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Politics

New York Times: Is Our Miraculous President Just Performing Too Many Miracles?

Tim Cavanaugh | 9.25.2012 2:38 PM

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In a pretty good history of the Obama administration's response to the so-called Arab Spring in 2011, Helene Cooper and Robert F. Worth of The New York Times get a choice quote about the miraculously transformative powers of President Obama's powerfully transformative miraculousness: 

Mr. Obama felt keenly, one aide said, the need for the United States, and for he himself, to stand as a moral example. "He knows that the protesters want to hear from the American president, but not just any American president," a senior aide to Mr. Obama said. "They want to hear from this American president." In other words, they wanted to hear from the first black president of the United States, a symbol of the possibility of change.

It comes as no surprise that Obama felt the need for his magical presence "keenly," but what's kind of disappointing is that Cooper and Worth seem equally convinced that, when he's not causing the sun to rise in the morning, This American President can engineer outcomes in faraway lands. The Times describes how Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen, Assistant Secretary of State Jeffrey D. Feltman and others cautioned against publicly urging then-president of Egypt Hosni Mubarak to resign: 

Mr. Mubarak had steadfastly stood by the United States in the face of opposition from his own public, they said. The president, officials said, countered swiftly: "If 'now' is not in my remarks, there's no point in me going out there and talking."… 

So "now" stayed in Mr. Obama's statement. Ten days later, Mr. Mubarak was out. 

Undoubtedly protesters and leaders in other countries pay some attention to what the President of the United States says. They hardly have a choice on that matter. Unlike the spectacularly uninformed Obama voters interviewed in New York for the Howard Stern show, they actually have to worry about U.S. policy. 

But this is the flipside of the Krauthammerian argument that Obama's policy of weakness and appeasement is responsible for the current unrest in the Islamic world (where, confusingly, the U.S. ambassador was killed in the one country whose leader Obama used armed force to overthrow). It's absurd to believe that Mubarak, or for that matter Zine El Abidine Ben Ali or even Ferdinand Marcos, would have stayed in power without an American shift. If the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq haven't taught you that even American power has limits, you're unteachable. 

"In the end, many of the advisers who initially opposed Mr. Obama's stance now give him credit for prescience," Cooper and Worth write. "But there were consequences, and they were soon making themselves felt." 

There may have been consequences, but they're more in the nature of making American allies realize that they don't have a very reliable friend – something close watchers of U.S. foreign policy should have realized long before Obama came into office. Whatever you want to say about Benjamin Netanyahu (and who wouldn't rather party with Jay Z than meet the dour Israeli PM?), he stuck by Mubarak after the whole world had turned against him. Obama's shift may not show much steadfastness, but it was part of a long pattern of U.S. patronage, and it had about as much effect as his sniveling denunciation of religious slander at the United Nations this morning will have the next time some mob burns down a Coptic church. 

Courtesy of JPod's Twitter feed. 

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  1. The Late P Brooks   13 years ago

    Not just any tent-show snake handler...

  2. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    I don't want to live in a world where the leader of its free part is impotent.

  3. tarran   13 years ago

    Obama is such a fucking narcissist that it's actually comical.

    1. Episiarch   13 years ago

      I don't think it's possible for anyone but a megalomaniac to win the presidency any more.

      1. tarran   13 years ago

        Well, Gerald Ford pulled it off.

        "Frankly, I've never felt voting to be all that essential to the process."

        1. Joe M   13 years ago

          Dude, that was like, four thousand years ago.

        2. Episiarch   13 years ago

          "Hey, sugar cookie. You know, legally, nothing I can do counts as sex anymore."

          1. Mr. Soul   13 years ago

            "Has anyone seen Ulysses Grant? He owes me a cheroot."
            "He's over there, puking in the Bushes."

        3. H. Reardon   13 years ago

          Ford never 'won' the presidency. Hell, he didn't even 'win' the vice-presidency - he was appointed.

          1. H. Reardon   13 years ago

            Which, after re-reading you're post, you're aware.

          2. Episiarch   13 years ago

            That was tarran's joke. Note the Futurama quote right below his joke, confirming it?

            1. H. Reardon   13 years ago

              I left my copy of 'Bender's Quotable Quotes' next to the john.

  4. DanD   13 years ago

    I hadn't taken the time to listen to that Stern segment until now. Oh my stars there are some stupid people out there...

    1. Episiarch   13 years ago

      I can't WTFV at work. Any chance you might post a few quotes?

      1. Paul.   13 years ago

        "We like Obama because...garbleglarghgurble giggetybobemschmoot... your shoes untied! LOOK SHINY THINGS!"

      2. DanD   13 years ago

        This was asked several times:
        Interviewer: "If Obama gets re-elected, do you think he will find and kill Osama bin Laden?"

        The answers were all over the board, but suffice to say none of the people responded as if they knew bin Laden was dead.

        The interviewer also asks about how viable Sarah Palin is as a vice-presidential candidate this time around, what margin of victory McCain will have, etc. The interviewees just talk out of their ass. You have to listen to it when you get home. Quotes won't do it justice.

        1. Episiarch   13 years ago

          Howard was always good at hiring people who were masters at asking stupid questions, starting with Stuttering John.

      3. Warty   13 years ago

        "Does it bother you that Mitt Romney is black?"

        "No. That's not the issue, no."

        1. John   13 years ago

          Why do you hate light skinned black women Warty?

          1. Killazontherun   13 years ago

            Their berries aren't as sweet as their darker sisters, yet not as satisfyingly bitter as that of white women. Light skinned black women are kind of the American adjunct lager of cunnilingus.

            1. Masturbatin' Pete   13 years ago

              This upsets me.

          2. Warty   13 years ago

            Sorry, what was the question again?

      4. Warty   13 years ago

        "What percentage of the vote do you think McCain will get against Obama in 2012?"

        "Mmmmmmm...40."

        "40? So you think it'll be a close race?"

        "Yes."

      5. Marshall Gill   13 years ago

        In response to "do you think Obama will get bin Laden on woman said something like, "I don't believe in war so I don't think he should be killed...but you could torture him"

        1. Randian   13 years ago

          "Do you think Obama chose Paul Ryan for Vice President because he's African American or because he's qualified?"

          "Uh, it could be a little of both"

  5. rac3rx   13 years ago

    I haven't been around a few days. Has anyone posted this yet?
    http://unskewedpolls.com/
    Looks like someone is adjusting down the D samples in the polling to match reality. Hizzoner isn't looking too good.

    Of course, I don't know that much about the source, other than it can't be anymore jacked up than any of the remainder of the data being published this cycle.

    1. T o n y   13 years ago

      That would be the "reality" Sean Hannity wakes into each morning. The poll is adjusting the D sample to match a preferred turnout outcome, not reality.

      1. Mike M.   13 years ago

        So do you honestly believe that the "Hope and Change" turnout is going to be just as big or even bigger this time around as it was in '08?

        1. T o n y   13 years ago

          I believe that the methodology of every reputable poll in the country is to be better trusted than that of Rasmussen or this new outfit. We'll see who's right on election day, but the fact is Republican self-identification has plummeted recently while Democratic ID has stayed relatively flat.

          1. Mike M.   13 years ago

            Nice dodge there.

        2. KDN   13 years ago

          Of course not, but these polls are nonetheless bullshit. It's based on an R+4 sampling that will never happen:

          When the data from the Reason-Rupe poll is unskewed by weighting their reported percentages between Romney and Obama to the partisan affiliations showed by Rasmussen's extensive data results on that issue, the overall picture of the race is different. With Republicans weighted 37.6 percent, Democrats at 33.3 percent and Independents at 29.2 percent, the results calculate to Romney leading Obama by a 52 percent to 45 percent with about three percent undecided

          1. darius404   13 years ago

            So you're saying Rasmussen's data results are wrong? Because I don't see the quote supporting your view.

  6. sarcasmic   13 years ago

    Slightly off topic: Cop kills 83 year old woman and all he gets is a paid vacation.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....ruder.html

    1. Paul.   13 years ago

      Been posted...

  7. Brett L   13 years ago

    Man, the Spanish are pissed.

    1. Paul.   13 years ago

      Looks like a Mentos commercial.

      1. Brett L   13 years ago

        Except now with gunshots and cops charging the crowd.

    2. Warty   13 years ago

      What are they rioting over? Jamon shortage or something?

      1. Brett L   13 years ago

        Running out of other peoples' money, as best I can tell.

        1. darius404   13 years ago

          So jamon, then.

      2. Episiarch   13 years ago

        Well, that's certainly a legitimate gripe if so.

    3. Paul.   13 years ago

      My spanish is rusty, but I'm reading the sidebar, something about 15 detained due to some congresstional dispute?

      2000 people in the affected zone regarding the Serranos incident?

      1. Brett L   13 years ago

        "incendio" is fire. That's a forest fire.

        1. Paul.   13 years ago

          Ha! I was wondering what the hell any of this had to do with "synchronized swimming" then I clicked on the link-- it actually was about synchronized swimming. Not related to the riot. That would have been awesome.

      2. Trespassers W   13 years ago

        the Serranos incident

        So you're saying it is ham-related.

  8. Tman   13 years ago

    Bumps in the road people!

    Yesterday I posted a comment to Restoras that he just needed "A few more appeasing press releases and everything will be fine."

    Little did I know he would deliver this press release at the fucking UN.

    What a joke this guy is. Just terrible.

    1. Paul.   13 years ago

      The longer we go without Christians and Mormons rioting in the streets here in 'Murrica, the dumber he looks.

  9. T o n y   13 years ago

    I was certain Reason would give Obama credit for his strong defense of the principle of free speech at the UN today. Just kidding.

    "Intolerance is a form of violence," he quoted. Apparently there's something wrong with that sentiment. Apparently his job as US president is to stand unequivocally on the side of religious bigots just because they are using speech.

    1. Tman   13 years ago

      DANCE MONKEY!!!

      1. T o n y   13 years ago

        Obama defended free speech as strongly as anyone here could ask for.

        1. Ayn Random Variation   13 years ago

          Do you get paid by the post or the word?

        2. darius404   13 years ago

          You mean right before he encourage more rioting over offensive language?

      2. Episiarch   13 years ago

        Sockpuppets gonna troll.

        1. Tman   13 years ago

          He is just so sadly predictable. Obama could devour an infant on live television and he would come here arguing how the nutritional benefits of infant meat will lower healthcare costs in the long run.

          Dog whistle, thy name is Tony.

          1. T o n y   13 years ago

            If he does that I will be forced to admit that you rightwingers were correct about him all along.

            1. Tman   13 years ago

              Good to know your limit for supporting Obama stops at devouring a live infant.

              A guy has to have his standards.

              1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                Excellent. T o n y has finally drawn his line in the sand.

                1. Randian   13 years ago

                  PBUH!

                  1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                    Romney would have devoured two.

                    1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

                      Oh yeah? Well I heard that Gary Johnson can juggle three infants at one time, taking a bites out of them as he goes.

                2. Trespassers W   13 years ago

                  Excellent. T o n y has finally drawn his line in the sand.

                  Sure. But lines in the sand aren't all that permanent, if you haven't noticed.

    2. John   13 years ago

      The future does not belong to those who slander the Prophet Muhammad.

      Yeah that is one hell of a defense of free speech Tony.

      1. T o n y   13 years ago

        You're saying that's who the future should belong to?

        1. Paul.   13 years ago

          *facepalm*

          False equivalency, T o n y.

          The future is free speech... you do get that, right? You do get that?

          Can the Muslims please have their fucking reformation so people like T o n y understand what "moving forward" is?

        2. John   13 years ago

          So anyone who is not a believing Muslim has no place in the future? That is what that is saying you half wit.

          1. T o n y   13 years ago

            Yeah I'm sure that's what he meant.

            1. John   13 years ago

              So he is a moron who says things he doesn't mean in front of the UN.

              Well that makes things better (not).

        3. Greg83   13 years ago

          "The future" doesn't "belong" to anyone or anything.

          Are all of Obama's speechwriters clueless far-left ideologues in their 20s, or just most?

          1. T o n y   13 years ago

            Probably people who realize who the intended audience is of a UN speech.

            1. darius404   13 years ago

              People who will be encouraged to riot whenever they're offended? Since that will get them more speeches condemning their critics, and more attempts to put people in prison for offending them.

        4. John   13 years ago

          And you better hope it belongs to them Tony. Every time your boyfriend fucks you up the ass, you are slandering Islam.

          1. T o n y   13 years ago

            Don't be vulgar.

            1. John   13 years ago

              It is true. If you want the freedom to do what you want, you better hope the future belongs to those who slander Muhammad.

              1. T o n y   13 years ago

                As long as they're not Christians, I'm with you.

                1. John   13 years ago

                  Sorry Tony. But the President just said it had to be Muslims. Would you prefer to be behaded or have a wall dropped on you?

                  I am sure you will believe that you are better off living in a Muslim country than an evil Christian one right up until the fist stone hits your head.

                  1. T o n y   13 years ago

                    I believe we're all better off not having thousand-year-old fairy tales govern our passions.

                    Obviously the Muslim world needs to reform. But an American president's job is not to lecture them into doing that (since he won't be successful), but to protect US national security interests.

                    You are John, are you not? I don't get the feeling you're thinking this one through.

                    1. darius404   13 years ago

                      But an American president's job is not to lecture them into doing that

                      It's also not his job to lecture people who offend them.

                2. John   13 years ago

                  And Tony you are a horrible bigot and a racist. I feel sorry for you most days.

                  1. T o n y   13 years ago

                    I feel sorry for any adult who still believes in Santa Claus.

                    1. Trespassers W   13 years ago

                      I feel sorry for any adult who still believes in Santa Claus.

                      Stop slandering the Lord! That's a form of violence!

                    2. darius404   13 years ago

                      I feel sorry for any adult who still believes in Santa Claus.

                      The future must not belong to those who slander Santa Claus. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of the Easter Bunny is desecrated, eggs are destroyed, or the Tooth Fairy is denied. Let us condemn incitement against Christmas goers, and Kwanzaa celebrators.

                    3. T o n y   13 years ago

                      That's pretty much how I view that passage. But unlike libertarians I live in the world that actually is, and that world is overrun with believers in various Santa Clauses and Easter Bunnies.

                    4. darius404   13 years ago

                      That's pretty much how I view that passage.

                      And yet you've been defending it, and claiming it doesn't undermine the rest of his speech, for almost this entire thread. When people riot over something, saying "we believe in free speech but we disapprove when it hurts your feelings" only encourages more extreme reactions.

                      unlike libertarians I live in the world that actually is

                      "Please don't riot, it makes us apologize" isn't a sensible reaction to reality.

                      overrun with believers in various Santa Clauses and Easter Bunnies

                      Which is exactly why you can't send the message that rioting will get you attention and apologies.

              2. Killazontherun   13 years ago

                Depends on whether or not Tony's balls have dropped. If he is prepubescent than what he is doing is perfectly acceptable according to Islamic tradition.

        5. Trespassers W   13 years ago

          I'm sure that if GWB had said "The future does not belong to those who slander Christ the Savior", Tony would have defended him just as vociferously.

    3. Paul.   13 years ago

      Uhh, no T o n y, his job is not to fucking comment at all on the artistic values of one of 360 million people who posted something on Youtube at 2am while drunk... his job is to explain, carefully, that there are 360 million different opinions in this country, and the United States will not suppress any of them, which includes the State Department asking to have Youtube remove the video.

      1. T o n y   13 years ago

        He did that. You probably don't get that particular clip on FOX News. He both strongly defended free speech and used his own free speech to condemn bigotry.

        Free speech doesn't mean we have to celebrate all speech or never criticize any speech. Even if you're the president.

        1. Paul.   13 years ago

          Nobody asked him to celebrate the film. He's the president... of all of us, T o n y. Meaning that he defends our free speech in aggregate. He does not have to, nor would I expect him to "celebrate" the message.

          What I expect him to do is defend Americans from the direct, named and specific threats of violence from foreign actors. Because all of us. Not 47% of us... all of us.

        2. darius404   13 years ago

          He did that.

          It really undermines his point when he then says that we must never offend other people or criticize their beliefs.

      2. Ayn Random Variation   13 years ago

        Why are you people arguing with an algorithm?

        1. Paul.   13 years ago

          It's range day.

    4. MJGreen   13 years ago

      "Intolerance is a form of violence," he quoted. Apparently there's something wrong with that sentiment.

      There is. Violence motivated by intolerance is violence. Intolerance itself is not violence. You can have a peaceful society of people intolerant of each others' beliefs or personal habits.

      1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

        Thoughtcrime is death.

    5. Trespassers W   13 years ago

      "Intolerance is a form of violence," he quoted. Apparently there's something wrong with that sentiment.

      Besides it not being true, it's fine.

      Apparently his job as US president is to stand unequivocally on the side of religious bigots just because they are using speech.

      His job as US president is to stand unequivocally on the side of free speech. Do you see the distinction?

      Instead, we get "Sir, I may not agree with what you say.. so you really shouldn't say it, because it's hurtful, and frankly, I'm probably going to look the other way if somebody wants to stop you, but I'll be sure to condemn them afterwards. Maybe."

      What a hero.

  10. Greg83   13 years ago

    "Intolerance is a form of violence,"

    LOL

    Yeah, fuck "definitions", words can mean anything we want them to!

    1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

      Some Tonyisms.

      Take: the violent act of not giving something to someone.

      Give: the violent act of not taking something from someone.

      Inaction: the violent act of not doing something.

      1. tarran   13 years ago

        I am violently commenting right now!

        1. JW   13 years ago

          Ow! Quit it!

      2. darius404   13 years ago

        First off sarcasmic, Tony's hatred of libertarianism offends me, so I'm going to bring him up on hate speech charges, ok?

        Second, and connected to my first point, your implication that offense isn't violence both undermines my case, and offends me. The FBI are on the way to your residence as we speak. So just sit tight, send your dog to your neighbor's house, and don't hold any pens when they find you, ok?

  11. Loki   13 years ago

    Mr. Obama felt keenly, one aide said, the need for the United States, and for he himself, to stand as a moral example. "He knows that the protesters want to hear from the American president, but not just any American president," a senior aide to Mr. Obama said. "They want to hear from this American president." In other words, they wanted to hear from the first black president of the United States, a symbol of the possibility of change.

    *barf*

    1. Eduard van Haalen   13 years ago

      Alert me when an Arab country elects its first black president.

  12. Mr. Soul   13 years ago

    "intolerance is a form of violence" reminds me of "its 65 degrees but feels like 68". We knew more about reality before you opened your mouth.

    1. T o n y   13 years ago

      He was quoting Gandhi...

      1. T   13 years ago

        Regurgitating somebody else's bullshit doesn't make it any less bullshit.

      2. ant1sthenes   13 years ago

        Like Joseph Stalin, and Gandhi, I'm the Cult of Personality.

        1. H. Reardon   13 years ago

          I exploit you, still you love me
          I tell you one and one makes three
          I'm the cult of personality

  13. Azathoth!!   13 years ago

    "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam..."

    He didn't say 'does not', it wasn't passive.

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