canal stays open… While Cairo burns and Obama fiddles.

      1. John   12 years ago

        And the Egyptians starve. Who would have thought that letting a bunch of religious fanatics take over a country that depends on tourism to keep from starving would turn out badly?

        1. Brett L   12 years ago

          Given that they were already importing several billion dollars worth of food… everyone? I’m not saying the US should do anything different, except follow their own guidelines on MilAid and cut it off until Congress has reviewed the new reality on the ground. Fuck it. Let them sort themselves out. I’m glad I got to see Cairo in 2010.

          1. John   12 years ago

            I have never been. But I have known a fair number of people who have and who lived there. All of them loved it. As crowded and dirty and crazy as it is, there was something about it they loved.

          2. Mike M.   12 years ago

            There were plenty of idiots around here, including a few of the Reason contributors, who thought that this revolution would be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

            1. John   12 years ago

              Reason’s naivety about the Muslim Brotherhood was embarrassing.

            2. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

              Sliced bread is an abomination before the Lord! Knives are for beheading infidels, not for cutting up bread.

              1. Brett L   12 years ago

                Sliced bread is an abomination before the Lord

                Apparently, AGW has been fucking the Egyptians since the fall of Carthage, because the Breadbasket of the Mediterranean during Alexander’s time wasn’t worth shit between the fall of the Roman Empire and the invention of the telegraph.

            3. robc   12 years ago

              Getting rid of tyrants is always worth the gamble.

              Egypt handled it right. That got rid of one, got another, got rid of him.

              If they keep it up until they get it right, good for them.

              1. John   12 years ago

                Nothing wrong with getting rid of Mubarach. But Reason did a lot of pretending that the Muslim Brotherhood really wasn’t that bad, when it it was obvious they were horrible.

                1. Agammamon   12 years ago

                  Yeah, well to be fair – so did pretty much everyone else, especially our government and its ‘experts’.

                  You’d think the long string of screw-ups over the last decade would give these people some sort of humility when it comes to thinking about interfering in someone else’s revolution.

              2. Agammamon   12 years ago

                Or even after they get it right – even good governments morph into tyranny if left in place long enough.

                1. robc   12 years ago

                  even good governments morph into tyranny if left in place long enough.

                  Its almost like something Jefferson and Franklin warned about.

                  1. Brett L   12 years ago

                    Something, something “Tree of Liberty periodically refreshed” something something.

                    1. robc   12 years ago

                      Something, something “Tree of Liberty periodically refreshed” something something.

                      That and something something “if you can keep it”.

          3. Fatty Bolger   12 years ago

            Egypt is likely to get Saudi and other money, now that the Islamists are back out of power, so money from us won’t be as urgent for them.

            1. Brett L   12 years ago

              I think I read they were getting $8B from Qatar before. How much do they need if that wasn’t doing it?

    2. Rasilio   12 years ago

      Given the close ties between the Egyptian Miitary and our Military I’m thinking that there are some folks in the Pentagon who would have put the kibosh on that idea

  12. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    It’s a stupid question, but… why was the video in the police beating case excluded?

    Was it an invasion of the cops’ privacy to show their images as they sat there in open court?

    1. Fluffy   12 years ago

      The cops kept letting the teen suspect victim go, and then claiming they couldn’t find him to testify and authenticate the tape.

      1. John   12 years ago

        I would think there would be other ways to do so. Some things speak for themselves. The video is one of those things. Let the jury decide if it is in fact the cops in question on the tape.

        1. Fluffy   12 years ago

          Any technical reason they could find to not use this tape was going to be used.

          Come on, man, you know that.

          The judge tried to suppress the tape and prevents its release to the media, too. He just made a mistake in filling out the gag order.

          1. John   12 years ago

            It is a put up job no doubt. In all seriousness, some things are self authenticating. If fluffy is on trial for murder and we stumble on a video tape of him committing the crime, the prosecution would not have to produce the guy who shot the video to get it in court. All they would need to do is get someone who knows fluffy and the victim can look at the tape and go “yeah that is fluffy shooting Joe alright.”.

            What a joke.

  13. Bee Tagger   12 years ago

    France, unsurprisingly, turns out to have a program of Internet and phone surveillance, too.

    Can sneering be compressed to save database space?

  14. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

    Vice Cry-Baby of the Week: A penis-biter vs will.i.am

  15. Rich   12 years ago

    Kerry said, “We do not fire when we know there are children or collateral . . . . We just don’t.”

    But children *and* collateral … Smoke ’em!

    1. John   12 years ago

      That is either complete horseshit or the Secretary of State just told the world the US will refuse to wage war in the future. You can’t wage war without collateral damage.

      I am thinking it is the former so I am not worried. If there is one thing you can trust these people to do is lie.

      1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

        Didn’t we nuke some kids a couple of times? And firebomb cities? I rather suspect killing kids is something we do intend to do, even if it’s not the reason we blow them up.

        1. John   12 years ago

          It doesn’t matter really which it is but Kerry is appallingly stupid or appallingly dishonest or both.

          1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

            Wasn’t he supposed to be brilliant or something? What is it with the left always saying that about not-very-smart politicians?

            1. John   12 years ago

              And they are obsessed with how everyone else is “compensating for something”. It never dawns on them that maybe their insistence that every single one of their politicians is brilliant might be compensating for something.

            2. DontShootMe   12 years ago

              He was smart enough to marry a lot of money. That appears to be about the extent of it.

              1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

                Free ketchup for life. Not a bad gig, really.

    2. Brett L   12 years ago

      Oh, John Kerry. The guy who lied about his own war experiences? I trust him.

      Seriously, he’s the worst SecState since… I dunno. Who was SecState during the SpanAm War?

      1. Somalian Road Corporation   12 years ago

        On the other hand, it allows me to dust off this gem from the 2004 elections.

      2. KDN   12 years ago

        John Sherman, author of the Sherman anti-trust act.Though he was replaced as soon as the war started.

    3. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

      Perhaps, the solution to the problem of killing innocent people, is to not be fighting wars against insignificant threats?

      Just a thought.

      1. John   12 years ago

        If you are not willing to or don’t like killing people, you probably ought to avoid fighting wars where you can.

        1. Rasilio   12 years ago

          This is inevitably true. The only way to truly win a war is to be able to show that you are willing to take it all the way and give your enemy the same treatment that Rome gave Carthage.

          The problem here is this limited asymmetrical war BS is not really a war, it is random assassination at best

    4. CE   12 years ago

      No, we send a drone.

  16. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

    Public opinion is turning against shark’s fin, but official action is lacking

    Perhaps official action isn’t needed…

    1. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

      The world would be a terrible place without sharks.

      1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

        Actually, it likely would be.

        1. sgs   12 years ago

          Nonsense.

  17. John   12 years ago

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/04/…..?hpt=wo_c2

    I don’t like Morales. But holding up his plane in hopes of getting Snowden is epically stupid even by Obama’s standards. My God these people are stupid.

    1. Rich   12 years ago

      Obama administration officials declined to comment

      Hang on, John. They may yet compound the situation further by calling Bolivia a banana republic or something.

  18. John   12 years ago

    http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/07/03/59061.htm

    I know this got posted already. But this is bad even for cops. They are just animals.

    1. Fluffy   12 years ago

      What’s funny to me about this story is that these guys were SO BOUND AND DETERMINED to pull this stunt that they shot the occupants of the house with non-lethal rounds to get their way.

      It was so incredibly important that they have this surveillance point to investigate run of the mill domestic violence that they ran a tactical op to wipe these homeowners out David Koresh style.

      I’m surprised they didn’t use an armored vehicle and helicopters.

      1. John   12 years ago

        At least the animals in Boston could say they were looking for a terrorist. But domestic violence? They really are always on 11. Total violence is all they know now.

      2. SweatingGin   12 years ago

        Nah, they just wanted to use it. Once the owner said no, then they wanted to punish him. And anyone else they could.

    2. Ted S.   12 years ago

      I know this got posted already.

      So post it again and again!

    3. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

      Well, I see no reason that 3A shouldn’t get violated along with the rest of them.

  19. John   12 years ago

    http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/…..el-moment/

    Chris Matthews is still appallingly stupid.

    1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

      I have some other people that have different views too.

      He has people? Fuck off, slaver

      1. Rich   12 years ago

        He has them in a binder.

    2. Somalian Road Corporation   12 years ago

      Yeah, expressing the slightest doubts about the immediate canonization of St. Trayvon is one of the fastest ways to work people up into a lather, I’m finding. And my position is merely “reasonable doubt exists”.

      1. Rich   12 years ago

        Yep. Brace yourself for the riots.

        1. John   12 years ago

          People like Matthews are having orgasms at the thought. It is so pathetic. They picked that case to publicize for the single purpose of creating a good race riot.

          1. Rich   12 years ago

            It’ll be, um, interesting when Matthews or someone “like him” gets the Reginald Denny treatment.

            1. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

              That’s what’s so stupid about self-flagellating liberals like Matthews encouraging this. If blacks do end up rioting in the wake of any kind of non-conviction, they won’t distinguish between honest-to-goodness racists and the limp-dicked SWPLs that constantly try to pretend how “down they are with the brothers.”

              1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

                their decoder rings won’t protect them?

                1. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

                  their decoder rings won’t protect them?

                  They all say “Be sure to drink your ovaltine.”

              2. John   12 years ago

                The sad fact is, other than catching a few white people at the wrong place at the wrong time, any riots will harm black people. If there was a race riot in Washington, the cops and National Guard would basically barricade in the black neighborhoods, let them run rampant for a few days, go in and shoot a few of them and arrest a few thousand, and that would be it. The overwhelming majority of people harmed by such an event would be black people.

                Not that it would be any better if they harmed white people. But people like Matthews claim to be on the blacks’ side but would love nothing better than to see a mob burn down of a bunch of black owned businesses and homes.

                1. Somalian Road Corporation   12 years ago

                  Jello Biafra had some wise words to say on this subject before terminal Bush Derangement Syndrome consumed his brain.

                  1. Gbob   12 years ago

                    Jello Biafra had some wise words to say on this subject before terminal Bush Derangement Syndrome consumed his brain.

                    California Uber Alles ranks up there with Moon is a Harsh Mistress in turning 13 year old me into a libertarian leaning punk. In a better world, Jello would have continued down the path of questioning all authority, rather than becoming a boot licking lefty. Alas.

                2. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

                  But people like Matthews claim to be on the blacks’ side but would love nothing better than to see a mob burn down of a bunch of black owned businesses and homes.

                  It’s a lot easier to agitate for “social justice” when the Aggrieved Minority Du Jour is tearing their own neighborhoods apart.

          2. Atanarjuat   12 years ago

            Well that would distract from the Creased One’s scandals nicely.

          3. Hash Brown   12 years ago

            I’m guessing that that’s why the MSM is making the prosecution’s case sound a lot more damning than it is. If/when GZ is acquitted, anyone who’s not paying close attention will assume it was racism, straight up.

            1. John   12 years ago

              That is what they are doing. If you just listen to the news, which a lot of people do, you would have no idea what a joke this trial is. You will logically conclude that acquitting Zimmerman is a miscarriage of justice. Thank the lying media for anything bad that happens after this trial.

        2. VG Zaytsev   12 years ago

          Yep. Brace yourself for the riots.

          If African Americans riot against Hispanics, which side does the democrats support for political advantage?

          1. Irish   12 years ago

            They’d blame white people for making minority groups that should find common cause in shared oppression fight each other.

      2. John   12 years ago

        Everyone Matthews knows thinks Zimmerman is a “bad guy”. That clearly is enough to convict him. What a piece of shit Matthews is.

        1. Fluffy   12 years ago

          I thought Matthews was acknowledging that there’s bias against Zimmerman.

          Which would be a rare thing to see from a pundit anywhere.

          1. John   12 years ago

            Maybe. I didn’t look at it that way. I looked at it as him saying all right thinking people know he is a bad guy. I thought to point was to say that anyone who took Zimmerman’s side is some kind of mysterious other. But I can see where he might have been saying there is a bias against him now that you say that.

  20. John   12 years ago

    http://www.slate.com/articles/…..uture.html

    Progs, now that we won “gay marriage” it is time to do something really revolutionary, throw more money at the educations system. If it wasn’t so pathetic, it would be funny.

    1. DJF   12 years ago

      I did not click on the link but I am guessing they want billions for gender neutral bathrooms in schools. Or is that next weeks agenda?

      1. John   12 years ago

        They are ready to admit that maybe four year degrees in puppetry isn’t such a good idea. So there is that. But mostly it is the same old shit.

        1. DJF   12 years ago

          “””‘We also should quickly and dramatically reform our red-tape-filled work and tax laws, so ordinary households can employ immigrants and see they get the Social Security they deserve.”””

          Sounds like the Slate crowd is having trouble getting someone to clean their toilets and their illegal alien who was doing the job is now too old and they need to dump her onto Social Security..

          1. John   12 years ago

            Do you think his failure to mention that the employer has to pay half of the employees social security taxes was intentional or is he just that stupid and has no idea how social security actually works?

            1. DJF   12 years ago

              He writes for Slate, that means he does not have a clue.

            2. Rasilio   12 years ago

              Um, the employer does not pay any of the employees Social Security taxes, they just hide half of the social security taxes that the employee does pay from him

              1. John   12 years ago

                Yes and no. Strictly speaking the employer pays. How much of that cost he is able to pass onto his employees depends on the labor market and where the employees’ wages are on the demand curve. Just because the employer no longer has to pay, doesn’t mean he will pass the entire amount on to the employees. Some of it sure. But likely not all of it.

          2. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

            so ordinary households can employ immigrants

            WTF? How many “ordinary households” have EVER had the means to employ servants?

            1. John   12 years ago

              In places like El Paso they do. If you just import enough really poor desperate people, most people with a good job can hire a servant.

              1. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

                I guess if the immigrants didn’t mind sleeping in the Tuff Shed in the backyard they could afford it. But hell, the median income is only about $40K and most people are living paycheck-to-paycheck as it is.

            2. VG Zaytsev   12 years ago

              I’m pretty sure he means the guy that cuts your grass for $40 / month and the gal that cleans your house a couple of times a month for $60/day.

              Not a live in valet.

              1. robc   12 years ago


                I’m pretty sure he means the guy that cuts your grass for $40 / month and the gal that cleans your house a couple of times a month for $60/day.

                Exactly.

              2. Rasilio   12 years ago

                $40 a month?

                Where the hell can you find someone to mow your lawn that cheap?

                Even when I was in Louisville the cheapest I could find was $60 a week

            3. robc   12 years ago

              How many “ordinary households” have EVER had the means to employ servants?

              I have a number of middle class friends who bring in a housecleaner one day a week.

              1. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

                I have a number of middle class friends who bring in a housecleaner one day a week

                Which should really be a refutation of the leftist meme about how tough the middle class has it these days.

                If you can afford to hire a grown-ass person to mow your lawn and clean your house, you’re not suffering.

            4. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

              In places like the US, house servants are rare.

              In Brazil, if you’re a woman, you either have a maid, or you are one.

        2. VG Zaytsev   12 years ago

          They are ready to admit that maybe four year degrees in puppetry isn’t such a good idea.

          Right, everyone knows that good puppetry requires at least six years of edumacation.

          http://www.drama.uconn.edu/pup…..ourse.html

          1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

            In our graduate program we have had students with undergraduate degrees in English Literature, Music, Acting, Technical Theatre, Graphic Arts, Sculpture, costuming, Political Science and Religion/Philosophy.

            What, no IT graduates, lawyers or nurses want a MFA in Puppetry? Colour me astonished

          2. Brett L   12 years ago

            The state universities in FL are fighting tooth and nail against having to tie into Department of Labor statistics like FL community colleges have done because their outcomes will be no better and they know it.

    2. Careless   12 years ago

      “Let’s dedicate the next four years to doing for education what Congress and the president did for health care.”

      yikes.

      1. John   12 years ago

        Why does that guy hate children so much?

      2. Brett L   12 years ago

        Who knew the end was coming so quickly?

      3. Fatty Bolger   12 years ago

        Make it less effective and more expensive? Aw, they shouldn’t sell themselves short, they’ve already been doing that for years.

    3. Brett L   12 years ago

      Well, the gay activists are about to join the deaf activists and the MADD people as people who have triumphed so thoroughly that they no longer have any reason for founding non-profits and talking to important people. I expect full-retard to follow anon.

      1. John   12 years ago

        It will morph from “give us equal rights” to “use the power of law and the gun to ensure no one objects to us or in any way makes us feel uncomfortable”.

    4. Rasilio   12 years ago

      Yeah it is actually kind of funny, ask anyone, especially those wishing the Air Force had to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber which the US spent more on, the Military or Education and you’d get about 100% agreement that it was the Military and yet every year from 1990 through 2010 Defense Spending was greater than Education Spending with defense only slightly overtaking education in the last 3 years thanks to the combination of the recession hitting state and local budgets harder and the Feds funding 2 wars.

      Here is the chart showing it…

      http://www.usgovernmentspendin…..tcn_30t20t

  21. Silver Fox   12 years ago

    Maybe some day they’ll get around to educating the students, instead of protecting them from anything that might be “offensive”.

    1. Rich   12 years ago

      “the chancellor” enforced a policy against wearing religious items.

      Fortunately, “Fuck The Chancellor” T-shirts are not religious items.

      1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

        They’re heretical, aren’t they?

    2. John   12 years ago

      Remember, leftists don’t want to ban religious expression. They just want to ensure no one ever does so in public and that is different.

      1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

        Look, you’re free to *believe* whatever you want. And you’re free to get together each week in a house of worship to ritually affirm your beliefs. But if you insist on *acting* on your beliefs in public, then of course you have to be subject to legal restraint. What are you, some kind of fundamentalist?

        1. John   12 years ago

          And there damn well better be transgendered bathrooms wherever you have this little meeting of yours.

    3. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

      “It’s possible that political correctness got out of hand.”

      Fuck these people. Anyone with a bit of common sense could see that implementing policies like campus speech codes in an environment steeped in Marxist ideology would eventually lead to a reactionary culture of inverted puritanism, only with whites/males/Christians marked out for ridicule and ostracism.

      This is why when people like Tony assert how much more enlightened the university environment is, incidents like these need to be thrown in their face.

      Nuke universities today.

  22. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Mitchell claims that defendant officers, including Cawthorn and Worley and Sgt. Michael Waller then “conspired among themselves to force Anthony Mitchell out of his residence and to occupy his home for their own use.” (Waller is identified as a defendant in the body of the complaint, but not in the heading of it.)
    The complaint continues: “Defendant Officer David Cawthorn outlined the defendants’ plan in his official report: ‘It was determined to move to 367 Evening Side and attempt to contact Mitchell. If Mitchell answered the door he would be asked to leave. If he refused to leave he would be arrested for Obstructing a Police Officer. If Mitchell refused to answer the door, force entry would be made and Mitchell would be arrested.'”

    RULE OF LAW!

    Those motherfuckers should be making license plates from now until the day they die.

  23. John   12 years ago

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/…..-soars-143

    Labor force participation rate still sucks and under employment is still appalling making the unemployment rate one of the more meaningless statistics there is.

    1. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

      The labor market is in a catch-22 right now: the participation rate has dropped so low that large increases in the rate will inevitably lead to increases in the U3. Theoretically, more people entering the workforce is good, but a dramatic increase in that figure would catapult the U3 back into the 8s or 9s.

  24. John   12 years ago

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/beh…..hotos.html

    God the 70s were ugly. But I still remember it fondly.

    1. Fluffy   12 years ago

      What’s crazy is looking at photos from my own family.

      In the 60’s, they were somewhat poor, but if you look at their photos everyone looks dignified and well-dressed. Like photos of the audience at baseball games from the 50’s.

      Then the 70’s come, and suddenly they have a lot of money, but it’s the 70’s so they all look like fucking hobos and backround extras from Boogie Nights. It’s weird.

      1. John   12 years ago

        It is. My father was the third of a single mother. His dad died in a construction accident when he was five. Back in those days a woman losing a husband meant poverty. But you see pictures of my dad and his brothers and mother from the 50s and they look like something out of Leave it to Beaver even though they really didn’t have a pot to piss in as my father says.

        In contrast, I see me and my nice middle class siblings in the 70s, and my sisters looked like groupies at a Led Zeppelin concert and my brothers looked like Mexican banditos. Wow did the world change quick.

    2. Fatty Bolger   12 years ago

      They were, and I don’t. I often think of the 70’s as the “ugly decade.” It doesn’t help that I was far too young to enjoy the good stuff.

      1. John   12 years ago

        I was too young too. Maybe I just remember my childhood fondly.

    3. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

      It’s sobering to realize that the bride in that pic from Minnesota is probably my mom’s age.

      1. John   12 years ago

        Isn’t it? Whenever I see pictures of hippies and rock concerts and such from the 60s I can’t help but think “that is probably someone’s grandmother standing there smoking that joint yelling “we love you Mick”.

    4. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

      I loved being a kid in Rochester, MN in the 70’s. We ran all over the place, from dawn til dusk. My Ma had a coach’s whistle she would blow at dinnertime so we would know it was time to come home. Lemonade stands weren’t required to be licensed. And I had cute clothes, so there!

      1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

        My neighbor had a huge piece of iron beam that he would smack with a sledge hammer when it was time to come home. You could hear that thing from 1/2 mile away.

  25. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    What’s funny to me about this story is that these guys were SO BOUND AND DETERMINED to pull this stunt that they shot the occupants of the house with non-lethal rounds to get their way.

    Because it never, ever, occurred to them that forcibly removing those people from their homes was outside the bounds of their authority. Because they have been reliably assured there is no limit to police authority, and no constraint on their actions.

    1. John   12 years ago

      Pretty much. The worst part about the story is not what happened so much, thought that is bad. The worst part is that so many cops were involved and apparently thought it was a good idea. No one stood up and said stop. All of them apparently thought this was perfectly legal and okay.

      If it were the product of a few bad cops, that would be bad. But it seems to be a product of an entire culture and that is a lot worse.

  26. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    The worst part is that so many cops were involved and apparently thought it was a good idea. No one stood up and said stop. All of them apparently thought this was perfectly legal and okay.

    Exactly. Was there even one guy, ONE SINGLE GUY, who said, “What the fuck do you clowns think you’re doing? You can’t do that.”

    What’s next, just randomly take people into the back yard and put a bullet in the back of their heads?

    1. John   12 years ago

      Whatever is done in an “emergency” will eventually be SOP. Really this is nothing that different than what the baboons did in Boston. So what starts as an emergency measure quickly becomes how cops deal with every investigation.

  27. Irish   12 years ago

    Even though unemployment stayed the same, I notice that labor force participation went up 0.1%. I assume the talking point will relate to the fact that increases in labor force participation are good, despite the fact that the media chose to ignore LFP for 5 years when it didn’t help their talking points.

    1. Brett L   12 years ago

      So a bunch of people who have been on the bench for more than 52 weeks took the jobs kids used to get in the summer.

      1. Fatty Bolger   12 years ago

        That’s likely. My son could barely get any interviews until he was 18 and out of high school.

        1. John   12 years ago

          The other thing that has screwed teenagers is the lawsuit industry. If one of my employees slaps some woman on the ass or breaks out with a racial slur, I am in for a world of litigation and hurt. Given those stakes, is it a smart idea to hire a teenager who has never worked before?

          1. Irish   12 years ago

            I thought you could only be found liable if you knew about the harassment and did nothing about it. Obviously they could still sue you, but I don’t think you’d be liable for an employee busting out a racial slur.

            1. Brett L   12 years ago

              You still have to pay a lawyer to petition to dismiss with prejudice.

              1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

                They should come up with a rule that allows judges to dismiss cases with extreme prejudice.

                1. Irish   12 years ago

                  When they dismiss with extreme prejudice, the theme from Shaft starts playing, the judge calls you an ignorant mother fucker, and the bailiff kicks you in the balls for “wasting the court’s sweet ass time.”

                  1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

                    I endorse this comment. The original theme, though, no covers.

                    The only enhancement is that the jury should say “Shut your mouth” after the judge calls the loser an ignorant mother fucker, then the judge says, “But I’m talking about giving him the shaft!”

            2. John   12 years ago

              True, you can’t. But did you train? Did you create a hostile environment?

            3. Rasilio   12 years ago

              The question is not what the law says, the question is how much it will cost you to defend yourself from it and the risk that the “aggrieved” party can sell a good enough sob story to a jury that they find you liable anyway

  28. Irish   12 years ago

    Iowahawk explains the unemployment numbers.

    Follow

    David Burge
    ?@iowahawkblog

    Unemployment report in a nutshell: the Taco Bell that had 30 40 hour workers now has 40 30 hour workers.

    Reply Retweet Favorite More

    1. John   12 years ago

      He is just great.

  29. VG Zaytsev   12 years ago

    And America’s greatest ally is….

    no Denmark

    1. BakedPenguin   12 years ago

      And he didn’t even mention that Denmark’s PM is cute for a politician.

  30. John   12 years ago

    http://gawker.com/man-hogties-…..-664129688

    Man hogties burglar, leaves him in the front yard for police and goes to work.

    Just Awesome.

    1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

      “That’s just the type of person he is, you know? That’s just the type of person he is. Business is business. ‘I got to take care of business, he’s safe, the police are coming, I got to go,'” Houston said.

      Too cool.

      1. Brett L   12 years ago

        As much as I hate Oklahoma, I have to admit that this is very much in their nature. Drunken criminals or incredibly competent and very little in between (except John).

    2. KDN   12 years ago

      Useful note: In NJ, if you hogtie someone and leave them it’s kidnapping. If you hogtie and gag someone and leave them in that position it’s attempted murder.

      1. John   12 years ago

        More evidence New Jersey is not a civilized state.

  31. Tim   12 years ago

    A few weeks ago I was mowing a pasture when I scared a mother duck off her nest. When she didn’t come back I gathered up her ten eggs and stuck them under a broody hen in the barn. They hatched on the fourth and now we have ten confused little ducklings. I wonder how many federal laws I have broken by doing this.

    1. Brett L   12 years ago

      Let me know if they take to swimming “like a duck to water” regardless of their “mama”. I’ve always wanted to know.

      1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

        Ducklings and chicks are raised together regularly, and don’t have a problem with swimming.

  32. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    I wonder how many federal laws I have broken by doing this.

    You may as well go whole hog; start force feeding them, to make their delicious little livers grow big and strong.

    1. lap83   12 years ago

      Pate-riarchy!

    2. Tim   12 years ago

      You sick libetarian gourmand bastard.

  33. Brett L   12 years ago

    Which one of us is this?

    Police in Seattle are investigating a Nevada man arrested near the University of Washington in a stolen pickup truck filled with weapons, body armor and suspected explosive devices.

    University of Washington police chief John Vinson said at a Thursday afternoon news conference that the man was driving a stolen truck out of Montana and had with him a scoped rifle, shotgun and fewer than 10 Molotov cocktails.

    The suspect is 21, but Vinson declined to identify him.

    1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

      Well….only one of us is from Montana…..

      1. John   12 years ago

        Brooks just took a wrong turn. Doesn’t everyone in Montana keep weapons and explosives in their pickup?

        1. Brett L   12 years ago

          Maybe he reported it stolen after a night of carousing with Epi… who actually got arrested.

    2. Rasilio   12 years ago

      “and fewer than 10 Molotov cocktails.”

      WTF?

      Fewer than 10?, Why the hell didn’t they just give the actual damn number? I mean I know being cops they are intellectually challenged when it comes to logic so math is extra hard for them but they could have at least held up the right number of fingers and said “this many” or something.

      1. Brett L   12 years ago

        Also, scoped rifle and shotgun? So fucking what? There are 3 of each of those in my house, plus two unscoped rifles and a grab-bag assortment of pistols.
        No molotovs, though. I prefer bathtub semtex.

  34. John   12 years ago

    Things were freer in the 70s. It was this sweet spot when the old conventions had been torn down but the new and worse nanny state mores hadn’t been built yet.

  35. John   12 years ago

    On other t hing about the 70s, black people were the only ones who could pull off the clothes. Look at those picture. The black couple in Chicago look good. All the white people look ridiculous.

  36. John   12 years ago

    They look good. But they would look good regardless. But granted, they do have that “hey lets get stoned and naked” look about them. Those were the days.

  37. John   12 years ago

    I am glad I was a kid in the 70s and 80s and not now. I got to be independent and do shit without being under the constant watch of my parents. Granted, a lot of it was stuff I shouldn’t been doing and I no doubt spent a lot of time bored out of my mind shooting baskets or bullshiting with my friends. But I will still take it over now even though I probably would have sold myself into slavery back then to have gotten access to a modern XBox or remote controlled plane.

  38. John   12 years ago

    That is good to hear. And I think it is. And the science has shown that being in unfamiliar circumstances and taking some kind of risk is essential to a child’s cognitive development. Basically, all of these helicopter parents are ensure their kids never fully develop.

  39. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

    Basically, all of these helicopter parents are ensure their kids never fully develop.

    As if the existence of Fark and Reddit wasn’t evidence enough of this.

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