Christopher Dorner Reportedly Killed in Big Bear, Calif.; One Deputy Killed in Gun Battle

Christopher Dorner has reportedly been sighted in Big Bear, Calif., and there's a parade of conflicting reports over a possible gun battle going on with authorities right now.

For those who want to follow live, here's ABC's live coverage.

I'm on Reason 24/7 duty right now and will work to keep posting the latest.

Some updates from our 24/7 Feed: Two San Bernardino County deputies were injured in a gun battle and the Los Angeles Times is reporting that one deputy is dead. Dorner is believed to be holed up in a cabin in Big Bear.

Update (4:22 Pacific time): San Bernardino County's sheriff has confirmed one of the deputies has been killed. ABC footage of the cabin where Dorner may be hiding shows a significant amount of smoke.

Update (5:45 Pacific time): The house Dorner is reportedly hiding in has mostly burned down. Officials are keeping mum at the moment about whether Dorner is still alive or not or even in the building.

Update (7:25 Pacific time): CBS has reported that what is believed to be Dorner's body has been recovered from the cabin. However, KTLA is saying officials with LAPD are saying they have not actually entered the burning home and have not confirmed a body.

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

Nope, it turns out it was just a one-legged, 87-year-old Swedish great grandmother.

[JW]

GET HIM!

[Sevo]

And they found out after they shot her.

[BarryD]

They heard she drove a blue Prius, so they found the a family in a gray Corolla and gunned them down.

[RandomJackass]

". . . Mechanical Hound never fails. Never since its first use in tracking quarry has this incredible invention made a mistake. Tonight, this network is proud to have the opportunity to follow the Hound by camera helicopter as it starts on its way to the target..."

[Paul.]

Christopher Donner has reportedly been sighted in Big Bear and there's a parade of conflicting reports over a possible gun battle going on with authorities right now.

Probably cops shooting at a paper boy on a Huffy, or maybe a small Asian waitress at a Sonic. Because there's a pickup truck-like thingy in the parking lot. Somewhere. They're sure of it.

[brlfq]

C-

[JW]

Christopher Donner has reportedly been sighted in Big Bear

Is that a club?

[Groovus Maximus]

Donner, party of one? HA! Say goodnight, Groovus!

Spokojnoj nochi!-)

[Sevo]

Groovus Maximus| 2.12.13 @ 4:57PM |#
"Donner, party of one?..."

No, it's:
Donner, party of four!
Ooops party of three!
Ooops, make that party of two...

[JW]

Spokojnoj nochi!-)

Just so you know, I read this in the voice of Latka Gravas.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Good night? Are those j's supposed to be there? I just can't get phonetic Russian.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Thank you very much.

[Episiarch]

Dennis Reynolds: I'm sure there's a great deal of switching back and forth but I think more often then not bears are tops, unless they happen to be power bottoms.

Frank Reynolds: What's a power bottom?

Mac: A power bottom is a bottom that is capable of receiving an enormous amount of power.

[RyanXXX]

Dennis: See Mac you're actually wrong. A power bottom GENERATES the power. He's doing all the work!

[John]

Color me skeptical that this is actually him. It was actually a El Salvadorian yard crew.

[Sudden]

Two San Bernardino sheriffs apparently shot. Unless they shot each other in crossfire (not entirely outside the realm of possibility), it is him.

[John]

Probably. But them shooting each other is quite possible even if it is him.

[johnl]

Or the Fish and Game guy shot them.

[Paul.]

Christopher Dorner Sighting in Big Bear

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Christopher Donner has reportedly been sighted in Big Bear

Even Reason can't ID him correctly. Fuckity fuck!

[BarryD]

No doubt, the LAPD did shoot some poor schmuck named Christopher Donner. Probably a 125 lb. white teenager.

[Ryan60657]

Dorner, not Donner.

[Mike M.]

If it really is him, he's as good as dead already.

[Sevo]

Prolly true if it's NOT him, too.

[db]

Yeah, the cops have to kill the fuck out of the suspect to find out who it is.

[John]

Sometimes you have to destroy the village to save it.

[Paul.]

Yeah, the cops have to kill the fuck out of the suspect to find out who it is.

threadwinner.

[John]

The LAPD is going to kill something.

[BarryD]

It is Tuesday after all.

[John]

And there is an R in the month

[db]

They take the summer off?

[John]

Union rules. Mandatory vacation. No use or lose. And no dog killing when you are not on duty.

[Enough About Palin]

"They take the summer off?"

There's an "R" in summer, you know.

[Almanian!]

"Not in the R's? That's not what your mother said last night, Trebeck."

[Apatheist ?_??]

So he's just got to make it to the summer?

[Matrix]

Yeah, my thoughts are... if it's not him, the shooter might as well try to take out as many as he can, because he's dead either way. If they think he's Dorner, he's only leaving in a body bag.

[Fist of Etiquette]

His death is necessary for public safety. Coppers might be less panicky with their gunfire with Dorner in cuffs or on a slab.

[Rich]

Two words: Drone strike.

[R C Dean]

From orbit. To be sure.

[JW]

I've got news for you, cowboy, It's a Dorner Strike!

YIPPEE KI-YAY!

[CE]

That could be one reason they're establishing a 3-mile perimeter and a news coverage blackout, so they don't "tip their hand" to Dorner. Somehow I think he already knows he's surrounded.

[Fist of Etiquette]

It would be nice if this continued throughout the night and overshadowed the SOTUA. (No more deaths, of course.)

[Rich]

DRINK!!

[John]

Except his. And yeah, I hope this turns into a televised OJ style standoff and high speed chase. Let it go to about midnight eastern. That would be fucking awesome.

[BarryD]

Hear, hear!

[pmains]

So, if you were planning to rob a bank or pull of a jewel heist in Southern California, I'm thinking that this was the week to do it.

[R C Dean]

I posted on the morning links, I think, a couple of stories about how the LAPD has been paralyzed by this, given their overreaction and fucked up priorities, and how the "manifesto" may well have been intended to produce exactly that result.

[Paul.]

So, the terrorists won, v 2.0.

[John]

http://thecable.foreignpolicy......rship_team

The Obama Asian team has no Korea experts. What an incredible leader Obama is. Who would have thought Korea would ever be an issue?

[Sudden]

I believe Axelrod is a North Korean expert. Well, at least a NorKo propaganda expert.

[Rich]

He's just making good on his promise of no more Korea politicians in his administration.

[Hyperion]

My South Korean co-worker is a North Korea expert. He says that all the Kims are fucking crazy. Obama should hire him.

[Rich]

Whoosh!

[CE]

Wasn't that socialite lady in Tampa that organized parties for the Central Command appointed a special envoy to Korea?

[Libertarian]

Has there ever been such a manhunt for someone who who has shot & killed 3 people?

[Mike M.]

Yes. And you obviously haven't read this guy's manifesto.

[Jerry on the boat]

Are you sure they're not filming a remake of Winter Kill? If only Andy Griffith was still around...

[Jerry on the boat]

Ugh, here it is: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072411/

[Brett L]

SF'd the link.

[Sudden]

Black people and snow don't mix. Should've chosen a different location.

[playa manhattan]

They shut down the airspace over Angelus Oaks to everybody but law enforcement. So there won't be any video of him being shot be the SWAT team.

[Some call me Tim?]

Exactly. They wont stand for any blatant evidence if this op goes FUBAR.

[Episiarch]

Goes FUBAR? Uh, it's already FUBAR.

[Some call me Tim?]

Only compared to most of the US. In LAPD terms this is SOP.

[Rich]

SOPBAR?

[BarryD]

SOPAFU

[John]

They don't want it on film when they shoot him at close range in the back of the head in handcuffs.

[Rich]

Two words: Private drone.

[db]

How does that work? I don't think anyone but the FAA has authority to restrict movement in the National Airspace System.

[John]

They call the FAA.

[Rich]

What is this "authority" of which you speak?

[playa manhattan]

The Sheriff of San Bernardino personally called the FAA, and they issued a TFR up to 13,000 MSL over Angeles Oaks. The whole thing took about 10 minutes...

[BarryD]

Anyone want to bet he's already 10 miles away from where the cops are?

[John]

They might have him. But I would say it is at least fifty fifty they don't.

[Some call me Tim?]

It'd be hilarious if he isn't there, but apparently they are being shot at still..soooo...someone's in there, right?

[John]

Sure there is. Another cop from a different jurisdiction who thinks he has Donner cornered.

[BarryD]

They formed a circular firing squad and moved in...

[Rich]

He could have pulled a Silence of the Lambs move on one of the cops.

[fish]

He could have pulled a Silence of the Lambs move on one of the cops.

What...the one where he tucks his junk between his thighs and dances?

[playa manhattan]

There are police scanner apps for iphone and android. You can listen to the entire thing unfold on San Bernardino County Channels 6, 7, 8, & 9. The response is incredibly disorganized... The deputy pilots were circling the wrong cabin for 20 minutes before anyone figured it out...

[BarryD]

Did they shoot all the dogs in the area?

[John]

I wouldn't want to be a dog in the back of a pick up within a hundred miles from there.

[BarryD]

No shit.

[Hyperion]

Or a cabin owner who is currently in the cabin. You might become the next American drone victim of mistaken identity.

[John]

No shit. What do you do if you are in a Cabin up there? You don't dare leave or risk being killed by a trigger happy cop. And if you stay, how long before they bust down your door or set your place on fire by mistake. Thousands of angry retarded people running around with guns sounds about as unsafe a situation as it gets.

[BarryD]

Now that the game wardens are out of the area, there's probably nobody there who has a gun, who should.

[Paul.]

wouldn't want to be a dog in the back of a pick up within a hundred miles from there.

I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a pickup in SoCal until Dorner is either captured or killed. And even then, better give it a weeks buffer time.

[jesse.in.mb]

Our staff has been offering a coworker rides home. She drives a white pickup. She's a tall white blond, but we're not sure that matters at this point.

[Sudden]

Our staff has been offering a coworker rides home. She drives a white pickup. She's a tall white blond, but we're not sure that matters at this point.

And I'm sure that they're offering her rides home because she drives a truck and not because of the tall white blond part.

[jesse.in.mb]

A staff of all straight women and a gay man? 90% giving her a hard time, 10% genuine concern, 0% sexual interest (I probably shouldn't speak for all the ladies on that last one).

[Sudden]

Well, in that case, perhaps not.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

The old "pretending you're gay" trick. Yawn. Been there, done that.

[jesse.in.mb]

You saw right through me! And here I've put so much effort into the long con...

[Gus]

Don't leave it hanging. Did you blow the guy or not?

[jesse.in.mb]

That implies there was only one.

[mr lizard]

Underhanded and effective.

[John]

LOL. I would not be surprised if the two wounded cops were shot by other cops.

[brlfq]

You'd get a woody?

[Gus]

That's exactly what he said, moron.

[affenkopf]

This is probably not something I should admit but I hope Dorner will at least take some extra cops with him.

[Hyperion]

You won't get too much shit here, for saying that.

[brlfq]

Those porkers have it coming.

[Gus]

Needs more derp.

[rts]

This feed is showing cops pointing their guns into everyone's car at some kind of checkpoint, even at kids in the back seat.

I'm floored anyone would tolerate this.

[John]

And when the gun just goes off, that will be just too bad won't it? They really are animals.

[Some call me Tim?]

Animals? How DARE you?!?!

Occifer Dunphy has assured me that the LAPD is an excellent agency.

[playa manhattan]

Never in my life have I seen so many bad haircuts in the same place.

[Hyperion]

Who's to say that this Dorner hasn't disguised himself as a 7 year old white kid. Officer safety first!

[BarryD]

That's true.

[Apatheist ?_??]

How the fuck is this not a violation of the constitution?

[rts]

Let's say they spot some weed in someone's back seat during these stops. What then?

I'm also curious what will happen if someone's lab bounds out the door once opened.

[Apatheist ?_??]

It would be mildly hilarious if somebody got caught with their mistress on that feed.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Who has standing to sue? And if they do, it'll be after Dorner is dead.

[Apatheist ?_??]

The people having their vehicles searched without a warrant?

[Cdr Lytton]

blah blah exigent circumstances blah blah officer safety blah blah reasonable whatever blah blah

[SugarFree]

Fuck 'em. Driving is a privilege. Exigent circumstances. Officer safety.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

How intense were the searches? Roadblocks where a known dangerous fugitive is believed to be in an area have always been considered constitutional. I don't think they're allowed to actually rifle through the vehicle, but they can definitely make them stop and look in through the windows.

[Apatheist ?_??]

While I watched the video feed they were having people get out of their cars and were opening the doors and trunks. And don't say they consented, they had a bunch of lunatics pointing rifles at them.

[Jordan]

It's California.

[Sudden]

IF he is in the cabin that they're allegedly surrounding, do you think he's trying to bait them into full storm in mode only to blow the whole cabin up and everybody inside and remotely close to it?

[Some call me Tim?]

He just needs a deadman switch, and he'd take out probably 20 officers guaranteed.

[John]

Those apes, or at least the first couple of them, will be dumb enough to charge him and get shot. After that, they will probably just bomb the place or set it on fire. Any hostages will of course be burned alive, officer safety you know.

[brlfq]

The Deep End welcomes you. What took you so long?

[John]

I know. Cops would never just bomb something to end a stand off. Never

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing

[SugarFree]

Is-kay Ary-May.

[Gus]

He really is poor at this.

[Brendan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdqybEfy9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk-bV40XMc

Summary-they burned the place down

[BarryD]

Charles Bronson?

[Episiarch]

Death Hunt

[BarryD]

One of the best movies of my childhood. Right behind Apocalypse Now.

[Solanum]

Johnson Dorner, we have a bad situation out here. We have a bunch of savages out here, just aching to splatter you all over the place. They don't want your side tall. Now if you don't come with me, that's all the excuse they'll need. They'll either kill you or get themselves killed trying.

[playa manhattan]

Interesting twist- The police agency that first spotted and engaged Dorner in Big Bear:
California Department of Fish and Game

[BarryD]

CA Game Wardens are better cops than the cops, is that what you're saying?

A lot of them are hunters, so they probably at least know how to spot and identify their quarry before shooting randomly at anything that moves.

[playa manhattan]

A lot of cops don't consider Fish & Game wardens to be "real" cops. They just got their asses handed to them.

[Hyperion]

What if Dorner has weapons of mass destruction? There was this film, Broken Arrow, I think. Maybe he watches movies?

[Some call me Tim?]

Huh? In Broken Arrow, John Travolta plays an AF pilot who steals 2 nukes from a B2 during a test flight.

If we're talking WMD, I think the proper comparison is 12 Monkeys.

[Hyperion]

So? Who is to say that Dorner couldn't have stolen 2 nukes? Don't be so picky, DHS needs a reason to exist. Why do you hate job creation?

[Greg]

Dat's teh racism if i has ever seen it

[Francisco d Anconia]

It was a B-3 bomber.

[Some call me Tim?]

"B-3 Stealth Bomber (a fictional advanced version of the actual B-2 Spirit stealth bomber)"

[Chris Mallory]

He was in "Underwater Warfare". So he smuggled out a Mark 45 nuclear torpedo.

[fish]

Ask T o n y how he smuggled it out.

[Agammamon]

Well maybe he stole 12 monkeys. That's, like, a felony right?

[playa manhattan]

They did a great job of tear gassing the front yard. That'll show the bunnies hiding in the snow..

[Sudden]

They're hoping the wind will carry it into neighborhood backyards and take care of the dogs.

[playa manhattan]

I lol'ed at that and woke my 1yr old up from his nap. Thanks a lot.

The Christopher Dorner fiasco has truly unleashed the full potential of the cops shooting dogs meme...

[Sheriff of Fistingham]

"The Christopher Dorner fiasco has truly unleashed the full potential of the cops shooting dogs meme..."

Mans best friend can take one more for the team. What, do you want the terrorists to win? Why do you hate America, P.M.?

[jesse.in.mb]

Do you know anything about him allegedly having stayed in a hotel in Manhattan?

[playa manhattan]

Yes. Night after the Irvine murders.

[jesse.in.mb]

Do they know which one? I just keep seeing "a Manhattan Beach hotel," which isn't satisfying.

[playa manhattan]

I have heard conflicting info on it, but the rumor is that it is the one on Highland near 34th. Can't remember the exact name.

[playa manhattan]

Nevermind. It has been confirmed that it was the Hi View motel on Sepulveda and he was there for at least 1 night.

[brlfq]

Or not.

[John]

Currently hundreds if not thousands of completely untrained, undisciplined, unaccountable, angry, violent retards are converging on Big Bear. It has to be the most unsafe place on earth right now. I would be surprised if the entire place doesn't burn to the ground.

[BarryD]

I only wish I were a car thief in San Bernardino. I'll bet an enterprising person could get 5 cars before there are any cops back in town.

[Sudden]

The plot for Gone in Sixty Seconds Part Two?

[Episiarch]

Don't give Nick Cage any ideas.

[John]

Rob a few banks in LA. Just get on the freeway and disappear. No danger of running into any cops.

[Hyperion]

Collateral damage is something we have to accept, to insure safety, for the children.

[Killazontherun]

That is why I wouldn't even report a Charles Manson sighting. I feel a certain responsibility to my neighbors to help keep them safe.

[Sudden]

Whaddaya wanna bet that if this thing is still going on 2.5 hours from now, Obama will call the San Bernardino sheriff and instruct him to storm the cabin regardless of any civilians. That or maybe just order the first domestic drone strike.

Can't be sharing spotlight.

[John]

Please Please God let this go on for another four hours. Please.

[Some call me Tim?]

The cabin blows up, and the official story is that Dorner set off a bomb, but those who believe a Predator Drone launched a missile will riduculated Droners.

[Sheriff of Fistingham]

Police commandered Killdozers bulldozers or snow plows driven through the wrong cabin, killing all occupants in 3...2...1..

[db]

If only this had begun just a few hours later... Barry O would have to give a repeat SOTUA tomorrow, just like his inauguration.

[Sudden]

Guarantee most news outlets will switch to SOTUA no matter if this is still going on or not. In fact, the police are probably waiting for that so they can do something completely fucked up without any media coverage on it.

[John]

I don't know about that. Someone will keep it on and that is where the viewers will go.

[Rich]

Unless there's an Executive Order not to.

[brlfq]

Split screen. Like when hurricanes approach.

[Rich]

"Storm Donner!"

[Almanian!]

'Black Hawk Donner!'

[Proprietist]

If they already got or shot him, they wouldn't need to keep pointing guns at children on the roadblocked highway outside of Big Bear. Which indicates likely more innocent people shot in the gunfight.

[Hyperion]

If they already got or shot him, they wouldn't need to keep pointing guns at children on the roadblocked highway outside of Big Bear

What does 'need to', have to do with the cops? Do they need to shoot playful little docile dogs or tase granny 30 times because she's a threat to 4 ogre sized officers?

[brlfq]

You just KNOW those pigs are itching to grease some toddlers.

[Hyperion]

They are saying that he has hostages...

[John]

That is bad for the hostages. But great for my hopes that this drags on all night and deprives dip shit of his big moment.

[Proprietist]

The LAPD commander can't confirm that at this time, apparently.

[kibby]

They don't want to jump to any conclusions, obviously. It would make them look silly!

[Sudden]

The LAPD commander can't confirm that at this time, apparently.

There are strategic reasons. If the LAPD can claim that they're unsure as to whether that is Dorner, it gives them cover to fire upon a few more innocent citizens in their hunt for the real Dorner.

[BuSab Agent]

Hope the hostage is a cop so the other cops go in carefully, otherwise he/she/they are goners er collateral damage.

[Proprietist]

If the hostage is a dog, the dog's a goner either way.

[brlfq]

A guy's gotta eat.

[Rich]

I hope you're not referring to Blazing Saddles.

[brlfq]

So I'm thinking he's not "likely" in Mexico after all.

[Sudden]

He's in Southern California still isn't he?

[Hyperion]

This is only his clone, that he created in the brief time that he has been 'missing'. He is in Mexico now getting his weapons of mass destruction while his clone occupies the LA retard squad.

[Almanian!]

Send hologram Tupac after him - it's the only way now!

[Chris Mallory]

It will come out that Dorner committed suicide by shooting himself in the back 20 times after he set the cabin on fire, killing the hostage, with a stolen LAPD incendiary grenade.

[brlfq]

He'll kill himself, initiating a decade's worth of conspiracy theories.

[John]

killing the hostage with a gun he had stolen from the arms room of the SWAT team that has surrounded the house.

[Chris Mallory]

then he burns down the cabin with a stolen LAPD incendiary grenade.

[brlfq]

But not before uploading his new cat video to YouTube.

[Bardas Phocas]

The only movie to reference to this little fiasco is First Blood.

I could have killed 'em all, I could've killed you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it! Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it go. Let it go!

Trautman: You did everything to make this private war happen. You've done enough damage. This mission is over, Rambo. Do you understand me? This mission is over! Look at them out there! Look at them! If you won't end this now, they will kill you. Is that what you want? It's over Johnny. It's over!

[Alack]

So you all just abandon the PM Links because a flashy article comes along with promises of police malfeasance? You all disgust me.

[Hyperion]

Are you kidding me? You think we would abandon the links just for that? We already know there will be police malfeasance, because, well, cops are involved.

Nope. We are here to see if he blows up half the LAPD!

[Alack]

BOOOOOOORING. I'm Christopher Dorner and I'm here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS?!?!?!?!?!?!

[playa manhattan]

I'm going to Costco to get more popcorn. BRB

[brlfq]

My browser supports multiple windows.
I'm also watching Zatoichi's Revenge.

[BuSab Agent]

That's a great movie.

[brlfq]

I see Dorner as a larger, blacker, angrier Ichi.

[BuSab Agent]

And Dorner can see.

[brlfq]

Ichi would make sushi out of Dorner's black ass.

Also, yuck.

[Hyperion]

The left has to be really disappointed in all of this. First of all, he wasn't a white teabagger to help further their gun control agenda.

Now, it doesn't appear that he will get to kill all of the whitey they were hoping for. Well, not themselves, just the other whitey, you know, the bible toting clingers.

Hey, I'm not the one who said it, it's all over the web.

[John]

Don't worry. They will just rewrite history and pretend he is a tea bagger like they did with Oswald and Eric Rudolph.

[brlfq]

HuffPo commentary has been strongly supportive of Dorner.

"joep001," described as a HUffPo "Super User," writes:
"Awesome! This is great! The militarized domestic police finally getting a taste of their own medicine, when one of their own insane # turn on them. Nothing like seeing the Fascists fight each other!!!"

More:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013.....ee-killer/

[brlfq]

In fact, you could put those comments here and nobody would know the difference.

[Ben the Duck]

In fact, you could put those comments here and nobody would know the difference.

Truth.

[affenkopf]

CNBC reporter:Oh geez. @KFIAM640 reports police sources fear #Dorner may have gotten away in stolen squad car.

Please be true.

[Alack]

This would be amazing.

[Sudden]

Don't see you bitching about PM links now that we have some red meat served up here...

[Alack]

I used up all of my fuck-giving for the day and have started drinking in preparation for the SotU.

[Almanian!]

God love ya, Alack. Drink hearty - enjoy!

[Sudden]

That would make this all the more interesting. IIRC, all those cars have GPS on them (I suppose Dorner being familiar with those cars may have been able to disable/remove it).

[John]

This is terrible of me. But I can't help but find myself rooting for this guy to get away just for the pleasure of seeing these people revealed for the trigger happy fuck ups they are.

[Episiarch]

He should get a away a few times for true lulz.

[Almanian!]

I'm with you John. And I hate myself for it.

But there it is.

Go Dorner!

/Sugarland Express

[Atanarjuat]

Yep. The LAPD is actually looking bad in comparison to a (probable) crazed murderer on the loose.

If he's in a squad car, will they start unloading on every crown vic they pull over?

[Ben the Duck]

I can't help but find myself rooting for this guy to get away

Absolutely. Fuck that bitch Monica Quan.

[brlfq]

Libertarianism has a new folk hero.
Can't wait for the new Remy video!

[brlfq]

Jeez, this guy is like, a super hero!

[entropy]

My god.

Fire every single LAPD. Replace them all with Fish and Game wardens and Karate dojo instructors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8jphxpi1ro

Timeless, really.

[brlfq]

So much for beating Bin Laden's record.

[Sevo]

"LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith asked news agencies not to broadcast live reports because the person in the cabin might be watching television."
http://www.sfgate.com/news/cri.....267653.php
Hmmm.

[brlfq]

The person in the cabin might be watching television...

Or chatting on a blog...
He could be in this room RIGHT NOW.

[Almanian!]

THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!!11!!1!

[brlfq]

Yep. That's the joke all right.

[Almanian!]

this is no drill

[playa manhattan]

This is pretty awesome:
http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/12/.....broadcast/
Prankster calls CBS news posing as a CA Fish & Game spokesperson and calls the anchor a dumbass on the air...

[Almanian!]

"OJ be lookin'.....very scared....and a ig BOBBA BOOOEY TO YOU!"

It all seems a little bit of history repeating....

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

We are all Fartman now...

[Almanian!]

You know, if the LAPD had one brain between all of them, they'd contract with STEVE SMITH to track down Dorner. STEVE SMITH always rapes gets his man.

[Episiarch]

If one guy can drive the cops to this level of ignoring public safety, ignoring the Constitution (more than usual), shooting random people, and pointing guns at children, just think what would happen in a serious disaster.

[Almanian!]

A serious disaster...like the release of Michael Bay's next movie?

Or not that bad? Like a mega-hurricane or armed insurrection or something...

[Episiarch]

Alien invasion, obviously.

[Almanian!]

So, "undocumented" Mexicans.

[Episiarch]

Precisely.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Zombie apocalypse?

[Almanian!]

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGS!

/Cartman

[Sevo]

Hey! Some cops are threatened! This *is* a serious disaster!

[Fatty Bolger]

We don't have to imagine it, it already happened in New Orleans after Katrina.

[dave b.]

They are now reporting that Dorner has apparently vowed to not be taken alive. I didn't even know that they had time to talk to him.

[A Serious Man]

They'll happily oblige him in that case.

[Almanian!]

I'm hearing James Cagney or Edward G. Robinson ...."You coppers are never gonna take me alive, see! Eat hot lead, you dirty rats!!!" RATATATATATATATATATA (ad infinitum cause it's AN ASSUALT WEAPON WITH INFINITY DEATH CLIAZINES!!!11111)

[A Serious Man]

"Look Ma, I'm on top of the world!"

[Cdr Lytton]

"Oh, it's wonderful. I'll get his room ready. I knew my baby would come home."

[Sudden]

So it's actually MacCauly Culkin in the house? Man, his life went downhill after Mila left his ass.

[BakedPenguin]

...his life went downhill after Mila left his ass.

Who's wouldn't?

[BakedPenguin]

Whose

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Then why did he take hostages?

[Sheriff of Fistingham]

Focus group.

[neoteny]

Nice.

[fish]

They are now reporting that Dorner has apparently vowed to not be taken alive.

I'm guessing that this option was never really on the table!

[A Serious Man]

If he manages to get away, this guy, despite being an *alleged* murderous bastard, gets major Rambo points.

Does this guy have his own Richard Creena to talk to?

[Almanian!]

I'm envisioning Steven Segal...."I'm furrrowing my bow and whispering...and getting fatter as I stand here..."

[Almanian!]

jesus fuck - "brow"

My typing is extra wose than usual tonight

[kibby]

Was that one on purpose?

[Almanian!]

that was a bonus - welcome!

[Episiarch]

This whole thing is going to make the best movie of the week ever. Starring Forest Whitacker.

[Sudden]

He would make an ideal Dorner.

[Episiarch]

Duh. That's why I said it.

[sloopyinca]

OT: Follow Scott Shackford on twitter @sshackford

So, his twitter name is about as close as you can get to "asshat".

[Almanian!]

I blowed a snot bubble - lulz

[BakedPenguin]

Every time I see his name, I think of Dale Gribble - "Shackleford, Rusty Shackleford."

[Almanian!]

I think of the Earnest Shackleford guy who led an expedition to the South Pole in the early 1900's, got stuck, and rescued everyone.

And then I remember it's "Shackford", not "ShackELford".

The End

[Proprietist]

In case anyone's interested, one can listen to the San Bernardino police scanner.

This is supposedly the main feed but it's not connecting for me.

[Sudden]

I can't connect to the main feed either. Wondering if they took it down, because the one that was successful is uneventful.

[Proprietist]

Yeah, they're talking about knocked over mailboxes. I also noticed the Big Bear scanner is down.

[brlfq]

Sieges can be pretty boring.
Where the hell is Janet Reno when you need her?

[BarryD]

Reporter: "If you drive through there, you will have an officer with a gun, checking through your vehicle."

Should have said "an officer checking through your vehicle with a gun." There's a difference, and they're actually doing the latter.

[Sevo]

And warrants? What warrants?

[Almanian!]

I wonder if Dorner's gonna go all "Scarface" (later edition) on them? "Ju gotta prollem wi me? Ju make a move..." "Why donchu go work wi bline keeds or sonthing....bubblehead..." "Say hello to my LITTLE FRIEND!"

[Proprietist]

One of the sheriffs shot is dead.

[Proprietist]

sheriff's deputies.

[jesse.in.mb]

I thought the point was to not shoot the deputy.

[iggy]

That's a horrible joke in this situation. Unfortunately, I laughed a little, so I guess I can't judge you too much.

Poor guy, though. I hope they get him soon, at the very least so the LAPD can stop accidentally shooting civilians.

[jesse.in.mb]

Seriously. I feel terrible for the families of people who are up there (civilian and pd alike), the not knowing must be awful, and the knowing even worse.

[Sudden]

Yeah. Admittedly, it's kinda jacked up that he's taking out San Bernie sheriffs when his beef is with institutional corruption in LAPD.

[brlfq]

A pig is a pig.
Right, fellas?

[Atanarjuat]

Stuff it, dunphie.

[BarryD]

That is sad.

From here on out, nobody but LAPD and Torrance PD personnel should be allowed near the cabin.

[brlfq]

They're now reporting that he's not dead, just really depressed.

[brlfq]

They are now reporting that Dorner has ordered five large, extra-cheese pizzas for the ordeal. From PIZZA HUT.

And a case of PBR.

[Proprietist]

He's playing the Reason SOTU drinking game!

[Sudden]

Wait, no chickenwings?!?!?!?!?!?!

/racist

[brlfq]

They are now reporting that he has indeed ordered three large sides of wings.

[Almanian!]

Gang, I feel like Flounder in Animal House, "Oh boy, is this GREAT!" but I gotta go. Back later....cheers!

[playa manhattan]

I just went to pick my oldest up from Pre-school and it was on lockdown! It is 80 fucking miles away!

[Sevo]

What's the range on those 9mm rounds?

[kibby]

Ninety-eight bazillion miles.

[Francisco d Anconia]

I thought it was 98 gazillion miles?

[kibby]

Bazillion, gazillion -- what's the difference really? We're trying to protect the CHILDREN here!

[Sudden]

That's what most Californians seem to think.

[Copernicus]

Is it possible Dorner is trapped in a cabin and hiding in a car on the freeway at the same time?

If not, is all that car searching activity just an excuse for maximum overtime?

[Episiarch]

Never let a crisis go to waste, after all.

[Sudden]

We got a pension system to bilk, yo.

[Apatheist ?_??]

Security theater. They have to look like they are doing something.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Maximum Overtime.

Wasn't that a Stephen King movie with Emilio Estevez?

[iggy]

Comment from Huffington Post:

"I am confident that Dormer had absolutely nothing to do with the murder of Monica Quan & Keith Lawrence. Some LAPD insider killed them & set up Dormer."

Yeah, okay Huffington Post commenter. Okay.

[iggy]

MORE HUFFPO!

"i was so sad for a second there because i thought they found him...whew...go Mr dorner!!! but dont kill anymore people! ask the Lord to forgive you...stay safe! your a hero man!! but you shouldnt have killed anyone, but i understand...just no more killing bro!!!"

Truly he is a philosopher for our time.

[brlfq]

MORE HUFFPO!

"I can't help but find myself rooting for this guy to get away. I hope Dorner will at least take some extra cops with him."

Unbelievable.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

I can't flerking believe they aren't covering this on NBC. Brian Williams is droning on about pregnant women with autism.

[Gus]

Rule 34

[Sevo]

Tulpa (LAOL-PA)| 2.12.13 @ 6:57PM |#
"I can't flerking believe they aren't covering this on NBC. Brian Williams is droning on about pregnant women with autism."

You watch that crap, you deserve what you get.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Not all of us are 1% fatcats able to afford cable.

[Sheriff of Fistingham]

Needz moar tenure

[Sudden]

Rockstar Games Announced they will be adding a Chris Dorner DLC mission set to the new GTA V that releases in September

[Proprietist]

You scum.

[Sudden]

Couldn't help myself. But I really hope they do.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Use tinyurl next time if you want to troll people with Reasonable.

[Heroic Mulatto]

And don't use stale memes.

[jesse.in.mb]

Your memes are too fresh! I just heard about this today. *puts head back in internet sand*

[Sudden]

It's called fucking ironic hipster trolling yo. I'm living the dream of the 1890's

[Heroic Mulatto]

It's called fucking ironic hipster trolling yo.

*sigh*

White people.

[Sudden]

I'm not white, I'm Sami.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Bjork you.

[Sudden]

For the record, HM, I am not a hipster, and will register my discontent with them. However, I see a reasonable number of your people dressed in hipster regalia from time to time. What the hell man? Now I know how you guys felt when white kids started sagging and rocking Fubu.

[Heroic Mulatto]

However, I see a reasonable number of your people dressed in hipster regalia from time to time.

There are two kinds of Black hipsters:

1.) Doing it for the pussy
2.) Professor Bad-Ass

[iggy]

Sudden, if you ever use the phrase 'Fucking ironic hipster trolling' again, I will murder you and your entire family. Do you want that blood on your hands?

[Sudden]

Very Dorneresque of you.

[iggy]

Except that my murders would clearly be justified.

[Apatheist ?_??]

This is def my favorite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpEnLtqUDg

[Heroic Mulatto]

The guy wriggling in the sleeping bag will haunt my nightmares for years to come.

Seriously, look at it...it's fucking creepy.

[Cheradenine Zakalwe]

FU. It's like wriggling maggot.

[Sudden]

I didn't care to actually rickroll anyone. Just wanted to register my fantasy on the interwebz in hopes that a Rockstar developer is a Reason lurker and will run with my idea.

Speaking of ideas:

A new Star Trek: TNG movie series, directed by Christopher Nolan. Obviously, this will be years from now, after the Abrams project has run it's course. I nominate Christoph Waltz to play Q.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

The Abrams project ran its course 5 minutes into the first movie.

[Sudden]

I understand that, but it is nonetheless going to continue being made for a full trilogy I imagine.

That said, and I may be starting a war here, but TNG is clearly the superior edition of the show and therefore needs Nolan's touch to make it appropriately.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Nolan is a good director/writer, but TNG isn't really the kind of stuff he excels at. He's more of a gritty crime guy.

[Gus]

If Barack Obama had a cop son, he'd look like Christopher Dorner.

[brlfq]

They are now reporting that Dorner might have an invisibility cloak.

[kibby]

Harry Potter looks different than I remember...

[iggy]

Dorner cabin may be on fire now. There's smoke coming out of the woods on ABC.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

House where Dorner is believed to be holed up is on fire according to the KABC coverage.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Ah, the Reno maneuver. It was used to great effect during the Battle of Maxima.

[brlfq]

Ahem.
http://reason.com/blog/2013/02.....nt_3545426

[Heroic Mulatto]

Not my fault you forgot to weave the obligatory Star Trek reference in.

[brlfq]

What's Star Track?

[Episiarch]

Maybe you should have spelled "Maxia" correctly.

[brlfq]

I'm pretty sure it was the Battle of Altima but I'm no expert.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Goddamn Classics minor getting in the way....

[brlfq]

Dorner is believed to be holed up in a cabin in Big Bear

They are now reporting that Dorner ran up a tree like a big bear.

[Sudden]

Welcome to Waco/Ruby Ridge/etc.

[Gus]

Yup. Cabins engulfed in flames. Ammunition's exploding.

[Episiarch]

Burning/smoking someone out is one of the oldest tactics there is.

[Brendan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdqybEfy9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk-bV40XMc

[iggy]

One of the reporters just asked the Sheriff 'It's been claimed that the deputy that died had been shot in the face, what's your comment on that?'

In what universe does that sound like a reasonable question?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Was it Michael Falk?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Authorities have launched tear gas at the cabin, and a tactical operation an execution squad is under way, Former FBI Assistant Director Tom Fuentes tells CNN.

[Gus]

I've got $10 say Ovomit weaves this into the SOTU.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

"This is why the weapons of war should not be allowed on our streets or in our forests."

[Gus]

Exactly.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

I wonder if the cops are laughing when they state that they're not allowing firefighters in to try to put out the fire.

It would be a shame if this started a forest fire, right?

[Death Rock and Skull]

Then they would have charged him with a couple more murders for indirectly possibly contributing to some heart attacks.

[RyanXXX]

It would actually be pretty cool if that happened. Quite a villainous way to go, burning the forest down while its filled with cops.

[Proprietist]

They're now reporting Dorner escaped the scene in a giant zeppelin and have lost track of it's location.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

"If Chris Dorner's head opens up and a UFO flies out, I want you to have expected it."

[brlfq]

They are now reporting that the zeppelin was actually a giant talking eagle.

[Proprietist]

National Game and Wildlife Services are now shooting down any large eagles they see in the hope of hitting Dorner's eagle.

[Death Rock and Skull]

Game wardens suck. Fuck them all.

[brlfq]

They are now reporting that Death Rock and Skull is a big poopie-pants.

[Death Rock and Skull]

I kind of hope they find no sign of him. Wouldn't that be a kick in the nuts?

[Gus]

The fire department has been told to stand down. They are just supposed to stand and watch. How Benghazi like.

[brlfq]

As opposed to going in and getting shot?

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

I don't think they want to be taken hostage or shot.

[brlfq]

They are now reporting that it was nothing more than a lengthy dream of Pam's.

[Gus]

Christ you're old. Good luck with that.

[brlfq]

I'm only 12!

[Heroic Mulatto]

Hey now...it's back on the air.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

I like how the reporter is saying "we don't know how the fire started. Either Dorner started it himself or one of the officers responding may have unintentionally started it."

[johnl]

Exactly. They drove the witnesses off, and accidentally started a fire. I hope the building was empty.

[RandomJackass]

And then, after a time of the men sitting around the fire, their faces expressionless, an announcer on the dark screen said, "The search is over, Montag is dead; a crime against society has been avenged."

Darkness.

"We now take you to the Sky Room of the Hotel Lux for a half hour of Just-Before-Dawn, a program of-"

Granger turned it off.

"They didn't show the man's face in focus. Did you notice? Even your best friends couldn't tell if it was you. They scrambled it just enough to let the imagination take over. Hell," he whispered. "Hell."

[Lost_In_Translation]

Should have gotten the FBI involved, they'd just have cut power to the cabin. Then former could have opened the last lock on the safe.

[Episiarch]

You ask for a miracle, I give you the F.B.I.

[General Butt Naked]

Aren't Die Hard quotes a bit pedestrian for a cosmo fuck as yourself?

When's Dear Leader gonna grace us with his presence? Where's the open thread that is way more entertaining than the annual Reason writers yank-fest?

[Episiarch]

Pedestrian and jejune!

[General Butt Naked]

Jejune is just the sort of word that I would expect a mexican fag like you to use. Don't you have a State of the Union/foodtruck party you should be at?

[Episiarch]

No, I have a tennis match later. Arriba! Andele!

[brlfq]

THEY GOT HIM!

IT'S...D.B. COOPER!!

[Sudden]

Local ABC affiliate reporting that once the fire started, the officers heard a single shot from the side of the cabin. And only several minutes later did lots of the ammo begin going off.

Suicide?

[Ghetto Slovak Goatherder]

My thoughts too. Pansy way to go out. Even if he was a complete dick.

[Gus]

Cover-up? Who but the cops can verify this?

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Why would they feel it necessary to fake a suicide in this case?

Very very few people would have a problem with the cops blowing his head off on sight at this point.

[brlfq]

Why let a good conspiracy-theory opportunity go to waste?

[brlfq]

They want him dead.
Dead men tell no tales.

[iggy]

Someone on Facebook: I believe this means Christopher Dorner has selected a new pope.

That's actually kind of funny.

[Sevo]

Not as funny as:

"Obama vows job creation without adding to deficit"
"He's calling for a "smarter government" but not a bigger one."

Now, that's FUNNY!
http://www.sfgate.com/news/pol.....270471.php

[iggy]

"Still, buoyed by his re-election, the president and his top aides are confident that Americans back their vision for the economy."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/160.....ficit.aspx

According to this, he has a 39% approval rating on the economy. So...not sure I agree with his logic there.

[Sudden]

That is good.

[Proprietist]

That's hilarioius.

[Proprietist]

Or hilarious.

[Jordan]

I think Obama is going to name himself the new Pope during his SOTU address. It's only fitting for Black Jesus.

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Fire vehicle heading up Hwy 38 to the cabin area.

[T o n y]

So illogical. All these expensive guns being used when people can just as easily kill one another with steak knives or a bit of dental floss.

[iggy]

You have a point. Clearly we heed strict gun control laws so that cops and military personnel will no longer have access to firearms.

[T o n y]

If their opponents didn't have them, they wouldn't need them as much.

[Calidissident]

Yeah, I'm sure cops will put down their arms when we give up ours. Hahahahaha

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Very few of their opponents have semiautomatic rifles, and practically none have fully automatic ones. Yet the cops still seem to want them.

[T o n y]

I'd prefer they didn't, but thank you all for confirming my point that guns are particularly dangerous.

[Jordan]

I'd prefer they didn't, but thank you all for confirming my point that guns are particularly dangerous.

And?

[Jordan]

Not to mention APCs and grenade launchers.

[Xenocles]

Don't need a gun to direct traffic.

[Sevo]

Gee, shithead, I'll bet you think there was information content in that post.

[brlfq]

T o n y lands two fish with one cast. Not bad.

[Sevo]

Shithead deserves to get bit by whatever he casts for.

[brlfq]

But you're the one gurgling behind the hedge.

[Sheriff of Fistingham]

The LAPD, trusted only with dental floss, would have died horribly at the hands of Dorner and his trusty assault steak knife? Perish the thought?.

Ahh..from gods lips to your ear.

[RyanXXX]

Crossing my fingers for a forest fire...

[brlfq]

Nice. Do you know John?

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Fuck that shit.

[RyanXXX]

I can't have my lil escalation fantasies?

[Death Rock and Skull]

Its too moist. But living in a forest comes with natural risks that people are retarded to bitch about.

[brlfq]

In the end, all they found were a few teeth and a badly charred copy of Reason Magazine, cementing Dorner's place in libertarian lore.

[mike c.]

Hi Mary!

[Proprietist]

Hey this version of Mary was pretty entertaining if so.

[brlfq]

We're all Mary now.

[Cheradenine Zakalwe]

It's Marys all the way down.

[brlfq]

Hi Mary!

[Cheradenine Zakalwe]

I'm Fafnir.

[sage]

GET HIM!

[brlfq]

One more step and the nigger gets it!

[Generic Stranger]

So you're saying Dorner was Shriek? Spacey Toney is still posting, so he cant be him, and they're pretty much the only two Obama fellators on here.

[playa manhattan]

CBS saying "Fire stared after tear gas canister fired into cabin"
Incendiary device + wood cabin
hmmmm

[SweatingGin]

that can't be, tear gas canisters don't start fires.

[Killazontherun]

So says Chuck Schumer. If Hell were real I would envy the devil who gets to stick a pitchfork up his ass.

[Xenocles]

I thought a tear gas grenade worked by using pressurized gas to expel a powder - no heat involved.

[playa manhattan]

That's how the handheld grenades work. They are not as effective as the incendiary tear gas canister, and they are much shorter in duration....

[Archduke Pantsfan]

How is this the Norks fault?

[General Butt Naked]

So, who wants to bet that dunphy will take credit for taking this guy out?

"i was asked by the lapd to come down and use my skills as an astronaut, cop, and barista to help capture this guy.

the lapd cops are a good bunch of guys. i used to run the lapd SEAL squad when i left high school. but you bigots wouldn't understand the honor and sacrifice of these true heroes.

i shot bin laden and i secretly played lead guitar on a led zepplin police album because jimmy page is a friend of mine that i met when doing undercover work for interpol."

[Heroic Mulatto]

You forgot the part where Dunphy also claims to be the Dovahkiin.

[Killazontherun]

Holy shit. What an excellent voice.

Don't forget he is also Nerevarine, and has a graduate degree in psionics.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Forgot surfing

[General Butt Naked]

troll-o-meter 0.1

lol hth

[sarcasmic]

nice

[Archduke Pantsfan]

forgot power lifting

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Thought that was power bottom?

[Archduke Pantsfan]

forgot deep undercover

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

ATFPAPIC you're a mean bigorati.

[General Butt Naked]

its real easy for the REASON commenters and their anti-cop disease to say this stuff without EVIDENCE but you couch potatoes wouldn't understand that cops are under tremendous scrutiny by some guy that can totally send them home and stuff

you guys don't face that sort of pressure in your jobs sitting there being bigots all day

reminds me of guy i was in spetsnaz training with. he was honorable and was shot down my some punk shoplifter in anchorage. you bigorati wouldn't know what THATS like

[Archduke Pantsfan]

neads moar pointless acronyms

[Calidissident]

NOT enough RANDOM capitalization but STILL pretty GOOD.

B

[Death Rock and Skull]

typed from my iphone while i sit on the taxpayer clock

lol

[iggy]

i'll ignore the trolling aspects of your guys posts. i'm just glad we live in a system where the rule of law reigns and EMOTIONAL appeals to EMOTION like yours don't hold water in a court of law.

this reminds me of the time i proned a guy out back when i was a rook. did it turn out that he was the suspect i was looking for? no, a fact i found out after i'd STOPPed hitting HIM. he should have listened to me ASAP but he was an anti-cop bigot and so i made sure he stopped hating cops via PW (pistol whipping for those of you who don't know).

there is definitely an us vs. THEM mentality with both some cops and anti-cop haters, but i don't THINK i HAVE anything to apologize for.

[iggy]

Hahahaha. I was skimming the comments and actually thought this was him for a second. Well played.

[BuSab Agent]

Dunphy?

[Redmanfms]

ATFPAPIC you're a mean bigorati.

Just last week you were telling us how shameful our treatment of dumpster is......

[brlfq]

They are now reporting that the two female hostages were grandmothers with dog-like features. Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Janice Spencer has described their survival at the hands of Dorner as "miraculous."

[Heroic Mulatto]

At some point today, a suspect tried to get out the back door of the cabin, but he was pushed back inside, U.S. Marshals Service district chief Kurt Ellingson told CNN's Brian Todd.

Pushed back by whom? And if the was the police, how come they didn't, say, push him to the ground and restrain him?

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Smokey the Bear.

"Only I can start forest fires"

[brlfq]

Why are you asking us? How the fuck should we know?

[bmp1701]

This entire sordid affair is a result of the inherent fascism of agricultural city states. Agricultural civilization is consistently aggressive, invasive, and occupational. If you like the agricultural City-State (civilization,) you too are a Statist. When noble hunter-gatherers attempt to escape Gambol Lockdown, they are mowed down like Chocolate Rambo.

[Sheriff of Fistingham]

Noooooooo

[brlfq]

B+

[brlfq]

Chocolate Rambo. Melts in your house, not in your hands.

[Sevo]

bmp1701| 2.12.13 @ 9:08PM |#
"This entire sordid affair is a result of the inherent fascism of agricultural city states."...
Sarc or stupidity? My sarc meter has really taken some hits today.

[bmp1701]

Sarc or stupidity? My sarc meter has really taken some hits today.

What about your White-Indian-O-Meter?

[Cdr Lytton]

Your handle makes me think of some weird mash up between a Soviet tracked vehicle and Checkov's Russian distorted history.

"You are mivtaken. The Enterpriz waf bilt by Vrussians."

[DRM]

Dorner body recovered

[brlfq]

This is how Dorner ends.
Not with a bang, but a weenie roast.

[Hyperion]

WRONG! I am listening to the official LAPD announcement, right now. NO body has been found.

[Ben the Duck]

KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!

[Cdr Lytton]

There's a bad shoot tomorrow that could be swept under this!

[brlfq]

Run, Dorner, RUN!

[jesse.in.mb]

This guy's certainly special to have dragged this ordeal out for so long.