Chuck Schumer, Defender of Cheap Coffee, Wants to Ban Breathable Caffeine Shots
Via The New York Observer, I see that Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-New York) has urged the Food and Drug Administration to put a hold on the sale of Aero Shot, a new breathable caffeine and vitamin product, out of fear that club goers might use it to party later into the night. According to the company that developed the product, each "shot" contains 100mg of caffeine, as well as some Vitamin B. On the product website, Tom Hadfield, the CEO of the company, notes that the shots contain "the same amount of caffeine as a cup of premium coffee." Compared to the java served at Starbucks, however, that's not quite correct: According to the Mayo Clinic, a 16 oz cup of Pike Place roast has about 330mg of caffeine on average, making it far more caffeinated than an Aero Shot. So why go after Aero Shot but not Starbucks? There doesn't seem to be any clear reason to make a distinction. And it's not as if Schumer has a problem with coffee drinkers getting their fix. Indeed, he's actually fought for policies explicitly on the grounds that they would make coffee more affordable; in 2010, he went on a minor crusade against overseas coffee growers for stockpiling coffee beans, which he warned would hike retail prices for a cup of joe. The only notable difference between coffee drinkers getting their fix in the morning after staying out too late and Aero Shot shooters ingesting breathable caffeine power in order to stay out a little later seems to be that Schumer wants to protect the former and prohibit the latter.
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" So why go after Aero Shot but not Starbucks? There doesn't seem to be any clear reason to make a distinction"
The reason is clear. Chuckie doesn't like one, but is ok with the other.
Corrected version.
"The reason is clear. Chuckie didn't receive campaign contributions from the one, but did from the other."
Don't forget the grandstanding factor. Especially when it involves the youths and the threats of excessive partying down.
So why go after Aero Shot but not Starbucks? There doesn't seem to be any clear reason to make a distinction.
Because going after Starbucks is a political loser, but going after aero shot because it's new, and different, and can be portrayed as a 'problem' provides a camera-op and political hay for Chuckie Schumer. He really is a disgusting excuse for a human being.
I like to watch him lick his lips.
I always figured you had way better taste in men than Chuckie. I am Disappoint.
I am convinced he is not a human being. He is one of those who shows up on that screen in "Men in Black", when Tommy Lee Jones is explaining to Will Smith about all the aliens that live among us. I think he's some kind of reptilian species from beyond Uranus.
"Within", not "beyond".
Otherwise, spot-on.
Chuck Schumer, fascist ratbag. If it's remotely new or scary, Chuck wants to ban it. Not surprising, really; he's never had a productive job in his life, so he's essentially been isolated in the Washington, DC thought-bubble all his life and doesn't understand how anyone else in America lives. I really think that people like Schumer are one of the best arguments against geographically-based voting: some people in NY like him, so the rest of America is stuck with his idiocy.
He did ace his SAT's. That makes him your better. Get in line, peon.
One of my liberal friends lives in NYC now, and she says Schumer really understands how ordinary people live. Seriously.
I try not to let my friends' political beliefs affect our friendship. Until they say shit like that.
So he's just a giant dick? Even better.
This is why we need term limits for Congresscritters. Putzhead Schumer has been around too long, and because of the advantages of incumbency, will be carried out of the Senate chamber feet first.
I would very much like to assist him in acheiving that as soon as possible.
fought for policies explicitly on the grounds
I see what you did there.
lol, i just caught that.
Pun possibly intended.
It's kind of "druggy." War on it must be declared.
This. One must *drink* one's caffeine, the way God intended.
That was my thought. Too much like a "drug." We can't allow that.
What about No-Doze or Vivarin? Do they still make those?
Fuck, we need a constitutional amendment to prohibit Caffeine, STAT!
...hmmph ... too sleepy ... do it later....
How about we just declare a War on Flowers (WoF [sup]TM[/sup] - apparently some HTML tags don't work) and just go all Agent Orange. They could even use the drones to spread it while they're out on Homeland Security surveillance.
Two birds, one stone.
the code you're looking for is & trade ; with NO SPACES in between any of it. It looks like ?
They should sell it in an inhaler, like asthma medication. It's all about appearance.
Hey Chuck, quick, there is a camera of there!!!
Dude, cut that out, there were women and children between Chuckie and that camera!
Now, if you could just place that camera on the front bumper of a bus that would be commendable work.
Then we could drive that bus into the Grand Canyon.
See, just like yesterday's thread, here's another place where SOCONs and Nanny Staters are the same - the fear that somewhere somebody might be making their own choices. Oh, and fuck chuck.
Yeah, i was about to say that. Wasn't someone telling us yesterday that liberals were just so much better on the war on (some) drugs?
liberals only get offended at drugs bought by people who have jobs and, thus, are not on the govt dole. When the drug effort reaches into reliably-Dem areas, that's when they launch into hyper-drive.
Many liberals are good on the WOD. Really. They just vote for people who aren't for some reason.
Probably Tony, though he fucking knows better.
fuck chuck
*upchuck*
That's my line.
sorry, didn't mean to barf on any toes.
Coke and X dealers also want it banned.
Of Sex & Gender: A Girl Scouts Story
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A few months ago, word broke of a seven-year-old transgender girl who wanted to join the Girl Scouts. At first the request was denied; the child was born male, and understandably there were some concerns about her being admitted into an all-girls program. However, they eventually said yes.
The issue of gender is a touchy one, so it was admirable for such a well-known organization to take such a progressive stance. Among the highly contested issues of our current time, LGBT rights is in the spotlight, so this could be seen as a victory for the progression of acceptance. The Girl Scouts released the following statement on the issue:
Of course, a decision like this was not made without resistance. A number of troop leaders resigned in protest, and more recently, a teen girl from California has started an effort to boycott Girl Scout cookies.
Of course, it's natural to bring in the safety issue when it comes to a controversial topic. Family and safety are two arguments used whenever there's a lack of substance otherwise, the implication apparently being that being transgender somehow poses a danger to other girls. Girl Scouts stated that they would take each request on a case-by-case basis to ensure that there was no abuse and that everyone would be safe, which is wise.
However, this brings to light an issue that hinders progression for transgender individuals: the apparent disregard for the difference between sex and gender.
A common argument against any person living a life opposite from the socially-defined norm pertaining solely to their anatomy involves the idea that a person's anatomy works as the sole definition to their person, so that any person who calls themselves anything other than their sex is 'not a real boy/girl.' This is a definition based on sex, but it fails to account for aspects of a person that are not controlled by their appearance.
So much emphasis is put on what a person looks like that issues like this attempt to define what a person can and cannot do based solely on their sex. An argument was presented that we cannot simply change the definition of every word to avoid hurting people's feelings, but the issue is not the physical form a person was born in. Any attempt to define such a diverse race as humanity in such a black and white forms will utterly fail. The issue is our inability to accept a young girl joining the Girl Scouts because, underneath her clothes, she isn't the same as other girls.
This isn't about changing definitions. This isn't about messing with things that shouldn't be for the sake of keeping people from feeling hurt. This is about showing basic acceptance for someone who is a girl, and choosing not to deny anyone the rights to something gender specific on the basis of sex alone.
This is about Girl Scouts. Not Girl-By-Anatomy Scouts. Not Cis-Girl Scouts. Just Girl Scouts. The difference between sex and gender exists, whether some want to acknowledge its presence or not. This is not a world where actions are dictated solely by what you look like -- isn't that something we're trying to get away from?
In any case, while a controversial issue, it is a step forward. It is currently unknown how far this boycott will progress, but if you think the Girl Scouts have done the right thing, show your support. Of course, buying extra cookies is a good (and tasty) option, but you can also donate directly to the Girl Scouts of Colorado.
Of Sex & Gender: A Girl Scouts Story
-----------------------------------------
A few months ago, word broke of a seven-year-old transgender girl who wanted to join the Girl Scouts. At first the request was denied; the child was born male, and understandably there were some concerns about her being admitted into an all-girls program. However, they eventually said yes.
The issue of gender is a touchy one, so it was admirable for such a well-known organization to take such a progressive stance. Among the highly contested issues of our current time, LGBT rights is in the spotlight, so this could be seen as a victory for the progression of acceptance. The Girl Scouts released the following statement on the issue:
Of course, a decision like this was not made without resistance. A number of troop leaders resigned in protest, and more recently, a teen girl from California has started an effort to boycott Girl Scout cookies.
Of course, it's natural to bring in the safety issue when it comes to a controversial topic. Family and safety are two arguments used whenever there's a lack of substance otherwise, the implication apparently being that being transgender somehow poses a danger to other girls. Girl Scouts stated that they would take each request on a case-by-case basis to ensure that there was no abuse and that everyone would be safe, which is wise.
However, this brings to light an issue that hinders progression for transgender individuals: the apparent disregard for the difference between sex and gender.
A common argument against any person living a life opposite from the socially-defined norm pertaining solely to their anatomy involves the idea that a person's anatomy works as the sole definition to their person, so that any person who calls themselves anything other than their sex is 'not a real boy/girl.' This is a definition based on sex, but it fails to account for aspects of a person that are not controlled by their appearance.
So much emphasis is put on what a person looks like that issues like this attempt to define what a person can and cannot do based solely on their sex. An argument was presented that we cannot simply change the definition of every word to avoid hurting people's feelings, but the issue is not the physical form a person was born in. Any attempt to define such a diverse race as humanity in such a black and white forms will utterly fail. The issue is our inability to accept a young girl joining the Girl Scouts because, underneath her clothes, she isn't the same as other girls.
This isn't about changing definitions. This isn't about messing with things that shouldn't be for the sake of keeping people from feeling hurt. This is about showing basic acceptance for someone who is a girl, and choosing not to deny anyone the rights to something gender specific on the basis of sex alone.
This is about Girl Scouts. Not Girl-By-Anatomy Scouts. Not Cis-Girl Scouts. Just Girl Scouts. The difference between sex and gender exists, whether some want to acknowledge its presence or not. This is not a world where actions are dictated solely by what you look like -- isn't that something we're trying to get away from?
In any case, while a controversial issue, it is a step forward. It is currently unknown how far this boycott will progress, but if you think the Girl Scouts have done the right thing, show your support. Of course, buying extra cookies is a good (and tasty) option, but you can also donate directly to the Girl Scouts of Colorado.
The issue of gender is a touchy one
Have they no shame?
tl;dr - was it something about sluts with nuts?
Youve seen all the movies where the dude pretends to be a girl so he can go the slumber parties.
It's so dated - remember "Bosom Buddies" - i.e., how Tom Hanks, now Hollywood royalty, got his start?
And Peter Scolari pretty much was never heard from again...
Newhart, FFS? Not exactly comparable in scope, but pretty good in its own right.
Well I did say "pretty much" was never heard from again.
I never really did watch that show all that much.
What happened to him after that? Disappeared into oblivion, I guess?
Oh, you poor, naive child. Nothing ever goes out of date in Hollywood:
New series from ABC: Work It
Yup, I'm assuming that show's creators grew up watching Bosom Buddies and have decided enough time has passed to do a much shittier version of it.
tl;dr as well, but at first glance what is wrong with a private organization including and/or excluding membership based on whatever criteria they choose. I know freedom of association is a difficult concept for progressives, but, come on.
a seven-year-old transgender girl
I'm having a real hard time believing that any seven year old is "trans-gender."
It happens. She identifies as female. It's fairly rare at that age, and many children who do it are beaten until they either suffer a massive psychotic episode or learn to hide it and delay the psychotic episode for a few years, but it does happen.
That said, Girl Scouts of America wasn't forced to accept her, and shouldn't have been, but I'm happy for the kid that they did.
What the fuck does feelings have to do with it? I'm incoherent with rage about the idea that a 7yo (who only vaguely understand the idea of differences in gender) could be transgender.
Someone needs to check their transphobia. And that goes for RC Dean, too.
How dare you other us!
You're the one accusing Chuck Shumer of being a 7 year old Trannie!
TRAN-HATER!
TRAN-HATER!
Yeah, I didn't bother to read more than the first sentence.
Someone needs to check their transphobia.
Pretty sure this suffix doesn't mean what you think it means.
Suffix? I thought he simply added the prefix "trans" to the word phobia. You know, a fear that spans numerous incarnations or perhaps one that changes and is in a continual state of flux.
"-phobia" functions as a suffix, in addition to the noun "phobia." A proper, clinical phobia is persistent, irrational, and the sufferer will go to extreme lengths to avoid the object of their phobia. Some phobics cannot think about the thing without suffering a bout of severe anxiety.
My bad. I thought my sarcasm was obvious. I must be typing with the wrong hand.
I got no probs with trannies, Occupado.
I'm wondering if you have a projection issue, thought.
Better be careful with your microaggression there, you cis-gendered male dominating rapist!
Look, it's a 7 year old boy who likes to wear dresses and play with dolls, and if he prefers to hang out with girls, and the girls' group accepts him, i don't see the problem. Some boys grow out of that phase, some don't. Still not sure why it's relevant for this thread.
Still not sure why it's relevant for this thread.
New here?
"For a site called Reason ...."
Agreed.
Yep. I'm angry about people applying the idea of 'transgendered' to someone who pre-pubescent and not particularly gendered
I think your anger is a bit much. Some kids really do come to those conclusions on their own at a young age. Kids are plenty gendered. Have you not noticed that little boys and little girls are not the same (generally speaking)? I think it has to do with more than just ideas about gender (though some may disagree).
Sorry, but you can't convince me that sex and gender are separable before puberty. Honestly, my anger is more about the parents wanting everyone to bend over backwards for their special little flower. Guess what? Old boy (or girl if you prefer) is going to have a hard life if s/he's truly transgendered. Call me an asshole, but you might as well start showing him the honest consequences of his behaviors and let HIM decide if he wants to change his gender or his gender-identity.
I -still- prefer to hang out with girls. Am I a bad person?
I frequent sites like Memebase and Failblog. where there was a particular meme/rage comic that involved a guy unknowingly going on a date with a trans m2f person. Well, naturally, the guy got upset with finding out.
The pro-trans folks could not fathom why a heterosexual man would have a problem dating a trans m2f person.
Why, I myself have not only dated, but fathomed, many a trans m2f person.
So stoopid, it had to be posted twice.
First of all, it was a transgendered boy not a transgendered girl. HE has a penis.
And as far as that "Safety" BS, isn't that why Obama is forcibly shutting down all medical marijuana dispensaries... for safety of our children?
Let the Girls Scouts do what ever they want, let the outraged parents and former troop leaders try to organize their boycotts, and let the free market decide who survives.
(On a personal note, I don't give a damn if some little boy wants to live his life as a girl and couldn't give two shits about whether or not the Girl Scouts let him join. So long as they keep pumping out those boxes of Samoas I'll keep buying them from the little rugrats that hang out in front of Publix every year(regardless of their gender identification).
Fuck you.
I miss Publix. Kroger is okay, but it ain't no Publix.
Where are you that you miss Publix?
That company is growing like kudzu!
Kentucky. No Publix for me. We had Winn Dixie up here for about 30 seconds before all of the expansion stores here closed down, but no Publix yet.
I will do a fucking jig if we ever get a Publix.
Personally, I miss Piggly Wiggly. Not because they were a great grocery store or anything; I just loved the name.
Here's a tip: If you expect someone to actually read your bullshit you have to make your point concise enough that people will actually fucking read it.
word broke of a seven-year-old transgender girl
Wait, what? I think you might mean a pseudohermaphrodite.
There is probably no other elected official that draws from me more contempt and anger (there is a lot of competition for this title) than Nanny Chuck, this guy is awful.
Agreed. Feinstein tries her best though.
Boxer. She has all the ethics and good sense of Feinstein but makes up for it by being stupid.
If you take those two, Schumer the moron twins from Maine, Luger, Lindsey Graham, the bearded Marxist from Delaware, Orin Hatch, Patty Murry, McCain, fuck the Senate is a collection of losers.
Remember the good old days when Senators were state legislators or friends of the governor who managed to get a turn in DC? Whatever happened to that?
Direct election of Senators and campaign finance reform sure has improved the quality of our political class hasn't it?
Yes. Instead of getting local political operators, we get the well-heeled idiot sons (and daughters) of a given state's political dynasties.
Does anyone know if these things work?
Words?
I don't mean this to support the retard Schumer's stance; it's a question about physiology: Would breathing in the caffeine be a more effective method of getting the full benefit of each mg than drinking it?
I would imagine it would hit the blood stream faster.
Same reason you snort cocaine instead of eating it. Inhalation would also allow better dosage control, unless it's like a one shot and done deal.
unless it's like a one shot and done deal.
Even then, maybe some people like the effect of 2 or 3 instead of one. The company could release smaller-dose units to allow more control, etc
It sounds awesome.
"Drugs are bad because of the side-effects blah blah blah"
"We just developed an improved drug that provides the same benefits with reduced/eliminated side effects."
"I said, DRUGS ARE BAD, I don't need a reason, somebody raid that companies offices! RARRRRRRGHGHGHGHGHGH!!!!!"
Will someone please, please, PLEASE punch Chuck fucking Schumer right in the mouth, as HARD AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE? I mean, I want his jaw broken in at least four places so that it has to be wired shut for so long the bones fuse together and he can never flap his stupid gums again. Better yet, hit him hard enough that he suffers a brain hemmorhage and ends up confined to a chair, with a drool cup strapped to his head.
Have I mentioned the depth of my dislike and loathing for Chuck fucking Schumer?
If I ever were fortunate enough to receive the opportunity, I would.
I hope you know that Homeland Security is watching you...
Will someone please, please, PLEASE punch Chuck fucking Schumer right in the mouth, as HARD AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE? I mean, I want his jaw broken in at least four places so that it has to be wired shut for so long the bones fuse together and he can never flap his stupid gums again. Better yet, hit him hard enough that he suffers a brain hemmorhage and ends up confined to a chair, with a drool cup strapped to his head.
Have I mentioned the depth of my dislike and loathing for Chuck fucking Schumer?
Yeah, hit him twice, I don't care.
Fucking squirrels. I hope they bite his nuts off, too.
A couple of times.
That rage isn't barely suppressed.
Not when that fat, smugly superior, disingenuous, fucking piece of shit waste of human flesh Chuck the fuck Schumer is involved, no, it isn't.
Re: Chuckie
Could not agree moar.
THAT IDIOT NANNYSTATE COPROPHAGE MUST BE STOPPED.
a seven-year-old transgender girl
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Since inhaling alcohol vapors is A Bad Thing, then this must be A Bad Thing.
Democrats: All for freedom to live your life the way you want, but pretty much only if you're gay. Every other activity must be regulated.
Well, if you're a gay non-smoking teetotaling vegan, anyway.
an unemployed gay non-smoking teetotaling vegan.
a gay non-smoking teetotaling vegan who wants an abortion.
Now it is complete.
... you forgot Muslim
Countdown to scare story of girls soaking tampons in coffee in 3, 2, 1 ....
of fear that club goers might use it to party later into the night.
I'm sure a donation to Charles Schumer's reelection committee will ease the Senator's mind and permit him to go looking for hobgoblins elsewhere.
Hintidy, hint, hint.
That and I am sure Mrs. Schumer has a nice foundation or charity that she runs that would be happy to accept a donation.
Mrs. Schumer has a nice foundation
She lets me use it on special occasions.
Only when you let her suck your moobs.
Chuck Schumer, Peter King, Mike Bloomberg... what the hell's wrong with New York?
Nothing a little sleep wouldn't cure.
and how is the City That Never Sleeps expected to get a few winks every now and then WITH ALL THIS DAMN CAFFEINE EVERYWHERE!11oneoneone.
One of the few things that I regret that I have not done is a some extasy at a rave. I've never done either. Anyway, carry around a quart of water and one of these things. Or on a hike.
MDMA/MDA is pretty overrated. I think P.J. O'Rourke was spot on when he termed it "St. Joseph's Baby Acid".
Bring back STP!
Standard temperature and pressure?
No, not Stone Temple Pilots.
I think everyone should rate drugs in their own way. Not everyone wants an acid trip.
LSD's way better anyways. Well, except for the burn-out that feels 10x worse than any hangover I've ever had.
Just stick to shrooms.
The burn out where you are emotionally numb for days afterward is the best part.
Juan Valdez is *my* President
Juan Valdez probably grows coca, not coffee.
The only notable difference between coffee drinkers getting their fix in the morning after staying out too late and Aero Shot shooters ingesting breathable caffeine power in order to stay out a little later seems to be that Schumer wants to protect the former and prohibit the latter.
It's more nefarious than that -- Schumer wants the fractional slaves whose earnings he partially confiscates to use caffeine to get to work to earn money Schumer can spend, not to party late at night and thus be less productive the next day.
All I want to know is, "Can I freebase it?"
When do we ban stupid politicians?
They ought to go after this shitty Swedish coffee I just bought. Christ, does it suck. It's called "Gevalia". Don't buy it!
Did they get you to buy their shitty coffee maker too?
No. I use a Bunn. Makes a pot in about 3 minutes.
Same thing happened with my energy drink named Cocaine except the problem was the name, not the contents.
Is this like the people who wanted to have a little fun with cops by freebasing caffeine in public? There's nothing illegal about that anywhere to my knowledge. It just looks really illegal. You could do that, but you'd be playing with fire. The law doesn't really matter. If they want you in jail, you'll be there.
Sen. Chuck Schumer: America's Pants-Wetter-in-Chief.
I wonder if inhaled caffeine could treat asthma. That would be one reason to ban it right there.
No. It's not breathable. It's a powder dispenser that puffs into your mouth for you to swallow. Sounds disgusting. But it's just a dry energy drink. Schumer is even goofier here than Sudderman makes out.
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