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Ron Paul Roundup: Racking Up Delegates, Will Let Israel Choose Its Own Capital, Winning Over Santorum Fans

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*The Denver Post reports on Paul supporter victories at the Denver state convention:

Colorado Republicans are heading to their national convention with their most conservative delegation in years, as supporters for Ron Paul and Rick Santorum masterminded a stunning upset in electing delegates.

At the state convention in Denver today, Paul forces easily were the most vocal, adding their candidate's name at almost every opportunity. When Republicans sang "Hey, hey, hey, good-bye" to President Barack Obama, Paul backers changed the words to "Hey, hey, hey, Ron Paul."

The momentum was painful for Mitt Romney supporters, who had assumed when Santorum dropped out of the presidential race this week they'd have a much easier time in winning Colorado's delegate and alternate seats to the Republican National Convention….

Instead, some of the Santorum's supporters united with Paul's backers to form the "Conservative Unity Slate" to win a slew of delegate slots. Four years ago, only one Paul supporter was elected to attend the national convention.

"This is a revolution," said Florence Sebern of Denver, an "unpledged" delegate who was wearing a Paul pin. She was part of the slate.

Slate supporters said they wanted to send a message to Romney about the importance of sticking to conservative values.

More than 800 Republicans — easily double the number who sought to attend the RNC in 2008 — ran for the 33 elected delegate and 33 elected alternate slots.

At congressional assemblies Thursday and Friday, Republicans elected 21 delegates and 21 alternates. Thirteen of the 18 winning delegates elected Friday were on the Paul/Santorum unity slate.

 *Thomas Mullen at Washington Times communities page talks of the actual leanings of delegates from Colorado that other press report as "uncommitted":

Who do those 17 unpledged delegates support? Are they undecided, or do they intend to vote for a specific candidate at the Republican National Convention (RNC)?

According to the Real Clear [Politics] article, "Many would-be delegates criticized Romney, and some dejected Santorum fans teamed with Ron Paul supporters to push what they called a 'Conservative Unity Slate' to look for a non-Romney presidential candidate."

That is also technically accurate, but misleading. Not only did Paul and Santorum supporters "push" the Conservative Unity Slate, they got its delegates elected to go to the RNC.

Todd King of Lewis, Colorado is one of the elected delegates from that slate. King is a Ron Paul supporter and will vote for Paul for president on the first ballot in Tampa. I asked him how the 17 unpledged delegates break down. This is his statement.

"13 unpledged delegates, including me, will vote for Ron Paul on the first ballot. One unpledged delegate will vote for Santorum. The remaining three unpledged delegates, also known as the 'delegates at large,' are the state GOP Chairman, the state GOP National Committeman and the National Committeewoman. Those three will likely vote for Romney. They usually vote for the frontrunner so as not to make waves."

King said that the Paul delegates ran unpledged in order to win the votes of Santorum supporters who understand that the delegates will vote for Paul at the RNC, but would not be legally bound to do so. If anything changes with the Paul or Santorum campaigns between now and August, both camps would have an opportunity to persuade unpledged delegates to change their minds.

*Seamus Light at Policymic muses on how Paul can benefit from Santorum leaving the race, riffing off of Colorado and moving all the way to Jerusalem, and reminding Protestants: Paul's the only one in the race:

In Colorado, a state where Paul came in last place, a Paul/Santorum "Conservative Unity Slate" has captured the plurality of delegates, with Ron Paul leading the coalition. In addition, the Paul/Santorum alliance removed Romney supporter Ryan Call, Colorado State Party Chairman, from his seat as Delegation Chairman, as well as placed two of its own members on the state's Rules Committee.

Similarly, in Minnesota, three district conventions were held, with Ron Paul winning every delegate. Much is also suspected in Missouri. And in states where Paul performed well, the effects are predicted to be even more dramatic.

Second, Ron Paul has the best chance to win over Evangelicals and even more Santorum supporters, as seen in events past and present. Remember that it was Ron Paul who won the Evangelical Values Voters Summit straw poll back in October of 2011. And recently, Paul declared his willingness to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, symbolizing the city's status as de facto capitol of the Jewish state. Moves like these help Ron Paul grab the support of Evangelicals reluctant to vote for Romney, a "Massachusetts moderate" and Mormon.

*Angel Clark at the Examiner with details on Paul's Minnesota progress:

 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul achieved consequential delegate wins in Colorado and Minnesota today, affirming his delegate-attainment strategy and auguring a prominent role for Paul at the Republican National Convention in Tampa.

 In Minnesota, Ron Paul supporters swept the three district conventions that occurred today, winning nine of nine delegates to the national convention.  Minnesota is set to hold more such conventions next week….

"Ron Paul's victories today declare his delegate-attainment strategy to be a success and they demonstrate that the media and Washington pundits are undercounting his delegates to the Republican National Convention in Tampa,' said Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Manager John Tate. 

"Taken together, these victories and those yet to happen forecast a prominent role for Ron Paul at the RNC.  They also signal that the convention will feature a spirited discussion over whether conservatism will triumph over the status quo, all in relation to the end game of defeating President Obama," added Mr. Tate.

*More on Minnesota results for Paul from the Pierce County Herald:

Supporters of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex) won delegate slots for the National Republican Party Convention at three Minnesota Congressional District conventions Saturday.

Paul swept the three delegate and alternate slots up for election in the Third Congressional District, which consists of the west-metro suburbs; the Sixth Congressional District, which which is the north-metro suburbs and the Fifth Congressional District, which is largely the city of Minneapolis. So far four districts have picked delegates and Paul has won 10 delegates and former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum won two.

*The New York Sun congratulates Paul on the treated-as-big-news announcement–perfectly in fitting with his career-long belief that we should let Israel be Israel and manage its own affairs, even if not on our dime–that it's OK with him if Israel decides Jerusalem should be its capital.

Ron Paul's rEVOLution: The Man and the Movement He Inspired

*A Texas Santorum supporter goes for Paul, explains why in a post being forwarded with joy in the Paulista world, and delivers a passionate take on the Paul rally experience. Highlights:

Having lost my preferred choice for a presidential candidate on Tuesday, I determined that after a suitable period of mourning and reflection the only viable option was to shake it off and begin the search anew….

Last night, as part of this Quixote-like quest, I ventured into the heretofore unexplored dimension of a Ron Paul rally and was witness to something that can only be described as all parts exhilarating, befuddling, encouraging, depressing, moving, maddening and, ultimately, inspiring…

… the greatest issue facing the conservative cause is a demographical one, a lack of diversity that will shortly render the conservative message irrelevant. Where are the youth? I and others have asked. Where are the people of color? Why doesn't the conservative message resonate?

The answer to where they are could be found last night at the Will Rogers Auditorium. Often at political events there is a sense of excitement, anticipation, a certain buzz in the audience while waiting for the main event. Excitement, anticipation and buzz are weak and inadequate words to describe the pre-rally crowd last night. Energy is even inadequate. What undulated through the thousands who thronged outside before the doors opened last night was a kinetic power, the power of hope, the power of liberation, the power of anger at a system turned upside down….

Once inside, for the only time in my politically active life, I was transported to a world I had not seen before. There was enough energy in that room to power a skyscraper. Teenagers, college students, whites, Hispanics, African Americans, Asians, middle-aged, elderly, every racial, ethnic, socio-economic, cross cultural ingredient of the American melting pot was there. The auditorium was a cauldron of American citizens who understand and have grasped the true nature of the tyranny which has befallen this nation, a conflagration, if you will, of passion and anger and joy and determination. This is where the fire starts this time. The eruption when Mr. Paul took the stage was deafening…

So what did I come away with last night? It can be captured in one picture. Before Mr. Paul was introduced, part of his family took the stage: his wife, one of his sons, a smattering of cousins, nieces and nephews. That picture tells us all we need to know. They are us. They weren't pulled from central casting, exquisitely coifed and finely tailored, prepped and ready for the cameras. No. They are a family. They are us….

The flame of liberty's torch is no longer just slowly being extinguished. Each day brings new Executive Orders, new laws, new regulations, each more ominous than the last…

Which logically only leads to one answer: Ron Paul 2012

My soon-forthcoming book, Ron Paul's Revolution: The Man and the Movement He Inspired.

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  1. Fuck you, shrike.

    BTW, it’s really refreshing that Max doesn’t post here anymore. Now, if we can just get rid of shrike and Tony, we can enjoy some real discourse.

    1. Oh come on, the non-insane troll population keeps this place amusing.

      1. I prefer the insane, but amusing, ones (e.g. Herc).

        1. I can handle Tony and Shrike, they aren’t posting with the purpose of destroying the thread and making it unreadable.

          1. No, but they do post with the purpose of destroying the future of America.

            1. MNG is gone. What more do you want?

              1. Wow, was MNG another one of Mary Stack’s personae?

        2. Herc is some awesome bit of crazy.

          1. You are right Herc was teh awesome. Reminded me of Count Lithium von Cholride on anti-state.com back in the day.

            1. Count Lithium von Cholride

              TEH ILLUMINATI!!!!

              1. Ah you’re familiar with his work…lol

            2. “Was?” I’m pretty sure he’s been around a few times since registration…

          2. Herc was the equivalent of some well-behaved and well-meaning street preacher who would spout long-winded, yet humorous and entertaining, insanities at will.

            1. I should probably point out that I never viewed Herc as insane…just as a visitor from another dimension only tangentially connected to our own.

      2. My favorite was anon-bot, whose contributions were closer to on-topic than the other trolls.

        1. I was partial to the porn-bot first. Always stimulating. Especially after he started posting links with his eloquent descriptions. And entrepreneur and a scholar!

          1. *An

            …Gin and Tonics!

            1. Yes, please!

  2. Instead, some of the Santorum’s supporters united with Paul’s backers to form the “Conservative Unity Slate”

    I do not like this, Sam I Am.

    1. santorum voter asking where the youth, people of color are etc:

      Possibly because people like Rick Santorum are a big voice in the GOP?

      [putting in some random text at the bottom, hoping that the squirrels see my message as ‘valid’]

      Reason: Please fix your ‘comment is invalid’ errors. There’s nothing about my comment which is invalid.

  3. I doubt enough Santorum supporters will defect to Ron Paul to give him a real shot at the nomination. I think most of them will fall in line behind Mr. Establishment (Romney).

    1. If Santorum voters believe what comes out of Santorum’s mouth, I honestly don’t see anything about Ron Paul that would attract them.

      1. Yeah, Santorum simply distrusts Mitt Romney due to his past liberalism and Mormonism, but he actively loathes Ron Paul because he hates libertarians.

      2. Maybe they all had a collective brain fart when they got into the voting booth?

      3. Rationally, I agree. However, Santorum supporters aren’t rational. I’d be willing to bet their support wasn’t so much because they agreed with Frothy, but they will choose anyone but Romney.

      4. If Santorum voters believe what comes out of Santorum’s mouth, I honestly don’t see anything about Ron Paul that would attract them. can’t imagine they are sane.

    2. I think the problem is that so many voters are absolutely ignorant of who they are really voting for. They hear that Santorum is the “conservative values” candidate and so they support him. Now they see Paul is being the “most conservative candidate” so some of them are going to support him. People are stupid. People are political hacks. I’m not as surprised by this crap anymore.

  4. Santorum delegates defecting to Paul isn’t that odd. Santorum became the bucket into which anti-establishment votes went. When backed into a corner, as they did with the end of the Santorum candidacy, they could certainly put their chits into Paul’s basket.

    Romney’s not a terrible Republican candidate, but if you’re down on establishment Republican candidates, where do you go? Santorum captured a lot by being the biggest not-Romney name in the race who isn’t routinely ridiculed. It’s more natural that his delegates move to Paul rather than Gingrich. It’s more of a slur on Gingrich as a toxic candidate than an indictment of Paul as an insurgent.

    Bottom line, though, is that Romney will be the candidate.

    1. “Santorum captured a lot by being the biggest not-Romney name in the race who isn’t routinely ridiculed.”

      That part’s a joke, right? It’s fair to say santorum got his share of mockery.

      Santorum and Paul are very different, but there is some overlap as to the people they appeal to.

      Supporters of both candidates believe that the country faces serious issues – yes, even more serious than the Dem v. Rep punch and judy show. Supporters of both are looking for plain-speaking conviction candidates. I doubt Santo fits the bill, but Paul certainly does.

      1. I’ve talked to a fair share of Santorum supporters, and they weren’t all that clear on Santorum except he was not-Romney and not-Gingrich.

        A lot of people were calculating vectors that were “not-something” and ended up in one camp or another.

        It’s not that uncommon; it’s the basis on which TEAM RED/TEAM BLUE is based. Collapse one waveform and your zero-point becomes some crazy old man like Ron Paul.

        1. I think I see your point, but did you ask the Santorum folks *why* they were looking for an alternative to the anointed frontrunner? (I can see them not wanting Gingrich)

          1. The conversation, in general, went like this:

            Them: “I guess we’re going to vote for Santorum.”

            Me: “Just vote for Romney, he’s going to be the Republican candidate.”

            Them: “Why not vote for Santorum? You know something about something, so give me a reason to not vote for him.”

            To put it in perspective, these are people I’ve been working on since Harry Browne.

        2. Crazy? Crazy like a FOX!

          Someone had to say it.

  5. I think a lot of Santorum backers really had no idea what a big government guy he was – he was just an alternative to Romney who has been designated the “Establishment” candidate for some reason (despite not spending any time in Washington).

    1. Romney who has been designated the “Establishment” candidate for some reason (despite not spending any time in Washington).

      One does not have to spend much time in DC to cultivate all the necessary contacts to establish “Establishment” cred. One cursory glance at his campaign staff and list of endorsers, before the big kerfuffles, should disabuse any notion that Flopney is anything less than “Establishment.”

  6. I was there in Denver. It was painful.

    Seirously, 800 speeches, each with about 15 second per (but a lot go over and do 30)… it’s just three hours of people jumping up there, saying 3 things, then leaving.

    1. So maybe you should consult Groovus about these masochistic tendencies…

  7. I was at the Ron Paul rally in Fort Worth. It was a cool experience. The guy’s description was spot-on.

  8. Turns out my eldest daughter is a Doctor Who fan.

    Where did I go wrong? Is God punishing me?

    1. Depends, which Doctor is she a fan of? If it’s David Tennant, she’s a perfectly normal girl. If it’s Jon Pertwee or Colin Baker…yes you might have made parenting errors.

      1. No she likes the show but I can’t stand it.

        I’ve seen numerous episodes and all it’s been for me is annoying.

        1. Well, in its current incarnation, it’s rather like a soap opera in that you need to know the characters and what’s going on to “get” it, but once you do, you’re hooked. Not terribly thrilled with the current Doctor (Matt Smith) but still watch the show and have since Jon Pertwee was terrorizing the English countryside with his inertial-less brake equipped jalopy..

      2. If it’s David Tennant, she’s a perfectly normal girl.

        Sigh, I guess DT is acceptable; I suppose there is nothing wrong with Girl Fanservice. Rose and Martha were Guy Fanservice. There have been much, much worse Doctors.

        1. *cough* Peter Davison *cough*

          1. Got a bug, do ya? If PD is more Girl Fanservice-y for ye, then Bob’s yer uncle.

            1. Ah hell no. PD was an abomination. Cute but no way Tristan can pull off being the Doctor.

              1. Not as a coin flipping, pastel clad weenee, no. Celery? Spare me. PD is the John Edwards of Doctors.

                1. Agree.

        2. David was my favorite because 1) as an Ascended Fan Boy he actually knew what the show was about 2) he could actually act 3) yeah I’d like to get nailed by him.

          1. 1) True, and his interpretation showed this.

            2) He was prone to ham, at times.

            3) I’ll take Donna Noble or Freema Agyeman as Groovy Fanservice.

            1. Donna was a bit chunky and whiny, but Freema was HOT.

              1. Donna was a bit chunky and whiny

                HERESY! She was a temp worker, what do you expect?

                1. Donna got much better over time, but the first few episodes with her were like nails on a chalkboard.

                  1. You get plucked from your wedding and tell me how much your disquietude is assuaged. And roaming around in TARDIS, to boot!

                    I, for one, was sympathetic. Donna == Hawt.

                    1. If got plucked from my wedding by the Doctor I’d be orgasmic (not that I have anything against my husband but he really can’t stand up to a one to one comparison with a Time Lord). You just have a thing for redheads isn’t it 😉

                    2. Well, I won’t tell hubby. Having a TARDIS is a tough act to follow.

                      Yes, yes I do have a resolute and unyielding fancy for the gingers.

    2. Turns out my eldest daughter is a Doctor Who fan.

      If she is familiar with Tom Baker, then this is permissible.

      Where did I go wrong?

      I blame the Gawker family of websites.

      Is God punishing me?

      Is your darling daddy’s girl a Jezehellion? If so, then yes, and deservedly so.

  9. I think this is an excellent example of how completely meaningless the term “conservative” is as a descriptor.

  10. There is a dude that is just like totally rocking it. WOw.

    http://www.Gimme-Privacy.tk

    1. Thank god you’re back!

  11. The photographer did a great job of making a dozen people look like a crowd.

  12. Romney supporter: “MOVE ALONG. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!”

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