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Condom Law Leads to Porn Industry Mayhem: Who Could Have Seen That Coming?

Permit requests plunge

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You're going to have to decide for yourselves whether this consequence is intended or not: As a result of Measure B, the ballot initiative that mandates the wearing of condoms in adult video shoots in Los Angeles, the number of film permit requests in the county have dropped off a cliff. Via the Los Angeles Daily News:

Film permits requested by the porn industry have all but ceased in Los Angeles County as producers decide how to work around much opposed law that requires actors to wear condoms during shoots.

Film LA, the non profit organization that processes permits for motion picture, television and commercial production across Los Angeles, has seen applications for permits from the adult film industry plummet to only two so far this year. In previous years, an estimated 500 film permits are requested by the adult film industry annually.

"Most production companies have ceased shooting in LA County," said Diane Duke, chief executive officer of the Canoga-Park based Free Speech Coalition, the trade organization for the adult film industry. "They have other options in other states and communities."

I have a sneaking suspicion (with no actual evidence) that porn production hasn't halted in Los Angeles just because the permitting requests have. But let's see how well the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, which pushed for passage of the initiative, is able to try to track what's going on at porn sets when even the adult film industry doesn't know.

While the condom mandates of the measure gets the most media attention because of its intrusiveness, some of the other components are probably causing problems as well. The measure demands film producers get public health permits from the county in order to film and requires training in the transmission of blood borne pathogens. I left a message with the county health department to find out how many permit requests they've received under the new regulations, but I won't hold my breath for an answer.

The Daily News notes that porn producers have shown an interest in moving out of L.A. County, targeting the small town of Camarillo to the northwest:

As quickly as the ordinance passed, producers at many adult film studios threatened to leave the San Fernando Valley, where most pornographic movies have long been made, and, if possible, the state.

"Whether it's Camarillo or another California city that is in the news because of Measure B, we strongly believe that the law is wrong, which is why we are challenging it," said Steven Hirsch, founder and co-chairman of Universal City-based Vivid Entertainment. Hirsch and others have said the industry is watching and waiting for the outcome of a lawsuit filed by Vivid against Angeles County. The suit calls Measure B unconstitutional, saying it violates actors' rights to free speech and expression.

Arguments are set to begin next month in U.S. District Court.

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  1. Gives a new meaning to “Bumpin’ at Camarillo.”

      1. OK, Camarillo Brillo.

  2. It’s both intended and unintend. This was a classic Baptist and bootleggers law. A portion of the supporters naively thought that passing a law meant that porn actors would start wearing condoms, and another part knew that a condom mandate would drive producers out of the area.

    1. Are there any ‘Baptists’ in San Fernando Valley? I mean I know that big crazy mega-church and the Xenutopian compound are in SoCal, but I’m not sure either of them really cares about pushing out the porn people (since it would be detrimental to both of their business models).

      1. Not in the literal sense, but NIMBYs are happy to push out the porn 4 TEH CHILDRENZ!

        1. Is children wandering onto porn sets a big problem in LA?

          1. The psychic pressure of all that sex being filmed behind closed doors is getting to the poor little blighters.

            1. I’m all for filming sex out from behind closed doors too.

              1. 1 out of every 20 Bang Buses has a Warty aboard.

        1. Nikki already explained everything about that. Sooooo not going to click.

          1. It’s just a fucking dictionary, dipshit.

            1. a fucking dictionary

              The Kama Sutra?

              1. That was in the Morning Links.

                https://reason.com/blog/2013/04…..nt_3676471

      2. Maybe not ‘Baptists’, but lots of neo-Puritans. Puritans got to purify. Big gulps or icky sex, it’s ALL got to go.

      3. Even in socially liberal LA, there are plenty of people that think porn is just icky. Their disgust drives them to wonder why they just can’t do it somewhere else.

    2. I don’t see how the old model of pro actresses with fake breast, bad tans and dead eyes competes against ten of thousands of natural and fresh looking college girls flipping their beans and giving blow jobs on their webcams.

      1. They still shoot studio porn? How quaint.

    3. I imagine this will be a big win for Nevada. Expect a Hollywood Junior to spring up just over the border.

  3. Yay!

    So everyone’s super-healthy now, although we just lost a shit-ton of money and drove yet another industry in this town out of state or underground.

    Hooray for progressive accomplishments!

  4. Thus is the fate of Southern California’s last remaining legitimate industry.

    1. Disney’s hitm… er lawyers would like to have a word with you.

      1. One is an organization bereft of any decency and morality, the others has actors engaged in sex scenes.

  5. The suit calls Measure B unconstitutional, saying it violates actors’ rights to free speech and expression.

    So……it’s a First Amendment issue?

    Not a lawyer, but I would have expected them to say it was unconstitutional because of the “right to privacy” – you know, that’s the part that’s supposed to keep government “out of women’s vaginas.”

    Oh well, the mandatory condom law is incredibly stupid in any case.

    1. I could be wrong, but I don’t think there is an explicit right to privacy in the constitution.

      1. No, but I’ll take it.

      2. Well there is – its in the 10th amendment.

        1. Uh, I mean 9th.

      3. Sure is…

        Amendment 9 – Construction of Constitution

        The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

      4. You haven’t been looking in the emanations and penumbras.

    2. You have to cast about to justify overturning a stupid law, whereas passing a stupid law is easy.

      The 1st Amendment should have been: “Congress shall pass no law offensive to the intelligence of even imbeciles upon pain of catapult.”

      1. “Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.”
        – Mark Twain

      2. The 1st Amendment should have been: “Congress shall pass no law”\

        fixd

        1. As long as the doctrine of incorporation applies.

    3. I don’t think there are any legitimate Constitutional grounds here. Regarding workplace regulations, that horse left the barn long ago.

      1. Maybe not from the Federal constitution, but…

        CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
        ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS

        SECTION 1. All people are by nature free and independent and have
        inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and
        liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing
        and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.

        1. Well it’s right there. You see that they listed safety before both happiness and privacy, right?

          1. I know you’re being sarcastic, but I’d think that filming porn counts as “enjoying life” which is before safety. Come on man!

            1. You probably would think that because you’re probably demented. Everyone knows that all those women are forced into it and couldn’t possibly be enjoying it.

            2. I’m afraid MP has it right. If MP were wrong, then California wouldn’t be California.

          2. Just out of curiosity…

            How does CA justify the “obtaining safety” is a right? Who is responsible for ensuring the obtaining of safety.

            If my other rights are violated, i.e. someone steals my money, I have legal recourse. What is my legal recourse if a meteor hits me in the nuts, say? Obviously, in such a case, safety was not obtained. Do I get to sue the state for not ensuring my rights weren’t violated?

            It’s almost like they failed to even consider what that means.

            I see a lot of this shit in state constitutions. They throw shit in there without any regard for what is required to live up to such entitlements. MT just passed an amendment to include They include the right to “a clean and healthful environment”. WTF? What if Yellowstone explodes?

            1. You could say the same thing about happiness under that interpretation. I’m not happy, so I’ll sue. I think another interpretation is needed.

              People have the right to obtain safety in the same way they have a right to earn money. If they can do it, then they can’t be stopped. At least that was the idea originally.

              1. You have the right to pursue happiness… not have it.

            2. You forget dude, that no statement of positive right has ever or will ever be construed to hold government responsible for its inability to provide that right.

              Such statements have, however, been used to completely fuck over everyone else, which was probably the point of making enumerations of positive rights in the first place.

    4. “Art” is only what the elites say it is damnit!

      THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!

    5. DNA=data.
      transmission of data is speech
      Therefore transmission of DNA = speech

      1. It usually ends up in somebody’s mouth, right?

        1. Of course progressives may argue that, just as the right to travel without interference means only that you can walk wherever you want (but you are subject to regulation if you use any other means of conveyance), transmission of DNA can be done by other means that direct injection of semen, and therefore you are subject to regulation of sexual behavior. Better yet, any sexual behavior not explicitly performed for the purpose of procreation is subject to state regulation.

        2. Hyper-Chicken: Your Honour, freedom of speech applies to what comes out of a mouth, not what goes in.
          O’Connor: Can counsel cite precedent?
          Hyper-Chicken: Uh, yes, darlin’, I can. In State Of Alabama vs. Giant Space Iguana, chewin’ the corners off the Constitution was deemed non-protected speech.
          Souter: He shut you up, O’Connor.

      2. i like that db

      3. I don’t think your argument works because DNA is a molecule, notwithstanding the fact that we might conceptualize it as data. By itself, moving a molecule from point A to point B is not speech. Generally, I don’t think a guy who shoots his seed is speaking or saying anything.

        1. . Generally, I don’t think a guy who shoots his seed is speaking or saying anything.

          “Grrraaaahhh, yeah, take it all, ahhhhhh, bitch!” is technically ‘something’.

          1. “Generally, I don’t think a guy who shoots his seed is speaking or saying anything.”

            I think you’re selling that way short. The artistic range of expression of a well placed shot can speak volumes…

            The old fashioned traditional values expressed in a cream-pie,

            The utter joy expressed in a pearl necklace,

            the anger and protest in holding her eye open after a good throating…

            The possibilities are endless.

    6. This is a dumb nanny state law enacted by a bunch of busybody Democrats. But I think you will have a hard time attacking this as an infringement of a right to privacy (assuming it exists) when you are recording a sex act and selling the recording to the public. Your argument would be more persuasive if government passed a law that said that anybody who fucks has to wear a condom.

    7. Commerce. Clause. There’s nothing it can’t do.

  6. We see what you did there, Shackford.

  7. +1 for the headline pun.

    1. Of course there is a right to privacy protected by the constitution.

      You are not suffering from the misperception that the universe of an individual’s rights are cabined by the first through the eighth amendments, are you?

      1. Unfortunately the constitution has been used to wipe the Supreme Court’s ass over the past century, and I don’t think there’s much left.

        1. Unfortunately the constitution has been used to wipe the Supreme Court’s ass over the past century, and I don’t think there’s much left.

          The constitution is still there, as written, despite many unconstitutional interpretations of it by SCOTUS.

          They don’t have the enumerated power to unilaterally rewrite it.

  8. Great. So now we have an underground porn industry. I’m sure the incidence of AIDS will go down.
    Nice work retards.

    1. The goal is regulation itself, not improved outcomes. They win.

  9. I wonder how the law is worded. Is it required to wear the condom on your penis?

  10. “Coming” in the title and “position” in the alt-text. Not bad. Not bad at all.

  11. Porn with condoms just reminds me of how much I hate condoms. It’s not surprising that no one wants to buy any shitty condom porn. I mean, AIDS sucks, but at least it’s not condoms.

    1. Way I see it, if you’re a porn star, it’s an risk you pretty much signed up for.

      Also, sucks that all the law did was drive the business away/underground where porn stars may not be as likely to get tested so frequently, causing more AIDS.

      1. It doesn’t suck. The porn made by the Russian mob is the best porn of all.

        1. Only if you’re Sarcasmic and go for that strung out heroin addict look.

          1. Heroin addict? Nah. I’ll settle for an old fashioned eating disorder.

      2. Any stats on this? What percentage of porn stars get HIV?

        Found this on Wiki

        AIM Healthcare Foundation has stated that the rate of STDs in adult film actors in production companies that follow the AIM testing protocols is 2.4%, which they state is “considerably lower than the average for sexually active young people with similar demographics.”

        1. pfft, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.

    2. no one wants to buy any shitty condom porn

      Seems like just last week there were at least a dozen people here commenting about how much they loved anal.

      1. Sparky, could we go even one day without have to hear about how much you like it in the ass?

        1. Oh sure, you, Epi, Warty, nicole, and jesse can go on and on ad nauseum about the joys of anal every day. I bring it up one time and now I’m the bad guy. Well I hope Warty uses the rusty cock ring the next time you’re on bottom.

          1. No metal known to humans can ring Warty’s cock.

            1. Mithril?

              1. Three Cock Rings for the Elven-kings, pointing at sky
                Seven for the Dwarf-lords, hard as stone
                Nine for Mortal Men, doomed to die

                One for the Dark Lord on his Sybian throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
                One Cock Ring to erect them all
                One Ring to find them
                One Ring to bling them all and in the darkness grind them.
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

                1. Lord of the Cock Ring – I’m sure this movie already exists someplace, somewhere.

                  1. Yeah and the “head” character is Dildo Teabaggins.

                    1. Just as long as they don’t leave out Tom Bumbadil and Dingleberry. Oh, and the scene where the Barrow-Wights kidnap Frodo and take him to their necrophiliac graveyard sex-dungeon.

                    2. The Lord of the G-Strings: The Femaleship of the String is one of many Lord of the Rings parodies, any of which would probably set Tolkien spinning in his grave. Dildo Saggins, possessor of an all-powerful bit of skimpy underwear, must face the flatulent dark lord Sourasse with the help of assorted scantily clad associates. There are puns aplenty, from the setting (Diddle Earth) to the inhabitants (Throbbits), but the action is surprisingly tame for modern porn, more silly than hardcore.

                      This was on Skinemax a few months ago.

                      Kinda NSFW

                    3. Lord of the G-Strings wasn’t that good. I prefer the Very Secret Diaries. They’re text based and more silly than pornographic though.

                  2. And much like “Snow White and the Three Dwarves”, it involves the hiring of ‘little people’.

      2. Of course. It’s every week that a dozen people here comment how they love anal.

        1. Sorry, I have an “Exit Only” sign.

    3. I loathe using condoms – it’s like taking a shower wearing a raincoat.

    4. More importantly, jerking off to porn is 100% guarenteed not to result in the transmission of AIDS.

      More condoms in porn = less porn viewing = more people paying hookers for sex = more AIDS.

  12. As a result of Measure B, the ballot initiative that mandates the wearing of condoms in adult video shoots in Los Angeles, the number of film permit requests in the county have dropped off a cliff.

    A planet where people change their behavior in response to incentives?

    1. In progresso-land nobody ever responds to incentives. When prices go up slight, consumers miraculously find the money to spend. When wages go up marginally, employers magically pay them more without altering hiring or firing decisions. You get this amazing multiplier effect by making everything more expensive without having anyone alter their spending habits. Best of all, everyone always buys the same stuff in exactly the same amounts year after year, so nobody needs to worry about producing the wrong stuff. Profits are razor thin and risk is essentially zero.

      1. And on the off chance that Market Failure does occur? Bailout!

  13. I don’t see why porn stars should be the only ones protected by this law. What makes them so special?

    Why don’t they extend this law to protect everyone else, too? If we’re gonna stop this HIV thing, we’re gonna have to get serious. People who aren’t trying to have children have no business not wearing a condom.

    So let’s get the government involved! Hell, kids under the age of 18 certainly shouldn’t be allowed to have sex without a condom. Want to make a real dent in teen pregnancy and Chlamydia–not to mention kids infected with HIV?

    Throw their sorry teen asses in jail if they have sex without a condom. Protecting kids–that’s what government is for.

    1. I don’t see why this should be limited to sex workers – *everyone* should be mandated to wear a condom in the workplace.

      1. You don’t?

        1. I’m wearing one right now (that female version). YOu never know when TEH MALE GAZE! is gonna turn into RAPE CULTURZ! Especially among these nerds I work with.

    2. Well, I think that a lot of the reasoning (if you can call it that) behind the law is that seeing porn stars having sex with condoms will encourage have sex with condoms. Or something along those lines.

    3. Demolition Man continues to be the most accurate prediction of the future

      1. I, for one, just installed the 3 shells during my last bathroom renovation.

        1. How DO those work? It’s been nagging at me for years.

          1. Oh, it’s easy! After you’re done your business, the first shel8e d0 18 b6 26 a4 bf ab 06 ca

  14. How does this square with coppers using the possession of condoms as PC to arrest one for prostitution?

    1. More suspects. Works out just fine for them.

  15. The porn industry told LA to go fuck themselves?

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