Protests, Protests, Protests, Protests, Protests and Dancing: P.M. Links

Scott Shackford | 9.14.2012 4:30 PM

The FBI is probing a set where parts of the Innocence of Muslims movie was filmed and has asked the set owner not to speak to the press about what he knows of the people behind the filming.
So far six have been killed at anti-American protests in Tunisia, Cairo, Sudan, and Lebanon.
Libyan Islamists are targeting U.S. reconnaissance drones with anti-aircraft weapons.
At a U.S. consulate in India, 86 protesters were arrested after smashing windows and trying to scale the compound's walls.
In Maldives, where there were reportedly anti-American protests today as well, the government has banned dancing in public in a campaign to strengthen "Islamic values."
The body of U.S. ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens is being returned home and President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will be in attendance.
Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hinted he might strike Iran without America's help. We're a bit occupied right now, you know?

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R C Dean 13 years ago

In Maldives, where there were reportedly anti-American protests today as well, the government has banned dancing in public in a campaign to strengthen "Islamic values."

The heck with it. I say we let the Argentinians have 'em.
1. Translucent Chum 13 years ago
  
  Are the Maldives real? I just googled and the shape of the islands sure looks like the Loch Ness monster.
2. Heroic Mulatto 13 years ago
  
  A country whose entire economy is based on Western tourism bans dancing in public?
  
  Brilliant!
3. Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago
  
  I smell a Footloose sequel!
  1. Brutus 13 years ago
    
    Wouldn't have been much of a movie if Kevin Bacon's head had been on a plate at the first objection to the no-dancing rule.
    1. Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago
      
      Says you.
4. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
  
  Stop that! I already missed the Maldives/Malvinas moment once today.
5. Tulpa Doom 13 years ago
  
  Nah, let global warming take care of them.
6. Mo 13 years ago
  
  Who knew the town in Footloose was Islamic?
  1. BakedPenguin 13 years ago
    
    And the actor who played the guy who fought against them was named... Bacon. OMG OMG OMG.
    1. Coeus 13 years ago
      
      That's what this middle east shit is really about. They found out about the new bacon feature on google.
      
      That's right:
      
      Google put bacon in their homes.
Caleb Turberville 13 years ago

Remember folks, "Hope and Change".
1. Caleb Turberville 13 years ago
  
  Also, Nobel "Peace" Prize.
  1. gaijin 13 years ago
    
    What a riot!
    1. Caleb Turberville 13 years ago
      
      I'm more of a fan of Camus than of Satre, but I can understand why someone would refuse to accept a Nobel Prize.
      1. ThatSkepticGuy 13 years ago
        
        Sartre's idea of "peace" entailed keeping a big smile on your face while your Communist overlords liquidated your property. shot your family and shipped your ass to the gulag.
2. Pippers 13 years ago
  
  Only have hope left.
  
  Nothing has changed there in 4000+ years.
3. wareagle 13 years ago
  
  but electing Obama meant the world would love us. Chris Matthews and his tribe told me so.
  1. Caleb Turberville 13 years ago
    
    And they're still telling us so.
    1. wareagle 13 years ago
      
      pay no attention to those mobs of people yelling, burning American flags, and otherwise looking like a more dangerous version of the Occutards. Instead, ask why Romney dared criticize The Obama.
      1. Corning 13 years ago
        
        Dude, didn't you hear!??!!
        
        Paul Ryan lied about his time in a Marathon race that happened over 10 years ago.
        
        VG Zaytsev 13 years ago
        
        That's the real reason that the mooslims are rioting.
db 13 years ago

Those aren't recon drones, they're cannon fodder to get the Libyans to expend their AA ordnance before the real planes show up.
1. LTC(ret) John 13 years ago
  
  These aren't the drones you're looking for?
Translucent Chum 13 years ago

Why is the big O making a photo op out of this. I'm not sure the visual of the president next to a bunch of caskets is a winner. I'm genuinely curious.
1. John 13 years ago
  
  Me too
2. Translucent Chum 13 years ago
  
  Ah, now I see. AP headline "Obama leads homecoming ceremony, GOP attacks"
  
  By Nedra Pickler and Jim Kuhnhenn
  Associated Press
  1. John 13 years ago
    
    the headline in today's New York Times was "Hearing from Obama helps ease rift in Egypt".
    1. wareagle 13 years ago
      
      I just threw up a little.
    2. db 13 years ago
      
      Yes, now the main debate over there is whether to use gasoline (big bright conflagration) or kerosene (long slow burn for longer protest) to burn US flags.
Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago

The FBI is probing a set where parts of the Innocence of Muslims movie was filmed...

HOW IS THIS A LEGITIMATE INVESTIGATION? What the hell?
1. Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago
  
  I can save them some time, by the way. It was filmed in front of the green screen.
2. John 13 years ago
  
  I thought using the FBI for political purposes kind of went out with Nixon.
  1. The Hammer 13 years ago
    
    It seems to have come back in fashion around 2009, randomly.
3. Heroic Mulatto 13 years ago
  
  The FBI is probing a set where parts of the Innocence of Muslims movie was filmed and has asked the set owner not to speak to the press about what he knows of the people behind the filming.
  
  Why? This person and the people who made the film haven't done anything illegal, as far as we can tell.
  1. wareagle 13 years ago
    
    on the other hand, speaking out could be dangerous.
    1. Heroic Mulatto 13 years ago
      
      But that should be the man's choice, not the FBI's.
      1. wareagle 13 years ago
        
        I agree with what you're saying, but the FBI's advice seems pretty sound here. The owner is free to disregard the request but how many more fatwahs do we need.
  2. Xenocles 13 years ago
    
    When I heard that on the radio this morning I was enraged. When I heard and read people who thought the producer should "be in jail," and not be too embarrassed to say it, it completely blew my mind. I had a Farnsworth moment.
    1. VG Zaytsev 13 years ago
      
      It's definitely rage inducing, but surprising - no?
      
      Face it, America's a fascist state now.
      
      One with a happy face, that only reluctantly cracks your skull for your own good, of course; but fascist none the less.
  3. Brutus 13 years ago
    
    Show Holder the man, and he'll find the crime.
4. Episiarch 13 years ago
  
  It doesn't matter if it's legitimate or not, it's political now. And were you actually delusional enough to think that we live under the rule of law?
5. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
  
  Well, this may end up with the government paying someone money. The more they throw their weight around, the closer this comes to an actionable First Amendment claim. I'm feeling a chilling effect right now, in fact.
John 13 years ago

http://www.breitbart.com/Breit.....-Will-Ease

Obama: The day I am inaugurated Muslim hostility will ease.

LOL
1. Pippers 13 years ago
  
  Said no one ever.
  1. wareagle 13 years ago
    
    oh please. Obama's hubris level is such that he thinks his mere presence can calm the seas. He made the apology speech in Cairo and, in the tape, played up his background and how wonderful it would be. Then he spent a week reminding anyone who would listen how he was now the world's leading killer of Muslims. He's a fraud.
2. Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
  
  Of course Romney's saying exactly the same thing:
  
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ml?hpid=z1
  1. John 13 years ago
    
    Maybe he is. But that is not what that link says. And even if he were, so what? That doesn't make Obama any less of a clown.
    1. Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
      
      The fact that Obama hasn't be able to put the fire out doesn't mean we should start throwing gasoline on it, which seems to be Romney's plan.
      1. Cytotoxic 13 years ago
        
        How would he be throwing gasoline on it? Blood is great fire-douser btw.
      2. The Hammer 13 years ago
        
        As opposed to Obama's apparent plan of rooting out the makers of the Narrative Pretext film and sacrificing them to the people who have already murdered at least 3 Americans?
      3. wareagle 13 years ago
        
        Obama has done the opposite of dousing the flames; he enables them to continue.
        
        He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. We're talking about fanatic Muslims here; there is one language tehy understand.
sloopyinca 13 years ago

Enough bad news for one day. Let's talk about Seattle's finest.

Now, according to dunphy badger, the violations to the court order don't count even when you later throw your ex-girlfriend out a second story window. So if this cop gets more than a slap on the wrist, it will prove the double-standard whereby cops are sentenced a lot more than the rest of us would be.
1. Warty 13 years ago
  
  you just jump to conclusions without even WAITING for the investication...you and your chidshb ilk keep torlling your hatred of cops
  
  meanwhile i and my brothers will stay out there keeping your safe...your welcome
  1. Trespassers W 13 years ago
    
    No, no, something about this doesn't add up at all... How did dunphy steal Warty's handle???
2. RedDragon6009 13 years ago
  
  You really should read the article.
  
  The wife claims she was not in the car when he was pulled over and that he did not violate the no-contact order. And while it appears that she's lying, that at least means she was ok with him violating it. I'm not saying he's not a bad cop since he seems to have a history of problems, but this seems like a not-story to me.
  1. Tulpa Doom 13 years ago
    
    ATFPAPIC: truth 1, bigorati 0
    1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
      
      Bullshit, Tulpa. She's lying. And it's not up to her if it's OK for him to violate a court order. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if the judge held her in contempt.
3. Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
  
  At first I thought you were gonna talk about coffee, which mad me happy, but then I realized you meant the cops, and that made me sad.
4. Coeus 13 years ago
  
  Now sloop, I like you and all, but you're trying too hard to make "dunphy badger" happen.
Jerry on the road 13 years ago

Is it just me or is the CIA really that bad in film making?
1. VG Zaytsev 13 years ago
  
  No shit.
  
  It's transparently a false flag operation.
rts 13 years ago

Shooting unarmed veterans not confined to US

His family said there are many questions they want answered about his death, including why police used lethal force on a man on his own property when the family has been told Matters was not armed.

Sorry this has nothing to do with Islamic protests.
Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago

The Innocence of Muslims, a movie that has enraged radical Islamists who have rioted and committed murders in the Middle East this week, was partially shot on a set that Paramount's TV unit helped to build for its TV show JAG...

JAG, on the other hand, is a show that has delighted people the world over who appreciate an entertaining combination of Top Gun, A Few Good Men, and Catherine Bell's breasts.
1. John 13 years ago
  
  Anything involving Catherine Bell's breasts is made for TV entertainment. She has the best body in Hollywood even in her 40s.
  1. Heroic Mulatto 13 years ago
    
    She has the best body in Hollywood even in her 40s
    
    She is bangin' but that's stretching it a bit.
    1. Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago
      
      It's stretching my britches is what it's stretching.
    2. John 13 years ago
      
      She started out making her living as a body double. She was the woman that other actresses wanted people to think their body looked like.
      1. Libertymike 13 years ago
        
        Putting aside just where along the superlative continium she sits, Ms. Bell is unambiguously and unequivocally, smoking.
  2. Killazontherun 13 years ago
    
    Just googled an image search to remind me. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
2. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
  
  I never watched the show, but I always assumed people watched it for the last two reasons only.
  1. wareagle 13 years ago
    
    pretty much. The rest required a suspension of disbelief on a nuclear level.
    1. Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago
      
      That show was totally believable and accurate. Lt. Commander Harmon Jag flew around the world in his F-14 solving mysteries in the name of the United States Navy, just like our Naval aviators do on a daily basis. SO YOU SHUT YOUR UNPATRIOTIC WHORE MOUTH.
      1. wareagle 13 years ago
        
        you left out the part about his being the Navy's version of Perry Mason, righter of societal wrongs, protector of the downtrodden, and friend to stray puppies the world over. Good god, teh man should be on a postage stamp if not currency.
        
        Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        You ever notice how it was "Hamilton Burger" whenever they used his full name, but "Ham" when they were talking to or about him informally?
      2. Episiarch 13 years ago
        
        There are other people in that show besides Catherine Bell and Zoe McClellan?
      3. NoVAHockey 13 years ago
        
        I can't read "Naval aviator" without doing it Louis Gossett Jr voice
        
        Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago
        
        That's how I typed it.
        
        Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        I just beat up Richard Gere reading that.
  2. Joe M 13 years ago
    
    2 out of 4 ain't bad.
sloopyinca 13 years ago

Cops fired for using stun guns as party favors to be reinstated.

I guess if they had been trained not to use them to stun each other, other city employees and family members at parties, they could have been punished...or, I don't know, charged with a fucking crime.

I wonder if this is worthy of the "adults" discussing it, or is it going right to the troll-o-meter?
1. Brett L 13 years ago
  
  Heh. Almost as good as FL Corrections agents stunning their own 10 year olds at take your kid to work day. Almost.
  1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
    
    I said this elsewhere, but it bears repeating: Florida is the prolapsed colon of the south.
    1. RedDragon6009 13 years ago
      
      It looks more like a flaccid penis, or at the very least, the hairless scrotum of North America.
    2. Episiarch 13 years ago
      
      Knock off the collective shit, Ken. ProL and BP are assholes because some FL cops are shitheads? Because that's what you're saying.
      1. JW 13 years ago
        
        Don't be stupid. At best, they're only polyps.
        
        Episiarch 13 years ago
        
        BZZT
        
        The correct answer is that they're assholes because they're assholes.
        
        JW 13 years ago
        
        You only say that because you see them at the monthly Asshole meetings.
        
        Episiarch 13 years ago
        
        Never said I didn't. By the way, are you bringing the doughnuts at the next one, or is Warty?
        
        JW 13 years ago
        
        I'm on refreshment duty. Mr. Pibb for you again?
        
        Episiarch 13 years ago
        
        No, let's mix it up. Bring me some Mello Yello Cherry.
        
        Warty 13 years ago
        
        Mello Yello Cherry
        
        Are you asking me to punch him in the kidneys again?
      2. Warty 13 years ago
        
        Are you claiming that ProGlib and BonerPenis aren't assholes?
        
        Episiarch 13 years ago
        
        Note my response to JW. And their names are ProLosertate and ButtProlapse.
        
        Warty 13 years ago
        
        Fuck you, Episs-ache.
        
        Episiarch 13 years ago
        
        Whatever, Warty. See, your handle is so stupid I don't even have to change it to make it insulting. Idiot.
      3. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        Oh, we suck. But we're better than O-H-I-O. I know, I did a tour there. I've got the thousand-yard stare to prove it.
        
        Episiarch 13 years ago
        
        Did you at least visit the Mothersbaugh residence while you were there?
        
        WE ARE NOT MEN
        
        Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        I felt the presence when driving through Akron.
        
        Warty 13 years ago
        
        "You listen to ProLib, new guy. He knows ti ti. Very little. You know he's never been in the shit,'cause he ain't got the stare."
        
        "The stare?"
        
        "The thousand-yard stare. A reasonoid gets it after he's been in Ohio for too long. It's like...it's like you've really
        seen beyond. I got it. All the old reasonoids got it. And you'll have it too."
        
        EDG reppin' LBC 13 years ago
        
        Fuck Michigan!
  2. John 13 years ago
    
    That can't be true. That is a scene out of The Hangover.
    1. Brett L 13 years ago
      
      Franklin CI. Link here.
  3. R C Dean 13 years ago
    
    I guess they thought it was take down your kid at work day.
mad libertarian guy 13 years ago

What. The. Fuck.

Our government, and a bunch of leftists who sincerely want to believe that Islam is the religion of peace, are off their fucking rocker with this goddamn video.

Murderers are rampaging various embassies around the world, and Americans want to blame a fucking video. Believe that there is just NO WAY that Islamists would EVER incite violence on their own.
1. Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
  
  And what's your solution? They suddenly start loving us if we just kill enough of them?
  1. Spoonman. 13 years ago
    
    Leave them to wallow in their filth. Any who want to move here and make good lives for themselves are welcome.
  2. Bam! 13 years ago
    
    Acknowledging the real reason for the attacks -- or at least not coming up with such bullshit -- would be a nice start.
    1. ThatSkepticGuy 13 years ago
      
      "Acknowledging the real reason for the attacks -- or at least not coming up with such bullshit -- would be a nice start."
      
      No, see, this isn't the result of an unreformed religion which preaches violence and destruction in the name of self-righteous hypocrisy, this happened because you're allowed to own things and say what you believe.
      1. Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
        
        Do you seriously think that if everyone in the Middle East was suddenly Christian instead of Muslim, there would be any less violence?
        
        Cytotoxic 13 years ago
        
        Yes.
        
        Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
        
        Well then you're a fool. The only thing that would change is what the angry mobs are chanting.
        
        wareagle 13 years ago
        
        The only thing that would change is what the angry mobs are chanting.
        
        bullshit. Squared. Islam is the only religion whose default response to damn near anything is violence. Usually expressed toward other people. All Muslims are not violent or terrorists, but damn near all acts of violence or terrorism the world over are carried out by Muslims.
        
        Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
        
        Islam is the only religion whose default response to damn near anything is violence.
        
        Oh irony, thy name is neocons.
        
        wareagle 13 years ago
        
        Oh irony, thy name is neocons.
        
        really, this? Show where I am wrong about Islam.
        
        Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
        
        No, the irony of a neocon complaining about other people "whose default response to damn near anything is violence".
        
        wareagle 13 years ago
        
        stormy,
        first, not a neocon, so focus on addressing the question rather than trying to score cheap personal shots. Muslims are who they are. Ignoring it does not make you sharper.
        
        The Hammer 13 years ago
        
        How many Christian mobs do you see storming embassies and murdering people?
        
        Gray Ghost 13 years ago
        
        How many Christian mobs do you see storming embassies and murdering people?
        
        Pre-Reformation, quite a few.
        
        Among the problems is that Islam hasn't had theirs yet.
        
        Killazontherun 13 years ago
        
        Witches fault letting themselves be tricked into building embassies.
        
        Entropy Void 13 years ago
        
        ... and this is MY concern because ...
        
        hotsy totsy 13 years ago
        
        Islam needs an Enlightenment ,not a Reformation. The Reformation's basic tenets are very similar to Islam.
        
        Corning 13 years ago
        
        Well then you're a fool. The only thing that would change is what the angry mobs are chanting.
        
        I still say the world would be completely different without Islam so it would be impossible to tell what the fuck would be going on. Maybe without Islam the golden horde would have conquered all of Europe and the Middle East and Christianity would have been snuffed out.
        
        But in comparison why isn't South America in protest right now?
        
        Is the Middle East cursed ground or something?
        
        Your premise is a fantastical impossibility and your stance on your premise relies on magic.
        
        Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
        
        But in comparison why isn't South America in protest right now?
        
        What makes you think they aren't?
        
        http://tinyurl.com/98r6kh2
        
        hotsy totsy 13 years ago
        
        YES!
        
        hotsy totsy 13 years ago
        
        To Corning that is.
        
        Corning 13 years ago
        
        You would have to completely undo 1500 years of history including the preservation of Roman and Greek text by Muslims...So who the fuck knows what the world would look like without Islam.
        
        My guess is Christianity would look very different then it does today without the influence of Islam.
        
        Killazontherun 13 years ago
        
        Common misunderstanding. Pre-Islamic Arabs preserved Roman and Greek texts. Islamic ones burned many. That which survived intact owed absolutely nothing to Islam.
        
        http://www.gutenberg.org/files......htm#koran
        
        The learned men of Alexandria asked the Caliph Omar to give to them the vast library at Alexandria. "If those books," he replied, "contain anything which is contrary to the 'Koran' they deserve to be destroyed. If they contain what is written in the 'Koran,' they are unnecessary." He ordered them to be distributed among the baths of the city, to serve as fuel for their furnaces.
        
        Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
        
        While Islamic Arabs certainly did destroy a lot of "pagan" documents during their expansion, the burning of the library of Alexandria by Caliph Omar is largely considered a myth. The library had been long gone by the time Omar sacked Alexandria circa 640.
        
        Most of it was destroyed entirely by accident by either Casear or Aurelius (depending on which account you believe), and the remainder was destroyed at the order of the Coptic Pope Theophilus of Alexandria in 391.
        
        Lisa 13 years ago
        
        Islam is as much political as it is religious. Modern day Christianity is not that political, hence the reason that there are more Christians in communist China than the free world.
        
        I think much of the debate regarding the "Are Muslims violent?" would be go away if people realized that it is a political movement.
    2. Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
      
      Yes, but if Obama suggested that it's not suprising that after 50 years of killing hundreds of thousands of people and backing brutal dictatorships in the region, there's is a lot of anger toward the US, he'd be accused of apologizing for America again.
      1. Cytotoxic 13 years ago
        
        "killing hundreds of thousands of people"
        
        He should be accused of making shit up but I guess that's your job.
  3. Cytotoxic 13 years ago
    
    My solution involves sudden death. That tends to end violence.
  4. mad libertarian guy 13 years ago
    
    And what's your solution? They suddenly start loving us if we just kill enough of them?
    
    Where the fuck did you get that from?
    1. Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
      
      People like Cytotoxic and Wareagle, who seem to think we live in an 80s action movie.
      1. wareagle 13 years ago
        
        let's just send them more money and pretend nothing happened. These are fucking barbarians. Treat them as such. If they want to be considered civilized human beings, they can start acting like it. My solution gave them a choice to make things right without any action on their part.
      2. Lisa 13 years ago
        
        That would sounds a lot more enjoyable than bending over backwards for people who become homicidal over stupid obscure films.
        
        Lisa 13 years ago
        
        *-would
2. Dr. Frankenstein 13 years ago
  
  Of course the video made them do it. They're cavemen and our moving pictures frighten and confuse them.
  1. MWG 13 years ago
    
    RIP Mr. Hartman.
3. Tulpa Doom 13 years ago
  
  The video angle is being pushed because it distracts from the question of HTF a US embassy can be breached by a mob of yokels.
  1. mad libertarian guy 13 years ago
    
    That's easy.
    
    The video made them so enraged that they were suddenly able to take on the marines.
    1. Heroic Mulatto 13 years ago
      
      That. Or Retard Strength.
      
      I'm going for Retard Strength.
Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago

Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hinted he might strike Iran without America's help.

They don't need our help, really, just the absence of our hindrance. The only reason he would attack before November would be if he was thought his bro Obama was a shoo-in.
1. Episiarch 13 years ago
  
  I doubt Netanyahu is a big Obama supporter. Maybe I'm wrong. Got any evidence?
  1. Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago
    
    You can't tell the sarcasm font from the normal font? Get a new browser.
    1. Episiarch 13 years ago
      
      I'm using your mom's, I guess that's why the font was wrong. Oh, she tried to say "hi" but her mouth is full.
      1. Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago
        
        Well tell her I have some laundry fo- HEY WAIT A MINUTE.
2. RedDragon6009 13 years ago
  
  They don't need our help, really, just the absence of our hindrance.
  
  That and perhaps some reassurance that they'll still get some foreign aid from us if they do attack Iran.
Pro Libertate 13 years ago

Wait, India? What?
1. Doktor Kapitalism 13 years ago
  
  There are a lot of Muslims in India, even though Pakistan and Bangladesh broke off. Especially near the border.
  1. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
    
    No, I know that, but the Indian government isn't particularly fond of that minority, especially when it acts up.
    1. Stormy Dragon 13 years ago
      
      On the other hand, India isn't all that fond of us, either.
      1. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        They sort of like us. When they aren't disliking us.
        
        ant1sthenes 13 years ago
        
        If we had backed them more strongly and dumped Pakistan as an ally, they could be the Israel of Central Asia. Oh well.
        
        Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        I have never understood why the U.S. and India aren't closer allies. Bush actually made some moves in that direction, which is one thing to his credit.
    2. kbolino 13 years ago
      
      They did arrest 86 people, unlike in the other countries where these protests have occurred.
2. A Serious Man 13 years ago
  
  Wait, London. What? I know there's a shit ton of South Asians and Muslims in the UK, but to me that stands out the most, Muslims in first world shitholes hate us too.
  1. ThatSkepticGuy 13 years ago
    
    London has had no shortage of issues with Islamists within their own country over the past decade, whether it's Muslim students becoming violently disrutpive in classes that teach the Holocaust as historical fact or huge spikes of "retribution" rapes whenever someone poublically criticizes Islam.
3. Mo 13 years ago
  
  India has more Muslims than any country save Indonesia and Pakistan.
  1. MWG 13 years ago
    
    This is why I keep coming back to HR threads... you learn something everyday.
  2. Isaac Bartram 13 years ago
    
    What's interesting is that although Pakistan was split from the old British India as an Islamic country the Muslim population in India is very close to Pakistan's (177,286,000 vs 178,097,000 according to wikipedia).
    
    Also, many of India's Muslims are quite distrustful of Pakistan if some of the reports I've heard are true.
    1. Gray Ghost 13 years ago
      
      I don't find the prospect of reunification in the near future that far-fetched, especially if a Muslim attains high office in India. Which, again, doesn't seem that far-fetched in the next 25 years or so. Are there institutionalized rules/norms against Muslims in political office?
Archduke Pantsfan 13 years ago

You don't have to understand Czech to understand this post
http://ac.blog.sme.sk/c/307639.....mlada.html
1. Bam! 13 years ago
  
  Keep that image URL in your bookmarks: http://panzner.typepad.com/.a/.....cf8970b-pi
2. Trespassers W 13 years ago
  
  You don't have to understand Slovak, either.
3. Isaac Bartram 13 years ago
  
  Beautiful.
Hugh Akston 13 years ago

Libyan Islamists are targeting U.S. reconnaissance drones with anti-aircraft weapons.

Huh.
1. Doktor Kapitalism 13 years ago
  
  This is news? I would have assumed it was that way from the start.
  1. Hugh Akston 13 years ago
    
    Well yeah you'd assume Qadaffi was shooting at them, but don't these people know those drones are there to help them?
2. Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago
  
  The remote operators should get a moderate shock when their drones are shot down. They're expensive and there should be some personal incentive to avoid getting hit.
  1. Hugh Akston 13 years ago
    
    Connect operators to the drones Matrix-style. That way when your plane gets shot down, you die.
3. Tulpa Doom 13 years ago
  
  Unless The Bourne Legacy lied to me, all you need to take down a drone is a rifle and an angry canine.
  1. Hugh Akston 13 years ago
    
    Maybe I've misjudged that movie. I'll add it to the queue.
  2. Fist of Etiquette 13 years ago
    
    Well I guess I don't need to see that movie now. Thanks for the spoiler.
Christina 13 years ago

No One Was Murdered Because of This Image (NSFW)

http://www.theonion.com/articl...../?ref=auto
1. db 13 years ago
  
  Love it.
2. Restoras 13 years ago
  
  Pussies (no pun intended). Should have included Mohammad.
  1. Hugh Akston 13 years ago
    
    The lack of Mohammed was the point.
    1. Restoras 13 years ago
      
      Oh, yes I see. Well played, then!
generic Brand 13 years ago

But who will protect the public from unlicensed hairbraiders and interior designers??? People dying in the streets, kids starving, dogs marrying cats... all because some people try to make a living without getting the government's approval first!
sloopyinca 13 years ago

OK, it's baby name auction time. I'm gonna get it set up on ebay and post the link, probably some time over the weekend. I'm going to try and see how we can do an extended time period to stretch it to Thanksgiving.

We've decided that we are going to donate the money to the Reason Foundation, so it's going to be tax-deductible.

A few rules:
No profanity
No obscenity
Nothing too Jewey

We're going to open the bidding at $20, and bids can be taken here and I'll keep a running tally on the blog.
1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
  
  OK, I've been informed that that third rule is right out. Please disregard it.
2. Auric Demonocles 13 years ago
  
  Is the middle name up for auction too?
  1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
    
    Just the middle name. The first name is already picked out.
    1. Dr. Frankenstein 13 years ago
      
      Friend of mine gave his son the middle name of Zefram. True story.
3. Archduke Pantsfan 13 years ago
  
  Really? What if "Barack Hussein" wins?
  1. Auric Demonocles 13 years ago
    
    How is that possibly going to beat "Waitforit"?
    1. Restoras 13 years ago
      
      Ruprecht is a layup.
4. Brett L 13 years ago
  
  Remind us again, boy or girl?
  1. Restoras 13 years ago
    
    What the hell difference does that make?
    1. Brett L 13 years ago
      
      I'll not saddle a girl with the name 'Rapesquatch'
      1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
        
        See, I told Kara we should have kept the "Nothing too Jewey" rule in place.
      2. db 13 years ago
        
        That's rather presumptive of you. And damn creepy, considering the age difference.
        
        Brett L 13 years ago
        
        Ah. I see what you did there.
  2. sloopyinca 13 years ago
    
    Girl!
    1. Restoras 13 years ago
      
      I hope to The Creator you hold full veto power considering this crowd.
      1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
        
        I said no profanity. It's an auction for a reason: people can do what they want with the winnings within the rules.
        
        And it's like Penn Jillette said: nobody gives a fuck about middle names anyway.
5. Tulpa Doom 13 years ago
  
  Please don't inflict this on your kid...
  1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
    
    Feel free to bid, Tulpa, and give her a clean, wholesome name.
    
    By the way, I hear names, but I don't hear bid increments.
    1. db 13 years ago
      
      You're going to so regret this when Dunphy wins with the "Bigorati."
  2. db 13 years ago
    
    A legal name change can be executed at any time after the BC is filed, I think. Including immediately.
    1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
      
      We won't do that. The name will stick until the child is old enough to consent to a name change and pay for it herself.
      
      It's kinda like a reversible circumcision in that regard...but for a girl of course.
6. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
  
  If the name isn't Neil Armstrong Spicer, I'll fucking kill you. Do I win?
  1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
    
    Money talks, buddy.
    1. Restoras 13 years ago
      
      $20 for Locke
    2. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
      
      You can't take it with you.
7. Brett L 13 years ago
  
  I'll go $30.
8. Archduke Pantsfan 13 years ago
  
  Rachel Corrie $35
  1. Episiarch 13 years ago
    
    I won't be bidding but here are some suggestions for bidders:
    
    Spicer
    
    Middlename
    
    Ayessess
    
    Mua'dib
    
    Whoa
    
    Goddess
    
    Demon
    
    Shark
    1. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
      
      It's Muad'Dib, you illiterate buffoon.
      
      Raymond Luxury-Yacht. Pronounced Throatwobbler Mangrove.
9. Jesus H. Christ 13 years ago
  
  What's the first name?
  
  Also, I wonder how much "Cthulhu" would cost me?
  1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
    
    OK, her first name is going to be Reason. We decided that we just like the name, it means a lot to us and there's never been a vampire in a movie named that.
    
    Reason ________ Spicer.
    
    I believe we're currently at $35. And remember, people, this is all for charity, so don't sit on your hands.
    
    Can I get $40?
    1. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
      
      Reason in English? I'd do it in some other language. Like Grund or Raison.
      1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
        
        In esperanto, it's "Kialo". She'd be ready for the future and it also starts with a "K".
        
        Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        Perfectly obscure and even sounds somewhat like a name. Though Grund is more manly.
        
        sloopyinca 13 years ago
        
        Which does me no good whatsoever. Thanks a lot.
        
        Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        The Kialo. It's girlier, and it has the Shatner seal of approval.
        
        Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        Then Kialo.
      2. Atanarjuat 13 years ago
        
        Give it some ghetto style. Name her Rheizzonne (pronounced, reason).
    2. Episiarch 13 years ago
      
      Reason Why Spicer
      
      Reason? That's Why Spicer
      
      Reason d'etre Spicer
      
      Reason Hitundrun Spicer
      1. Generic Stranger 13 years ago
        
        Reason Ampersand Spicer.
    3. Joe M 13 years ago
      
      Forababynamed
      1. db 13 years ago
        
        Reason Drinkinggame Spicer
    4. R C Dean 13 years ago
      
      Put me down for $50. If I win, we'll figure out how to deliver the cash, and I'll want a copy of the birth certificate.
      
      I'm still thinking about a name.
      1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
        
        Jim is the high bidder at $100. Care to up that?
10. Corning 13 years ago
  
  Nothing too Jewey
  
  Call her Joshua!!
11. Corning 13 years ago
  
  So we re all going to pool our money and name her jezebel right?
  1. A Serious Man 13 years ago
    
    Jezebel Amanda Marcotte Spicer.
    1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
      
      You need to change your name to "A Serious Asshole".
12. Ted S. 13 years ago
  
  Go for something Finnish, like Yhti?vastike or Vivahteikas.
13. Entropy Void 13 years ago
  
  Dunphy?
  1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
    
    Needs less Dunphy.
  2. generic Brand 13 years ago
    
    I was just thinking of suggesting this as well.
A Serious Man 13 years ago

Hey Sloopy, could you toss me a link to your NFL pick 'em? I forgot to do last week and I would have gotten every game except the Niners and Redskins.
1. Auric Demonocles 13 years ago
  
  There were 5 people that didn't fill out the picks for last night's game. They gave up an easy point.
  1. Brett L 13 years ago
    
    I was too lazy to check, but I had a moment of fear where I was sure I had been foolish enough to pick in favor of Jay Cutler and bought the hype about the Bears D. Thankfully, I was apparently less drunk when I actually made the picks.
  2. A Serious Man 13 years ago
    
    Yeah, no amount of supposedly talented receivers can change the fact that Cutler is a little bitch. As a Green Bay fan that was especially satisfying to me.
    1. Red Rocks Rockin 13 years ago
      
      Scott Van Pelt on ESPN said on his radio show that Cutler had "bitter beer face." I damn near wrecked the car because I was laughing so hard.
      1. Brett L 13 years ago
        
        27 picks on 28 passes will do that to you.
2. sloopyinca 13 years ago
  
  Sure. Click this link
  
  Group ID: 38814
  password: reason
A Serious Man 13 years ago

Let's take a break from this ghastly news of protests and violence and mock Learjet Lizzie Warren for her unintentionally hilarious and retarded ad that likens her to a boxer.
1. Killazontherun 13 years ago
  
  She's got heart, she's got guts, and she is not going to back down. She is like a Jack Russel terrier, well, a rat terrier claiming to be a Jack Russel, and she's going in teeth and claw, ripping through Brown's big-money guy friends. Big money guy I call them because capitalist has too many syllables for my whacked up side the head brain to spit out. I'm voting Warren, because I'm just that stupid.
Doktor Kapitalism 13 years ago

Space Links:

That's kind of cool.
http://news.discovery.com/spac.....20914.html

Just for laughs.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/s.....57767950/1
1. Brett L 13 years ago
  
  The NASA heavy lift vehicle might just as well be nicknamed "the Vaporware". And mighty fucking expensive vaporware, too. No way it ever flies, but they'll suck down the $500M somehow. (Meanwhile SpaceX's total expenditures are somewhere south of $300M for actually delivering cargo to ISS.)
  1. Doktor Kapitalism 13 years ago
    
    Real heavy lift vehicle. And note the price range.
    
    http://www.spacex.com/falcon_heavy.php
    
    Though I've heard some skepticism of the 27 motor cross feeding idea.
    1. Brett L 13 years ago
      
      Its actually 3 fuel tanks cross feeding. Technically, I believe, the outer 2 feed the middle one so that it has a fullish load after 2/3rd of the fuel has burned off. Which immensely limits the complexity. That said, all 27 engines are supposed to be able to be independently throttled. I would be surprised to find this is what actually happens.
      1. Doktor Kapitalism 13 years ago
        
        That's essentially what I meant, but it's been a long week. The real question is how many engine-outs they can take. According to this video* multiple, but how many is that. And if they're going to be turning these things out like Volkswagens instead of Maybachs, they're going to have to sacrifice some quality control.
        
        *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f67rkCnC5M4
        
        Brett L 13 years ago
        
        Yeah. I believe their standard is still going to be 1 engine out per 9 engine cluster can still achieve orbit. So on the Heavy, they can lose 3, but they have to be the right 3. As they've had zero in 3 flights, well, so far, so good. I believe they do a full duration firing in McAllen before shipping the vehicle to Canaveral, so that probably helps the QC process.
2. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
  
  NASA "and its team of private contractors" are going to Mars. Leave out NASA, and that might even be true.
  1. Doktor Kapitalism 13 years ago
    
    I would be happy to step into NASA's place...
    1. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
      
      "Doktor Kapitalism and his team of private contractors are going to Mars. Next year."
      1. Doktor Kapitalism 13 years ago
        
        Nah, I've got a couple more years before I get my degree. 2020 is a good starting point, though. I can definitely beat NASA "sometime in the 2030s," but I think that I'd loose to Mars One.
A Serious Man 13 years ago

The complete Indiana Jones series will be released digitially remastered on Blu-ray next week and rest assured, IGN says it does not appear that Spielberg or Lucas made any alterations to the movies.

The scene I thought for sure Lucas and Spielberg would gut was where Indy shoots the Arab swordsman in Raiders of the Lost Ark. You know, he shoots first.
1. Brett L 13 years ago
  
  Fuck George Lucas with the business end of a rusty shovel.
  
  That is all.
  1. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
    
    I'm attacking the German embassy because of seeing a Lucas film.
    1. Brett L 13 years ago
      
      I'll be burning Skywalker Ranch.
    2. Archduke Pantsfan 13 years ago
      
      i'm going to screen "Howard the Duck" and then burn the theatre
      1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
        
        Um, this.
        
        That is all.
        
        db 13 years ago
        
        Thank you for that.
        
        db 13 years ago
        
        Thank you for that and fuck the server squirrels.
2. Episiarch 13 years ago
  
  Oh, they need to make an alteration. It's called erasing any evidence that the fourth one exists off the face of the planet.
  1. A Serious Man 13 years ago
    
    I've actually never seen the fourth one. Is it Star Wars prequels bad?
    1. Episiarch 13 years ago
      
      Yes. Don't watch it. Seriously, you do not want to see it.
      
      I saw it in the theater. Also, there is a South Park episode about it.
    2. Joe M 13 years ago
      
      Really, all you need to do is watch the first 30 seconds, see the CGI prairie dogs, and turn it off.
    3. VG Zaytsev 13 years ago
      
      Is it Star Wars prequels bad?
      
      Much, much worse.
      1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
        
        You people keep talking about Star Wars prequels and fourth Indiana Jones movies like they're real or something.
  2. Joe M 13 years ago
    
    They made a fourth one?
  3. Brett L 13 years ago
    
    What are you talking about? There is no fourth Indiana Jones movie.
  4. Brett L 13 years ago
    
    Also, Epi, I've been rereading Bloom County strips in published order. In '83 BB guessed '98 for Star Wars sequels. Turns out he was off by a year. I am also saddened by how relevant the average political strip is to our life. almost 30 years and nothing has changed but the names.
    1. Episiarch 13 years ago
      
      I have all the books, which are in order, and read them every few years.
      
      Yeah, it's relevant, but that's partly because Berke was so good at seeing the essence of it and expressing it.
      1. Night Elf Mohawk 13 years ago
        
        Lord knows we need more statesmen.
    2. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
      
      Sequels? Still waiting on those.
Nephi 13 years ago

Her impending loss is the only thing I have to look forward to this November.
1. Nephi 13 years ago
  
  Stupid Reason HnR s/w. This was in reply to the guy who linked the Liz Warren story.
Gojira 13 years ago

Question on the kid naming thing: can it be multiple words combined?

For example, if I wanted to toss a c-note on Robotjox or Electricboogaloo, is that allowable?
1. Gojira 13 years ago
  
  And if so, how many words? Could I do, Keithdavidisthegreatestlivingactor?
  1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
    
    OK, that last one is out, but I would consider Davidkeithisthegreatestlivingactor. You're OK with the Benjamin on Electricboogaloo or Robotjox. Take your pick.
    
    Corporate sponsorships are fine, with the exception of anyone who sells deep-dish, which I addressed in the "no profanity" rule.
    1. Gojira 13 years ago
      
      Sent you an email. Also sent epi one. I'm hoping he'll go half-sies with me on one. I was also thinking, "Jean-Luc", "Tiberius", "Gorn", or asking if I could contribute extra if we get Muad-Dib and everytime you introduce her to someone, you promise to tell them, "Her name is a killing word."
      1. LTC(ret) John 13 years ago
        
        If you get Muad'Dib in, I'll kick in $20 toward that.
        
        sloopyinca 13 years ago
        
        "And then there's Maud'Dib!"
        
        Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        Years ago, I did a bit on Urkobold where it was Zod instead of Maude. The whole reason was because I got that danged theme song in my head: "And then there's Zod!"
    2. Gojira 13 years ago
      
      Ohohoh, I know! How much for, "Iheartdunphy"?
      1. Archduke Pantsfan 13 years ago
        
        ^^^ THIS ^^^
    3. Gojira 13 years ago
      
      Or maybe, "copsrule", or "propolice".
    4. Episiarch 13 years ago
      
      You think David Keith is better than Keith David. So, that must mean you think Firestarter is better than The Thing. Which means you're retarded.
      
      OK, JJ, I will go in on this with you. But we need to choose wisely. Muad'Dib is very tempting because of the killing word bit.
      1. Gojira 13 years ago
        
        That, or Kwisatz Haderach. Though Dunphy or Policeone is also very tempting...but sure, I'll be happy to split it.
      2. Pro Libertate 13 years ago
        
        Two words: Family Affair. I win, bitch.
    5. Gojira 13 years ago
      
      Just think of it. You're daughter could be Reason Policeone Spicer.
      1. Coeus 13 years ago
        
        How about "porchmonkey"?
        
        I'm bringing it back.
        
        sloopyinca 13 years ago
        
        First, it's "I'm taking it back," so you fail.
        
        Second, well there is no second. You're free to bid $110 on "Porchmonkey," as the current bid is Robotjox at $100.
        
        Coeus 13 years ago
        
        Dammit, I fucked it up and it's tainted now. Can it be hyphenated? Reason Flash-Gordon Spicer. Or maybe Jar-Jar-Binks.
        
        db 13 years ago
        
        I think that technically, it has to be said while executing an epicyclic head shake to be valid.
        
        sloopyinca 13 years ago
        
        Again, it's the choice of the winner. I don't even want to know until the end of the whole thing what you guys are gonna pick.
        
        As of now, Jimbo is the high bidder at $100. I'm gonna post it on the blog (that has been neglected for quite a while) and you guys can feel free to comment in that thread. I'll use it and update here from time to time.
        
        db 13 years ago
        
        I would bid on "Kara" as it's my sister's name and a lovely one at that, but it might not be appropriate given Banjos' handle.
        
        Gray Ghost 13 years ago
        
        She could always claim that her parents were really big Catch-22 fans. Or bad 80s dance music. (Drawing a blank on any other double names.)
        
        Playing off of Gojira's suggestions, my contribution for her middle name is, "Badgebunny."
        
        hamilton 13 years ago
        
        "Reason Mayonnaise Spicer"
MakajazMonkee 13 years ago

This so should have been a Porn.....Hadith Nights....Cor Anne........but then again if it was true to life it would be illegal as Muhammed was a well documented paedo
blubi 13 years ago

Protests, protests, protests, and a few deaths - good way to trivialize

The FBI is "probing" who produced a film??? Isn?t this an attack on free speech, something what do you call it...libertarian that Reason should be concerned about?

Is it political correctness or cowardice?
1. sloopyinca 13 years ago
  
  Maybe if you read a bit more than just the headlines, you'd understand how pissed all of us are on here.
  
  But that might take too much energy or something.
  
  Retard.

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