Elizabeth Warren's DNC Speech Falls Flat
CHARLOTTE—Elizabeth Warren may not get a bounce in the polls back in the Commonwealth from her highly anticipated speech at the Democratic National Convention last night but she will probably fill her campaign coffers. Whether it was her nerves or her inability to work the largest crowd she has been presented with since starting her campaign, Warren mostly stumbled in her formal debut to national Democrats in a political setting.
Clad in her customary blue blazer, the Harvard Law professor delivered a speech that was part biographical, part stump speech, and part praise for President Obama. She weaved it together with points aimed as much at the Massachusetts audience that is still warming up to her as at the convention hall and those watching nationwide that love her more.
"For many years now, our middle class has been chipped, squeezed, and hammered. Talk to the construction worker I met from Malden, Massachusetts, who went nine months without finding work. Talk to the head of a manufacturing company in Franklin trying to protect jobs but worried about rising costs. Talk to the student in Worcester who worked hard to finish his college degree, and now he's drowning in debt. Their fight is my fight, and it's Barack Obama's fight too," she said
Like nearly every politician at both major party conventions this year, Warren talked about her childhood and growing up on the "ragged edge of the middle class," a phrase she has used nearly every day since she started campaigning.
"My daddy sold carpeting and ended up as a maintenance man. After he had a heart attack, my mom worked the phones at Sears so we could hang on to our house," she said.
Fast-forwarding to her time building the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Warren played up the efforts that made her a darling on the national liberal scene.
"After the financial crisis, President Obama knew that we had to clean up Wall Street. For years, families had been tricked by credit cards, fooled by student loans and cheated on mortgages. I had an idea for a consumer financial protection agency to stop the rip-offs. The big banks sure didn't like it, and they marshaled one of the biggest lobbying forces on earth to destroy the agency before it ever saw the light of day. American families didn't have an army of lobbyists on our side, but what we had was a president…"
"We had you!" yelled somebody in the upper deck, echoing across the arena.
When Warren initially walked across the stage she blew the doors off the building without even speaking but somehow failed to feed off the crowd that so desperately wanted her to inspire them to new heights. Warren slogged through her speech and limped flatly to what should have been a dramatic finish.
"Joe Biden is ready! Barack Obama is ready! I'm ready! You're ready! America's ready! Thank you! And God bless America!"
Warren's speech was an Us vs. Them argument even though her opponent, Sen. Scott Brown, is doing a better job of making it a non-partisan one-on-one contest. Indeed, Warren never mentioned Brown in her DNC speech. As a Republican, Brown has huge institutional disadvantages in Massachusetts that range from registration disparity to the stunning incompetency of the state party to organize at the hyperlocal level.
Rocketing to stardom after launching her campaign but struggling since, Warren has somehow managed to fail to meet expectations in a state that is overwhelmingly Democratic. Her enduring a scandal about her reported American Indian heritage and often being outmaneuvered by the Brown campaign has not helped her either.
Brown avoided the spotlight at his party's convention last week in Tampa, sticking to his campaign's game plan of avoiding even the word "Republican" at all costs.
Warren's stumbles probably didn't matter as much as they could have because former President Bill Clinton took the podium shortly after her and proceeded to deliver a stemwinder that may have even overshadowed the sitting president.
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Politicians need to stop this formulaic "X from [geographic location]" rhetorical trope. No one believes that these are real people. At best, they are "composites"; however, they are most likely fabrications.
Like my girlfriend in Toronto. Georgia glass.
talk to the prostitute working the streets, who went three hours without getting a john. Talk to the stripper trying to raise her son and not getting the tips she once did. Is this the kind of America we want to live in?
Even if they are all completely real people, so what? No one didn't think that there were at least four people in Mass. having a hard time economically.
This is where the Democrats differ from grown-ups. They focus on these single stories and actually use them to drive policy vs conservative/libertarian view of economics that realizes that you need to look at the aggregate.
This is also how we end up with programs that host tons of freeloading leeches - because the Lizzie Warrens of the world talked to some deserving soul and decided to build a massive program to fix that person's problem. Extrapolation is a dangerous thing.
This is also how we end up with programs that host tons of freeloading leeches - because the Lizzie Warrens of the world talked to some deserving soul and decided to build a massive program to fix that person's problem use that person's problem as an excuse to build a massive program.
FTFY.
Considering Warren grew up in Oklahoma, then worked in Cambridge(at Harvard), I'm sure well Warren was at Harvard she considered Needham an exurb. I'm shocked she's heard of Franklin, Malden, or Worcester.
I bet she's a bit red-faced after this article.
Why? She seemed prety brave.
Well this speech will be a real feather in her cap.
How
People might stop squawking about her.
True, she does little to curry their favor.
True, she does little to curry their favor.
That's my chief complaint with her.
[TWEET!] Fifteen yard penalty, Dot not Arrow. Repeat the down.
She's on the war path.
I hear the spirits failed to show up at the powwow afterwards.
I still have a reservation.
My entire tribe would vote for her.
Shorter Elizabeth "Fauxcohontas" Warren: "I will make sense no more forever."
You win the thread. Well done.
-jcr
OT: In this article, it's interesting to see the difference between how the Americans and the British respond to the same issue. The American groups place responsibility on the parents and admonish them to keep the detergent where small children cannot get it. The British groups blame the manufacturers and call for warning labels and childproof packaging.
Just wait until the CPSC or some other agency gets involved. They'll be pushing childproof packaging too.
"... former President Bill Clinton took the podium shortly after her and proceeded to deliver a stemwinder that may have even overshadowed the sitting president."
"We Democrats think the country works better with a strong middle class, real opportunities for poor people to work their way into it and a relentless focus on the future, with business and government working together to promote growth and broadly shared prosperity. We think 'we're all in this together' is a better philosophy than 'you're on your own.'" - Bill Clinton
Fuck Bill Clinton and any libertarian that fawns over him.
I like how they all cheer him for advocating the crony capitalism that got us where we are today.
Considering that maybe 0.5% of the population could grasp the irony here, it's amazing things aren't even worse.
I think there was a word for that. Facetious? Facsimile? Something like that.
Fast and Furious?
Forward.
. . . over the cliff (doesn't anybody else think that when they hear this stupid slogan?)
Fastidious?
Bill Clinton's head: "Hey, Sugar cookie! You know, technically nothing I can do counts as sexual harassment anymore."
with business and government working together to promote growth and broadly shared prosperity.
He did originally call his plans the third way.
A European socialist phrase so old Clinton had to wipe the shit of a mammoth off of it before he could pass it along.
Maybe it is because Warren is a race hustling idiot who managed to become a Harvard professor by pretending to be an Indian rather than by being smart? Just a thought.
In the good old days professors lied about their credentials, not their heritage.
She really got there based on good old fashioned nepotism. Her second husband is a senior Professor at Harvard who helped get her the gig there.
She is the very epitome of a modern liberal - a limo riding, victim claiming, race hustling, privilege seeking, fun-killing, nanny-statist. It's like they created her in a lab.
"She is the very epitome of a modern liberal - a limo riding, victim claiming, race hustling, privilege seeking, fun-killing, nanny-statist. It's like they created her in a lab."
There's an HMS Pinafore spoof in this somewhere.
Credentials don't matter anymore, hence the shift.
It interesting how so many in our political class grew up dirt poor, yet managed to go on and have successful careers. It's pretty shocking, because if they were poor, why weren't they prevented from having an opportunity at success, just like all of the other poor people who are held down by society?
That is a great point. It is almost as if they pulled the ladder up behind them or something.
It's a valid point, but only if you're one to subscribe to the theory that being a politician qualifies as being successful. By that yard stick, your common thief is successful too.
If the theif manages to get wealthy without ever going to jail, then yeah, he's pretty successful. Just like a politician.
"My daddy sold carpeting and ended up as a maintenance man. After he had a heart attack, my mom worked the phones at Sears so we could hang on to our house," she said.
Her parents had to work for a living?
Oh my God, how humiliating!
How did they cope?
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what passes for connecting with the middle class in Limousine Lizzy's world.
We're supposed to feel sorry for people--because they have to work?
My thoughts exactly. I'm so tired of politicians talking about their families working like it makes them special.
One of the reasonoids--Lucy Steigerwald, I think--mentioned on twitter that she was glad she didn't have "middle class" as a word during a convention drinking game. I, on the other hand, took it as an excellent suggestion and ran with it. The whole thing was a lot more fun at that point.
I'm impressed you're not in a coma.
Yeah...but Joe must have one hell of a hangover.
It would also appear that by working, her parents provided a better opportunity for their children. Either that, or they were eligible for some magic, success infusing government program, that turns ordinary people into extraordinary people.
"Either that, or they were eligible for some magic, success infusing government program, that turns ordinary people into extraordinary people."
Apparently that consists of transforming yourself into 1/32 of a native American.
Those set asides were put in place to help people Native Americans who have suffered from discrimination.
Elizabeth Warren hasn't suffered for being mistaken for a Native American any more than she's suffered for being mistaken for an African-American.
She callously exploited a program meant to help the truly disadvantaged who have suffered from discrimination--just to enrich herself. And, yes, the way she did it?
That means she necessarily deprived some Native American somewhere--who really has suffered from discrimination--of an opportunity he or she never would have had otherwise. All because of Elizabeth Warren's greed.
She should be ashamed of her disgusting behavior.
She should be ashamed of her disgusting behavior.
I doubt she even has a sense of shame.
Apparently that consists of transforming yourself into 1/32 of a native American.
And just for the record, among the people who aren't yet entirely convinced of her claim to being 1/32 Cherokee?
Are all the Native Americans who traveled to the convention specifically to speak with Elizabeth Warren about her claims of ancestry.
And she refuses to meet with them!
http://tinyurl.com/9b38uq2
CHARLOTTE, N.C. ? Elizabeth Warren can't escape her Cherokee heritage controversy even at this gathering of loyal Democrats, as a contingent of skeptical American Indian delegates ? including the great-grandson of Geronimo ? are inviting Warren to a meeting tomorrow to explain her ancestry claims.
I think she owes us that, she owes the Native American community here at least that," said Stephen Lewis, a member of the Gila River Indian community. "That would go a long way in dispelling that question."
...
"If you are native, there is no doubt, and if one has to research to try and ascertain if they are Native American, I would have great concerns with that and I think naturally I would just wonder if that was a vehicle she would want to use to her benefit," said Frank LeMere, an American Indian activist of the Nebraska Winnebago Tribe. "If that is the case, shame on her."
There's a lot more where that came from. I encourage you to read the article. Read what Native Americans are saying about Elizabeth Warren's claims.
And then explain why she has consistently refused to meet with Native American delegations that have requested meetings with her to discuss her claims.
Jesus, the least she could do is meet with them!
Her mother had to work for Sears--just to make the house payment...
And you, you sit there, in the face of all that suffering, like there's nothing wrong with that?
How dare you?!
Shit, I have to work to make house payments too. I didn't even know I was struggling.
You have to work for a living?!
Oh, Geez, I'm so sorry.
Is there like a Red Cross station near where you live or something?
Maybe we should get the UN or some other humanitarian relief agency involved!
In Elizabeth Warren's world, I guess she thinks the guy that drives her limousine is doing it just...because he likes her?
In Liz Warren's world, everything that benefits her is for the greater good, because she is so noble and enlightened and fights for all the little people.
We're supposed to feel sorry for people--because they have to work?
And succeed - "my mom worked the phones at Sears so we could hang on to our house"
It would have been so much better if they would have been foreclosed, gotten section 8 housing and food stamps.
Exactly. Show me the hordes of Democrat politicians who were only fortunate enough to succeed because of social welfare programs.
When Brown beats her fake White Indian ass, the left will of course say that she was a "bad candidate". Never mind the fact that the extreme left has thought of her as their ideal candidate for the last couple of years now.
She was their great hope. The next Obama. I am sure she won't mind being thrown overboard for the cause.
She won't have a choice. When they get their way, no one does.
John| 9.6.12 @ 8:46AM |#
"She was their great hope."
Turns out she was their great *white* hope.
Great 31/32 white hope.
It's by no means clear that Brown will beat her, but if LearJet Lizzy the Limousine Liberal does manage to beat Brown?
It'll be because of all the money she's managed to raise from Hollywood. More than half the money she's raised has come from out of state.
That's why she's so dangerous. Unlike most candidates, she's running for the Senate with national ambitions already--and her fundraising machine already has a national reach.
Those liberals in Hollywood aren't giving her all that money because they want to influence policy in Massachusetts. They're giving her all that money because they want her to run for national office.
The Democrats didn't give her a national stage because they want her to win in Massachusetts. They want her to be a household name all over the country--so that when she runs for president...
If she runs for President, Todd Akin could beat her.
Elections are like a box of chocolates.
It depends on where the economy is at the moment.
If she can win the Democratic nomination, she could win the election.
Hell, I remember when Hillary Clinton was irredeemable. And if she had come out against the Iraq War like Obama did, she'd be the president right now, and he'd be the head of Housing and Urban Development or something.
"When Brown beats her fake White Indian ass, the left will of course say that she was a "bad candidate"."
NONSENSE. She's everything they've ever wanted, from, her authoritarian delusions of social contracts to her abuse of race-based entitlement programs for her own benefit.
They'll do what they always do when she loses; they'll pretend the other side only won because of TEH CORPRATE MONIEZ!!!11. Hell, they've been testing that water since she first threw her hat into the race.
I'm sure our resident 'progressive' sockpuppets were enraptured, scarring their puds with overuse.
Hyperion made a great point last night. It is one thing to be pro choice, many people are. But even to someone who is pro choice, the outright celebration of abortion last night was really creepy
Funny thing about "pro-choice" in that it never extends to choice about schools, joining unions, or what people put into their bodies.
Those choices should be made by authoritah.
You can only choose to have gay sex and to get an abortion. Everything else is above your pay grade.
Why would someone who has gay sex need an abortion?
I don't know. Ask the DNC
Or Sandra Fluke.
After the first two nights of the convention, it is no longer gay marriage and abortion. The issues have morphed into one cause, gay marriage abortion. This time it a sacrament!
It's worse than that. Choice for me but not for thee. I used to argue with my ex all the time about school choice. We both went to private schools yet she she thought everyone else would be better off in public school.
The cognitive dissonance of the left (and the right for that matter) never ceases to amaze.
That is what I hate about the Left and pretty much all of our elites most of all. The puritans of the past at least believed in and practiced what they preached to everyone else. No one ever caught Cotton Mather wife swapping or Carry Nation taking a belt of Jack Daniels.
Now they don't even pretend to live by the rules that they want to force down our throat. Whether it is school choice or global warming or taxes or anything, they all live one way but then tell the rest of us we need to sacrifice.
John, c'mon - rules are for the little people!
They view dishonesty as a virtue.
Yeah, as someone who generally actually is pro-choice on most matters, I hate the use of pro-choice by these people. I try to make a point of saying that I am pro-legal-abortion when that is what I mean.
BTW the Alt-text is probably true, since EVERYONE wants to punch Ordway in the mouth. If Warren said that, even I would vote for her.
only problem with punching Ordway in the mouth is that he might try to eat your fist....
For years, families had been tricked by credit cards, fooled by student loans and cheated on mortgages.
Oh, those tricksy, tricksy credit cardses...yes, precioussss....
Funny, my credit card has never tricked me once; it just stays in my wallet until I need it.
She basically said most Americans are too stupid to read and comprehend contracts that they voluntarily enter into. How fucked up do you have to be cheer for someone who calls you an idiot to your face?
Forest Gumpian stupid?
At least Gump had common sense.
New meme at work: Second-hand stupid
Sam Dawson (I Am Sam) stupid?
CORPORATUNSZ!
Isn't that basically the entire leftist philosophy? "You're too stupid to look out for yourselves, therefore we must protect you from the consequences of your own choices."
But somehow when you get a job as a government regulator, you magically become smart enough to rule the world.
Top. Men.
the Philosopher Kings will rule us all with their magic wisdom. And the world keeps on spinning with all the old ideas becoming 'new' again. I weep.
Shit, even Plato figured out that that would never really work.
If only we had some kind of Dictatorship of the Proletariat . . .
/"We're on the ROOOOOOOAD to serfdom"/
But if government owned all of the houses, and just allowed everyone to live in them for free, then no one would have to bother with silly things such as "reading" and "comprehension'.
She basically said most Americans are too stupid to read and comprehend contracts that they voluntarily enter into.
There is only one contract that matters. The one that you voluntarily enter into when you commit the non-act of not making a decision to move to another country.
The Social Contract.
No other contracts matter.
Someone who makes a mid range six figure salary from one of the world's most expensive colleges and a price setter for elite education has the nerve to complain about student loans.
Someone who has no hesitation in piling insurance mandates, regulations, unions, EEOC, ADA, taxes, and any number of headwinds on businesses has the nerve to complain about rising costs for businesses.
Don't forget the "right" not to have your employer make your birth control decisions for you. Barf.
I feel like the Democrats set out to immediately and forcefully show that they can be even more barf inducing than the Republicans.
I think you mean the "right" not to have your employer make decisions about which of your birth control decisions they will pay for.
Considering her history of foreclosure purchases and flips, she just might want to stay away from the ol' "cheated on mortgages" thingie.
People tricked themselves into thinking credit cards provided limitless cash, cheated themselves with mortgages that they couldn't afford, and fooled themselves that $60k in loan debt was a fair trade for a throwaway degree.
Fuck them, and fuck Liz Warren.
And of course those rising costs have nothing to do with leftist policy, right? I mean, regulatory burdens don't cost anything, right? Evermore tax burdens are free, right?
Intentions!
Regulations are not intended to raise costs on businesses, so saying that they do is attacking the good intentions of the regulators!
How dare you attack their good intentions!
What kind of a monster are you?!?
Sadly, many people actually think like this. The regulations would be fine if it wasn't for the evil corporations passing on costs and gouging consumers and cheating workers to maintain their profit margins!
Exactly. Regulatory costs aren't intended to raise prices or lower wages. I mean, these people are already rich, right? Why do they need all those filthy profits? That's where the regulatory costs should fall. On profits.
Filthy capitalist scum.
I await the Sandra Fluke speech analysis.
Fluck Fluke. With John's dick.
Of come on sarcasmic. A good revenge fuck might do her some good. Get her to look a little less butt hurt for a while.
Or more butt hurt.
Butt hurt is good. You don't need the pill.
There's the answer. Start teaching buttsex early in public schools and the contraception problem solves itself.
Make sure you bring the condom.
If we can't have birth control provided for us free of charge, we may as well just commence with the next holocaust because we will have shown ourselves to be no better than Hitler's nazis.
I didn't watch any of the convention--don't give a shit what they say--but I did see Warren and Fluke speaking as I surfed by a few times last night. Are those really the faces the national party wants to present? Because I think neither appeals to Americans in general at all.
You should have been watching the NFL opener. Americans in general find that appealing.
I was playing Sniper Elite: V2 and blasting Gerrys. Nothing is quite so satisfying as watching, in slow motion, a projectile pass through the ear hole of a nazi who's just sitting there not expecting anything at all.
Strategically taking out an entire patrol from afar is fucking cathartic.
During the game there was an ad for a new Assassin's Creed set in the Revolutionary War. I've never played any AC, but holy crap that commercial made me want to.
I prefer to call in air power or artillery, in meat space that is. 🙂
I watched some of it, though I was weirded out by football on Wednesday. And, of course, I don't care for either team, particularly the one that won.
I hate the NFL for caving to the DNC.
And yet it's still fun to watch. Part of the reason football is so much better than the other major sports. As always I was glad to see a Manning lose.
I'm not thrilled with the current state of the NFL, being a defense guy and all, but I'm sure the trend towards no defense will end at some point.
If we keep these replacement refs, who seem to be swallowing their whistles, it should help the defense.
Which is only just, as the rules favoring offense--especially receivers--are absurd. If I want to watch Arena football, I'll watch Arena football.
Those were the rules I was thinking of. I'd also like if they called less roughing the passer, but I bet the replacement refs would actually be extra tough on that.
As an Eagles fan and a resident of Massachusetts, the Giants and Cowboys are much easier to take than Elizabeth Warren.
Three NFC East teams were in action last night - Cowboys, Giants and Redskins.
"For years, families had been tricked by credit cards,...". Um, how are people "tricked by credit cards"? They send you a bill EVERY month! If people are to dumb to open the letter labeled BILLING, then I have no sympathy for them. "fooled by student loans..." I don't know the statistics, but a very large amount of student loans are held by state governments, moreover, Federal Grants have massively inflated the cost of a college education. So the right hand of government is giving out student loans, and the left hand is supposed to stop it? "..and cheated on mortgages.", people got to live in a house they normally couldn't afford for years, and that is cheated? Senator Brown isn't perfect, but he's a whole lot better than this statist airhead.
She just can't summon the courage to criticize the middle class for enabling those credit card and lending companies by running up 4,5 credit card bills and taking on a huge amount of loans to attend a diploma mill.
Of course, if we were really fooled, then the question is whether the government should tighten lending standards and increase penalties and collateral to discourage predatory lending practices. But we all know a world in which only qualified individuals with enough money can borrow money is racist.
DNC was disappointed she wasn't the straight arrow they needed to put a tomahawk right through Romney's campaign.
Good Germans like Liz are the timber from which totalitarian states are built. She sincerely believes that we are all too stupid to look out for ourselves, and that if left to our own devices without government monitors to watch over us, we would do nothing all day but lie around in our own filth sending money to Nigerian princes.
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OMG, check out the comments:
http://www.bostonherald.com/ne....._to_fight/
I counted exactly ONE poster who didn't linguistically nutkick either the writer/shill or Fauxcahontas herself.
I think Lizzy may have a real problem here.