Denialist Democrats
The party of government refuses to even entertain the possibility that we can no longer afford it
CHARLOTTE—What was your favorite unintentionally revealing moment of Tuesday night's kickoff of the Democratic National Convention? Was it the welcome-to-Charlotte video whose narrator let slip that "government is the only thing that we all belong to"? Perhaps Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn's exhortation to "make the will of the people the law of the land"? Or former Ohio gov. Ted Strickland's thunderous, populist twaddle about "economic patriotism"?
All of these were fun, but for me the biggest direct reveal of how current Democratic rhetoric leads to bad public policy was one of the evening's honorary former Republicans, Cincinnati firefighter Doug Stern. "The Republican Party left people like me," Stern complained. "Somewhere along the way, being a public employee—someone who works for my community—made me a scapegoat for the GOP. Thank goodness we have leaders like President Obama and Vice President Biden who still believe that public service is an honorable calling."
It was classic major-party Manicheasm: Eastasians do bad things for the simple reason that their hearts are bad; Eurasians' hearts are good, so they don't do bad things.
In this idyllic landscape of Democratic magical thinking, there is no state and local budget crises, no unaffordable and underfunded defined-benefit public pension obligations, nothing at all standing in the way of "investing" in our public safety, except (in ex-Republican Stern's words) "right-wing extremists." Vallejo, California is not bankrupt because of public employee pensions, and the rest of the state is not following suit. It's a hell of a place, this Democrat-land. Wish I could live there.
Last night's speeches were notable less for what they contained and more for what they did not: any engagement with the issue of having a debt load (of $16 trillion) that is now larger than GDP, of having a long-forecasted entitlement time bomb marching northward toward 100 percent of federal spending, of having underfunded obligations in the trillions of dollars promised by politicians addicted to handing out "free" benefits.
"If you want to get America back to work, you don't fire cops, teachers, nurses and firefighters. You invest in them," said Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.). It really is that simple. Keynote speaker and mayor of San Antonio Julian Castro offered a similarly basic formula: Spend Invest more money on education, and education will improve. It's worked so well up to now.
"We have to come together and invest in opportunity today for prosperity tomorrow," Castro said, in a speech long on policy banality. "We know that you can't be pro-business unless you're pro-education." And we know that you can't be "pro-education" unless your idea of education policy involves spending more money on it.
Virginia Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley summed up this worldview succinctly, in a question to Republican nominees Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan: "How much less, do you really think, would be good for our country? How much less education would be good for our children?" When you are unbounded by spending restraints, government budgets can be boiled down to a simple question: How much, at long last, do you care?
What makes last night's fiscal denialism even more appalling was that many of the speakers themselves have had to fight tooth and nail with public sector unions over compensation and work rules. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel outraged police and fire unions by tackling pension reform and pointing out that "city government is not an employment agency." Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, a former labor leader, has called teachers unions an "unwavering roadblock to reform." Newark Mayor Cory Booker has been there as well. Needless to say, such talk was absent from the podium last night.
One of the great ironies of this convention already is that speaker after speaker denounces Republicans for being unable to tell the truth or get their facts straight. Meanwhile, one of the most important truths of modern governance—we are well and truly out of money—sits neglected in the corner. This might be a great way to rally the Democratic base, but it's thin gruel for the majority of Americans who think, correctly, that the nation's finances have spun out of control.
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Yeah, that "government is the only thing we all belong to" is straight up Gaetano Mosca Mussolini-speak.
I wish I could say I surprised to hear it.
So if government is of, by and for the people, and we belong to it, then we belong to people.
Dibs on that fat redheaded chick from Mad Men.
Dibs on that fat redheaded chick from Mad Men.
All your boob are belong to us.
It belongs to everyone. You only get 1/370,000,000th of her boobs.
Can I take 2/740,000,000th instead.
1/370,000,000th of her boobs
In other words, one regulation sized boob.
At my age, I'll take what I can get.
why yes they will...
California is not bankrupt because of public employee pensions
For those of you wanting Obama relected so Dems own the results, the GOP can't get someone elected dogcatcher in CA, yet they're still to blame for all of CA's problems because Reagan was governor at one point and they passed Prop 13 in the 70s.
Don't forget Arch-Republican and senile crazy man Clint Eastwood, former mayor of Carmel.
Blamed by whom?
Virginia Gov. Martin O'Malley
My turn to be pedantic: O'Malley is the governor of Maryland.
I thought he was governor of Delmarva.
Living in Maryland, I wish he was governor of another state.
Swap straight across for Brown?
"Virginia Gov. Martin O'Malley..."
Robert McDonnell will be surprised to hear this. Damn 3 syllable surnames got us all confused.
government is the only thing that we all belong to
All your peoples are belonging to us.
make the will of the people the law of the land
For your clothes,
Here's a pretty flower
the will of the people - now there's a phrase that fills me with horror.
Those witches must be burnt.
They won't burn themselves, you know.
The Democrats never really lost their love for Jim Crow, did they?
It's too bad that Jello Biafra is a heavy Bush Derangement Syndrome sufferer and hasn't put out anything nearly that good/insightful in ages.
my favorite part was Newark's Cory Booker connecting taxes to patriotism with the "fair share" meme. Hey, you don't suppose he meant that it's time for the freeloaders to start ponying up, do you?
I don't like taxes, either, but if we're going to have a tax system, everyone needs to have skin in the game.
My "fair share" is apparently higher than what I already pay, half of the country's "fair share" is $0 or a welfare refund. Fuck that.
The elderly, who receive the large majority of the largesse, should pony up the most then.
From each according to their ability or something right?
the elderly already ponied up on their way to becoming elderly, but why let reality get in the face of talking point.
Some did. Some are just continuing the free ride.
the elderly already ponied up on their way to becoming elderly, but why let reality get in the face of talking point.
They ponied up partly on their way to becoming elderly. Otherwise, we would not have a huge amount of government debt.
right Ptah,
our problem as a country is taht people were not taxed enough. It has nothing to do with govt spending without conscience.
right Ptah,
our problem as a country is taht people were not taxed enough. It has nothing to do with govt spending without conscience.
Actually, that was my point (albet not clearly stated). They spent like drunken sailors and did not pay for the spending. Spending is the problem. Always has been, always will be.
Being forced to pay more in taxes = patriotic? Really!
So if I'm forced at gun point to give thousands of dollars to a non-profit org, does that make me more charitable?
The cognitive dissonance is shocking!
King George's problem was bad press. A couple of modern statists wold have lubed up the colonists nice. Once the big government guys were done, George could have slid in stamp and tea taxes without even a whimper.
If you take the mortgage deduction, you'll be hanged for treason.
"fair share"
They keep using that word, I do not think it means what they think it means.
Ooo, I wouldn't want to be Doug Stern when the media start digging through his trash. I hope your firefighter's license is up to date, Dougie boy.
Uh, I think being an Obama supporter basically puts him off limits to the media, nest-ce pas?
"government is the only thing that we all belong to"
I remember a conversation I had with some lefty retard on the subject. I said I belong to society, not government. He says he's glad I don't vote. I said that I do vote. He said that that makes me part of government. I said that I'm not a government employee, so I'm not part of government. He thanked me for not voting. I asked if a government employee didn't vote, would that person no longer be part of government. He sputtered a bit and walked away. Some people are so stupid they don't even know that they're stupid.
You comply with our governing social contract (the Constitution) therefore you are part of the government.
That is industrial strength stupid.
par for course, eh?
We are by design a self-governing republic whether you like it or not.
not much of a republic these days, eh? More of a crony-capitalist banana republic. And the phrase whether you like it or not speaks volumes.
That's how fascists like shrike think, Lord H. Which also explains why a supposed Barry Goldwater fan will wind up voting for Obama two terms in a row.
And if I move away, I get to keep paying the membership fee, though, right?
this can't be the usual PB. That statement is especially moronic.
This is what I found so retarded about that statement. Why use "government" rather than "United States" or some such? It makes Republican shenanigans w.r.t. who delegates could vote for look intelligent.
You comply with our governing social contract (the Constitution) therefore you are part of the government.
Now if we could only get the fucking government to comply with that document.
We threw slavery out of our social compact in 1865. Try to bring it back and we'll shoot you and the rest of the Copperheads.
Now, now, sarcasmic, what they've always meant is that you belong to the government, as in you're it's property.
How much less education would be good for our children?
Public education? A lot.
"How much less (Federal funds and control of) education would be good for our children?"
How about all...
I find it funny, no sad, that Democrats talk about Republicans, and their secret codes and dog whistles, yet when they say someting blatently, obiously screwed up, no one seems to batt an eye.
it's because the "no one" you reference speaks the same Dem language, so nothing sounds off kilter. When those evil Repubs talk about non-Dem things, it's like being a foreigner for the no-ones.
"no-one's" = media, including the supposedly shockingly right wing Fox news.
Eh, no big deal. That's just Joe Democrats being Joe Democrats.
"...make the will of the people the law of the land"
Yes! I propose a new republic! A "People's Republic"! I also volunteer to run this republic! For the People!
They should invite Tom Tuttle to speak at the convention.
They want to build new Peoples' bridges for the brand new (hybrid) peoples truck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3F8maW0pKI
1:14-1:26, funny thing but it sounds like he's talking about democrats and he's supposed to be a commie!
It's a hell of a place, this Democrat-land. Wish I could live there.
Careful what you wish for, Matt ....
This article by Yuval Levin was pretty interesting on conservative vs liberal vision of government: http://www.nationalreview.com/.....uval-levin
We do. Even when the Republicans are in power.
Well you're in denial that we can afford Bush-era tax rates or continued contraction in the public sector.
You may be right about the tax rates. Time for the freeloaders to start ponying up. Fair share and all.
And we'll be just fine with less public sector. How many bureaucrats and administrators do school systems need.
Tony hasn't quite figured out yet that this is inevitable, no matter how much money you take from "the rich."
http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.....12-10.html
Supposed college graduate can't figure out we could cut spending instead of raising taxes. Poor college graduate.
We can't afford to continue to cut economically unproductive jobs supported by taxpayers?
Oh there are plenty of such high-paying jobs on Wall Street we could do without. Teachers and firefighters seem to fit any definition of economically productive...
What's your evidence of this statement?
I'm all for investing, so long as I can see a return. I don't see the marginal return on most public employees being particularly good these days. Can you cite?
What do teachers do aside from committing statutory rape?
So we should do away with private sector jobs where people get paid based on a freely contracted agreement with their employer because the employer doesn't know how to productively use his capital, but we should spend more money hiring teachers and firefighters in the absence of a functional market or price mechanism to tell us when to stop or how much value we get for our money.
Not much of a bumper sticker, but it would make the perfect Team Blue campaign slogan.
T o n y| 9.5.12 @ 9:46AM |#
"Well you're in denial that we can afford Bush-era tax rates or continued contraction in the public sector."
Shithead parsed:
'We can't afford less income and less expenses!'
This from the supposed PBK.
So glad I didn't watch any of that twaddle. In the sage words of barfman:
*barf*
And gee I wonder what made the deficit so large.
I'm sure going from $2.5 trillion to $3.5 trillion in spending had nothing to do with it at all.
If Tony were intellectually honest, he'd at least blame Obama for part of the deficit mess. But he won't.
Mr. FIFY| 9.5.12 @ 11:08AM |#
"If Tony were intellectually honest,..."
He wouldn't be shithead.
That's true.
Lololololol. Bush gets all of Iraq and Afghanistan? It's been four fucking years and Obama has had numerous opportunities to draw down - hasn't happened. He should get a few hundred billion there.
Look! I can cherry pick articles too!
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/25/.....sh-on-debt
That said, I'm not defending Bush. Responsibility does not change based on whether one has a D or an R attached to their name. But to claim that Obama's policy have had any positive effect on this country's fiscal situation is absolutely ludicrous.
Don't forget to attribute the entire TARP program, half of which was spent by the Obama administration, and also the $787B stimulus, signed into law by Obama, and for which Obama takes credit for saving the country from sure annihilation, but for which all of the responsibility belongs to Bush because it took place during the remainder of his last fiscal year.
Tony logic.
LBJ is a fine culprit.
"The Republican Party left people like me," Stern complained. "Somewhere along the way, being a public employee?someone who works for my community?made me a scapegoat for the GOP.
Its not you doug...
... its your goddamn pension-managing bureaucrat who fucked everyone else in the ass so you could play happy community-slave with a smile on your face knowing you could retire in your 50s on the public tit.
I'm gonna go ahead and say this. Fuck you too, Doug, for being the bastard who was just fine with retiring in your 50s on the public tit. You'll find no sympathy from me when your largesse drains the public union pension plans and there's no tit left to suck from.
Hear hear!
I hope everyone else gets a good laugh at the "stop the Koch brothers!" political ads popping up on the site.
I just enjoy knowing that they help pay for it all. It gives a warm fuzzy.
it's thin gruel for the majority of Americans who think, correctly, that the nation's finances have spun out of control.
Government to Citizens: We don't pay you to think
Matt Yglesias on Twitter:" 'we are well and truly out of money'has to be the biggest public policy myth around"
Depends on his definition. The government hasn't confiscated ol' Warren's pile yet.
Yeah, I assume he's probably in favour of loosening the money supply as well.
When they do, it'll keep Leviathan running for, what, 4-5 days?
In this he is correct.
I suspect he means " there is plenty more to tax" when the reality is " the revenues are sky high they have all they need for any sane definition of "reasonable" govt expenditures".
Those fucking kulak hoarders are still holding out on grain somewhere, I just know it!
Didn't we cross the $16,000,000,000,000 debt thresh-hold sometime last night? You wouldn't know it from all the spending investing the Democrats want to do.
"You wouldn't know it from all the [...] investing the Democrats want to do."
Yeah, I like the part about investing in firefighters. Those puppies are going to be worth a *ton*!
Better get 'em while they're cheap.
Thank goodness we have leaders like President Obama and Vice President Biden who still believe that public service is an honorable calling.
Yesterday I looked up the annual income stats for my profession. It turns out that my exact job would pay 213% of what I earn now if I worked at the state or federal levels instead of in the private sector. So please pardon me if your half-assed attempt at courting sympathy rings completely tone deaf and hollow to me, you fucking asshole.
What is your profession? I'd think you would want to be for Dems so you could work for Big Govt and be paid 2.13 times as much for the same job.
A bit OT but I saw this gem on FB.
Soak in the cognitive dissonance.
I thought spending was an inherent good.
Matt Welch needs to read the Bible. You know, the part about motes and beams -- Matthew 7:3 "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"
Welch seems to hate lies and half-truths... unless they are uttered by Republicans. Even the GOP's best friend and lap dog, Fox News, couldn't keep from reporting Paul Ryan's willful ignorance of facts: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion.....ree-words/
The real question is not whether the Democrats are flawed -- they are. The real question is whether America is better off when the Republicans are in the White House -- we aren't.
jp52556 appears to be rather unfamiliar with Matt Welch, and everything he has said or written.
DemocraticUnderground is that way
Still plenty of good spots on the Obama peen left for slobbering.
I think your article about summed it up. I tried listening to the convention last night but I'm done.
I know you are not a Romney fan, or a republican Matt. But thank you for being an honest journalist - a dying breed.
@jp52556 - The funny thing is that liberals keep pointing to that Fox news piece as proof that even Fox says Ryan is lying. But Sally Kohn is a house lib at Fox - probably to the left of any of the clowns on stage last night. She really doesn't count.
Teachers are the best aren't they?
They get this whole circle jerk of unions funding democrats, which in turn fund unions, started...
I grew up mostly in Vallejo and live there now. And I can tell you, even the leftists want pension reform. We came out of bankruptcy...and our unfunded liabilities are now larger. We have NO BUDGET for road repair and the entire place is like a dangerous condition on public property. Then there's the shootings. My sister lives in Baltimore, and said she's never heard the regular barrage of gun shots on Greenmount Ave that one hears nightly in downtown Vallejo. We just got rid of our ex Oakland police Chief, Nichelini. He's an old school union hustler. The times they are a changin'
Now, if we can only get rid of the "Bag Hag" twins in Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein. If we can only get rid of the hag, Nancy Pelosi. Clean the room out with Governor Moon Beam, Jerry "Tax'em at all costs" Brown.
I don't like taxes, either, but if we're going to have a tax system, everyone needs to have skin in the game.
"I don't like being raped, either, but if we're going to have a government rape system, everyone needs to get at least a little raped."
Not sure who, but on WFAE's convention coverage I heard a Democrat from Virginia say regarding the election that the all that military in Virginia was likely to vote for Obama because, hey, after all they had taken an oath of loyalty to the president.
That oath is to support and defend the constitution, stupid, and to obey the lawful orders of the president.
I wish there was a cite for this.
Democrat needs to inhale more grape-flavored Kool Aid. Military people are not mindless minions for Obama. Think it's actually the other way around.
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All people will remember from this convention is: His wife told him that she loves him, Uncle Bubba told him that he likes him, and Barry himself had to move to a smaller place because people dont seem to like him so much anymore.
Plus, the Democrats removed "God" from their platform and recognizing Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel. They took a vote three times and still didn't get their 2/3 majority but passed it anyway, disenfranchising a majority of the people in the convention.
You're telling me that more money in education means higher grades?
I didn't know it was all so simple. In that case we should probably quadruple the budget every year, or maybe even every quarter. Imagine how smart we could all be then!
Then we can take some more money to cover those expensive medical programs. That way everyone would always be healthy and they wouldn't even have to do anything. When you get sick you just go under the knife and take some pills. Amazing.
To finish it off we can through trillions more at the energy sector to create sustainable energy sources that run of wind and good intentions.
I didn't know that money equaled results without any control. What a wonderful world it will be.
Matt, It strikes me that the Democrats are much better grounded in reality than the Republicans, who want to increase defense spending, extend tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, AND balance the budget. They avoid detailed discussion of how they are going to do all these things -- because they cannot be done without making cuts that would hurt people on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. In the abstract, "benefits" can be made to sound morally corrupting, addictive, enslaving. In practice, the three programs that I have named enable people to get things that are essential to their well being, and these "benefits" could not have been offered as securely and efficiently unless we, as a people, had not pooled our resources to make it happen. The libertarian dream of an almost government free society strikes me as essentially the same as the Marxists' utopian fantasy of the time when "the state will have withered" away -- Eden before the regrettable apple-tasting. The apple will remain forever bitten, and realistic thinking about public policy needs to begin with that realization.
A decrease in the rate of increase is all they ask. How about we went back to the Clinton budget of $1.6 trillion in 1996 vs OweBlameA's $3.7 trillion(which did not receive a single vote of support in either the House or the Senate).
Were we so bad off in 1996? Were people starving in the streets and dying for lack of medical care. I think not.
CebVa, Currently, millions of Americans are going with health care because they can't get health insurance. This means that they aren't getting Pap smears, mammograms, or prostate exams, and are getting treatment for diabetes, high blood pressure, and a host of other conditions. Do you think that this isn't leading to thousands of preventable deaths? We just buried a friend, a delightful 32 year old woman, who hadn't been getting Pap smears because she had either been out of work or working part time without benefits, none of which was her fault. When her cervical cancer was detected, it was far too late to do anything about it. The Affordable Care Act will go a long way toward saving the lives of people like our friend.
Bull shit... just about every county in the country has county run medical clinics, not to mention Planned Parenthood, that offers low cost if not free paps to every woman who goes to them. Nice try at forwarding the meme that healthcare is not accessible unless you have insurance.
Of course they are in denial. The administration can twist the rhetoric and numbers all it wants. The unemployed and underemployed, the barely employed and the wondering-how-much-longer-they-will-be employed all know who they are. The employers who see their businesses shrinking because no one has money to spend and the small businesses getting smaller while their taxes go up all worry about the future. The family that lost a home and is now living with relatives know the heartbreak. The once-proud worker, now dependent on food stamps, knows the embarrassment. The families of all of the above see the devastation. No one should be fooled by phony numbers and truth-deniers.
It is not about numbers. It is very personal and tragic and avoidable if only we could get rid of the anti-business, anti-energy, job-destroying OweBlameA regime. The recovery will begin 30 seconds after he gives his concession speech.
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