Scott Walker Hails the Rise of Libertarian-Leaning Governors
TAMPA – Even though Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is one of the most controversial Republicans in the country, he was still given a prominent speaking slot at the Republican National Convention Tuesday. Walker's victory in a hotly contested June recall election secured his position as one of the leading governors in the country when it comes to public sector labor reforms. Walker says he sees a growing class of libertarian governors across the country.
"You see several governors out there who not only have a libertarian view but a federalism view of government, the power of the Tenth Amendment," he said. "They have a view that when you invoke the Tenth it's not just about the rights but also of the people, and that's a part that's often left out."
With the convention focusing on young Republican governors, Walker forsees a decentralization from Washington, D.C., to statehouses.
"I think that you're going to see more of an effort to push power away from the federal government not only to the states but more directly to the people," he said.
How should limited-government enthusiasts vote for president in November? Walker discouraged talk of supporting Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson, or any other third party candidate.
"If you're someone who cares about ObamaCare, if you think like I think, that it's an abomination, and if we don't fix it now it could be there for the rest of our lives, to me you gotta say, 'if you vote for anybody else on this issue you're essentially castsing a vote for that to continue.' That to me is pretty compelling reason for why people should give second thoughts to voting for anybody else like Gary Johnson, even if it's a principled vote just to send a message. That's how dangerous it is when it comes to Obamacare."
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OT: Any of you guys responsible for the 8 OPD car strong response to a pamphleteer at College and Old Grove yesterday?
Yeah, I called the cops and said some guy was flashing cars driven by young women. Pamphleteers belong in the eighteenth century.
Oceanside? Not surprising. They send half the fucking PD to navy/marine drunk fights.
Trying to influence how people vote while not suckling at the govt. teat. That's illegal, isn't it?
I would rather not vote than vote for Romney.
Because you love Obamacare?
What, are we supposed to believe that Romney would do anything to end it?
-jcr
Exactly. He says Romneycare is so much better than Obamacare. He would make some minor changes, get 80% of congress to vote for it and the MSM and the Dems would say he gutted it, old people were dying in the streets and when it has problems in 5, 10, and 15 years (all three, not pick one) it will be that GD libertarian, austerity president Mitt ROmney. And it just did not go FAR enough. Just like TARP and stimulus I, II, III, etc.
People that don't vote shouldn't bitch about the outcome
Guess we have no anarchist/volunteerists in this forum, eh?
I significantly stronger case could be made, though I wouldn't make it, that people who do vote shouldn't bitch about the outcome, as they've already accepted the validity of the process.
Personally, I'd never discourage anyone from bitching.
People that don't bitch, shouldn't vote I says.
People that don't vote should be able to say they're not the ones who made terrible decisions that lead to this mess.
Remember when Sarah Palin and Mark Sanford were the rise of "libertarian-leaning" governors? Seems like it was only 4 or 5 years ago.
We'll not bring up painful Reason memories about Butch Otter and Bill lol Richardson.
That's the way I prefer to remember Palin. With a few other details I don't feel like sharing.
At this point a glimmer of hope seems better than nothing.
No, I think we have to just suffer for for more years to get an actual cure, rather than just get the postponement surgery right now.
And I'm pretty sure we're going to. Mitt's not good enough to win.
I agree. Walker has a point. As much as I would love to see Gary Johnson as President, votes for third party candidates will drain more from Romney's side than Obama's. This election is too close and too important to let it go that way. It's a shame Johnson doesn't have a chance in hell right now but we've got better odds on doing away with Obamacare with Romney in the White House than Obama.
It is the most important election of the century! Hurka Durka!
I wasn't alive then, but I imagine people probably could've made the same argument about Medicare, Medicaid, and every other foolish program to come down the piper. We got this way by compromising our principles in the first place, and now people just assume that things are just supposed to be this way. At some point you have to stop and say, "I won't contribute to this anymore."
I love how you think your TEAM is entitled to other people's vote.
That's the whole point of NOT voting for ROmney. Let Obama win, destroy the economy and get the blame for it. Otherwise it will be the libertarian policies of mitt romney that are the cause of everything that Bush/Obama/ROmney have done.
And poor Obama had us on the right track but he couldn't do it being sandwiched between those libertarians Bush and ROmney.
I want the republicans to KNOW they lost the election because the pissed off the libertarians.
I've been fooled (or maybe voted my hopes is a better way to put it) too many times. This time it is crystal clear that Romney has no real principles, is not committed to cutting anything. He just wants to be president. Like many politicians, he is the sort of soft sociopath that just needs the approval of others and wants the power to make decisions for others while being adulated.
Romney will be worse than Bush at increasing the deficit, will not cut any programs or do much to slow Obamacare (it will just be called MittCare since our glorious new president will be catching the downtrodden in his mitt or something stupid like that). He will increase military spending, not do anything to decriminalize drugs, free immigration, or stop interfering with gay marriage, or end Patriot act.
This election is not close.
I do hope that Walker has some small L libertarian perspective, but I am willing to be encouraged that he is/was willing to take on government employee unions. While I do understand the need to take things one step at a time and that most police fire fighters are not hired at the state level, I hope ever so much that he will continue to take on the police and firefighter unions as well.
You need only look at his record. His government interference in the public unions (Which were originally private and negotiated with publicly elected officials to become public) says otherwise. He over-regulated the energy industry to the point many companies have left the state. He stuck his fingers in the states brewing industry making it nearly impossible for small brewers to grow. The list goes on. Just research it and weep.
lol I cant believe people believe a word out of their lying mouths.
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"They have a view that when you invoke the Tenth it's not just about the rights but also of the people, and that's a part that's often left out."
Am I the only one that reads this sentence as all kinds of stupid?
My reading of Walker's speech was "Sure, I have no problem with you wacky libertarians sitting behind the wheel every once in a while, but we won't give you the keys to drive. That's only for adults, ya know?"
As always, don't vote third party. Vote for us! We've changed! Honest!
Shit. I've voted R twice in the past twenty years in the general, and both times it was out of hate and fear, and I got fucked both times. I'm not doing it again. I'll watch the world burn first.
Not we've changed. It's too important to not let the other guy win. We'll change later.
I live in Maryland, which is a lock for Obama (probably by 10% or more). So it makes no difference if I vote for Romney or Gary Johnson. Therefore, Johnson it is. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Same here in Texas, Romney's a foregone conclusion so I plan on a Gary vote. Maybe we can send a message with the overall popular vote and still have the electoral vote add up to a Romney victory.
That's why it's so stupid when people make those arguments. I'm in Louisiana and I'll vote for whoever the heck I want. The results will be the results. Why should I let it be on record that I had anything to do with Obamney getting elected?
It vexes me that it isn't the open position of more libertarian Republicans that people in non-swing states should vote Libertarian if they want. Why not say, "I encourage libertarians in Mississippi and California to vote for whomever they want. As for libertarians in Florida, your vote will have an impact on the liberties you enjoy once you step out of the booth. You should not believe that voting for Gary Johnson has the greatest probability of maximizing your liberties."
If the goal if for libertarians to take of the GOP, they should make their numbers known in every way they can while not doing anything to get kicked out of the party and destroy what they have managed to accomplish in the last few years.
That's too nuanced for a democracy. You can't have if-then statements in your positions.
So we should vote for Romney to show our disgust for RomneyCareObamaCare? If we vote for someone like Gary Johnson who has consistently opposed anything like ObamaCare we implicitly endorse ObamaCare.
Well, at least he mentioned Gary Johnson's name. That's a start.
"I think that you're going to see more of an effort to push power away from the federal government not only to the states but more directly to the people," he said.
WAKE UP! You were having that dream again.
C'mon get dressed, you have to go tow the lion.
I live in New York State. I prefer to "waste" my vote on Gary Johnson.
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With the convention focusing on young Republican governors, Walker forsees a decentralization from Washington, D.C., to statehouses.
How should limited-government enthusiasts vote for president in November? Walker discouraged talk of supporting Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson, or any other third party candidate.
"If you're someone who cares about ObamaCare, if you think like I think, that it's an abomination, and if we don't fix it now it could be there for the rest of our lives, to me you gotta say, 'if you vote for anybody else on this http://www.chaussuresfree.com/.....-c-11.html issue you're essentially castsing a vote for that to continue.' That to me is pretty compelling reason for why people should give second thoughts to voting for anybody else like Gary Johnson, even if it's a principled vote just to send a message. That's how dangerous it is when it comes to Obamacare."
Romney wont repeal Romneycare. Everyone knows this. The guy freaking invented Obamacare, implemented it first, and refuses to say anything bad about it.
How should limited-government enthusiasts vote for president in November? Walker discouraged talk of supporting Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson, or any other third party candidate.
"If you're someone who cares about ObamaCare, if you think like I think, that it's an abomination, and if we don't fix it now it could be there for the rest of our http://www.airmaxhall.com/wome.....-c-10.html lives, to me you gotta say, 'if you vote for anybody else on this issue you're essentially castsing a vote for that to continue.' That to me is pretty compelling reason for why people should give second thoughts to voting for anybody else like Gary Johnson, even if it's a principled vote just to send a message. That's how dangerous it is when it comes to Obamacare."
Thanks for the article. IMO Walker has many anti-libertarian ideas, such as anti-unionism.
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Where are the Pinkertons when you need them?
Right, because unions negotiating with the politicians whose elections they make or break about how exactly how much loot shall be extracted from taxpayers for their benefit is oh so libertarian. Shut the fuck up.
No, people deciding to form a union is what is oh so libertarian. That fact that it might go to shit is inconsequential.
Walker did a good job in Wisconsin, but his statement about not voting libertarian is nonsensical and self-serving....
"If you're someone who cares about ObamaCare, if you think like I think, that it's an abomination, and if we don't fix it now it could be there for the rest of our lives, to me you gotta say, 'if you vote for anybody else on this issue you're essentially castsing a vote for that to continue.'
Fark that. Red Team isn't gonna pick up 60 seats in the Senate, so might as well vote Johnson.
Walker? Libertarian?
This guy has passed so many state regulations since he was elected it would make your head spin. He has had the state government meddle in nearly every industry that state has to offer.
I see they're trying VERY hard to get those people who don't sit one way or the other. Thankfully people only need to look at his actions to see where he really stands.
WHAT Libertarian-leaning governors? Certainly not Walker!
Check out http://www.libertarianinternational.org for what Libertarians are doing IMHO...