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California Lawmaker Proposes "Homeless Bill of Rights" to Legalize Pissing on the Street

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Hanging on with quiet desperation is the Californian way

Reports the Sacramento Bee:

The heart of Assembly Bill 5 would give legal protection to people engaging in life-sustaining activities on public property. Among other activities, it specifically mentions sleeping, congregating, panhandling, urinating and "collecting and possessing goods for recyling, even if those goods contain alcoholic residue." […]

[The] measure also would give homeless residents the right to sleep in cars that are legally parked, to receive funds through public welfare programs, to receive legal counsel when cited – even for infractions – and to possess personal property on public lands. Local officials could not force the homeless into shelters or social service programs. […]

The bill states that homeless Californians have the right to safe, affordable housing and 24-hour access to clean water and safe restrooms, but Paul Boden, a spokesman for one of its sponsors, said the measure is not meant to require cities and counties to add new facilities.

Boden and other advocates of AB5 say that existing laws to sweep the homeless from public view are similar to Jim Crow laws of decades ago in the segregated South, and to "anti-Okie" laws of the 1930s that prohibited bringing extremely poor people into California.

No reaction yet from Twilight actor Bronson Pelletier. Link via the Twitter feed of Josh Barro.

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  1. Or California could get rid of public property.

  2. “The streets are flooded with the ejaculate of the homeless, and you people are counting on the police?”

    Also, the homeless don’t vote. What’s the incentive for a bill of rights?

    1. But the bleeding hearts who desperately feel ‘we’ need to help them vote. And vote often!

    2. The streets are flooded with the ejaculate of the homeless

      Beating off is a right!

      1. “A well-shined dong, being necessary to the disgust of teen girls at the bus stop, the right to publicly bear and fondle your schwanz, shall not be infringed.”

        There. Now we can spend 100 years arguing if you can only only beat off in a public place if you do so in order to disgust schoolgirls.

        1. Scratch one “only.” I couldn’t help myself; once I did wrote it, I had to write it again.

          1. And now scratch “did” from the above. Christ, once you start fucking up your sentences, you just can’t stop.

            1. A Lutheran Pastor told me something similar about “touching yourself” when I was a kid.

              HE WAS RIGHT!!!

      2. A cop I know told me the story of breaking up a bum fight only to discover they were having sex using a plastic grocery bag as a condom.

        1. You mean, one was wearing the bag? The Naked Gun is now nonfictional, I guess.

          1. He even told me exactly where in the park. It’s now an ice skating rink. Perhaps a luck 10-year-old is pirouetting over it as we speak.

            1. I, for one, am thoroughly impressed they actually had the wherewithal to practice safe sex (or something at least in the ballpark).

              1. It makes you watch that scene in American Beauty with whole new eyes.

        2. We have the most sexually responsible bums in the world. I just swell with pride hearing stories like these.

  3. Oh please oh please oh please let this pass.

    1. let this pass

      I see what you did there.

  4. Good to see Kaliforneeyah is keeping its priotities straight.

    Also, “but Paul Boden, a spokesman for one of its sponsors, said the measure is not meant to require cities and counties to add new facilities.”

    To Mr. Boden I have only one thing to say to rebut your assertion – ADA.

  5. The bill states that homeless Californians have the right to safe, affordable housing and 24-hour access to clean water and safe restrooms, but Paul Boden, a spokesman for one of its sponsors, said the measure is not meant to require cities and counties to add new facilities.

    Uh huh. Foreseeable, not unintended, yada yada.

    1. But if they have housing…

      1. But most homeless don’t want housing. They are bums. They like living on the streets, begging and spending their money on booze or drugs.

        1. Sadly, you are correct. I learned this in the six months or so that I was homeless.

          There are people who are temporarily homeless due to crappy circumstances, like losing a job and being unable to pay rent. That’s the boat I was in. Those people will not be homeless for long because they find it unpleasant.

          Then there are those who make it a lifestyle. And they like it. No one to answer to. No responsibility. No ties. Hungry? Go to a church, shelter or soup kitchen. Want money? There’s always a need for day labor. Tired of the town you’re in? Move. It’s not like you’re tied to anything. Any effort to house those people will ultimately fail. Good luck getting liberals to accept that, though. Intentions trump results.

          1. I lost my innocence about homeless when I moved to Washington and talked to the bums outside of the restaurant where my then girlfriend worked. They all were quite honest about how they could make $8 an hour begging, sleep in the shelter, get free meals and pretty much have all the money they needed for whatever drugs or booze they liked.

            And yes, some honest people do end up homeless. And those we should help. But the rest of them, can fucking die for all I care.

            1. And yes, some honest people do end up homeless. And those we should help.

              How do you tell the difference and how do you help them?

              1. That is easy. The ones who are honest are happy to take a job or a place to live or take steps to get back on their feet. The ones who are not, want no part of that.

                Like you said above, honest people find being homeless unpleasant and will do anything to get out of it. The bums think it is a preferable lifestyle.

                1. So you’re saying that the ones who deserve help don’t need it, because they will help themselves. Right? If so, I agree.

                  1. But you can still help people who want to help themselves. There is a place for charity in the world. When you were homeless, if someone had realized your plight and offered you a place to sleep or a meal or an odd job, you would have taken it right? They would not have been wrong to take it.

                    Let me give you an example. I had a friend in law school whose father had a large business along with a sizable ranch. This was a guy who really could always find something for someone to do. Anytime he saw someone with one of those “will work for food” signs, he would stop and tell them he had a job if they were willing. Never once did he get someone to take him up on the offer. But if someone had, they would have been an example of the honest homeless, i.e. someone who wanted to work rather than beg.

                    1. Someone working a sign is not going to help themselves. That is a given.

                      Round here some guy was working a sign and made the mistake of contacting the newspaper to try to gin up some pity. The reporter actually investigated the guy and found he was living in a trailer, not really homeless, unemployed because he quit his job, had an extensive police record, and was generally a scumbag. They published the story and he was never seen again.

                      Anyway, by “help” I was thinking in the context of government action. If you want to help the homeless, I’d say giving to churches is where it’s at.

            2. And those we should help.

              As somebody who spends enough time working for a charity organization that it is practically a second full-time job, that is the rub. Separating the grifters from those genuinely in need is essentially what I do.

              My job there is to investigate and maintain a database of “charity shoppers.” It is difficult work sometimes, because there are some people who are truly in nearly perpetual need and they aren’t always that easy to differentiate from the grifters.

              1. To quote Joe from Lowell. Redmanfms, you really are doing Gods work in some of America’s toughest neighborhoods.

                1. Redmanfms, you really are doing Gods work in some of America’s toughest neighborhoods.

                  He really is, John. I accepted charity cases from Catholic Charities when I was in The States, and his work is never done WRT vetting people who needed medical care but could not afford it and almost literally did not have a pot to piss into and no real assets of which to speak. You would be surprised how many people would try to game the system by feigning destitution to get a procedure done at little or no cost to them when in reality, they could either afford it or could at least set up a payment plan.

        2. Bingo! When I lived in Venice Beach, it became apparent that many of the homeless actually had jobs in retail, coffee shops, etc. They chose to sleep in tents on the beach so they could squander their disposable income on drugs.

          Granted there was a contingent, say about 20% that were completely insane, and could not function in normal society. But I would guess a good 50% of the “homeless” like a mobile lifestyle, sleeping in tents, and having adventures.

          1. Familiarity really does breed contempt. My time in Southern California changed my mind about the homeless.

            Sure some were on a run of bad luck and looking to claw their way back into society. Most were flat-out bums. Interested in getting drunk and/or high, and generally relaxing while the rest of us work for a living.

  6. said the measure is not meant to require cities and counties to add new facilities.

    ‘Not meant to’ does not mean ‘will not’. Does California not realize they are flat fucking broke?

    1. “‘Not meant to’ does not mean ‘will not’. Does California not realize they are flat fucking broke?”

      The majority of CA voters think we can just get rid of Prop 13 and everything will be peachy.

      1. I hope it happens and I can’t wait for their taxes to go through the roof. And I look forward to business leaving the state in record numbers.

        1. You mean “in even greater than the current record numbers.”

  7. I worked with an immigrant who told me that in Cuba there is no homelessness because it is a crime to refuse a comrade who knocks on your door requesting a meal and a place to sleep.
    Likewise there is no need for public transportation since it is a crime to pass a hitchhiker.

    If only California was more like Cuba.

    1. I believe it’s only mandatory for government vehicles to pick up hitchhikers, and only if they have space for them.

    2. Give them time, the Dems only just got their super-majority.

  8. California’s state and municipal parks are meant to be used as toilets and crash pads for the homeless and other degenerates. Not to be used by all taxpayers in a way that increases health, recreation, and enjoyment. See the article below for an example.

    http://la.curbed.com/archives/…..s_park.php

    1. Apparently, parks are the government’s private property and can do as they see fit with them.

      1. You can use it how you like. But you shouldn’t be able to use it to other people’s detriment. If homeless can use it to harass people and shit and so forth, why can’t I use it to raise cattle? It is a public park right? I know my cows shit on everything and my bull gets pretty aggressive sometimes. But fuck you SF, sue me if he stomps you. Otherwise, you can’t complain. If the homeless can live there, I can raise cattle there.

        1. I was taking a swipe at Tulpa, John. That’s his “logic” for cities fucking over food trucks.

          1. Sorry. I missed that.

    2. Palisades Amusement Park
      Stinks all day and after dark.

  9. The inmates are in control of the asylum. In a sane world that would have been a link to The Onion, not the Bee.

    1. The difference between The Onion and The Bee is that the former usually runs the same story about two years earlier.

  10. Next thing you know, they’ll want to give non-homeless people a bill of rights! Where will it end?!!

    1. Does ours give us tons of free shit and access to any property we want too?!

      Hurrah, no more permits, insurance requirements, sanitation regulations or other impedimentia on public lands!

  11. Another step in California’s effort to legislative itself into Utopia.

    So, if they’ve basically given up and are saying, “Okay, make yourself at home outside on public land,” does this mean we can stop all that tax money we’re spending on social services?

    1. I think that would be a good compromise.

  12. No “right to travel” on empty rolling stock?

    Why does the Golden Bear State hate hobos?

    1. No, no! That is coming once they finish the Sooper High Speed Rail!

  13. So if I read this correctly, I can soon legally transport containers with alcoholics’ residue in them?

    1. Hobo killin’ and disposin’ made easy!

  14. Only in California do bums have the right piss on the beach but it’s illegal for me to toss a frisbee there.

  15. Also, I’m surprised that Matt didn’t link to this, especially since Bagge just had a piece yesterday.

  16. “homeless Californians have the right to safe, affordable housing and 24-hour access to clean water and safe restrooms”

    They had all of that before “caring” activists used the courts to close down all the nervous hospitals.

  17. So, it’s swell if homeless guys leave poop on the lawn at the public park, but a horrible crime if my dog does it. Gotcha.

    1. Well, your dog is better trained.

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