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Ron Paul Campaign's Jesse Benton "This time it's about real political victory"

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Interesting followup of sorts to my article from this morning on the Paul campaign after Super Tuesday, NPR gets some interesting quotes and observations from the campaign's chair and main spokesman Jesse Benton. Highlights from Benton:

Most of the delegate projection is simply that, speculation based on how people think delegates will be allotted based on performance in nonbinding straw polls….The reporting of delegate attainment is largely skewed by the media right now….

The money that we're raising, we're spending very, very aggressively to win delegates. In 2008, the whole point was that we thought conservatives and constitutionalists deserved to have a constitutionalist to vote for even down the line. It was largely a party-building exercise. This time it's about real political victory. Dr. Paul is going to stay in this race either until he's the nominee or another candidate has 1,144 bound delegates. We see a brokered convention situation as very likely….

We won't have money left over. What will be left is the organization, the movement, the lists, things like that. That will be left behind, and that's extremely valuable. Not a pot of money. Those assets are there to try to fight for liberty and Sen. [Rand] Paul is one of the premier voices for liberty in this country. The assets that we have will always be available for him to use as he sees fit….

 this beating of the war drums is disastrous for the Republican Party. If the Republican Party wants to just anoint Barack Obama and hand him keys to a second term, then Republicans can just continue this warmongering…..The American people are very clear: They don't want us going carelessly into another war. Barack Obama is painting himself as a much more reasonable person, who is much more open to peace. We don't believe that. But on the naked politics of it, the appearance, Barack Obama is painting himself as the reasonable person that's much more in step with the American people on this.

Bonus Paul data: a fan cobbles his vote totals in terms of percentage of total state population.

Bonus Paul video: Video made by old Reason-er Cosmo Wenman. Other candidates may talk about love, and try to hug you, but Ron Paul means it:

Bonus opportunity to buy my forthcoming book on Paul.

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  1. Amen!

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  2. “this beating of the war drums is disastrous for the Republican Party. If the Republican Party wants to just anoint Barack Obama and hand him keys to a second term, then Republicans can just continue this warmongering…..The American people are very clear: They don’t want us going carelessly into another war. Barack Obama is painting himself as a much more reasonable person, who is much more open to peace. ”

    Amen again, thit time with content!

  3. Apparently not all reason writers are beltway libertarians.

    1. Apparently a large percentage of H&R readers are morons who use the terms “cosmotarian” or “beltway libertarian”, because they are so married to the TEAM RED TEAM BLUE KULTUR WAR that they have to project it within libertarianism as well.

      If you want to go fight that idiotic fight, go play with the partisans and fuck off.

      1. [Typed as Episiarch sips a Cosmopolitan, with pinky raised, while reading The Utne Reader and nodding in agreement.]

        1. …while reading The Utne Reader and nodding in agreement.

          You go too far.

          1. He’s from the Northeast, you know.

            1. I mean, the pretty fits, soft hands, definitely a moneyed individual. All rich and lily-white, pasty all over…

              1. Pasty?!?

          2. Not really, but the USTA’s Tennis Magazine would be more appropriate.

            I only read The Utne Reader when on the Cape and The New Yorker when in the Hamptons.

            1. Points at screen and makes Donald Sutherland screech from The Invasion of the Body Snatchers.]

              1. Look, ProL, just because my daily read isn’t Highlights like it is for you doesn’t mean you have to be a dick.

                1. At least Highlights is hardcore libertarian. None of the left-liberaltarian crap you spew.

                  1. That was a trap, ProL. Just to see if you did in fact read Highlights, and you confirmed it.

                    You so easily fell into my little trap.

                    1. I’ll have you know that in the latest issue, the Hidden Picture? is of the Constitution.

                    2. Are you sure? This month’s hidden picture just looked like a pile of kiddie dicks to me. Just like always. That magazine’s for perverts, I tell you.

                    3. Wait, so ProL is encroaching on your territory now?

                    4. From Highlights website:

                      Highlights magazine is a gift you can feel good about giving. The experts at Highlights know how to keep libertarians motivated with fun while they are learning and practicing the essential skills they will need in fending off the state and its wretched supporters.

                      Revolt-building fun
                      In every 42-page issue, libertarians explore new topics, investigate cool subjects, and find out about the sad state of the world. Highlights is filled with stories, games, puzzles, riddles, political experiments, weapons-design projects, and libertarian entertainment!

                      A freedom-loving classic you can trust
                      Highlights provides a statist-free zone in which to play, learn, and just be a libertarian.

                      (cont’d)

                    5. (cont’d)

                      A gift libertarians open again and again
                      Libertarians look forward to receiving Highlights in the mail. It’s something special just for them. It’s like receiving a unanticipated windfall 12 times a year!

                      With more than a million readers each month find out why Highlights is the world’s best-loved libertarian’s magazine!

                    6. So when you’re at the dentist’s office, you read Time or People?

                    7. Who are you asking, Ska? Because ProL reads Cosmo and Warty reads the local sex offender list on his phone to make sure he isn’t on it.

                    8. Is that that porn magazine that women read?

                    9. The sex offender list is women’s porn?

                    10. The sex offender list is women’s porn?

                      In ProL’s mind, yes. He’s kind of twisted that way. A total misogynist.

                    11. He’s kind of twisted that way. A total misogynist.

                      Oh heavens no! Whatever shall we do?

                    12. Cosmo, of course. My mom read it back in the 80s. It was like having Playboy–thanks, Mom!

                    13. Gotta stay one step ahead. You know this full well, since you’re Interpol’s #1 most wanted trafficker of pirated tranny porn.

                  2. At least Highlights is hardcore libertarian.

                    Are you fucking kidding me? Every read “Goofus and Gallant”? Pure commie propaganda.

                    1. That’s bullshit, you Maoist! You take that back!

                    2. What the balls is going on?

                    3. It’s Friday, dude. Relax. Go read Highlights.

            2. Getting ready for the Indian Wells/Miami?

        2. lmfao

      2. What are you, some kind of kiddy-diddlin’ faggot or something? Go back to New York, faggot.

        1. I hear he plays tennis. With a girl named Babs.

          1. More like he IS a girl named Babs, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a New York faggot. Maybe he’ll drive up here in his Prius and kick my ass, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

          2. Tennis is a sport for betas. Not enough slapping other dudes’ asses for it to be alpha.

            1. There is net-jumping and trying to hit your opponent during service.

        2. So you don’t want me encroaching on your territory, I guess.

          1. WHAT? NO! THAT’S NOT WHAT I MEANT!!!!!!

            1. Oh, dear, I fear that was a distressingly fine riposte. Oh, dear.

      3. Why can’t you childish morons take your childish behavior elsewhere? This is a serious fucking publication!

        1. I accept correction.

        2. Fuck you! Why are you helping the publishers of Highlights torment me with their pictures of piles and piles of little baby dicks??

          1. Maybe if you took off your baby dick glasses you’d stop seeing them everywhere.

            1. “I have an advanced degree in dick-nology!”

              1. I can’t see how anyone would be surprised by that.

            2. Not this year!

      4. u mad bro?

        tbh that was a term I learned in here. are you going to refute that many reason writers like to downplay his campaign or even refuse to acknowledge it?

        1. No reason to bash on Reason for being skeptical. Some writers are simply more so than others. Even the people at mises have a realistic, if not cynical expectation especially about the electorate, although most don’t really talk about it, not publicly anyways. Please see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc3xDhJFPIU
          But thing is, we would ALL love to be wrong.

  4. Barack Obama is painting himself as a much more reasonable person, who is much more open to peace. We don’t believe that. But on the naked politics of it, the appearance, Barack Obama is painting himself as the reasonable person that’s much more in step with the American people on this.

    I can’t say I disagree with that. However, the focus of the independent voter who will decide November’s election is his or her feelings, and they feel that Obama has done damage to the economy and they feel that Romney is a different person than Obama.

    For the primary voter, and probably the independent general election voter, Ron Paul is TOO different a person. Bob Schieffer has told them that they should scoff at Paul, and so they will. He had a nice run but we’re at least another term away from being in the dire straits it would take for people to vote actual change.

    1. It’s a real shame. The only way for a person of Mr. Pauls character and conviction to get elected is for things to get worse, and by that point it would be too late…

      1. Ron Paul is an anomaly, to be sure. I’ve come to the conclusion that only way an honest, liberty-loving individual can occupy the Oval Office is if he comes to it late in his political career and tones down the anti-statist rhetoric on the campaign trail.

        To even get to the point of having a credible shot at the presidency, you have to have made so many deals, so many compromises, engaged in so much self-serving scamming to get the money and message structure behind you that you’re tainted long before you take the oath.

        1. Unless you’re independently wealthy and finance your own campaign, in which case, most of the tainted stuff probably still applies, and if it doesn’t, the MSM will tell their readers that they should find you icky.

  5. Dr. Paul is going to stay in this race either until he’s the nominee or another candidate has 1,144 bound delegates.

    That’s the heart of it. The states that have voted so far have totaled 863 delegates. Romney has 340 bound delegates, not quite 30% of what he needs. Of those, 276 are unbound.

    Let’s extrapolate forward. 2286 total delegates are allocated. That means we’re 37.8% of the way done. That means Romney is headed for about 900 bound delegates, far short of the number he needs. And this is probably not super accurate, but there will be maybe somewhere in the neighborhood of 730 unbound delegates.

    I’m willing to bet Paul scores half of those, and Romney won’t get 244 of the remaining unbound delegates. Looking at it that way, I don’t see how people aren’t thinking a brokered convention is the most likely outcome.

    /mathgeek

    1. Romney has 340 bound delegates, not quite 30% of what he needs. Of those, 276 are unbound.

      Alright, I’m no math geek, but I am puzzled by how, out of 340 bound delegates, 276 are unbound.

      1. Whoops, too much rearranging of my thoughts. It was 276 of the 863 total so far that are unbound.

    2. That means Romney is headed for about 900 bound delegates, far short of the number he needs.

      That assumes that, contrary to the usual pattern, the frontrunner doesn’t run away with the later states as people jump on the bandwagon.

      People are weird.

      They somehow get from the idea that they should vote for the candidate they want to win, to thinking that means they should vote for the candidate they think will win.

      1. That assumes that, contrary to the usual pattern, the frontrunner doesn’t run away with the later states as people jump on the bandwagon.

        Two things are preventing that.

        In 2008, Super Tuesday was 23 states, and it was only 10 this time. McCain got a huge chunk of delegates, Romney dropped out, and Paul was a non-factor. Huckabee didn’t have a chance after that. This go round, we’ve got a frontrunner, plus three guys that have all sworn up and down they’re not dropping out before the convention.

        Also, a lot more states are doing proportional allocations instead of winner take all, which is preventing someone with only 30-40% of the votes from scooping them all up. So the delegate count isn’t progressing in the same way.

  6. YOUR PATHETIC DOCTOR CANNOT SAVE YOU!

    1. That’s okay. We’re not in need of or looking for a savior. We want a Liberator!

      And calling him pathetic will not help you, especially when you give nothing to qualify it with.

  7. WHEN YOU REACH THE FUTURE WE WILL ALREADY HAVE WON IT.

  8. Other candidates may talk about love, and try to hug you, but Ron Paul means it

    Look, I like Paul, but…

    *barf*

    1. I’m not in this for the hugs, either. Unless he’d going to hug the government until it passes out. That’s okay.

      1. That’s called a bear hug.

        1. I thought that was when Andrew Sullivan hugged you until you pass out.

        2. You sure it’s not a rear naked choke?

          1. That may be what he was doing this morning.

          2. That’s a Chuck Norris hug

    2. I think it would have been better if they had used the Jefferson Airplane song.

      1. Or better yet, a Descendents song.

    3. that was a bit cheesy

  9. Dude is like totally keepin it real. Nothing wrong with that man.

    http://www.Got-Privacy.tk

    1. You tell ’em, anon-bot.

  10. Cute concept, but am I the only one who finds the irony in coupling a Queen song with Ron Paul, who while supporting individual rights has openly states his personal discomfort being around gay men?

    1. *openly stated*

      Sorry for mixing tenses. Its Friday. I need the weekend so bad.

    2. Funny, I thought what he openly stated was his discomfort in being hit on by gay men.

      I don’t care what people do in their spare time, and have been friends with any number of gay men, but I have to say being hit on by one would make me uncomfortable.

      1. Why? It’s a compliment. Compliments make you uncomfortable?

        1. You don’t have to even address this from a same-sex perspective. What about when women you aren’t attracted to hit on you? When you’re sober, I mean.

          1. When am I sober? Your question makes no sense, ProL.

            1. For the second time in this thread, I accept correction.

          2. Don’t you just brush it off like everyone else? At least with women they’re not usually too grabby.

            1. Maybe not with you.

      2. It only makes him uncomfortable because Max is so creepily aggressive about it.

        1. Never again. Now I hate him! I hate him I hate him I hate him!!!

  11. You know, all kidding aside, I wonder if it wouldn’t be a good use of the Reason Foundation’s money to publish a libertarian magazine for kids? Not political indoctrination, but a kids publication with libertarian themes. No hookers, though. That’ll put off some parents.

    Not necessarily print, either, of course.

    1. They already have that. It’s called Hustler.

      1. ^^^ Thanks for making my afternoon, Epi. 😉

      2. Hustler for Kids.

        1. Now that’s fun with a purpose.

          1. “Goofus and Gallant” are lesbian strippers in Hustler for Kids, for example.

        2. How many boobies can you find in this picture?

          1. See, that way kids can learn to count by twos.

      3. *choke*

        Must remember not to eat or drink whilst reading online.

    2. How many times can you reprint “Harrison Bergeron,” “1984” and “Animal Farm” in comic book form?

  12. I WANT TO BELIEVE

  13. I dunno know about that video– the combination of Queen’s “Somebody to Love” & fast-changing images of MEN gives this exercise a homoerotic flavor, as though brought to us by the North American Ron Paul Love Association.

    Don’t get me wrong– Ron Paul does look especially lovable in photo.

    1. *I’d* hug him.

    1. um…

    2. harhar.
      But it ain’t OVER till it’s over.

      ..waiting for brokered convention

      1. Limited government and more freedom have no place in the republican party. Ron Paul is openly mocked for his ideas because they are so far out of the main stream republican mindset.

        I honestly do not believe he wants to be President, I believe his goal is to get people to take notice of what is going on.

        1. It’s a good thing he doesn’t want to be President because he isn’t going to be. That’s because people do notice what’s going on in his head. He’s a fucking racist crackpot.

  14. Ron Paul started out as a boring old fuck, but he’s rapidly becoming a dead horse that Doherty keeps flogging. Jesus Christ, man, give it up.

  15. i cant help but notice that some comments are made against Dr. Paul. i just want to say this election is about our freedom. Dr. Paul knows and has commented on the dangerous path those on the hill are taking.

    the way i see it, it is a matter of need verses want. do you need your freedom? do you want your freedom? in january we lost our freedom and liberty. any american can be targeted, held without bail, a phone call or the right to an attorney. this is some serious s–t, and definetly no joke.

    if i were you i would give Dr. Paul support and your vote. he’s the only one that is trying to save your as–s. all the other candidates including obama, will gladly send your butts off to some foreign land nicknamed “meatgrinder”.

    Do yourselves a favor, you have a keyboard in front of you, use it. research is the only way you will understand Dr. Paul. Peaceout all

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