Forget Clint Eastwood, What About Lone Watie?
All the fuss about Clint Eastwood's performance art piece at the Republican National Convention got me thinking less about empty chairs and invisible adversaries, as intriguing as they are, and more about some of the great anti-authoritarian moments in Eastwood's movies over the years. One of my favorite, perhaps because I love grand and futile gestures, is Lone Watie's monologue right after he meets Clint's Josey Wales in The Outlaw Josey Wales. Played by the always excellent Chief Dan George, Lone Watie packs plenty of punch into a few spare sentences.
I wore this frock coat to Washington before The War. We wore them because we belonged to the five civilized tribes. We dressed ourselves up like Abraham Lincoln.
You know, we got to see the Secretary of the Interior. And he said, "Boy, you boys sure look civilized."
He congratulated us and he gave us medals for looking so civilized.
We told him about how our land had been stolen and how our people were dying. When we finished he shook our hands and said, "endeavor to persevere!"
They stood us in a line: John Jumper, Chili McIntosh, Buffalo Hump, Jim Buckmark, and me — I am Lone Watie. They took our pictures. And the newspapers said, "Indians vow to endeavor to persevere."
We thought about for a long time. "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union.
Even when your act of resistance is doomed before the fact, sometimes you've just had enough smoke blown up your ass and you need to do something to make your point. Lone Watie's character appeals to me so strongly because his fatalism never stands in the way of his willingness to do what he sees as the right thing.
Unfortunately, history suggests that Americans have a very high tolerance for smoke. So, until enough people get tired of … well … looking so civilized, enjoy yourself a little Lone Watie from a movie that's near and dear to me. (Note to the usual suspects: I'm not suggesting that "the right thing" is declaring war on the Union. So there.)
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I'm glad you included that last sentence, because there are a few unfortunates who equate and and all acts of resistance against the Union at that time as being a full-throated endorsement of slavery.
*equate any and all
You just had say "full-throated", didn't you, JJ. Just had to thrust that in there.
"thrust that in there"? Really, are all your double entendres so ham-fisted?
Oh, so sorry, JJ; I guess we can't all be as rigid and stiff as you in our adherence to subtlety.
Penis erections!
Why is it so hard for you to take my point and accept it?
Hehehe...cock.
Rice Henchmen: You don't think they're "dicking around" over there, do you?
Mr. Wongburger: I doubt it. They're professional dick hunters. They crave dick...as we all do.
Close the dick-gate!
You're a madman, Wongburger! This dick-ship will never fly!
Anytime someone comes over who has never seen ATHF, that, and the Fargate episode are the two I show them.
If you're not hooked after that, you're a retard and probably gay.
You don't have to be gay to like Dirtfoot, you just have to be gay to be Dirtfoot.
"Yeah, hey, thanks for not rinsing out your dishes in the sink, Dirtfoot, that's really legendary of you."
I always go with Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past from the Future, myself. And Global Grilling. And Hand Banana.
If you're not hooked after that, I probably won't enjoy talking to you anyway.
Hand Banana definitely. I'm not as big on the CGCPF myself.
I think for me, the single best thing is the t-shirts they made up showing a Powerpuff girl with a mohawk in a wheelchair that says, "Spring Break Cancun!"
That entire sequence has absolutely nothing to do with anything, even in the already nonsensical plot. It was that single second that broke my mind and ruined all other comedy for me forever. I even stopped like The Venture Bros. during the third season when they started having too coherent and internally consistent a story arc.
CGCPF was my first episode ever, and the fact that it had Glenn Danzig just totally made it for me. Completely ridiculous episode. I was hooked from then on.
I'm a particular sucker for comedy which is based around ridiculous, obnoxious characters, where the comedy comes more from how they react to events than the events themselves. That's why I love ATHF and Always Sunny.
I can watch Always Sunny, but don't usually actually laugh out loud at it. Cartoons are really where it's at for me, because they can do the non-sequiter so much better than live-action television.
It's the sheer absurdity of both the actions and reactions of characters which does it for me. That's why I miss SeaLab so very much.
Bizarro I love you bizarro!
Live-action comedy works better for me for the simple reason that a good deal of the comedy of a situation (at least for me) comes from the reactions of the characters -- and cartoons aren't able to draw as good of reactions as skilled comedians are able to come up with on their own.
Always Sunny was really good from the second season onwards, but to be honest I don't find its recent seasons that funny.
Season four was their peak. That season was nearly perfect. Season five just wasn't the same and it's been downhill from there. Now you're lucky to get one, maybe two good episodes a season and the rest are mediocre.
Yeah. I knew they lost their mojo when Mac in a fat suit became a season-long running gag.
"Peaked? Peaked, Dee? (laughs) Let me tell you something. I haven't even begun to peak. And when I do peak, you'll know. Because I'm gonna peak so hard that everybody in Philadelphia is gonna feel it."
Uh oh -- it's one of those threads.
Penis double-talk, or Confederate sympathizing?
I love that both of those occur enough that either one could be construed by a regular as "one of those threads". Normal people conversation must be so boring.
Confederate sympathizing penises (who also double-talk).
Uh oh -- it's one of those threads.
The Cherokees owned black slaves.
But what exactly is wrong with declaring war on the Union?
Trail of Tears!? Are you trying to invoke White Indian!?
Gambol all the way.
White Indian
Why doesn't he call himself a Gaul like a normal person.
Unfortunately, history suggests that Americans have a very high tolerance for smoke
The thing is, what is the pain point? Even during a recession, we have no gas lines, new smart phones, high speed internet access, TV that's better than it has ever been before, and Allison Brie. This isn't even close to even the late 70's, let alone the Great Depression.
Now, there may be serious pain looming on the horizon, but the parasites will do everything in their power to keep pushing that off for as long as possible, and they have a lot of arrows in their quiver and will almost assuredly be legislating themselves some more.
A wise man once said in the future, "Actual war is a very messy business. Very, very messy business."
We're at war but we don't make any sacrifice of daily convenience here at home. And yes, the same could be said of the recession, for 90% of us. No actual inconvenience. We need that real hurt to turn things around. Or go full socialist. Either way.
And the parasites know that if they can keep that hurt at bay, they can keep on stealing and cronying and power-tripping to their hearts' content.
Welcome to government.
A more cynical person would say that that's exactly the point: it's an implicit agreement that we allow them to loot, as long as they make sure we have dick pills and HD TV. We (non-parasites) willingly and voluntarily make that trade.
I agree. But you missed one word: majority. The majority willingly make that trade, but the minority has to go along with it.
Welcome to life on earth. Or do you believe in affirmative action for political minorities? You make me sick, you fucking liberal scum.
Now where's Cenotaph, I have the urge to destroy something beautiful.
Cenotaph was Mary and got banned earlier.
You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Don't let that stop you from running your moth tho, it's precious.
That's a reply to Episiotomy up there.
Raise your hand if you're now gonna rent The Outlaw Josey Wales within the next 24 hours. (My hand's up)
Already started my Eastwood rewatch marathon Wednesday (convenient timing, that).
I'll get around to The Outlaw Josey Wales pretty soon.
Did you enjoy him paired with Carol Channing in The First Traveling Saleslady?
Believe it or not, I did.
First Traveling Saleslady is an interesting movie, in that its a crossroads of sorts for a series of stars that would become big later on, and ones that were exiting the scene. Not even close to being the best Eastwood flick around, or even good enough to rise to the level of "hidden gem", but it's still better than most people give it credit for being and sort of interesting as a transitional film.
I own the DVD. Along with just about all of Clint Eastwood's other westerns.
I've had the urge to watch all of his "Man With No Name" flicks since last night.
I want to want to watch it, and really all of the "great" westerns. Problem is, they, like most man-shows make me fall asleep. I'll endeavor to persevere though, and talk to the hubs about scheduling a viewing one day during the kids' naptime.
Josey Wales may surprise you. It's really quite good.
My sister has been telling me the same thing. I'll so piss her off if I tell her I decided to watch it after some dudes on teh internez said it was good. She's still peeved that I only started Breaking Bad after I read an article about it four years after she tried selling me on it.
Hey, dude, I was telling people how great Game of Thrones was 15 years ago and no one listened. Tell your sister four years is nothing.
I proudly point to my pre-HBO GoT tattoo on my right arm, which is now somewhat faded after 10 years, as proof of how much cooler than them I am.
Tattoos are for trashy whores, JJ. So they're perfect for you.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
It's a fully nude portrait of Hodor, isn't it?
Tattoos are also for rock gods and basketball players.
Yeah but with Game of Thrones, 15 years you only miss a few books.
Depending on the kids' age, you can probably watch all three of Leone's "Man With No Name" movies with them: there's an implied rape scene in 'For a Few Dollars More,' and the scene in 'The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly' where Tuco is getting the crap beaten out of him by the army sergeant is pretty ugly, but beyond that, nothing worse than they'd see on TV.
Do NOT watch 'High Plains Drifter' with them, especially if they're still at the age where they have nap-time. It's an awesome movie, but... Ahh... Overall, it's pretty up-front with the brutality; f'r chrissakes, there's a rape scene in the first five minutes. Save that one for when they've gone to bed at night.
Too busy watching Tombstone.
I sweat to fucking zod, Netflix has a chip in my head to monitor my impulses and deprive me of my satisfaction.
Every time I think, "Hey, let's watch that movie." I go to Netflix for streaming, look and...nope, nothing. Oh, but hey, they have dozens of shitty TV shows and crappy C-grade movies that I'll never watch.
Documentaries.
Meh. Watched a couple episodes at a friend's place (who has a working TV), and it was like a bad laxative: it just didn't move me.
Just watched it for the first time tonight.
Great movie, or greatest movie?
Just damn.
If by rent you mean download...
Ron Paul supporters endeavor to persevere in the fight to bring liberty to the Republican Party....
Jim's clearly a Grand Wizard. And Lone Watie's a Confederate stooge.
I'm not a Grand Wizard, just a mid-level boss.
(Note to the usual suspects: I'm not suggesting that "the right thing" is declaring war on the Union. So there.)
Fergit, HELL!
Sad to see Tuccille renouncing his Neo-Confederate inclinations immediately after declaring them. The cosmotarian PC police loom large.
cant tel if serios
JD's lily-livered. Like a woman, or a damnyankee.
Paging Thomas DiLorenzo. Paging Thomas DiLorenzo.
Deo vindice.
IMO the best movie line Eastwood ever spoke is from Josie Wales. After the two 'bounty hunters' are killed and Josie's wounded pal says: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas." Josey Wales: (spits a wad of tobacco juice on the ground) "The hell with them fellas. Buzzards gotta eat... same as worms." I'd prefer it without the "...same as worms" at the end just the (spit) followed by "Buzzards gotta eat."
" No signed paper can hold the iron, it must come from men. "
My favorite anti-authoritarian Eastwood movie is High Plains Drifter.
The mayor is joke. The sheriff is worthless. The preacher is a disgraceful hypocrite.
No Name walks into town and replaces them all with a drunk midget.
Why do I keep getting signed out, why?
It's happening to me too. Is it a Chrome thing? I would think there is a large enough intersection of libertarians and computer nerds that Reason could exterminate the squirrels handily. Why are the squirrels given free reign?
As soon as I saw people complain about getting logged out, I though to myself "Probably some retards using Chrome". The sweet deliciousness of having my biases confirmed will keep me going for days.
I laughed at this. Apparently, this offended some god or another, because immediately afterwards Firefox crashed.
Karma is a bitch.
Chrome is the normal-use browser, and Firefox is used exclusively for pr0n. I don't know why. I'm just a girl and don't understand this magic box of light or how it works.
Nope, not a Chrome thing. I use it at work and home and no sign-out issues.
Let me just say I think it's hot that a girl surfs for porn. Hot hot.
Chrome could make me log back into Reason for every post and it still wouldn't lose me as much time in a week as Firefox loses me every morning when it decides to download another colossal fucking update and check my add-ons for compatibility yet fucking again.
Fuck Firefox. I'll go back to IE before I use Firefox.
I like how Firefox slows right down to tell you it needs an update.
I think your problem is using an OS that doesnt allow you to control when to update.
I installed linux on a mac then use wine to emulate Safari....
You don't know what trouble is.
Holy shit. dont no if cirius, but I did install linux on a pc and used an emulator to run windows, to run an emulator to run linux, something like that. May have been a mac in there somewhere. It was in my long ago redhat geek phase.
Are you using Hyperlink 2.5e for C64?
`telnet reason.com 80` ? why worry about silly things like cookie timeouts when I can just keep the values in my head?
I use Chrome and it isn't happening to me.
It wasn't happening to me on chrome but it is on safari (iPad).
That's what you get for using iShit.
Might be OSX + WebKit. I'd recommend deleting all your cookies associated with reason.com and .reason.com, but really losing your login session seems like an appropriate (if insufficient) punishment for using WebKit based browsers.
It is not a chrome thing. It happens to me frequently no matter what browser I am using. It can be extremely annoying at times, as I sometimes lose a post because of it. I have actually got into the habit of copying my post before I hit submit because of that.
It has something to do with web session time out. Definitely an issue. Never happened before the redesign.
The ironic thing is that I use Opera and I've never had it happen to me (yet).
Hmm. I haven't used Opera in a long time. I am either using Firefox(my preference), IE, or Safari when I am posting from my iPad. You know, come to think of it, it has never happened to me if I am posting from my office(faster internet), so that might have something to do with it. It is definitely something to do with web timeout settings, either session timing out, or transactions(posting) timing out.
I use Chrome at work and this morning was the first time it happened to me. Lasted for a few hours, it's probably the shitty internet at the office.
I think Reason can solve this with increases in all of the timeout values on their web server. That is definitely the first thing that I would try. Not sure if they even know about it.
I was dangerously close to having to do some actual work.
Given that loading this page involves ~100 HTTP requests, I'd say there are at least 100 things I would try prior to mucking with timeouts.
If the problem really is your internet speed interacting with timeouts, and you are sufficiently technically inclined or brave, you could try mucking with your network.http setings on FF (particularly those related to keep-alive and pipelineing)
Problem IS NOT my internet speed. The problem is with configuration on Reasons web servers. If it was my internet speed, then this would not be the only site it is happening on. My internet speed is pretty damn fast. At work it is faster because I can't afford that kind of bandwith.
Dude, I have worked in IT for 20 years. I'm a web developer and software engineer, and have developed websites for some of the most well known organizations in the country. I think that I know what I am talking about.
So as a website developer and software engineer, your claim is that increasing the timeout values on the web server would fix your problem, but your problem is not related to the speed of your internet connection?
When a database query times out it's the server's fault and has nothing to do with the client or its connection speed.
So if the call to the users table is crapping out, that's all on Reason.
I use Chrome and it isn't happening to me.
Chief Dan George was always great. Love that bit, too, especially--"We thought about for a long time. 'Endeavor to persevere.' And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union."
I'm watching it this weekend.
I love how he always (unsuccessfully) sneaks up on Eastwood and then explains how only an Indian could do that.
I love that movie. It really is one of the great movies of the entire 20th Century. Fuck every dork piss ant movie critic who puts up a "best of all time" list without putting that at least in the top 20.
Fuck every movie critic who puts up a "best of all time" at all. It#s a stupid endeavor.
I didn't surrender, but they took my horse and made him surrender. They have him pulling a wagon up in Kansas I bet.
So, Canadian Netflix has the following Clint Eastwood titles:
"Joe Kidd"
"Thunderbolt and Lightfoot"
and
"Play Misty for Me"
Carry on.
Play Misty for Me is great.
I love Thunderball and Lightfoot. Was on a couple weeks ago. Clint and Bridges are GREAT.
"You don't look so good...."
"I believe you're right......" *keels over dead*
That is a great movie. I don't understand why it isn't more remembered. Everyone in that movie is great. George Kennedy is a fucking menace. One of the great heist movies of all time. I haven't seen it on TV in years.
DId Roddick just retire?
Apparently he's become fed up with the emphasis the modern game places on "things other than serving".
If I were a millionaire and married to Brooklyn Decker, I think I would probably have better things to do than tennis as well.
Maybe he should have won another Grand Slam.
He won one US Open and banged Brooklyn Decker. That is two more grand slams than most will ever win.
Andy is a great tennis player, it just sucked that he couldn't break through the Nadal/Federer/Djokovitch ceiling. Neither can Andy Murray, though he did at the Olympics finally.
It was a tough time to be the second best player in the world. Same way great players like Pat Cash and Brad Gilbert suffered from the Conners MacEnroe and later Lendle domination.
John, you are overly obsessed with these model type women. I see hotter women than any of them walking down the street every day.
When I get my wimin vision 3000 cloning glasses working, which will allow me to clone any women I see on them, and make them my slave, then I will have to invite you over and prove it.
That is sarcasmic. I love all women in general.
Ahh, my apologies then. I will give you a free wimin vision 3000 dev unit when I have it ready.
Yep, the wimins come in lots of interesting flavors.
My big TV crush these days is the red head in the Wendy's commercial, Morgan Smith Godwin.
There's a series of Wendy's commercials with Dave Thomas' actual daughter Wendy. She is a red head, but not fine.
But I think she was Dave Thomas' only heir. I am thinking her bank account might make her a bit more attractive.
Now you're thinking like John Kerry.
the red head in the Wendy's commercial
Her hair is dyed and she's got a big nose. Notice that they almost never show her from the side.
This is what she looks like in her non-Wendy's life.
Um...yeah, that look is just fine by me.
"You know what this picture needs? A baconator!"
No, it needs you on my lap.
And yet, despite knowing this lesson, Reason advocates completely open borders.
That's the thing - immigration sure worked out well for the people coming over to America, but how well did it work out for the people actually living there? Not so hot.
And it's not an isolated incident. History shows again and again, when new cultures come, the old ones tend to get wiped out or repressed.
History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of man
Godzilla!
I got a bad rap. It was a setup I tells ya!
Don't fear the Freeper.
There is so much stupid in that comment, it is impossible to parse it into smaller nuggets of logical fallacy. It is the omphalos of mouth-breathing, Know-Nothinger stupidity. It is like a neutron star of idiocy. The very quintessence of cretinism. Not even Tulpa could approach such levels of purity in his stupid.
How about servile tony?
You know, you gotta have some respect for Tony. Everyday, he posts on these fora and his arguments are destroyed again and again as his premises are shown to be faulty and his understanding of the concepts he discusses is nil. Yet, he'll just hop on to the next thread, like nothing happened only to be intellectually pummeled again into a bloody pulp.
I haven't seen heart like that since Rocky Marciano.
And Tony never trolls. He always talks about the subject. I think of him more like the Washington Generals.
The guy I really respect is the Derider. He comes on a thread (*ahem*), gets the intellectual crap beaten out of him, and sneers at people *while* his argument is being destroyed without waiting for a new thread or anything.
That's a man with self-confidence!
you repsect joe from lowell?
"You know, you gotta have some respect for Tony."
No, I dont.
He is right. The old cultures do get wiped out with immigration. What he fails to mention is that that process has happened to the US several times. The old WASP culture died with the coming of the Irish and Italians. But so what?
Except when they don't. There are just as many examples in history of assimilation. Furthermore, colonization is not the same as immigration, which is what inbred mouthbreather was trying to argue above.
Assimilation changes the assimilating culture as well. We are a different culture because of the immigrants.
I think he was talking about the Indians.
But you can't compare the Indians to us. The Indians got wiped out because their populations were completely wiped out by disease. If 90% of America died of disease, we would have to worry about the Mexicans doing us what we did to the Mexicans.
Absolutely. And I would argue for the better a lot of the time. That's different than being "wiped out" or "repressed".
"I like my species the way it is."
"Assimilate this!"
Worf was a hardcore nativist, man.
This is funny.
Occupy RNC ends in tears, frustration
TAMPA, Fla. ? Republican National Convention protesters sobbed in each other's arms as their weeklong series of protests came to an abrupt and unremarkable end?
Following a fragmented march against the GOP, TheDC's photo team spoke to several protesters who said they were disappointed by low turnout at protests and the lack of open discussion between protesters and Republican leadership?
Lash, 26, described himself as a "conservative" and "a member of the Libertarian Party for six years" as he sobbed on the shoulder of Mike, a fellow protester.
"I love that we have an anarchist forum here, and I really love us, but I hate that our forum can't even talk with their conservative forum," he said. "The police just silence us, the Republicans just silence us. We are just getting silenced everywhere we go. It's like no one wants to even hear what we have to say."
http://dailycaller.com/2012/08.....f-the-day/
But the talk with Ten Bears is even better, philosophically speaking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Was it my imagination, or did Eastwood utter the forbideen word?.. you know, the 'L' word? I guess the GOP establishment will think twice before letting a senile old coot speak at their puppet show.
Yes he did. And that is why it was a great speech. It wasn't an endorsement of Romney or the GOP. It was him telling the country that it is okay to fire Obama. Eastwood didn't whore himself out and sing the GOP song, which I think makes his speech much more effective.
Local news here was upset about the throat slice gesture during his speech. However, I cannot find any video that shows the gesture itself was actually broadcast live on tv. People didn't see it, but now it suddenly is news.
An instapundit reader is floating the idea that Hillary is going to be a mystery speaker at the DNC and replace Biden. I don't think Obama has it in him.
I really, really, really like Obama compared to that witch. Need I say more about how much I loathe that witch?
I think Hillary would be more competent, which isn't saying much.
The problem is competence is a dangerous thing to have in an enemy.
Jesus Christ, is Joe Biden just a long con from a still living Andy Kaufman
Approaching a table of men he knew to be Greek, the VP said, "I'm Joe Bidenopoulos."
"Ask George," he said ? unclear who George was, maybe someone at the table ?"who's the most Greek Irishman he's ever known." Sounded like Biden was suggesting he is.
He moved on to a table of three women, sitting down briefly, before moving on to one where two women were sitting.
"Let's dance," he said to one, named Jennifer, as she stood up right next to him. They posed for a photo before he turned to her tablemate, who was wearing scrubs, and asked, 'Are you a nurse?" He then sat down and started speaking to her quietly, presumably about nurses.
Then, he posed with a group of restaurant staff and owners, and was talking about Greek food and rice pudding.
"Can I get some rice pudding to go?" he asked, just before the pool was ushered out at 1:05 p.m. Now holding in van.
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....enopoulos/
Biden is unquestionably, undeniably, the dumbest politician to ever live. There can't be anyone that is even close. When Obama was seeking out the one person that could not possibly make himself look stupid, he scored big time.
I am utterly convinced that he picked Joe Biden as assassination insurance. I'm not even sure the most hardcore KKK member would prefer Biden to Obama.
I think sometimes people make too much of the politicians are dumb thing. But Joe seems to be legitimately stupid. I am starting to wonder if maybe he is developing dimensia or something.
Uh, seen Boxer make an un-scripted comment?
Stupid is a compliment.
Listen to Jennifer Granholm sometime. My God her stupidity is just staggering.
If we're going to make this a fair competition, we have to put the Kennedys in their own division. They're like the Yankees of political stupid.
I am having a difficult time understanding all this coverage of the republican conference without accompanying word cloud graphics.
Are you boys gonna pull those pistols, or just whistle Dixie?
Dying ain't much of living.
Hell with them fellas.
*spit*
Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.
Best comment I have read about the Eastwood speech comes from someone named Saint Croix on Althouse.
That's exactly right, and it's why Republican politicians didn't like the speech, either. He was mocking the whole idea of the importance of government. He was belittling them, all of them.
Eastwood didn't even attempt to give a speech, in the classic sense. He was rude, he was funny. "Every couple of years they come around and try to get money from us."
"They're our employees. If it's not working out, time to go. No big deal."
He had very nice things to say about the American people. But Clint Eastwood shit all over Washington D.C. and the political class.
It was awesome.
Did anyone see the Michael Moore post about this on the Daily Beast and the comments?
Good Gawd, I didn't know that stupid came in a stronger industrial strength than the stupid found at HuffPo, but I guess I have been proven wrong.
We even have a recent example of a famous actor becoming politically divisive in his old age: Charlton Heston.
Probably 85% of Americans remember him as the guy in Ben Hur, The Ten Commandments, Soylent Green, Planet of the Apes, etc. Only the devotees of one side or the other in the gun rights debate remember him as the face of the NRA... and he was beating that particular horse for many years.
I really doubt one political speech of Eastwood's is going to be what he's remembered for.
This movie is the first instance of the visualization of First Person Shooting in which they put the camera behind the gun being fired.
No Josey, no Doom. Right?
He was lucky in the order, but he's always been lucky when it comes to killin' folks.
Hey ESPN, I don't give two fucks about Penn State. Tell my why I, as at 25, should give two shits when they haven't been relevant in my lifetime? Literally the only thing I grew up knowing was special about them was Paterno and he turned out to be a terrible excuse for a human being. Fuck you, please cover something else.
Also, see above for Notre Dame minus the pedophilia.
Also, see above for Notre Dame minus the pedophilia.
The pedophilia that you know of. They aren't associated with Irish Catholicism for no reason.
I know dude, it's going to be one of those seasons though. ESPN will run a fucking story into the ground.
Thats pretty bad ass dude.
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