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Herman Cain: "I am suspending my campaign."

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Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has suspended his campaign in the wake of charges of past sexual harassment and extramarital affairs—and increasing questions about his basic knowlege of U.S. politics and world affairs.

The Wash Post on his announcement.

For the record, we called this when Ginger White first went public.

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  1. Next year, as we await the coronation of Mittens, we’ll be missing the Pizzaman. His smiling face and incoherence would make me smile.

    1. We’ll be seeing his smiling face addressing the public as Secretary of Defense. I, too, will be chuckling, like a man clutching a log at open sea as the storm clouds roll in.

      1. Guys, the thread you’re about to read is an abomination. It is not worth reading, unless something hilarious happens at the end that I didn’t get to.

        1. Just to get a sense of what happens, Ctrl+F “Manic Rectal”.

        2. Guys, the thread you’re about to read is an abomination. It is not worth reading, unless something hilarious happens at the end that I didn’t get to.
          Your words are too kind.

    2. Hell, I’ll be missing Huntsman. brrr.

    3. Just a warning: I’ll be spamming this whole thread.
      Thanks, and enjoy the show.

      Love always,
      The Real Episiarch

  2. Well, that’s more debate face-time and media coverage for Romney and Gingrich I guess. I’m praying Ron Paul wins Iowa so the media can’t ignore him and he’ll get serious candidate status from the media.

    1. Why that’s just meshugeh

    2. Ron Paul could win the presidency and the media would ignore him.

      1. …”President Who will announce world peace tonight in a major address — All networks will run normal prime-time programs.”

        1. “Coverage is coverage no matter how small!”

          1. … said the bikini model

        2. EXTERMINATE!

        3. “In breaking news, after speaking with someone on the phone, President Obama said he will be leaving office in late January.”

      2. A few hours ago, I saw this in CNN ticker : “Gingrich first in Iowa, Romney falls to third”. Thats pure fucking statist assholery there.

  3. So, can Gary Johnson now step in in his place at debates?

        1. +infinity meeeee!

          1. +1 more me

            1. i’ll shit on your face and in your mouth.

              1. +1 more me

                1. Not that you care.

                  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                  1. +1 more! Keep ’em coming, rectal!

                    1. “Rectal”?

                      Swing and a miss!

                      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                    2. +2 me.
                      More! More!

                    3. Stop spoofing me you poopy-heads!

                      [sobs in Warty’s comfort pillow]

                    4. +20 me

                      Tell me about a swing and a miss again, rectal. It’s funny every time!

                    5. “rectal”

                      Steeeerike two!

                    6. +10 rectal

                    7. +10 home run for me!

                    8. Steeeerike three!

                      Ride the pine, loser!

                    9. +10 and it’s a double! He’s batting 1000 today!

                    10. These personal exchanges leave me dizzy!

                    11. +1 fish

                    12. -1 for spoofing me, rectal!

                    13. Not. +21 real me

      1. Clinton was the first black conservative president.

    1. Gary hasn’t fucked enough women on the side yet.

      1. He’s just getting started! Give him time!

        1. Home run!
          + me! Foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

            1. Oh stop it. +11 real me

        2. Is that part of his journey to every continent?

        3. Is that part of his journey to every continent?

      2. Typical libertarian bah

      3. better to just make your wife disappear

      4. I thought you fucked them in the front or back, not the side.

  4. The Jacket is now posting on weekends?

    1. Evidently.

  5. Not sure this is helpful for Ron Paul’s campaign. Was better to have the so-cons split their primary votes between Perry and Cain and Gingrich and Santorum. Now I think more will flock towards one of the three big so-cons and make them harder to beat in the primaries.

    OTOH, Cain’s departure means less competition, which is good in its own right.

    1. You make it sound like a zero sum game, rather than a battle of ideas and principles (such as they are).

      1. If it was a battle of principles then why are two unprincipled hacks the front runners?

        1. Newt’s got principles. He does whatever’s best for him. I can understand that.

          Make a commercial with Nancy Peolosi? Sure, why not.

          Do freelance consulting for Fannie/Freddie? Hells yeah!

          1. http://web.archive.org/web/200…..42407.html

            Gingrich: “Well, it’s not a point of view libertarians would embrace. But I am more in the Alexander Hamilton-Teddy Roosevelt tradition of conservatism. I recognize that there are times when you need government to help spur private enterprise and economic development.”

            1. Newt’s a progressive who supports the individual mandate. Forget it; non-starter.

            2. Sound check…

              Testing…1, 2, 3…Testing…

              Ahem.

              BLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

        2. Somebody has to be.

          1. (See also: tallest midget)

      2. I appreciate the comment.

        The battle for the hearts and minds of GOP primary voters was lost a long time ago. If you are ever on Free Republic (Btw I recommend you head over there now-the Cain threads are a hoot) you will see that the good majority of Team Red views Ron Paul as an “anti-semitic anti-American homosexual loving racist.” Do you think these folks are amenable to ideas and principles? Me neither. We need to focus on winning pure numbers in the primaries. If we can get the socon/neocon/whatever vote to split, perhaps Dr. Paul can win a few primaries and build momentum.

        Voters are a fickle bunch. Back in March, the overwhelming tide of support on FR, Towhhall, etc. was (I shit you not) for either Donald Trump or Sarah Palin.

        1. Ah, TEAM RED. Just as disgusting as TEAM BLUE, but in their own particular way.

          1. I dunno Epi, TEAM BLUE is pretty fucking repulsive. They may even out shithead the Stupid Party these days just through sheer mendacity and their foot soldiers’ desire to usher in a Forth Reich.

            1. When you say the Stupid Party, I’m unsure who you’re referring to. It could be either TEAM RED or TEAM BLUE. You need to be more specific.

              1. AFAIK Bill Buckley Jr. was the 1st to use the term, by which he meant the Republicans.

                1. I thought it was Sam Francis. The Demos were the evil party and the Repubs were the stupid party. Now of course we just have one stupid evil party.

              2. GOP is the Stupid Party

                Dems are the Evil Party

                1. That order could easily be reversed. Most Democratic voters stupidly believe that their politicians are just being nice to minorities and the poor when they are using them as political pawns, while Republicans luv ethnic profiling and gay bashing. I’d say it’s a draw. We have two stupid, evil parties.

                2. Ah, a program! Now I know the players.

              3. Excellent! Voting is dumb and pointless and a waste of time. Representative government is a myth. The people are stupid and disgusting! If only The Elite (you and I) could gain power…then we’d show ’em!

                But we’re the disinterested…
                Never mind.

                1. I’m interested in pooping on your face or in your mouth for $1.

                  1. Not that I care!

                    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                    1. +10 me

                      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

                    2. +11 the real me.
                      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                    3. +10 grounder to first base!

            2. The one thing Team BLUE has in favor is that they are openly statist scumbags.

              Team RED talks a good game about small government principles, but when it’s time to act they’re nothing but government goons themselves.

              I rue the day when armed conflict is afoot. I can’t with any good conscience side with liberals, conservatives, or the government.

              1. +1 asdads

                1. + another 10 me

                  1. + another 12 real me

              2. I can’t with any good conscience side with liberals, conservatives, or the government.

                Pick the side with the most guns.

                1. Most guns?

                  Or the best ones?

                  Because there is a difference?

                  Most guns would be conservatives, bar none.

                  The best ones would be the government.

                  Either way, I’m more along the lines of thinking of sitting out all of the action unless I am directly threatened at home (or wherever I may be).

                  1. If you don’t pick a side in a civil war, you are the target of all sides.

        2. Yes, I took a trip over there and found that which you describe.

          There are those neocons who earnestly believe that he who opposes more warfare and welfare for the Jewish state is he who is anti-semetic.

          1. Sad, isn’t it?

            1. Team Blue is hatin’ on him before the ink is dry, as well:

              http://www.democraticundergrou…..02×5078968

              I haven’t seen the phrase “House Nigger” in that DU thread, but then I didn’t read all of it, nor all of the Cain threads on DU… surely, someone there has said it, as that figures into their overall character.

              1. Feel free to substitute “Lawn Jockey” for house nigger. They use it ALL THE TIME when referring to a black person who deigns to NOT vote mindlessly for Team BLUE.

                And I’m supposed to believe that we’re the racist ones.

                1. House nigger = 1,320 results
                  Lawn jockey = 4,490 results

            2. RP’s popularity with actual anti-semites isn’t helping. Just go see the big wall of neo-Nazi commentary on the reason story about the RJC not inviting RP.

              1. For someone who professes to not be a bigot, you sure have a problem with black people.

                1. Just come out and use the word “racist”, Tony… since you can’t read a fucking dictionary, go for the words with the most gusto.

                  1. I don’t think that was Tony.

        3. The commenters at Free Republic are not a representative sample of Republican voters any more than the commenters at You Tube are a representative sample of humanity.

        4. Free Republic never got over the fact that they aren’t a big deal anymore for conservatives. I got banned there for saying a few nice things about Giuliani in 2007.

          1. Here, you would have been rightly mocked and ridiculed.

            1. They should have stuffed a plunger…no, just kidding.

          2. Why would you say anything nice about Giuliani?

            Well, I suppose you could say that at least he’s not Bloomberg, but that’s not much.

            1. I said he’d be better than McCain or something. It was definitely damning him with faint praise but they still reacted like I was suggesting Barney Frank for Pope.

              1. Hey, Barney and Benny do share a hobby.

        5. you will see that the good majority of Team Red views Ron Paul as an “anti-semitic anti-American homosexual loving racist.” Do you think these folks are amenable to ideas and principles?

          Sure they are. They hate Arabs and queers. As a matter of principle, Paul’s a non-starter.

      3. How silly of him.

    2. Ron Paul is a SoCon you dumbass. Why do you think he is doing so well in Iowa?

      1. SoCon who allowed gays in the military and is in favor of legalizing drugs? You don’t have a fucking clue dipshit.

        I’m quite sure if you polled evangelicals they’d find Paul too liberal on social issues with the exception of abortion.

        1. You make rocks look smart Jacob. Ron Paul represents a very conservative district in Texas and the evangelicals send him back to Congress every two years. The Iowa Caucuses are essentially a test of who is the most Christian Conservative, Paul is polling a very close second.

        2. I think there is a difference between having socially conservative values and being a social conservative in terms of government policy preferences.

          Paul has socially conservative values, but doesn’t see the federal government as a tool to force those values onto others.

          1. Who has more success forcing their values onto others with government force?

            SoCons or Progressives?

            One of the above political factions largely emerged in response to the other.

            1. I don’t disagree with that statement at all. But what does that have to do with Ron Paul being socially conservative?

              1. He holds socially conservative positions that appeal to socially conservative voters. There aren’t a bunch of atheist,fixed-gear bike riding, Whole Foods-shopping, cosmotarian pole-smokers putting him at the front in the Iowa caucuses.

                1. There aren’t a bunch of atheist,fixed-gear bike riding, Whole Foods-shopping, cosmotarian pole-smokers putting him at the front in the Iowa caucuses.

                  And since he doesn’t appeal to evangelicals, that simply proves your premise wrong. There are plenty of non-socons who are voting for Paul you fucking halfwit.

                2. There aren’t a bunch of atheist,fixed-gear bike riding, Whole Foods-shopping, cosmotarian pole-smokers putting him at the front in the Iowa caucuses.

                  And since he doesn’t appeal to evangelicals, that simply proves your premise wrong. There are plenty of non-socons who are voting for Paul you fucking halfwit.

          2. [Ron Paul] allowed gays in the military

            Paul … doesn’t see the federal government as a tool to force those values onto others.

            Contradiction.

            Progressives have craved the kind of power that the military indoctrination system has so that they can mold people’s attitudes as they see fit. Gays in the military is about gays in the military in the same way that legalizing medical marijuana is about legalizing medical marijuana.

            Gays in the military just gives progressives control over the military indoctrination system so that they can harass, bully and punish recruits, most of whom come from socially conservative families, into renouncing the values they were raised with … and Paul supported it.

            1. Worked pretty well vis-a-vis racism against blacks, so if this is really true, sounds like a good plan.

              1. If they don’t believe, make them believe.

              2. if this is really true, sounds like a good plan.

                It may be an effective plan, but it is not a good plan, at least not to a libertarian. Coercion is coercion and won’t stop with whatever your particular goals are.

                1. So was racial integration coercion to your mind? If not, why not and how is this different? From the perspective of 50 years in the future the current anti-gay lobby is going to look as in the wrong as those fellows in the bedsheets and pointy hats of yesteryear.

                  One could argue that exclusion is also coercion, no?

            2. A+ spoof

            3. Gays in the military just gives progressives control over the military indoctrination system so that they can harass, bully and punish recruits, most of whom come from socially conservative families, into renouncing the values they were raised with … and Paul supported it.

              So…the libertarian stance would have been to not allow gays to serve openly? Using your “logic,” would that not just punish the gays and give control to the socially conservatives so they could bully and punish gays?

              See how fucking stupid your argument is?

  6. Which remaining candidate will now claim to be black enough to beat Obama?

    1. me

      1. “Blackness” is not sexually transmitted, Michelle, regardless of what Glenn Rice told you.

        Or was that Palin?

        1. That was Palin. That was a “scandal” that revealed more about the publisher of the “scandal” than any of the participants. Rice, in particular, had very nice things to say about Palin when asked about it.

          Most of what I’ve read about Palin suggests she’s a decent human being, who unfortunately is politically naive, and was completely unprepared for the spotlight a vice-presidential run gave her. Maybe the spotlight has changed her in some not so good ways.

          But when you dig into someone’s past as much as hers has been dug into and come up with so little damning info, it generally speaks well of a person. Very few of us would come away as relatively unscathed under such a microscope.

          1. I assure you I wouldn’t come out looking as good as Palin.

            And as far as “unprepared” goes, the media zeroed in on her and gave Barry O and Crazy Joe a pass. Had they dug as deeply into their pasts as they did hers, they would have come across as poorly as she did.

            1. I’ll give you BO, but Biden’s foibles have been fairly public for the past couple of decades.

              1. Except that during the 2008 campaign, Biden’s foibles were cute and every error Palin made was the lede for the nightly news.

            2. It depends on what is meant by “looking good”.

              I openly embrace my past, all of it, and am not ashamed of anything in it, yet many would decry my having smoked a shitload of pot like it’s a bad thing.

              1. many would decry my having smoked a shitload of pot

                pass the fig, bogarter

                1. One can only bogart if weed is a zero sum game.

        2. Not me.

        3. Personally, I’m all about seeing some Sarah Palin in some interracial porn — that goes for Bristol, too.

          1. Hustler did a Palin “interpretation” video a couple of years ago. Unfortunately they cast one of the worst boob jobs in the universe in the Palin role.

            1. That’s so wrong, Tulpa. Tara Reid needs work like everybody else.

  7. Voting is merely participating in a rigged, bullshit game where you have no statistical effect but when you participate you give it legitimacy. Fuck that.

    1. +1 Rerun.

      Wait, what?

        1. Nope. +14 real me

  8. That quiz sucks, it’s based on sound bites instead of actual actions of the candidates (and I’m not just saying this because I got fucking John Huntsman, well maybe a litte)-

    1. If it makes you feel better, I’m a die-hard RP guy and I got Huntsman too.

    2. I got Johnson. Too bad I know ain’t up to the job.

      1. he ain’t

        1. Your opinion. I still think he’s the best gov NM has had (and I’ve been here since Mechem’s first term!).

          … Hobbit

          1. Hobbit. That’s a pretty low bar. But even if we took that at face value…Gov of NM is hardly President. Lots of city governments are larger and have more complex budgets than NM. Many large school districts have larger organizations.

            1. Lots of city governments are larger and have more complex budgets than NM.

              Difference in kind trumps difference in size. Guber experience is much, much closer to Prez than Mayoral.

              Many large school districts have larger organizations.

              School superintendent for Prez? ((shudder))

          2. I’ve been here since Mechem’s first term!

            Merrit or Edwin?

            ;^)

      2. “ain’t up to the job.”

        Compared to whom?

          1. Me. Let Behind.

  9. I think Herman Cane is briliant!

  10. Well, shit… the libs are the biggest winners here. They can lie to themselves about it, but they were afraid Cain might – emphatically might – be the challenger to Barry the Jaunty Future King, and Gaia knows they’d be soooo pissed about having more than one black person on the ticket.

    How they tolerated Cynthia McKinney, is most puzzling. (speaking of racist Jew-haters… she has Ron Paul beat by several light-years on those points.)

    I also don’t buy the “Cain wasn’t too bright” argument. Was Obama an expert in foreign and domestic affairs?

    Not that I want Team Red to win anymore than I want Team Blue to win, mind you…

    1. For a non-bigot you sure are obsessed with people’s skin color.

      1. Nice try, Tony.

        Of course you won’t admit how nervous your Team was about the prospect of two black men at the top of the Team tickets, because you’re a disingenuous schmuck who can’t read a dictionary entry properly.

        1. Just for a refresher:

          http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

          See how easy it is to get the right info before implying facts not in evidence?

          1. I’ll even help narrow it down for you:

            especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

            You went to college… surely, you can read a sentence and comprehend it.

          2. No polling suggested that Hermain Cain was a threat to Obama, especially among black voters. Republicans may have used Herman Cain in an inept attempt to fool black voters, but ask any Democrat and he’ll say he imploded spectacularly way too early.

            But it’s nice to know that black people in the minds of the GOP have graduated from being a subject of contempt to easily manipulated political pawns.

            1. “No polling suggested that Hermain Cain was a threat to Obama, especially among black voters. Republicans may have used Herman Cain in an inept attempt to fool black voters, but ask any Democrat and he’ll say he imploded spectacularly way too early.”
              Uh,”For a non-bigot you sure are obsessed with people’s skin color.”
              Shithead.

              1. 🙁

                1. +2 sevo.

                  Wait, what?

                    1. +12 real me

              2. da, tovarisch, our Soviet political officer SEVO is a friend of Stalin and knows shitheads worthy of the gulag

            2. Yeah, they made that step in the minds of Democrats decades ago. And have remained there.

            3. I didn’t mention polling results… just the mere outside chance of a Cain v Obama tussle was enough to send Team Blue into spasms.

              You’re doing it now, and you don’t even realize it.

              Then again, you can’t interpret dictionary entries properly, so I guess you missed the day they covered that skill in college.

            4. But it’s nice to know that black people in the minds of the GOP have graduated from being a subject of contempt to easily manipulated political pawns.

              The Plan

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plan_(Washington,_D.C.)

        2. They threw out terms like “Aunt Jemima” at me, and I never seriously considered running.

          1. I got you beat, Condi… I’ve never even considered running for President, and you should read the shit the left says about me.

            1. I didn’t know they acknowledged your existence.

              1. My colonoscopy got 6,000,000 hits on YouTube! Pikers.

            2. I’ve got fucking VOLUMES written about me being a race traitor.

              1. And we wrote virtually ALL of it!

              2. which I am

      2. Make the accusation – even better when there is no solid proof – then run and hide.

        Works every time!

    2. Well he was so good at diplomacy and world peace and stuff that he won the Nobel Peace Prize for…some stuff.

      1. Too bad I died, though, eh?

    3. “Cain wasn’t too bright.”

      “You’re bright enough, Herman.”

      Actually, intelligence was not the problem at all. Ignorance was. He appeared too ignorant on too many issues.

  11. When I took this survey the 1st time, 2-3 mos. ago, it picked Romney for me; now, Johnson.

  12. The thing that struck me most, even though it was already pretty common knowledge among non-progressives, was the sheer number of liberals that genuinely believed he was a house-nigger-type, a pawn duped into serving Republican racism, and even a race traitor.

    Now that he’s out, expect Obama to start going all folksy WITH THEM GOOD FOLK OVER IN HAW-LEM when the true campaigning comes around — you’ve GOT to appeal to the white-guilt and affirmative action crowds!

    1. Raaaaaacist!

    2. They said the same thing about Colin Powell and Clarence Thomas. Team Blue types really do feel betrayed when one of “their” votes goes to Team Red.

      1. The word “uppity” sure comes to mind.

        1. Dog-whistle!

        2. Yeah, the uppity negro that strays from the progressive path that’s good and right for all men is clearly a fucking moron and too independent and needs to be put back down through reverse-racism.

          That would be funny, except that’s what many people actually believe. The world, eh?

          1. That is an excellent summation of Herman Cain.

            1. Good riddance to house-nigger rubbish.

              1. Wanna make it a three-way? I stole my mom’s strap-on!

                1. I’ll bring the lube, and we can have a four-way.

                  1. I assume Tony was a spoof. Dirk and musturd, I’m not so sure about.

                    1. Spoken like a true Christ-fag, sloopy.

                    2. Externalities!

                    3. ARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARFARF

                    4. +1 sloopy

                    5. hang on poopy

                    6. -12 Poet etc.

                      Wait, what?

                    7. Please. +11 reaql me

  13. “Yo bitch I’m gonna slap you up” should have been his motto back then. Cain has proven he really is a plantation negroe and not the strong pimp hand America needs at this time.

  14. It’s interesting that the Women 4 Cain picture has 4 women in it. Are they the 4?

    1. Then they’re the last four women in America who do not have access to the MSM.

    2. They are hand picked interns. Who says he did’nt learn anything from Clinton?

  15. Now which big government republican will I vote for?

    1. Even though he and the Paultards claim the opposite.

      1. I should really just use my real name when I post here.

        1. C’mon…just one more mile……and you are…The Biggest Loser!

          1. Now I’m arguing with myself. Mom was right… I have issues.

            1. Now if we just get her dessicated carcass out of the crawlspace without anyone the wiser I can continue my walkabout with Gamboling to the Oldies!

              Officer am I free to mince around and refer to myself as Tina?

              1. Deregulate the Nanny State!

                Who wants to be autonomous and sovereign?

                “Historically, people in non-state societies are relatively autonomous and sovereign. They generate their own subsistence with little or no assistance from outside sources. They bow to no external political leaders. Nor are they routinely exploited by outsiders.”

                ~Elman Service
                NON-STATE AND STATE SOCIETIES
                http://faculty.smu.edu/rkemper…..ieties.pdf

                Or would you rather submit to the agricultural city-Statist’s collective?

                Funny how I’m for big-government gambol lockdown deregulation.

                And Fibertards aren’t.

                1. ^^Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs^^

                  1. Pshaww you can’t grow cocoa puffs without the ag state.

                  2. you’re a loser, poet

                    1. +7.235 OODA

                      Wait, what?

                1. +1 million me

  16. I took the quiz again and I got RP again.

    1. DOS THAT MAKE U SAD

  17. And it’s a good thing Cain dropped from the race.

    1. How so, OM? Now there’s a bunch of professional criminals running against Ron Paul and Gary Johnson for the GOP figurehead.

      1. Re: Mr. FIFY,

        Now there’s a bunch of professional criminals running against Ron Paul and Gary Johnson for the GOP figurehead.

        Correction: There’s one LESS professional criminal running against RP and GJ.

        Cain was a FED chairman – by definition, a career criminal.

      2. Whereas I’m just a professional sexual harasser.

        1. I’m not quite willing to call Cain a criminal… misguided, perhaps, for having a government job…

  18. Too bad Newt married all of the women he was having affairs with. I’d like to see him get Cain-ed by the media, too.

    1. Oh rest assured it’s coming!

      Who described Newcular as having more baggage than JFK….the airport not the previous president.

      1. I still masturbate to pictures of John Edwards.

        1. Technically, I could marry all of Newt’s ex-wives…

          1. The terrorist moooooooslims have really won, haven’t they?

          2. I should be able to marry Newt and his ex-wives.

  19. Herman only suspended so that he can pick up his federal matching funds check next year.

    Thanks for that last fuck, Herm!

    1. …unless he gets back in the race, or is picked as a VP, or runs third-party…

  20. For the record, we called this when Ginger White first went public.

    Woowoo! One hell of a call, guys.

    1. Herman never came to me for advice, and now he’s paying for it.

  21. What a pussy! If he can’t handle a few personal accusations, true or false, how’s he going to deal with the stress of the Presidency? Good riddance.

    1. I’m just sitting here in my mansion, waiting for the public to forget how I fucked over my ailing wife, so I can get back into politics and remind the public how there are two Americas and how evil rich people are.

      1. Where y’all screwed up, John and Herman, is… you gotta get elected and THEN have the really big affairs!

        1. You guys are pikers. I paid whores to yell at me while I shit my diapers and still got reelected.

        2. So much for the intern program he had planned!

  22. Will nobody think of what happens to the cigarette smoking guy from the ads?

    1. They’re making another X-Files movie?

  23. Oh God Hunstman is all that’s left now.

    Cain said his campaign was ‘suspended’. Is he just gonna come back when some more putzes blow up and be the anti-Romeyites white knight?

    1. Voting is merely participating in a rigged, bullshit game where you have no statistical effect but when you participate you give it legitimacy.

      Discuss.

      1. Why don’t we actively participate in rigging the game by supplying free market bullshit to the discussion like “unlimited corporate bribery of politicians = free speech.” Then let’s bitch about how rigged the game is.

          1. +20 for me!

            1. + infinity everybody!

                1. Hardly. +32 real me

        1. How about “unlimited union bribery”? You okay with that, Jason?

          1. Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2012
            http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?order=A

            They’re all city-Statists.

            Just like you, Mr. FIFY.

            1. Joson! Stop pestering these people.

    2. White knight. I see what you did.

  24. Good old TSA. Making sure it’s never a dull news day in America.

    The cocksuckers.

    1. FTA: “”Our screening procedures are conducted in a manner designed to treat all passengers with dignity, respect and courtesy,” Farbstein said.”

      Strip-searching a 107 lb octagenarian without consent is dignified? respectful? courteous?

      1. “I was outraged,” said Zimmerman, a retired receptionist.

        Retired when her boss shot himself as the Soviets bore down on his bunker, probably.

        1. I’m more likely to think she hid in an attic during the war.
          Octogenarian New Yorker who spends winters in Florida? Pretty sure she’s Jewish without even seeing her Cadillac or her son’s Park Avenue.

    2. “Good old TSA under Democrat rule

      FIFY’d for clarification. No charge.

  25. You really can’t beat The Onion’s headline: “Rumors Of Extramarital Affair End Campaign Of Presidential Candidate Who Didn’t Know China Has Nuclear Weapons”

    1. Or what the fuck is a libya.

      1. Or even where U-beki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan is located.

  26. I used to think Gary Johnson didn’t have a chance at the nomination because of his pro-choice position. But since Herman Cain’s stance on abortion was totally incoherent, his support with conservatives was puzzling.

    Or maybe I just don’t know what the fuck anymore.

    1. Or conservatives just assumed he was pro-life, just like lefties projected their own positions onto Obama. It is easy to do that when you don’t have any really policy ideas besides 9-9-9 and Hope and Change.

  27. If you film me beating someone then I will beat you as well, and then go wit the stand-alone “resisting arrest” charge.

    But broken ribs heal, so the guy should stop bitching.

    1. Now, you don’t have all the facts, so you can’t jump to any conclusions.

      fwiw

      You have to wait to hear all sides of the story, after a thorough investigation.

      iirc

      If he isn’t charged then you’ll know he didn’t do anything wrong.

      [stupid random internet abbreviation only used by teenagers]

      It’s the legislature’s fault for not specifically passing a law saying that resisting arrest is a beatable offense; it’s really their fault, and it’s unfair that you expect us to use any kind of independent moral judgement.

      lmfao

      I’ve said a thousand times, if the guy is guilty then he should be prosecuted. RULE OF LAW AND EQUALITY UNDER THE LAW FOR MY BROTHERS IN BLUE. I believe in equality under the law; you’re just a bigot. I know, because I’m not a bigot, so if I call you one, that means your opinion is invalid.

      hth

      1. Holy hog balls! That’s an excellent spoof.
        +1 get out of jail free card

        1. *bows* Thank you, thank you.

        2. too many capitals letters

      2. The only thing you did wrong was use upper case letters at the beginning of each sentence.

      3. That was beautiful.

        (*wipes away tear*)

        … Hobbit

      4. troll-o-meter = 0.000001 fwiw
        lol

        hth

        1. +100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 for me!

          1. -1000000000000000000000 infinity meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

              1. Wrong-o. +30 real me

      5. it’s a poor spoof especially considering the fact that the UC davis cops were clearly justified based on the latest video, when everybody – EVEN ME were willing to call it excessive force. granted, i qualified it with – BASED on what i saw in the video, but still…

        this sounds like a sloopy post since he’s so butthurt from being so soundly bitchslapped that he has to troll with somebody else’s name

        here.. what ACTUALLY happened at UC Davis leading up to the pepper spraying

        yet another case of alleged police brutality vindicated by video evidence

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhPdH3wE0_Y&sns=fb

        of course the bigorati won’t watch this video and reassess based on a much more complete picture…

        god forbid…

        1. Giving verbal warning that you are going to commit brutality does not amount to justification for the brutality. Pepper spraying people for failure to follow unlawful orders is not justified, and the fact that you think it is is just pathetic. Stop trying to defend the indefensible, admit that the police fucked up, and you might have some credibility.

          1. Except the orders weren’t unlawful.

        2. All that video confirmed is that the cops were a bunch of giant pussies. Unlike some of the other situations there was absolutely no violent conduct by the protesters. It was textbook non-violent resistance. The editor of the video seems to believe that if you are warned that you will be brutalized then that makes it ok. So what if they were surrounded, wait it out, or step over them, or lock arms and walk out. Let the protesters do something violent first.

          I will say this though the protesters got exactly what they wanted. Doesn’t mean that the cops had to give it to them.

          1. Cops are always wrong. Protestors can prevent cops from doing their jobs. I hate cops.

            1. He said no such thing. He said that warning someone you’re going to use violence against them doesn’t make that violence excusable. The dishonesty you’re displaying says as lot.

              1. I hate cops too. Filthy copseses.

                1. It’s very likely your local community college offers remedial reading courses.

              2. Mad Scientist, that’s not all Apatheist said. He claims the protesters were being “nonviolent”, which is false. If one believes in property rights, refusing to leave upon being ordered to do so by agents of the property owner is an act of violence.

                1. Please elaborate for me who the property owner was here Tulpa? Even if you argue that a public campus is different then the students would be included in those people allowed to be there. Of all the Occupy “settlements” the ones on college campuses are the ones that least need to be cleared.

          2. It was textbook non-violent resistance.

            If a person is lying down across an aisle of a grocery store, blocking people from pushing their carts, and the manager asks them to get up and leave, is that “non violent resistance”?

            1. Yes because a person in a private grocery store is the same as a student on a public campus. Derp.

              1. Yes because a person in a private grocery store is the same as a student on a public campus. Derp.

                Can all publicly owned place be occupied indefinitely or only UCs?

                If the former, someone should pitch tents in the Congressional buildings and White House.

                1. I would argue that the students should be able to occupy their own campus yes. Besides what was being debated here was whether the pepper spraying was justified not whether the the tents should have been cleared out. This is an important distinction because the tents had already been cleared out without incident. This was after that.

            2. And yes it would be non-violent resistance. It would still be resistance and trespassing but not violent.

              1. All non-violent resistance is allowed. My friends and I could form a human chain around a cop, working in shifts to eat and sleep. The cop would have to remain passive, taking no action as he slowly died of thirst.

                I hate cops. They are always wrong. Everything they do is wrong. But if a burglar breaks into my house at night, I’ll still pee my pants with fear, dial 911 and expect the cops, whom I hate and denigrate any chance I get, to show up to protect me.

            3. If a person is lying down across an aisle of a grocery store, blocking people from pushing their carts, and the manager asks them to get up and leave, is that “non violent resistance”?

              Yes, actually that is the definition of non-violent resistance. Violent resistance would mean they initiate force.

              That doesn’t change the fact that they are trespassing, but they are absolutely being non-violent.

    2. The cop actually tried to defend himself by saying he had to punch the man in the face because the guy hid his hands underneath his body. Wow, just wow.

  28. There is no such thing as a double standard!!! Police routinely reduce driving while hopped up on pills charges and hit and run to “wet and reckless” and routinely allow people to get a change of clothes before booking (because it “wouldn’t have been safe to book him in his police uniform”),

    Oh, you’ll all be happy to know he was placed on **cough** paid **cough** administrative leave and given alternative duties since he wasn’t allowed to drive.

    1. ISOLATED INCIDENTZ!!!111!!!1111

      1. He’ll be here soon to comment on my post and accuse me of stalking him.

        1. weak

          1. stalking really isn’t the issue.

            not being able to assess evidence fairly, like in the UC davis video (new video) here…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhPdH3wE0_Y&sns=fb

            i get it. you are butthurt. you don’t like cops.

            and it affects your ability to be rational and fairminded.

            i called the case UNJUSTIFIED based on what i saw in the video. new evidence ? reassess.

            otoh, you don’t care about facts. you trot out “initiation of force” etc. when that is clearly not the issue under the UOF (not to mention that if a cop has arrestees in custody and is trying to get them from the scene he has a duty to the arresteee as well as himself to get the fuck out of there safely and if you encircle him and claim you won’t let him leave unless the cop releases the arrestee and yuo are given multiple warnings and you refuse to abide by them… you are in the wrong. the cop is in the right.)

            1. Honestly, the protestors should’ve had sniper cover. If they had given the cops warnings before opening fire, I’m sure Dunphy would be ok with it.

              1. I hate cops and I don’t think.

              2. Brandon, you’re either trolling or a moron. The solution is the same either way.

            2. I’m gonna say this one more time, dunphy, and maybe you’ll grasp my point.

              The cops sprayed people who were not penning them in, were not violently resisting and were totally inactive. Had they tried to leave and sprayed protesters that actively engaged in penning them in, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. But that’s not what they did, which is clearly evidenced by the fact that you can see cops walking freely in front of as well as behind the people being sprayed.

              What the cops did was go after the softest (and incorrect) target in an attempt to instill fear in the people who were actually doing what the cops accused them of (in this case, hemming them in).

              And I’m shocked that you haven’t come up with a single comment on the two links I posted. Having to actually admit there is abuse and a double-standard is a bitch. Well, admitting that the double-standards or abuse are wrong is a bitch anyway.

              1. But that’s not what they did, which is clearly evidenced by the fact that you can see cops walking freely in front of as well as behind the people being sprayed.

                You really are a fuckstick, sloopy. The cops on one side were coming from a paddywagon OUTSIDE the area that the protesters were surrounding. You can’t possibly be too stupid to have noticed that in the video so I’ll just assume you’re deliberately spouting falsehood. They were NOT the same cops who were trapped inside. No cops crossed between the outside of the human circle and the inside until they used the required force.

                1. So that must be a ghost I see walking behind the people seated when Pike is hosing them down. And he was there before he started the spraying.

                  I’m not saying the assholes surrounding the cops don’t deserve to have force applied. I am saying that the force was completely unnecessary against the people passively resisting on their asses with cops freely walking in and out of them (both to the front and rear).

                  I will repeat this slowly: Force was not needed against the people it was used against. It may have been justified elsewhere in the protest, but the people getting sprayed initiated no force, were passively resisting and went readily (if limp) when they were dragged away.

                  1. The people were seated facing OUTWARD, with their backs to the police who were being corralled. This fact is obvious from watching the video if you weren’t so desparate to find something to bitch at the police over.

                    Take your own vulgar advice that you’ve been spewing on both threads and “watch the fucking video” before claiming you have evidence of others being wrong.

                2. From MW: Definition of VIOLENCE

                  1
                  a : exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse (as in warfare effecting illegal entry into a house)

                  What physical force did the seated people exert?

                  1. Under Tulpa’s definition of violence Ghandi and the civil rights protesters in the 60s were violent. Sitting in a line linking arms is about as non-violent as it gets. The purpose of this is to get the authorities to overreact and initiate violence thereby inspiring sympathy in the public. You would think that campus police officers in this day and age would have figured that out.

                    1. Sitting in a line linking arms is about as non-violent as it gets.

                      They weren’t in a line, they were in a circle. Around a group of people who wanted to leave the area. While not the dictionary definition of violence, it is an act of coercion.

                    2. The people they sprayed were in a line. The people surrounding the cops in a menacing fashion may have deserved getting sprayed, but the kids sitting with their arms locked did not. The cops chose to spray the people they sprayed in order to intimidate the others who were surrounding them.

                      Watch this video. If they had him surrounded, why is he stepping from the back of the line of protesters to the front in the first second of the video?

                      C’mon, Tulpa. You’re smarter than this.

                    3. The people they sprayed were in a line.

                      Just like the ground appears flat…but the Earth is a sphere. The people who got sprayed were part of one segment of arc of a much larger circle.

                      That’s one cop; it would have been impossible for them all to cross that way, particularly while transporting prisoners.

                    4. Ghandi was violent. He encouraged violence if he saw it as useful to achieving his goals. The image of Ghandi as a strict pacifist is a myth.

                      Some of the civil rights protesters in the 60s advocated violence and were violent. Some of them favored a bloody revolution to completely change American society. The image that all of the civil rights protesters of the 60s were peaceful, well-intentioned individuals bravely fighting for a just society is a myth. It is dangerous when people start believing the fantasy images that construct about themselves, hippie.

                    5. And you can bet the budding liberals who will write future history books will treat OWS the same way. And the Tea Party as 21st century brownshirts.

                    6. And you can bet the budding liberals who will write future history books will treat OWS the same way. And the Tea Party as 21st century brownshirts.

                      They already are. Note the way they are being portrayed in real-time by the NYT, WaPo and various TV outlets except FoxNews.

                    7. Um, only an abject moron would say the 60’s protesters were entirely peaceful. ’68 DNC? Bill Ayers?

                      And none of us are saying violence should not be met with force. What I’m saying here is that the cops used violence against non-violent protesters in this case…while it looks like there are violent protesters all around them where the same actions would have been completely justified.

                      Are some of you just hell-bent into thinking many of us are against police use of force in every situation?

                    8. The key word in your sentence is “some” which doesn’t change anything I said because I didn’t say “every” protester. I haven’t constructed any image of myself because I have never participated in any protest of this nature because I think they are a waste of time. I also think that the occupiers are largely a bunch of entitled retards. This doesn’t mean I want them to be pepper sprayed like this.

                      Sloopy is right, you can see in the video that the protesters who actually got sprayed could be and were just stepped over. There weren’t any bottles or rocks flying through the air. They weren’t fighting back.

                  2. So when a prowler walks onto your property at 2 AM and stands staring into your kids’ rooms windows, you have no right to expel him by force, since he’s not using violence by M-W’s definition.

                    1. He is trespassing. He needs to be removed with the force required That level of force needs to be determined by his actions.

                    2. So you’re saying that nonviolent activity can be justifiably opposed with force?

                    3. Not at all. I said the level of force used to remove him should be determined by his actions.

                      If the cops show up to remove him and he sits down and holds his arms out, does he deserve to be beaten or just cuffed? The answer is cuffed.

                      Conversely, if he takes an offensive stance and balls his fists, he deserves to probably be subdued.

                      Like I keep saying, these were not the people who probably deserved to be sprayed. That’s not to say that others should not have been, but they got the wrong guys.

                    4. So what level of force would you have considered appropriate to clear the path?

                    5. Drag their limp bodies to the paddywagon. Which is what the protesters wanted them to do in the first place and what ultimately happened.

                      Then, they could have used the requisite amount of force on the cocksuckers that actually were penning them in.

                    6. That’s the same level of force, perhaps a greater one. Dragging bodies to a paddywagon is likely to result in greater injury than a dose of pepper spray.

                    7. How is pulling their limp body across grass likely to result in injury?

                      Or two cops carrying them (hands and feet) is more likely to result in injury that spraying them in the face with a chemical agent that is designed to cause physical discomfort?

                      Sorry, but I’ve been dragged by a cop or two in my life, always limp, and have never once suffered an injury.

        2. He’s out with his wife, Morgan Fairchild.

    2. i’ve never said there is no such thing as a double standard.

      again, the canards because you’re butthurt. how childish can you be sloopy?

      personal attacks because you have nothing

      sigh

      1. Nothing? I guess you didn’t read either of the two links I posted above.

        And every “scumbag cop beats citizen” or “crooked cop enforces rules unequally” story I post isn’t directed at you. You’re just not that important.

        BTW, Jim claimed the spoof of you above. Your paranoia caused you to assume it was me even when someone else claimed the post.

  29. That fucker still hasn’t replaced my smashed pizza. Fuck him.

    1. Wants to rule your Pizazz.

  30. ? I’ve captured the deregulation term, and spanked you with it.
    ? I’ve captured the sovereign individual term, and spanked you with it.
    ? I’ve captured the Statist! term, and spanked you with it.
    ? I’ve captured the big-government term, and spanked you with it.
    ? I’ve captured the Nanny-State term, and spanked you with it.
    ? I’ve captured the enTITLEment term, and spanked you with it.

    Deregulate the big-government Land enTITLEment program so that free families of sovereign individuals can live in a Non-Statist sociopolitical typology lifeway to forage freely.

    And no, Old Poodle, we don’t need your Nanny-Statism to tell us how horribly dangerous it is to live as free as squirrels, dolphins, and crows.

    And you still have no idea what OODA Loop means. LOL

    1. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      1. But it’s a better line than found in Full Metal Jacket’s last half.

          1. …not to “economics,” but to Episiotomy Points.

            Is this the second grade of a skool in an agricultural city-statist society? Or the first?

              1. All of life is reduced…

                …not to “economics,” but to Episiotomy Points.

                Is this the second grade of a skool in an agricultural city-statist society? Or the first?

                Being the first, does this make Episiotomy primitive?

              2. +1 for me!

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          2. +2 for me!

            1. That’s like +100 me.

              1. Not. +119 real me

    2. You have your ranges and preserves protected by your armed Federal Employees who bar access to those you dislike. thanks for nothing…..

      1. …Cops still enforcing Gambol Lockdown. They call it “Privation Property” rights.

          1. …not to “economics,” but to Episiotomy Points.

            Is this the second grade of a skool in an agricultural city-statist society? Or the first?

            Being the first, does this make Episiotomy primitive?

              1. All of life is reduced…

                …not to “economics,” but to Episiotomy Points.

                Is this the second grade of a skool in an agricultural city-statist society? Or the first?

                Being the first, does this make Episiotomy primitive?

          2. +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 for me!

            1. Another +50 for me. I am all win here.

              1. Nope. +52 real me

        1. Ok Pee-Wee.

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                  1. LOL

                    COMPETITION VS. COOPERATION
                    By Perry W. Buffington, Ph.D.

                    Which works better, competition or cooperation? The answer, without equivocation, is cooperation. Although most people are surprised by this, scientists have repeatedly verified it in hundreds of studies since the late 1800s. Yet big business, the educational system, the health-care community, and most parents continue to encourage competition, almost totally neglecting the power of cooperation. None of these groups realizes that unabated competition may be costing billions of dollars in sales and overall decreases in human achievement. Furthermore, researchers have shown that too much competition may cause poor health. health….

                    http://www.charleswarner.us/articles/competit.htm

                    1. Re: White Imbecile,

                      Which works better, competition or cooperation?

                      WI while crying like a little girl: Please cooperate guys! I can’t fend on my own in this “original affluent society” I so much love! Please guys! Don’t leave me heeeeere! *sob* *sob*

                    2. Deary, it’s just too dangerous out there!

        2. your cover is pulled.

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                    1. LOL

                      COMPETITION VS. COOPERATION
                      By Perry W. Buffington, Ph.D.

                      Which works better, competition or cooperation? The answer, without equivocation, is cooperation. Although most people are surprised by this, scientists have repeatedly verified it in hundreds of studies since the late 1800s. Yet big business, the educational system, the health-care community, and most parents continue to encourage competition, almost totally neglecting the power of cooperation. None of these groups realizes that unabated competition may be costing billions of dollars in sales and overall decreases in human achievement. Furthermore, researchers have shown that too much competition may cause poor health. health….

                      http://www.charleswarner.us/articles/competit.htm

                    2. JUST LIE DOWN AND DON’T FIGHT IT. IT WON’T HURT MUCH. COOPERATE AND I WON’T KILL YOU. self-defense is classified as competition (not allowed). fuck!

                    3. your WalMart stock holdings?

                      “…billions of dollars of sales…”

                    4. Public School Employee…on Amazon one of his products is #396,782 in Books. Jeez, is that the cause of his stress?

                    5. I’m moving on up, elbowing others outta the way!

                    6. Competition with the government should be illegal!

                    7. Not even my wife knows who I am.

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                    9. any day, yippy snippy

                    10. ….Snappy.

    3. OODA loop? Oh yeah…the thing you cinch up at the base of your unit that keeps the blood in so you can function sexually!

    4. What the fuck ever, Jason Godesky.

  31. It’s like a superior American pilot in a superior-turning MiG.

    Imagine that combo.

    1. Not the 8th best American Shitzza CEO who rily, rily wants to be Prez.

    2. I wouldn’t fly in any aircraft built in Russia.

  32. Cain should have left at the latest after the interview about Libya.

  33. Hopefully Hustler has a XXX parody out in time for Christmas, because I’m all out of gift ideas.

    1. That’s an awfully short time to dig up some male performers.

      1. +1 for me!

          1. Negative. +13 real me

  34. Well, Cain might need to come out with an updated version of his book so he can sell more copies. After all, his entire campaign looked more like a book tour than one for the Presidency.

    1. Spell Saggin’ (pants) backwards.

  35. Actually, I would just love a Presidential (or even Congressional Candidate) to say “Yep. I fucked ’em. And a bunch of others you haven’t spoken to yet. I’m a horny SOB and I’ll keep on being a horny SOB when I get into office.”

    1. …need to follow agriculturalist city-Statists hierarchy, as follows:

      ? JEHOVALLAH
      ? MAN
      ? WOMAN (submits to husband)
      ? ANIMALS (submits to husbandry)
      ? NATURE (worthless outside use for MAN)

      Liberards ain’t much different philosophically (love of sophistry) than teh mullahs of per-per-per-sia.

      (Iran = Persia for da rilly slow sows.)

      1. Shut up, Godesky.

        1. +1 for me!

            1. Nien. +11 real me

      2. Yes. It was item 4 that eventually drove my brother from the tribe. We just couldn’t keep him away from the ponies.

        1. It wasn’t so much the bestiality the troubled the elders it was just that White Indians immense bulk ruined the horse for any useful activities when he was finished.

          1. +1 for me!

              1. Uh-uh. +12 real me

        2. +1 for me!

          1. Oh look someone learned a new word….and it’s vagina related.

            1. +50 for me!

              1. I guess that’s +30 me.

                1. Nope. +40 real me

      3. …going to vote again for Obomba, since he seems to want to killer-drone the mullahs. He has improved upon the Bush bomb-and-heavily-occupy model to a deadlier no-fly-killer-drone model. Leitmotif = Regime Change

        1. +1 for me!

          1. +(1^-1)

            1. Preferable.

              1. And +40 me.

                1. And +50 real me

      4. Re: White Imbecile,

        . WHITE IMBECILE (Submits to bear about to fuck him while WI cries like a little girl.)

        1. you know what it means

          Sanitorum for Old Poodles.

          they can lick their own balls, and shit

      5. What the fuck ever, Jason Godesky.

    2. What is this, Italy?

      1. +1 for me!

        1. +2 for me!

          1. +20 me.

            1. +19 real me

    3. That would only work with a gay canidate. It’s a group rights thing. Or a group sex rights thing.

      1. you know what it means

    1. +10 for me!

      1. Sweeeeeeet, I’m on the board! +1 for Banj

        1. +1 for me +1 for me!

          See how altruistic benevolent I am?!?!?!?!?!?!

          1. Woohoo, another one for me!

            1. you’re losing, not that it gives me any pleasure

              1. +(2^-1)

                1. What’s this OODA loop shit anyway, and why am I losing?

                  1. The last poster evidently wins.

                    1. Ha! I made a pun!

                    2. Uhh…+70 for me?

                    3. No. +23 real me

    2. I’m walking out the door, so I can’t play tonight.

      But, Banjos, I wanna hold your hand.

      1. Ahhh, thanks sloop! Have fun tonight! Don’t forget to check for an adam’s apple.

        1. Unless it’s really late, pushing closing time. All the details will be blurry the next morning anyway.

        2. Uhm, I have a confession to make. I gotta come clean. Malkin, Coulter, Ingram I’ve done them all! But, you see . . Ann told me it was a strap-on, damn it!

          1. Has anyone ever seen Gaga and Marilyn Manson in the same room? That is one ugly dude, or two dudes.

  36. My dick is so small I gotta keep points!

    1. Epically Phallic. To compensate, ya know.

      1. +100 for talking to yourself!

  37. LOL

    1. I’m in ur base fucking ur squaw.

      1. …are belong to squaw.

        Don’t cry, baby.

  38. This thread is messed.

    1. you lose cuz you can’t turn tight enough, much less think fast enough

      1. [SHAKBRAH]..?is the life for me!

        1. Thanks for the feedback on the Gambol Lockdown terminology. It’s good. It’s effective. It’s in your head, and will never leave. I win.

          1. Officer, am I free to dress like Noel Coward and sing show tunes?

  39. Bored with the topic of the day (not the info dump but this?), I said, ‘hey, I wonder what the Birthers are up to?’

    Obama’s real father was — brace yourself — Malcolm X!

    Way to go Birthers. Wasn’t the point of the movement to prove that Obama wasn’t eligible to be President? Now you are saying his pedigree is all American?

    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011…..bamas.html

    1. Also, I understand that Paul is going to skip the debate being moderated by the nation’s most prominent Birther. I wonder if Romney and Gingrich have even considered the line of attacks by the left that their participation in the Trump event can open up for them down the road? That association though slight may have more of a lasting taint with the general electorate than can be measured or calculated in the polls.

    2. chris|12.3.11 @ 8:00PM|#
      “Bored with the topic of the day (not the info dump but this?), I said, ‘hey, I wonder what the Birthers are up to?’
      Obama’s real father was — brace yourself — Malcolm X!”

      Great! Got to be at least two seasons of comedy in that!
      I’m not gonna click on the link; was Elvis’ alien love child involved?

      1. I almost didn’t bother to link it, and I don’t blame anyone who doesn’t. Just there for archival purposes of showing I’m not making that shit up.

        1. +69 for me!

          1. Take one for the team, chris.

            1. +20 for me.

              1. +99 real me

    3. The Hillary campaign is still coming up with new ideas.

  40. same old Fibertard shit, different Fibertard day

    1. White Indian and Rectal finally perform their duet.

      Join us now for the musical stylings of these two great talents!

      Gambolin is the place to be! Gambolin is the life for me! Land spreading out so far and wide! Keep Manhattan just gimme that countryside!

      New York is where I’d RATHER stay! I get allergic smelling hay! I just adore a penthouse view! Darling I love you but give me Park Avenue

      The chores

      The stores

      Fresh air

      Time Square

      You are my wife

      Goodbye city life!

      GAMBOLIN….We are [THERE]!

      1. +1 for me!

        1. +10 for me.

          1. +size my mother

  41. OM, vermin food = vermin shit, etc.

    Anyhow, what I haven’t seen answered is why Cain could hope that this stuff would remain buried.
    I mean this is for the presidency! The spot that guarantees top dollars on the yack-circuit after the folks toss your ass! An NFL fumble scrum is play-time by comparison; this is eye-gouging and ball-kicking territory and Cain figured no one would find his mistress?

    1. Da, comrade. He’s a shitty people’s political officer. Thinks about shit all the time. Your shit. A busy ass body.

      1. Liberverninism is in the house.

        1. Jason please take your meds.

          1. Honestly, I can’t get that little shit to move out. He says he has the right to shit in the living room!

            I’d call the cops, but he’s… special… so I have to put with his retarded ass until I can trick him out of the house long enough to move and not leave a forwarding address.

    2. The guy is a pizza peddler forchrisake – not a politician. Hell, he never figured that someone would grill him about Libya either. He was a smart guy who talks pretty well who looked around, got pissed about things, decided to run for Prez and thought that glibness would carry him through the rough spots.

      1. +1 for me!

          1. +11 real me

      2. “He was a smart guy who talks pretty well who looked around, got pissed about things, decided to run for Prez and thought that glibness would carry him through the rough spots.”

        If so, he isn’t going to get sympathy. Knife, gun-fight, etc.

        1. Comrade, your political officer’s wisdom is much needed here.

        2. “He was a smart guy who talks pretty well who looked around, got pissed about things, decided to run for Prez and thought that glibness would carry him through the rough spots.” Kinda like the current pres.

    3. why Cain could hope that this stuff would remain buried

      Still no evidence that he had an affair. Accusations only. Accusations by a serial accuser.

      1. +1 nah-nah

      2. Ooops.
        I thought he’s admitted it. My mistake.

  42. no match for lightning-fast OODA loop

    especially when you don’t know what it is

    that’s superior competition, even is competition is superior to cooperation

    not that there are any humans here capable of basic evolutionary function in Reason

    1. Sweet Jebus, she is manic and drunk off her ass.

      1. +1 for me!

          1. +7″ anal dildo real me

      2. She hasn’t hit the sherry yet

        1. +1 for free, in not delivered in 20 minutes

      3. Hey “Banjos,” why dontcha link some crappy vids?

          1. +8.75 real me

      1. +1000000000000000000000000000000000 for me!

          1. +17 real me

    2. …is easily entertained by inanities, because she is trapped in a little world she dares not escape from……

      1. +1 for me!

        1. +20 me!

          1. +32 real me

  43. I’m Rectal’s cousin, and I keep mah fahts in mah jahs.

    1. +1 for me!

        1. +30 real me.

  44. Monotheistic Hierarchy:

    ? JEHOVALLAH
    ? MAN
    ? WOMAN (submits to husband)
    ? ANIMALS (submits to husbandry)
    ? NATURE (worthless outside use for MAN)

  45. ….trapped in small world of locked-down mind….don’t confuse her with alternate vistas.

    1. Government’s good when WI says it’s bad.

      1. ….says competing with government is bad bad bad….

        1. …regulations on the Land that restrict free movement of people.

          1. …always cites State Employees who promote the crushing of the exploratory spirit of humankind….

            1. …her cover has been pulled to expose just another brand of Statist with her Enviro-Cops and Mandatory State-Run Education Camps, and she prances about as if she were not one……..

          2. …..never has a discouraging word about her Patron War-Profiteer $oros. Though plenty of vitriol for the KochSuckers.

            1. …ought to leave his worthless ass and find a man with a penis.

              1. should stop wasting her energy in trying to trick us into believing that she’s anything other than a FUCKING COMMIE.

  46. Anyone watching the Fox News Republican forum? Each candidate gets a series of questions from Huckabee and a panel of attorney generals. Ron Paul is on after Bachmann.

    1. Huckabee and a panel of attorney generals

      Who is writing the script we are living in? Mussolini? First they bring in the disgraced Edwin Meese (forced out for sweet heart defense contract deals) to grill Paul on the Patriot Act. Now Huckster, and a bunch of AGs. This is what passes for centrist interest, no thanks. No. No. No.

    2. A Serious Man|12.3.11 @ 8:55PM|#
      “Anyone watching the Fox News Republican forum?”

      Nope. There’s some paint drying over there that needs watching.

  47. Fuck! My “rectal” schtick is so yesterday!
    What to do?

    [thinks]

    I have a rope…and I’m horny and lonely…

    [thinks]

    Be right back…

    1. …ineffectively.

    2. We at Stately Wayne Manor feel your pain, Real Episiarch, and we feel that the, erm, auto-eroticism jokes are vile and uncalled-for. To the Bat Poles!

      1. I’m way inside it

      2. And by “Bat Poles” we do not mean the erect penises of flying, insect-eating mammalians. We want to make that perfectly erect.

        Clear! We want to make that perfectly clear.

        Carry hard on.

        D’oh!

        Carry on.

        1. WILL EPI ESCAPE?
          CAN BAKED PENGUIN FIND HIM IN TIME?
          IS THIS THE GHASTLY END OF OUR DYNAMIC DUO?

          ANSWERS…TOMORROW NIGHT!
          SAME EPI TIME, SAME EPI CHANNEL!

          1. Whoa. That has to be at least +50 me.

  48. Warning: Fire Danger!

    Do NOT approach the strawman with any open flame of any kind.

    NOTHING clarifies your thoughts on the role of government quite so much as visiting a place that isn’t governed.

    I once visited such a place under construction in Karachi, Pakistan. A developer was building small concrete row houses on land he didn’t own. Electricity came from cables illegally hooked to the nearest power lines. Drinking water came not from plumbing but from delivery trucks. And the children told me they were not attending any school. The nearest thing to the rule of law were the police officers, who collected bribes to pretend that the neighborhood didn’t exist.

    1. You know. Because without government provided water, electricity, and schools a 3rd world hell hole is imminent.

      Nevermind that the vast majority of those in the US don’t have government provided water or electricity, or that schools which are NOT provided by government are VASTLY superior in their mission.

      Without any of that government provided cheese, people are fucking doomed.

    2. Yep, without wars, bail-outs, C4C, NHS, S/S, food stamps, etc, why, we’d all DIE!
      Did shithead write that?

      1. Nope. Some statist named Steve Inskeep.

        1. Isn’t Inkseep an NPR toady?

          1. No idea. But his name was on the byline.

            Either way, he’s a statist douche who thinks that government is necessary in order to breathe.

            1. I just looked him up… he’s on the host roster for Morning Sedition, which explains his statist douchebaggery.

    3. The horror. No bureaucrats to file the appropriate paperwork. I’m surprised the sun didn’t explode.

      1. I’m waiting for Mad Maxdom to erupt any minute.

      2. If only those poor Pakistani fuckers had a Kennedy School of Government to churn out top quality managerial elite like we are so fortunate to have in our country, they would enjoy prosperity similar to our own.

  49. Jesus fucking christ…

    1. I can envision this threat turning in to one of those 2000 post clusterfucks.

      Thanks, manic rectal.

    2. So much for the +1 solution, eh?

      1. I don’t know who really thought that would be a solution, and without denigrating any individual, I will say that it was a TERRIBLE FUCKING IDEA.

        The invisible hand need to move the market on to a new solution, because clearly this one ain’t gonna cut it.

        1. How about don’t respond to it, don’t acknowledge it’s existence, and don’t harp on how people should ignore it but aren’t.

          1. I’m good with that.

            But it’ll take a group effort, and we’re libertarians. Let’s do the math . . .

            Carry over the two, multiply the square root and the hypotenuse, divide by X and you get “GOOD FUCKING LUCK WITH THAT”.

            1. Anarchy means never having to say there are rules.

            1. the +1 solution…

              …is a fabulous idea!
              What the…you would…just when we’re…!

          2. Charles Endicot-Cushing |12.3.11 @ 10:08PM|#
            …”don’t harp on how people should ignore it but aren’t.”

            Kinda like you’re doing right there?
            Hey, I’m not beating on you; I think you have it, but those who regularly respond to it deserve a bit of grief, right OM?
            The fact that I’m picked out as the prime ‘don’t do it’ only suggests that vermin shit is getting desperate.
            In posting tonight, it turns out that vermin shit is easy to ignore; just scroll to what you wish and pass by all that crap.

        2. without denigrating any individual…

          Me, right? You’re denigrating me, asshole?

          1. I have no idea who thought of the point system (hence my not denigrating any individual).

            Regardless of who, it was a terrible fucking idea.

            If you thought of it, Epi, I’ll be more than happy to say that it wasn’t your finest hour.

            1. Not me, dude. You need to realize that the griefer can and will spoof any of us at any time.

              1. I realize it. Very well.

                My bad.

                1. I’ve combed the whole thread looking for griefers, and correcting their grief. Not that I care. But fair is fair. Again, I do not care!

        3. The only effective way to handle a repeat offender troll or serial vandalism on the tubes is to ignore it utterly.

          Any response whatsoever, even reverse trolling, only feeds the parasite and makes it stronger.

          People who do this kind of shit will post whether or not you reply; the only hope is effective banhammering. After this long, I’m positive that WI and rectal have been banned repeatedly, but IPs are easy to obtain. A dedicated and mentally unbalanced troll can fuck shit up indefinitely unless drastic measures are taken, and I do mean drastic. There’s an autistic guy who’s been dicking around with Wikipedia for years, and they were finally told that the only way to truly get rid of him would be to pursue legal means to forcibly restrict his ability to access the Internet.

          Epi, I’m sure, knows how trolls and vandalizers operate, and he knows what not to do, but rectal and WI (assuming they are different people, something of which I am not convinced) are such stinky, psychotic cunts (or bored Anons, or smelly Mac-using Occutards) that it’s difficult not to indulge the desire to fist-fuck them to death.

          That is all. I’ll not be speaking of this again.

          1. So if the Occutard was using a PC, it’d be okay?

            1. There was an “or” in there. rectal is most likely a stinky, psychotic cunt.

          2. This is a lot like graffiti. If you don’t immediately get rid of it, you’ll just attract more. We either need registration to post, or some poor admin will have to sit around for several weeks reading every post and removing anything Godesky writes. He ain’t going away so long as he can get his giggles trashing the place.

            1. Reason could get rid of rectal in two seconds by eliminating comment threading and putting a spam filter in the comment posting code.

              I’m not sure why they choose to keep her around – I figure it’s some bizarre sociological experiment in emerging order.

              1. I love to see comment threading go away. But I don’t see how a spam filter is going to work without generating a lot of false positives.

                1. Ending threading would solve everything.

                  1. Enforcing their private property rights and banning IP addresses that do nothing but continually troll would be OK with me.

          3. That is all. I’ll not be speaking of this again.

  50. From the link:
    “Trump: Ultra-Conservative or Liberal in Disguise?”

    Well, no.
    “Ignorant Egotist Camera Whore” pretty much covers it.

    1. My brother was all about a Trump run and all I could say to him was: “There is a new season of Apprentice coming out in a few weeks. It is a publicity stunt!”

      I don’t understand how anyone can take him seriously.

      1. Mike,
        Dunno about your brother, but most everyone I know has a WBIL (woo brother in law).
        My WBIL would be ‘way more acceptable if his worst interest was Trump.

        1. My brother is a conservative. I think he is too nationalistic, and he thinks that I am too individualistic.

          1. Mike,
            You’re lucky. My WBIL actually believes (as far as I can tell) that people lived to an age of 400 years in ‘biblical times’ (whatever that means).

            1. I feel for you. I am an atheist. And while I try my damnedest to not be an asshole Dawkins type atheist, if that were my brother-in-law it would be practically impossible to avoid.

              1. Liberals hate people who are “too individualistic”, too. It’s a trait they share with so-cons.

                1. …people with empathy.

                  1. …people with empathy.

                    I can empathize with someone’s troubles. Hell, I might even help them out. But, the government putting a gun to my head forcing me to do so is wrong. Those who believe that the government can and should steal from me to give to someone else are really the people with real morality issues – particularly envy.

                    Can’t believe I am going to say this, but bring on the Chapman article already, that is a Monday morning this I believe.

            2. Your brother is White Indian!?!?!

              1. Had no idea there was such a thing as an empathy-to-individualism ratio.

                Sounds like someone made it up.

  51. In other news:

    OU IS GETTING THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM BY OSU!!!!

    GO POKES!!!

    Hi Banjos!

    This thread needs an enema!

    That is all.

    1. I wanna fuck Herman Cain in the face.

    2. Close my eyes, I don’t wanna watch. Turn channel to Badger/Spartan game.

  52. This is PRICELESS, I wish I was in Stillwater!!!!!

    43-3 OSU BAYBEE!!!!

    This is a MASSACRE!!!

    Boomer Sooner! HAHAHAHHAHA!

    Tulpy Poo, are you following this game?

    1. Uh, no feed college ball whackos, either.

    2. Please push your fingers into my rectum and wiggle them while I masturbate using yogurt.

      1. +1 somebody

        1. If you let me piss in your mouth, I’ll let you feed me dog shit, and then we’ll take some liquid scrambled eggs, use a large baster to squirt it all into my ass, and I’ll shit the whole concoction out into a frying pan, and we can eat the result.

  53. Uh, no feed college ball whackos, either.

    Pardon me for being ecstatic, sevo, and slightly more lit than a Christmas Tree at the moment…and I was addressing my buddy Tulpa.

    1. GM,
      The FY comment is a sock; I was razzing, not griping. Hope yo take it that way.

  54. This thread is full of fail.

    1. Your rectum is full…of cock.

      1. CE-C.
        The rectum comment is a sock.

        1. A sock that I beat off into.

          1. Don’t ever change.

            1. Best spoof-thread ever, especially combing thru a day later and sober. + infinity

  55. All right, Chia Obama is back! They must have found an extra box at the warehouse and decided to buy some cheap Saturday night airtime.

    1. Choke on a dick and die in a fire, fuckface.

  56. This is like the best chat room ever!

    1. I’d prefer to watch SNL

  57. GM,
    The FY comment is a sock; I was razzing, not griping. Hope yo take it that way.

    No worries. But judging by Tulpy’s unenthusiastic and monosyllabic response, he may be losing a few quid on this game.

    OU, now you know how Herman Cain felt today! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!

  58. Seriously, if the National Title Game is Alabama v. LSU, the BCS needs to be ended. It should have happened years ago, but then it wasn’t a “problem” in the eyes of the big schools because it only effected little shit asses like Boise State or Utah. But now it is hurting the big schools, and if they don’t demand a playoff, then I will cease to have any respect for D-1 college football as a “sport”.

    Seriously, if that bullshit is our title game, I will burn down the house of every single Harris Poll voter. Also… JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. D2 and D3 have a 24 team playoff, and they still manage to give their teams 11 regular seasons games. So stop it with this, “Can’t do it, sorry boss” bullshit. No, you don’t WANT to do it, because the current system benefits the traditional powers and makes the new power assimilate into the system to succeed. I mean, except for Notre Dame, because ND is special.

    1. I desperately do NOT want to see an LSU/Bama rematch.

      3 & out, punt.
      3 & out, punt.
      3 & out, punt.
      3 & out, punt.
      3 & out, punt.

      Ooohhh, somebody gets a good return, say to the opposing 35.

      3 & out, punt.
      Field goal.
      End half.

      1. You forgot to add Deliverance style banjo music in there.

        I kid, I kid SEC. I just hate your conference and hope it dies in a horrible fire.

    2. As far as I’m concerned, you shouldn’t be eligible for the national title unless you win your own conference. How can you be national champion and not even win your conference?

  59. Also, can I stop seeing this “The Last 5 champs were SEC schools”, because they forget to put “champions” in quotes. REAL SPORTS USE FUCKING PLAYOFFS!!!

    1. “REAL SPORTS USE FUCKING PLAYOFFS!!!”
      Yeah, but real sports pay the players for the danger of getting maimed or killed.

      1. education isn’t free asshole

  60. I desperately do NOT want to see an LSU/Bama rematch.

    OSU has utterly destroyed, nay, obliterated OU. FS: 44-10.

    OSU deserves a chance at a national title.

  61. Wait…

    What the fuck happened to all the “Occupy” news?

    And I am not just talking about its absence at reason.

    1. Up here it’s been replaced by occupy Attawapiskat

      1. Three words would save this population and their community: Private Property Rights.

        1. …by Non-State societies.

          Making vast claims upon the Home Planet’s resources requires Statist aggression to enforce. Property that requires the State to enforce is illegitimate and thus better termed “privation property.”

          The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying This is mine, and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil [-ization, or city-statist] society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows: Beware of listening to this imposter; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody.

          ~Jean-Jacques Rousseau
          Discourse on Inequality (1754)

          1. Question: how can a fat dude like you ever hope to catch a wild animal, let alone enough wild animals to feed yourself, fatty?

            1. Visceral obesity: a “civilization syndrome”.
              (PMID:16350574)

              Bj?rntorp P
              Department of Heart and Lung Diseases, Sahlgren’s Hospital, University of G?teborg, G?teborg, Sweden.

              Obesity Research [1993, 1(3):206-22]

              Abstract
              …The multiple central endocrine and nervous aberrations of visceral obesity suggest neuroendocrine dysregulations, and have features characteristic of the hypothalamic arousal seen after certain types of stress, alcohol intake, and smoking. Such factors can be traced to subjects with visceral fat accumulation. Standardized stress, eliciting a “defeat reaction” in primates is followed by an apparently identical syndrome. This integrated picture of the multiple symptoms of visceral obesity is based on epidemiological, clinical, experimental, cellular, and molecular evidence. The ingredients of positive energy balance, including physical inactivity, stress, smoking, and alcohol consumption are frequent features of modern, urbanized society. Visceral obesity may therefore be an expression of a “Civilization Syndrome.”

              http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/ME…..7E38EE687B

              1. See Heller?

                If she weren’t living in a civilization which forced her to eat bon-bons while making her watch Apollo 13, she’d be thin! And Epi would totally like have sex with her! And, from his healthy diet he’d have wall-to-wall muscles! And after putting in four hours collecting what he needed to live, he’d pleasure her for then next 12 hours.

                1. Agricultural City-Statism is unhealthy.

              2. Right, right, civilization made you fat. Oh wait, did you try not stuffing yourself Jason?

                1. Neuroendocrine disorders cause stress-related disease. “Civilization syndrome” is a growing health problem.
                  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10089734

                  Hope that biology stuff isn’t too difficult for you, heller.

                  1. Jason did you try not stuffing your face? Maybe you would have an easier time hunting-gathering if you lost a few pounds. Maybe try some exercising too.

                    So far it’s looking like you’re squarely one of the 6.5 billion people that would not be able to survive the primitivist lifestyle.

                    1. After twenty minutes in the forest, the White Indian gives up hope of finding the elusive Totino’s Pizza Roll bush.

      2. Also, stop subsidizing poverty.

        1. The reason we have so many privation property borders that restrict the free movement of people is the the government subsidizes it.

          1. Jason restriction of free movement isn’t an acceptable excuse for this body: http://rewild.info/anthropik/w…..before.jpg

            Why don’t you give up this primitivist crap and just admit it’s your fault?

            1. Kill it with fire.

              1. In his natural habitat, the White Indian, having eaten the last bar of soap, contemplates showering with lard.

    2. Gone.

      What do you expect from a group of ill motivated fucktards from Generation Dumbfuck? Did you really think that they could keep their shit together for any length of time.

      Being organized on a grand scale requires money, organization, and people willing to do some hard work. The Occutards don’t have any of that shit; that’s why they’re trying to steal mine.

      1. You know who else had to end their occupation because the weather was getting too cold…

        1. The French?

      2. What do you expect from a group of ill motivated fucktards from Generation Dumbfuck?

        Coldplay?

  62. Now that Cain’s gone, who’ll be next to officially take their ball and go home?

  63. And one more for the road.

  64. Save this image, folks… it could come in handy for future TSA arguments/something to chuckle about as you’re being frog-marched by Obama’s police force:

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/…../o/TSA.jpg

  65. Ah, fuck it. Still not ready to go to bed.

  66. Good news guys, I am now a terrorist suspect. Great timing too with the Senate’s current attempt to suspend the fifth amendment. See you all at Guantanamo.

    1. “insist on paying with cash”

      Oh, noes! Legal tender! And the cash probably has cocaine residue on it!

      1. Officer, am I free to shuffle in my leg irons while career politicians walk the streets like ordinary people?

        1. You’re free to shit in my mouth and lick my asshole.

        2. Hah! You stupid crackers thought I was going to be better at civil rights than Bush??

          The missus was right… y’all a bunch’a dumb-fuck inbreds. Yeah, even the ones who *did* vote for me… but I shall kill them last.

          AFTER the election. It’s just a formality, yo.

          1. We love You, O Lord!

          2. Dammit, it should’ve been *me* oppressing the American people!

  67. Dread Zeppelin break…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

  68. Forgot how awesome this music video is.

  69. About to have a meltdown.

  70. Didn’t know about this band until I forced myself to at least catch the musical guest on SNL a couple of weeks ago… didn’t know what I was missing (band-wise; SNL still sucks on the comedy thing):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGH-4jQZRcc

    1. I like some of their stuff.

      1. I have to take it in small doses… listening to them for an hour would probably have me bleeding from the wrists. But they are a talented bunch.

        1. There are certain bands who I respect, but can only handle in doses. Sonic Youth is one.

          1. In another vein, I’m that way with these guys…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8XYWZMHqpU

            And I’m a HUGE Zappa fan, from whom these guys must have cribbed an idea or two.

            1. Holy fuck! Mr. Bungle always put me in a weird state of mind. You can appreciate what they were doing, but goddamn.

            2. I can take Mike Patton in horse doses. Those bands/albums where he doesn’t sing many actual words? Self-indulgent like nothing else but great.

              1. Definitely great, without a doubt. But as I said before, goddamn.

                1. Love Steven Wilson, too.

                  But Mike Patton, not real music? Surely you jest.

                  1. Didn’t bother looking past Veruca Salt.

  71. I’ma gotta crash. It’s tired, and I’m getting late.

    Wake me up if Obama shithammers us with martial law, ‘k?

    1. ….is already in the house. And you’re for it.

      Mr. FIFY = Obama

      Officer, am I free to gambol about plain and forest?

      Mr. FIFY: NO!
      Obama: NO!

      Totalitarian ‘Tards, both.

      1. I am such a retard.

      2. ..is already in the house.

        1. It’s almost four o’clock in the afternoon, but the White Indian’s day is just beginning.

          Bleary-eyed, he squats in the middle of a neighbor’s living-room floor, and arrogantly leaves his mark.

  72. I seem to be in a ska mood.

  73. new UC Davis video. the bigorati will still find fault with the cops. fortunately, this vid is getting traction, and it clearly vindicates the UC davis cops

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhPdH3wE0_Y&sns=fb

    1. Yup, warning a bunch of people sitting on the ground that you’re going to use pepper spray on them gives you license to use pepper spray on them. Cop-logic at its finest.

      1. Remove hours of context from an event in order to leave just a few seconds which make cops look bad. I hate cops … unless I need them.

  74. One of the few No Doubt songs that doesn’t make me want to kick Gwen in the twat.

  75. I am getting sappy, which means I should crash.

  76. Speaking of artists who I respect but can only handle in doses.

  77. And another one.

  78. And I am done for the night.

  79. How come WI’s obsession with the evils of the horticultural city-state hasn’t subsided yet? Isn’t there something else to bitch about in the world he can latch onto?

    Also:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12…..index.html

    “Although few liberals believe in the cultural superiority of the American people, 73% of Democrats in a 2010 USA Today/Gallup poll believe that its “history and its Constitution” make the United States “the greatest country in the world.” This is the view of American exceptionalism held by Obama. As he stated in a 2009 news conference in Strasbourg, France, “I think we have a core set of values that are enshrined in our Constitution, in our body of law, in our democratic practices, in our belief in free speech and equality, that, though imperfect, are exceptional.”

    Contemporary liberals support a larger, more activist role for government at home and abroad because they trust that the competing branches of government will limit the influence of what James Madison called “factions.” Expecting the government to usually “do the right thing” because of its institutional constraints, liberals are more comfortable giving it a larger role in our lives.

    Liberals extend the principles of limited government to the international arena. Believing that a leader needs followers, and that followers will only follow if the leader can be trusted, liberals embrace multilateralism.

    It is only by creating opportunities for other countries to voice their preferences and to shape American policy through joint decision-making that other countries will accept the unique leadership status of the United States, they believe. In this view, the United States can and should welcome limits on its freedom of action abroad — just as it does at home. According to the Pew Research Center poll, 57% of liberals believe the United States should get United Nations approval before using military force, while only 38% of conservatives say this is an important step.”

    Roflmfao

    1. …horticulture and agriculture.

      Agriculture or Permaculture: Why Words Matter
      by Jason Godesky | 13 June 2007
      http://www.rewild.info/anthrop…..ds-matter/

      1. I’m citing myself again……Mmmm good!

    2. Liberals equate the Constitution with unlimited government which should always be trusted if the top men are in charge.

  80. Rewilding primitivist women are hot!

  81. lol, good, dude is clearly corrupt as the day is long.

    http://www.private-web.tk

  82. Violent Video Games Alter Brain Function in Young Men

    ScienceDaily (Nov. 30, 2011) ? Sustained changes in the region of the brain associated with cognitive function and emotional control were found in young adult men after one week of playing violent video games, according to study results presented by Indiana University School of Medicine researchers at the annual meeting of the Radiological Society of North America…

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/…..095251.htm

    Should we MRI-check the affect of Ayn Rand novels and KOCHsucker Reason articles for suppression of natural human empathy, compassion, and altruism?

    1. My ability to have empathy allows me to imagine your state of mind and your emotions, and doing those two things makes me hate you, because you are such a wretch. “Putting myself into your shoes” fills me with disgust for you, because your interior life is so vile.

      My compassion for the rest of the world makes me want you to shut up and die in a fire – once again precisely because I have empathy and know you do well.

      It would be altruistic for me to blow you up with a Predator drone, because of all the good that would do the world. But I am not an altruist, so I guess that’s out.

      But hey, one out of three is OK I guess.

      1. Consulting the ghosts of Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao. They’d be so proud of you, Fluffy.

        1. What about me? I’m the Predator drone killer! Jeeesh…..

          1. What about me?

            I took private ownership of a whole country, pretty much like Ayn Rand said was ok for White Civilization to do in North America, and trespassed the Jooooz with privatized solutions, just like Ayn Rand said was ok for the Injuns.

            “I absolutely insist on protecting private property … we must encourage private initiative.” ~Adolph Hitler

            Besides, it’s a logical error to leave me out of an argument in Liber-la-la land.

            1. Aaaaaand the racism comes out of Jason Godesky’s fignertips, flows through the keyboard, picking up some Hitler-love along the way.

              1. “In short; racialist science is properly not an act of aggression or a cover for oppression of one group over another, but, on the contrary, an operation in defense of private property against assaults by aggressors.” ~Murray Rothbard

                source:
                Murray Rothbard, Lew Rockwell and Scientific Racism
                July 06, 2010
                http://holocaustcontroversies……l-and.html

                1. Trapped by his own failed logic, the White Indian digs a hole and sticks the tip of his penis into it in a vain, desperate attempt to connect with Gaia for guidance.

      2. Fluffy,

        That was one of the funniest bits of spite I’ve read in a long time. Well done, sir!

    2. Advocacy of increased state involvement in the activities of individuals does not necessarily equate to empathy, compassion or altruism. In fact, in many cases, those pining for a more powerful government do so while ignoring the oppression that comes with it. Just as unfeeling are those who would take away a person’s choice to live as he wants, and it’s hardly your charity when you’re “helping” the poor with other people’s resources.

  83. Sharon Bialek.

    No? Nothing?

  84. Over 500 comments? Who knew that the inevitable end to the Cain campaign would generate so much interest.

    For the record, I called it that they would boast about predicting this when Ginger White came out.

  85. This thread is like a bad hangover
    Let’s lighten the mood

    Former UN climate chief blames world leaders for failing to guide climate talks.

    Yvo de Boer said he left his job as the U.N.’s top climate official in frustration 18 months ago, believing the process of negotiating a meaningful climate agreement was failing. His opinion hasn’t changed.

    “I still have the same view of the process that led me to leave the process,” he told The Associated Press Sunday. “I’m still deeply concerned about where it’s going, or rather where it’s not going, about the lack of progress.”

    Many Americans, he said, have still not bought into the “green story,” he said. In the meantime, the U.S. is losing a competitive edge against China, which is investing heavily to shift the course of its economy ? from which it will benefit regardless of the global warming issue, he said.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com…..le2259492/

    Even Yvo calls it a story.
    What an assclown.

    1. Is this worse than the time the Japanese were investing heavily in (analog) HDTV and were going to take over because this obvious competitive edge?

      Well of course it’s worse, ’cause they are gonna save the planet at the same time.

    2. Many Americans, he said, have still not bought into the “green story,” he said. In the meantime, the U.S. is losing a competitive edge against China, which is investing heavily to shift the course of its economy ? from which it will benefit regardless of the global warming issue, he said.

      China can also draw on a large population of virtual slave labor to develop those industries. The US will never be able to keep up, no matter how many sub-literate mestizos US businesses recruit.

    3. The real amazing thing here is that even if China produces this brilliant tech (ha), the US can still copy it a few years later. Welcome to what Japan did to US cars, or Americans did to cell phones. What, will we be expected to recognize Chinese copyright laws, were they to exist?

      There’s no reason to interfere with someone doing fundamental research — it comes at their expense and for universal benefit.

      As for China, I love when people talk about how enlightened they are.

  86. A repeat from 1944: German city evacuated for WWII bomb threat
    http://news.bostonherald.com/n…..ion=recent

  87. BING! Honey, the pizza guy is at the door.

  88. Dragon Age Origins was partly based on Abraham Lincoln’s adventures:

    “At Shartan’s word, the sky
    Grew black with arrows.
    At Our Lady’s, ten thousand swords
    Rang from their sheaths,
    A great hymn rose over Valarian Fields gladly proclaiming:
    Those who had been slaves were now free.”

    That’s from the Chant of Light — fuck me, man, Lincoln’s one badass mother.

    In other important news, why the heck were there no Morning Links? 🙁

    1. There’s never morning links on Sunday.
      The editors are too busy skipping church.

      1. No shit — they wouldn’t want to be the sort of Christ-fags Shriek kept warning us about, would they?

        1. I miss shrike. The fat pathetic toad we have stalking the board now will make you miss anyone.

          1. Obesity is called “Civilization Syndrome.”

            Visceral obesity: a “civilization syndrome.”
            Bj?rntorp P
            Department of Heart and Lung Diseases, Sahlgren’s Hospital, University of G?teborg, G?teborg, Sweden.
            Obesity Research [1993, 1(3):206-22]
            http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/ME…..7E38EE687B

            1. …civilization made you eat those Ho-Hos.

          2. Will you be here all week?

  89. So you want to be a Socialist? round 1

  90. Official: 13 hurt when fans storm Okla. St. field
    http://www.google.com/hostedne…..b77694a0d7

    1. 80,000 fans butthurt when results of OU v. OSU announced

  91. The Hermanator just gave the media an excuse to ignore the big Fast and Furious Friday document dumb. We are withdrawing this “inaccurate letter” but we didn’t lie or anything. Trust us!!

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetw…..t=1&f=1001

    1. They skied those weapons to Mexico!

  92. Jon Corzine subpoenaed by Congress.

    This is believed to be the first time in over 100 years s former member of Congress has been subpoenaed by that body. I’ll bet the SOBs probably want to know where he stashed all the loot he stole, and why they haven’t gotten any of it yet.

    1. Baring a after the election pardon, which would not surprise me, I think Corzine is headed to federal accommodations

  93. You know that quiz is deeply flawed. Every candidate is going, essentially, to say they support liberty. Only one that I am aware of actually does.

    1. Officer, am I free to gambol about plain and forest in a Non-State lifeway?*

      Ron Paul: NO!
      Karl Marx: NO!

      City-Statists are all the same, looking for some glorious political solution to their prison problems. None work too well.

      Many people living in non-state societies enjoy lifeways that a number of Americans seem intent on reinventing – such as close association with the land, small group size, and emphasis on oral traditions.
      […]
      Historically, people in non-state societies are relatively autonomous and sovereign. They generate their own subsistence with little or no assistance from outside sources. They bow to no external political leaders.

      NON-STATE AND STATE SOCIETIES
      http://faculty.smu.edu/rkemper…..ieties.pdf

      1. Government Employees appeal to troubled WI Squaw in her little critiques of the State. She will not trust non-STATE sources.

  94. You know who else had to end their occupation because the weather was getting too cold…

    History is rife with examples of would-be despots who found themselves in this little glitch, Tulpington Poo; perhaps you could narrow the field down a bit?

      1. That’s actually a myth. Most were either KIA or gotten by disease/lack of food. The cold weather was only a minor factor and was mostly an excuse to shield Napoleon from criticism.

        1. that is true. There is a really good book that came out last year called Napoleon and Russia, that looks at it from the Russian side of it. And it shows it to be a war of attrition rather than Napoleon freezing his people.

          1. What often gets downplayed, or omitted entirely as a separate point, in Russian schools is that a great deal of the resistance New-Rome-France’s emperor faced was from either decentralized or completely autonomous bands/units of Cossacks.

            They appeared, seriously fucked shit up at a portion of the marching column, and disappeared before any significant reaction could occur.

            It’s so badly taught in many places that the sum of the kids’ knowledge is “Russian Army, like, burned Moscow and kicked Napoleon’s ass sometime in the 19th century”.

            1. still better than American education

    1. Christopher McCandless?

      1. Good one. In reality the cold weather didn’t end his occupation, it ended him. (Or actually it was some bad acorns or something IIRC.)

        1. I read the book, I think my hippie sister left it here and I’m a readaholic. I just had a look at the Wiki page and Krakauer’s hypothesis of poisoning seems to have been debunked.

  95. I miss shrike. The fat pathetic toad we have stalking the board now will make you miss anyone.

    I must admit, Shriek had a peculiar and poetic misanthropic simplicity about him, boasting of his forays into the intrigue laden world of amateur day trading and his revolving door relationship with schizophrenia and sanity.

    1. Schizophrenia is a Disease of Civilization!

      Schizophrenia and civilization
      by E. Fuller Torrey, M.D.
      http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/…..o=heb02208

      1. Yeah. You really can’t get more pathetic than this.

        1. So, John, why do you support disease causing city-Statism (civilization?)

          1. ….poor dear always cites as sources State Employees (with tenure and fat salaries and pensions guaranteed by the seized wealth of non-state persons) to back up her criticisms of the State. pathetic.

      2. Jason, take your meds.

        1. Dissent against city-Statism is a disease to the Fibertards.

          1. Jason, please take your meds. Momma Godesky is worried.

          2. Dissent against shackbrahism is a disease of the Primitards.

  96. Napoleon.

    Don’t forget John, The Axis Powers made a similar blunder in WWII.

    It’s a shame Wallace Shawn wasn’t around to warn them of this repeated flawed strategy.

    Attila the Hun was certainly smarter about razing the Russk Taiga.

    1. In the case of the Nazi’s they hadn’t built up the required supplies for cold-weather fighting.

      A significant portion of their army lacked the cold-weather gear required to be out in the elements for any length of time.

      Despite all of this, they might have pulled it off, if it hadn’t been for that meddling Fuehrer. The Germans tend to have a problem with picking a strategy and sticking with it to the conclusion. 😉

      1. “Despite all of this, they might have pulled it off, if it hadn’t been for that meddling Fuehrer.”

        Nope.
        The were tapped-out. They had no way of supplying the forces required.

        1. I think you are probably right. They did get pretty close to capturing Moscow despite vacillating between conquering Moscow and conquering the Ukraine, however. I expect that a less impulsive and meddlesome Hitler could have allowed the German generals to come up with a plan that would have worked.

          1. I’m gonna chime in here.

            It was really the fault of Il Duce. Had he not gotten all butthurt at the Nazis running roughshod on everybody, he wouldn’t have gone after Greece and the German army wouldn’t have had to bail him out. They would have been able to start their Russian campaign much earlier in the year and not gotten stuck in the rainy season, causing them to be in the heart of Russia in the winter as opposed to sitting in the Black Sea oil fields and the Kremlin.

  97. Official: 13 hurt when fans storm Okla. St. field

    That was mess! Two were critically injured and had to be life flighted to OKC. IIRC, compound leg fractures. One poor person fell 15 ft. and French kissed concrete at a considerable lbs/in^2.

    You’d think The ‘Pokes had never won a conference title outright instead of merely sharing the honor. Oh wait…

  98. Many Americans, he said, have still not bought into the “green story,” he said. In the meantime, the U.S. is losing a competitive edge against China, which is investing heavily to shift the course of its economy ? from which it will benefit regardless of the global warming issue, he said.

    Shorter Yvo de Boer:

    “The lazy USA won’t recognize settled dogma and China is flipping everyone the bird in perpetuity.”

  99. Most were either KIA or gotten by disease/lack of food. The cold weather was only a minor factor and was mostly an excuse to shield Napoleon from criticism.

    There is truth to this; however, I’m pretty sure when you have disease afflicted, starving soldiers with morale in the loo after witnessing their comrades mowed down, a brutal Russk winter would be perfect to hasten the survivors’ demise.

    Let’s just say the the lethality of the wintry weather was a tad exaggerated, as opposed to full blown myth.

  100. This is like the worst chat room ever.

  101. To blow off steam, I just massacred all of Liberty City. I fucking plowed through the entire population, and I used the bodyguard mod to spawn myself a team, too. I totally kicked the LCPD’s ass. The most satisfying part was when I ran over the black prostitute from Dukes (Queens) and NOBODY CARED.

    That’s a fun game.

    Cue MNG.

    1. Murder is Fun. It starts as a game, to desensitize.

      1. Because I can’t tell the different between pixels and real people, everyone must not be able to tell the difference.

        1. Violent Video Games Alter Brain Function in Young Men

          ScienceDaily (Nov. 30, 2011) ? Sustained changes in the region of the brain associated with cognitive function and emotional control were found in young adult men after one week of playing violent video games, according to study results presented by Indiana University School of Medicine researchers at the annual meeting of the Radiological Society of North America.

          http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/…..095251.htm

          1. And ‘changes’ must equal ‘on their way to becoming violent psychopaths’ right dipshit?

            You know what else changes the structure of the brain? FUCKING EVERYTHING. Your brain is always changing, although I suspect yours mainly goes from manic to depressed to back again.

          2. Yet another Social Science study that proves nothing but is topped with a this “may” be meaningful over a long period of time. Of course, we have zero data to prove anything about the long term effects. So we don’t have any actual significant data, but we can trust the media to pretend it does thanks to confirmation bias. And it makes it easier for us to get future gov funding to get to play video games.

          3. My understanding is that the violence level of the games have nothing to do with these changes. That the same thing happens playing FIFA or some other game requiring quick hand eye reactions.

            1. If you read the article you’ll notice how retardedly unscientific this study was.

              First there were only 28 participants. No matter what they found 28 is a statistically insignificant number.
              14 were instructed to play violent video games for a week then none for a week. The control group were told not play any games for two weeks. As you pointed out this study doesn’t show that it was the violent character of the game that made the difference because they didn’t even compare it to nonviolent games.

              They didn’t do any kind of analysis of other differences between the men that could have an effect. They let them do it at home and self report their participation. This makes me highly skeptical.

              Finally, their claim that “these findings indicate that violent video game play has a long-term effect on brain functioning,” is a blatant lie on its face. They didn’t study long term effects only the effect of one week of play with a one week lag. One week is not fucking long term.

              1. One week is not fucking long term.

                It is for us.

        2. I have the same problem with pr0n. It’s gotten so bad I can’t tell the difference between watching redtube and having sex with a real woman. It’s exactly the same experience. Weird.

  102. Those of us who have been observing the libertarian invasion and take-over of the GOP have been remarking on the qualities mentioned above. They have no morality, honor, fairness, compassion, or decency. Now, we have the statistic to prove the theory.

    Ayn Rand: The Psychopath Who Inspired the Libertarians
    April 27, 2011
    http://www.thepinkflamingoblog.com/20…..ertarians/

    1. The Pink Flamingo is basically an unapologetic neo-con!

      For those of us who have learned all there is to know about life from Star Trek, the voice of logic, intellect, and reason is not necessarily the best solution to the problem.

      1. in this way, neoconnery is much like love…

        it means never having to say you’re sorry…

        “oh, that pesky little iraq war thang… i’m NOT sorry”

        1. Libertarian sophistry means never having to say you’re sorry…

          “oh, that pesky little North American Genocide thang… i’m NOT sorry”

          “[The Native Americans] didn’t have any rights to the land … Any white person who brought the element of civilization had the right to take over this continent.”

          ~Ayn Rand, US Military Academy at West Point, March 6, 1974

          1. Oh no! He quoted Ayn Rand! Fuck we’re doooooooomed.

            Take your meds Jason.

    2. This garbage is supposed to actually have meaning? This article is the sort of thing put in bags and set on fire on people’s front steps as a joke.

    3. But both libertarians and Objectivists are moved by the mania of a single idea ? a freedom indistinguishable from selfishness.

      Yup. Strange how it doesn’t appeal to more people (who apparently should not act altruistically, even for selfish reasons). It’s license to do as little as possible for society while asking from it the maximum liberty.

      1. A liberal talking about altruism… now, that’s a knee-slapper.

      2. It’s license to do as little as possible for society while asking from it the maximum liberty.

        Since liberty is the default condition of people, what you’re saying is “It’s license to do as little as possible for society because you ask as little as possible in return.” That’s an even trade.

        Real selfishness is using the advantage of firepower and numbers to wring money out of people to pay for things they don’t want and act against their interests, like paying the salaries of police to ruin lives for possessing drugs and hurting nobody, or paying the salaries of politicians who take bribes to craft the law to suck away any money that the little guy might have left and give it to special interests.

        1. How is liberty the default condition of people? Which people? Not people when they’re born, who are absolutely dependent. Not the majority of people in the history of civilization, who’ve lived under autocrats of one form or another.

          So who? Sounds like it’s something you want but don’t want to work for. In other words, you want all of us to pay for the type of civilization that allows you maximum liberty, and you want to bitch about having to pay too.

          1. So… liberty, bad?

  103. Sort of slightly on topic (campaigning and elections): Putin’s party (United Russia) is doing much worse than expected according to exit polls. So bad actually that UR might not get a majority. This would change the Russian political dynamic completely. The ‘opposition’ parties of yesterday were complacent and integral parts of the system because they knew their place. If they do well this election, expect them to start feeling their oats. The system may start to break down.

    1. That would “change the Russian political dynamic completely” in the sense that Putin would have to steal the election rather than winning it.

      His guys count the ballots, and no way is he going to give up his stranglehold on power.

      1. Assume United Russia eats dirt and Putin flunks, a rainbow of everything from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation to Fatherland-type quasi-fascists takes over. What a fantastic alternative.

        I think nuclear holocaust would be preferable. Don’t you?

        1. Maybe you get both.

  104. If they do well this election, expect them to start feeling their oats.

    And to get detained or massacred.

    The system may start to break down

    Detentions and massacre is the Russian system.

    1. ^^^All above

      Yes these bad things could happen. Mass repression could happen although I think Russia can hardly afford internal strife given its deep involvement in a lot of ‘near abroad’ shit form Syria to the Caucusus to Belarus. Or they could just neglect those things and Russia’s sphere dies.

      I think in the struggle between the various asshole factions, they won’t have a choice but to front pragmatism should one of them gain power. In the chaos and lack or organized state repression, the liberal opposition will have a more coherent message and I think will attract a sizeable minority to act as kingmaker.

      It is possible asshole ultranationalists take power. I doubt we’ll get to the MW2/MW3 scenarios, and I really doubt those guys will get along with the neighbours, most critically China.

      But I’m forecasting kinda long.

      1. I really doubt those guys will get along with the neighbours, most critically China.

        The Russian population is evaporating. Its eastern provinces are being repopulated by the Chinese. Soon Russia will lose territory. The big wildcard is the mountain of nukes that Russia still possesses. Will Russia’s leaders get crazy enough to drop a few bombs to keep the dragon at bay? Will they? WILL THEY?

        1. What evidence is there that Russia still has (or ever did) a mountain of nukes?

  105. Shut the fuck up, libertards. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

    1. I never thought about it that way before. I am completely taken aback and will now reassess my beliefs.

    2. Nope, we’re not.

    3. Proletarians of the world — unite! A ghost wanders in Europe, the GHOST of COMMUNISM!

      1. I am no ghost. My priests still hold services in the hallowed halls of academia. I gain new acolytes each and every semester. I will rise again. Greece is nearly ready. Italy awaits me like a succulent olive, yearning to be picked.

    4. Sarcasm is the last refuge of the weak. Blow me.

      1. Alan, I am completely blown away by your superior intellect. Your ideas are so novel to me. Please help lead this lost, ignorant soul out of the land of the blind into the land of the enlightened.

        1. Choke on a dick and die, shit-stain. I’m under no obligation to explain to you why everything libertarians believe is a stupid fantasy, any more than I need to explain to you how to tie your shoes. Some things are so elementary that if you haven’t figured them out by now, you’re never going to, and so deserve only to be mocked and scorned. Which thankfully the American electorate does with regularity, as your candidates and your positions fail every time.

          1. Choke on a dick and die, shit-stain.

            Alan, Alan, you are going to need to slow down. You are moving far too fast for a simpleton like me. First, please instruct me in the proper way to fellate. Your expertise in the field far exceeds mine.

          2. Uh oh, someone change Alan’s diaper please

              1. “Sarcasm is the last refuge of the weak”

      2. Shut the fuck up, Anal. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

        PWN’ED!!

      3. Yup. Also puns. But sarcasm is the lamest by far. That’s why you see so much of it here. Takes no talent whatsoever.

      4. Sarcasm is the last refuge of the weak. Blow me.

        You’d need a dick to blow first.

    5. Are you a retread, Alan, or a *new* unhinged, hate-filled socialist?

  106. Ugh, Caleb Hannie. You are the opposite of Batman.

    1. OT: Am I seriously the only one that found Nolan’s Batman movies too empty (literally)? There’s no vibrancy to them. They’re fun, yeah, but Batman’s going to need another reboot, and Christian Bale is pretty mediocre. Will the Spiderman reboot fuck up, or not?

      1. Total fuck up. The only superhero movie that looks good is The Avengers.

      2. Funny, I was just wondering if I was the only one in the universe who found the second Batman movie to be terrible. Typical overly complicated plot and that dude who died was massively overrated.

        But I really liked the first one. I thought Nolan managed to cram in a lot of backstory without making it feel at all crammed in, and without being ridiculously contrived. Having a real Batcar and moving away from heavy CGI was a brilliant step in the right direction.

    2. Tebow > Hanie

  107. OT: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena_Six

    If you know of the case, what are your opinions?

    1. In short; racialist science is properly not an act of aggression or a cover for oppression of one group over another, but, on the contrary, an operation in defense of private property against assaults by aggressors. ~Murray Rothbard

    2. I actually debated this case a lot when it was a big deal. I knew multiple people in college who went out there to protest including my libertarian friend. I don’t remember that much but essentially my position was that a lot of teenagers of both races acted like retarded teenagers and it go blown way out of proportion. As more and more information came out it became clear the black teens didn’t beat the kid because of the noose but because of other beef. Also the prosecutor in charge was black.

      In a just race blind world this never would have been a national news story because kids of all races beat kids of all races all the time for all kinds of reasons. Of course even when proven that this wasn’t some massive racial conspiracy the race baiters never apologized (I’m shocked!) and neither did all the liberal jackasses who got pissy with me for being skeptical the whole time. They were all your typical white upper class limousine liberals. My libertarian friend did admit he was wrong as more information came out (he didn’t need to apologize because unlike the progressives he can accept skepticism without calling you a racist).

  108. Ending threading would solve everything.

    I’m with ya. I will no longer submit to the tyranny of threaded comments!

    1. Threaded comments turn a forum into a chat room.

  109. Gonna rock that bitch up and down the coast.

    Occupy the Million Dollar View
    by Dmitry Orlov
    http://www.energybulletin.net/stories…..ollar-view

  110. America’s Toughest Sheriff? fails to investigate sex-crimes reported to his office by the hated hispanics:

    http://news.yahoo.com/critics-…..52410.html

    1. Fucking equal protection – how does it work?

  111. I’m with ya. I will no longer submit to the tyranny of threaded comments!

    One of us, one of us!

  112. OMG – Tebow > Minnesota? 1:12 to go…

    1. Fuckin’ A. I’m buying stock in…something.

  113. How do the Cardinals expect to win while wearing their PJs?

  114. I’m with ya. I will no longer submit to the tyranny of threaded comments!

    Throw off the shackles of threading! Go the equivalent of kommando and be free!

    Or, if you prefer, alternate like Banjos does and be bi-threadal, displaying fluency in both means of H&R discourse.

    1. Shut the hell up.

      1. Or else what, faggot?

        1. And the homo-bashing rears it’s ugly head. Yep, you guys are real winners.

          1. Alan|12.4.11 @ 5:16PM|#

            And the homo-bashing rears it’s ugly head. Yep, you guys are real winners.

            Earlier…
            Alan|12.4.11 @ 4:04PM|#

            Sarcasm is the last refuge of the weak. Blow me.

            Alan|12.4.11 @ 4:49PM|#

            Choke on a dick and die, shit-stain.

            Fuckin LOL.

            1. IT’S NOT HOMO-BASHING WHEN I DO IT A BLOO BLOO BLOO!

            2. I was merely presenting an unpleasant way to die (I’m sure even open homosexuals have no desire to choke to death while practicing their perversion).

              You used the word as a slur against me personally. Again, color me surprised that the bigorati here are too witless to discern the distinction.

              1. I was merely presenting an unpleasant way to die (I’m sure even open homosexuals have no desire to choke to death while practicing their perversion).

                But getting called a faggot is grounds for butthurt?

                You used the word as a slur against me personally. Again, color me surprised that the bigorati here are too witless to discern the distinction.

                Color me surprised that your posts have been limited to passive-aggressive goonery. Why does the rest of society have to suffer for your daddy issues?

              2. (I’m sure even open homosexuals have no desire to choke to death while practicing their perversion)

                1. Whoever caught Alan in the act of simultaneously defending homosexuality *and* calling it “perversion”… good call.

                  Also… Alan. Read a fucking dictionary:

                  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

                  Just like Tony, some people can’t properly use words. Typical liberal behavior.

  115. I will no longer submit to the tyranny of threaded comments!

    Go forth and sin no more.

    1. Blah blah blah

  116. The only superhero movie that looks good is The Avengers.

    If Patrick Macnee isn’t in it, I won’t watch.

  117. I am suspending my campaign to get everyone to fart in a jar. I just could not convince enough people it is a great way to save energy.

  118. I’m under no obligation to explain to you why everything libertarians believe is a stupid fantasy, any more than I need to explain to you how to tie your shoes.

    Velcro shoes and a safety helmet are part of your daily wardrobe, I presume, Anal?

    Shut the hell up.

    My! How ever shall I recover from such blistering reposte? I’m certainly born anew in your brilliance; enjoy fucking yourself with a rusty Husqvarna and eating gallons of grade school paste.

  119. Or, if you prefer, alternate like Banjos does and be bi-threadal, displaying fluency in both means of H&R discourse.

    What can I say? I’m a kinky chick.

  120. If Patrick Macnee isn’t in it, I won’t watch.

    Somewhat on topic (but not really): Better The Avengers heroine, Diana Rigg as Emma Peel or Linda Thorson as Tara King?

    1. Um, you’re leaving out Uma Thurman. Say what you want, but she was outstanding in that film. As a matter of fact, if I had to…..hahaha. I couldn’t keep a straight face any longer.

  121. Some things are so elementary that if you haven’t figured them out by now, you’re never going to, and so deserve only to be mocked and scorned.

    The voice of experience?

  122. Diana Rigg.

  123. What can I say? I’m a kinky chick.

    Clearly, I’ll have to commission a music room to be built and will leave a trail of antique banjos and ukeleles leading to it, a la Hansel and Gretel.

  124. Fuckin’ A. I’m buying stock in…something.

    I understand there is a thriving market in gamboling; a wicked IPO is sure to manifest itself soon enough.

  125. Witty, wise, intelligent libertarian commenters, explain something to me, please, because I simply can’t figure it out.

    If your values are so self-evident and timeless, found in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, First Principals, etc., then why does no-one but a fringe minority of people subscribe to them?

    Why does the American electorate soundly reject your platform and your ideas at every turn? Could it possibly be that your values AREN’T timeless and self-evident, but rather the bullshit fantasy ravings of people who have spent entirely too much time memorizing obscure references from sci-fi novels and television shows, as evidenced by the comments on any of these stories which inevitably devolve into quoting or referencing such works?

    Nah, couldn’t be…

    1. Its similar to farting in a jar. Few do it but many talk about it.

    2. I’m going to give you a serious answer:

      It’s because we believe in ourselves more than you do. We have more faith in human righteousness than you do, and are not afraid to give people freedom because we know they will ultimately respect the liberty of others while you are cowering in fear.

      Meanwhile, you are afraid of yourself and those around you, and feel an inherent need to be controlled and to control the rights of others, and are not willing to take responsibility for your own actions and instead want to share the rewards and pitfalls of your mediocrity with the other mediocre people in the world while confiscating the successes of your betters and giving them to the undeserving.

      1. Fascinating insight into the superiority complex of a Nietzschean superman.

        How like a liberal you sound. “If only the ignornant masses were as awesome and informed and self-aware as I, they would agree with my point of view!”

        Thank the good Lord that there are so few of you; if you think things are bad now, imagine how it’d be in a government run by people as full of themselves and their own self-importance as you just described.

        1. I never claimed to be one of the betters. I just respect their liberty.

          But in all seriousness, I am better than you.

          1. Better than me? I don’t know; seems like I would have found a way to mail the beer without getting caught.

            HA!

            😀

            1. Yeah, because a state that will not allow me to send my legal property to someone else is sooooo good, right?

              That would be a tenet of libertarianism: the ability to transfer property to another owner without fear of government intervention or limitation.

              But that’s teh evul, right?

              1. Um dude, it was me the whole time. See further downthread. I was just cracking a joke : )

                1. Bravo, asshole. Bravo.

                  I thought your dunphy spoof was brilliant yesterday, but you’ve really gone the extra mile and set yourself up for a troll of the year nomination.

                  1. “a government run by people as full of themselves and their own self-importance”

                    Like we haven’t had that problem for the past fifty years, at least…

        2. Thank the good Lord that there are so few of you; if you think things are bad now, imagine how it’d be in a government run by people as full of themselves and their own self-importance as you just described.

          Or…imagine it in a world where government didn’t try to “run it” at all, but instead allowed people to do what they wanted until it infringed on someone else’s right to do what they wanted.

          Unfortunately, the concept of liberty seems beyond your brain capacity.

          1. Thank the good Lord that there are so few of you; if you think things are bad now, imagine how it’d be in a government run by people as full of themselves and their own self-importance as you just described.

            1. Looks like we found them:

              http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

              1. How anyone ever took those assholes seriously is honestly beyond my ability to comprehend. I wish I was intelligent enough to get it.

                1. Some of them have legitimate gripes, but it’s telling as to what most of them omit from their rants, and in some cases the utter cluelessness and self-entitlement is astounding.

                  And these are the assholes who, by and large, will be in charge of the country in about 20-30 years.

                  1. And these are the assholes who, by and large, will be in charge of the country in about 20-30 years.

                    Don’t worry; people said that about the hippies 40 years ago, and look how wonderful everything has worked out.

                  2. And these are the assholes who, by and large, will be in charge of the country in about 20-30 years.

                    Those clowns will never be in charge of anything important. The people who will be in charge aren’t camping out in tents in front of city hall.

              2. Looks like we found them:

                It’s taking so long to read all 217 pages of sob stories and I am running out of hankies. Buy me some more. I am the 99%.

    3. Why the fuck do you care, Alan? Why is it so goddamned important to you?

      Take your “perversion” elsewhere. You add nothing to the conversation here.

      1. Though I – being able to admit when I’m wrong, unlike some people – may have erred in calling you a liberal earlier, Alan… you may well be a social conservative, which is just as bad as being a liberal.

        Either way, though… you’re fucking irritating, and have chips on BOTH shoulders. Not that we haven’t seen your like here before…

        1. Relax dude, I was just jerking the chains on Sloopy, Groovus, and Banjos. Alan isn’t real. He’s just an anagram of “anal”, which is the best I can do when coming up with a sockpuppet name.

          1. Shit, Gojira… you put up a hella-good spoof.

  126. Or, if you prefer, alternate like Banjos does and be bi-threadal

    When chicks do it, it’s hot. Us guys, on the other hand, must choose a course and steer unwaveringly into the night.

    1. “At some point, we have to agree that bisexuals are just incredibly greedy fuckers. I mean, come down off the fence and pick a hole. I don’t care what you fuck, but fuck it regularly. Try and have some tubal integrity.” – Dennis Miller

      1. A statist always assumes choice is a bad thing.

  127. As a matter of fact, if I had to…..hahaha. I couldn’t keep a straight face any longer.

    Neither can she. Hey-oooooo! Seriously, sloop, you were starting to worry me. Uma as Peel makes Linda Thorson look like Liz Taylor (who BTW is posthumously auctioning off her jewelry to the estimated expected tune of around $50 million.) If I had a spare million Banjos, I would pick you up a bauble or two.

  128. Witty, wise, intelligent libertarian commenters, explain something to me, please, because I simply can’t figure it out.

    Res ipsa loquitur, Anal.

  129. Us guys, on the other hand, must choose a course and steer unwaveringly into the night.

    Quoth the Brooks: “C’mon, show a little backbone!”

  130. I was merely presenting an unpleasant way to die (I’m sure even open homosexuals have no desire to choke to death while practicing their perversion).

    You used the word as a slur against me personally. Again, color me surprised that the bigorati here are too witless to discern the distinction.

    Jim, this is your finest spoof yet! Excellent work! A+

    1. I’m hanging up the spoofing game for a few months. I was just getting irritated that I couldn’t do it very well, and people always immediately knew it was a stupid sock, so I wanted ot practice some. But seems like I’ve about got the shrillness/stupidity balance down, so I’m satisfied now.

    2. Also, I have to give a shout-out to some wackjob further upthread who kept talking about crapping in people’s mouths and weird stuff like that. He/she really inspired me to up the ante.

  131. Banjos, I would pick you up a bauble or two.

    Linking to Husker Du with promises of antique acoustic instruments is more than enough to win my affection.

  132. I hope now that he does not have to spend time running for office he will allow medical science to study him.

    He may have another whole career and billions to make for the treatment of low-T, as the tv ads say.

    A man undergoing chemo, colon cancer and surgery can still get it up in his 60s and service multiple women. People would pay a lot for his plasma.

  133. Wait a goddamn minute. Am I getting trolled by Jim?

    You asshole.

    1. You asshole.

      *bows* At your service.

  134. I’m in the mood to make some potato cakes. How would you guys proceed?

    1. Don’t make them. They’ll make you fat, and then we’ll have to put you in prison.

      1. I’m gonna take the girls out for some burgers

    2. For the love of God, do not shred your potatoes like some goy. Instead, puree them, form them into patties, and then fry.

  135. A man undergoing chemo, colon cancer and surgery can still get it up in his 60s and service multiple women. People would pay a lot for his plasma.

    Bruce, you may be on to something here. As refreshing and appealing as a political noob can be, his noobness certainly showed with this Ginger White episode, never mind his string of gaffes. I’m still not totally convinced of the initial wave of bimbo eruption, but the Ginger White thing certainly appears to have some teeth (ha!), so’s to speak. As admirable as prolific proficiency appears to be, I’m glad he’s hanging up the Cain presidential jockstrap; if he went into the foray thinking that serial philandering wouldn’t be dredged up by the media, then I certainly don’t want him in the WH.

    Also, with all the stupid things Joe Biden has said over the years, is it any wonder TEAM BLUE wants Obama to dump him and add either Hillary or Andrew Cuomo to the ticket next year?

    Anyone care to lay (ha!) odds on that one?

  136. Just come out and use the word “racist”, Tony… since you can’t read a fucking dictionary, go for the words with the most gusto.

    Thanks FIFY, you reminded me of great song.

    1. Thank you, Banjos, and thanks for the link. Bookmarked.

  137. I’m in the mood to make some potato cakes. How would you guys proceed?

    Sour cream. Only old farts do applesauce.

  138. Why does the American electorate soundly reject your platform and your ideas at every turn?

    Government schools.

  139. Greatest metal band that never made it. I had their album once, because the dude was driving around in his van selling home-made copies for $5 a pop. I fucking lost it in college, and now the band is no more and there’s no way to get that album back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy8YgX0UZDY

  140. Jim, that was awesome! There’s got to be someone who still has a copy of that album.

    Thanks for the link, bookmarked now.

    1. I blame austerity and libertarianism, which controls this gov’t. If you heartless skinflints had been willing to subsidize that young man, he would still be making music today!

  141. Someone asked for this?

      1. That’s Schei?e

        1. Stupid link fail
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

  142. Some of them have legitimate gripes, but it’s telling as to what most of them omit from their rants, and in some cases the utter cluelessness and self-entitlement is astounding.

    True, there is a vein of legit discontent, but the proscriptions to fix the problems voiced seem to involve more and more government intrusiveness, without exception. The disconnect is even more amazing. It’s like they were institutionalized or something.

    And these are the assholes who, by and large, will be in charge of the country in about 20-30 years.

    If everything goes according to plan, the Groovster will not be here when they are.

  143. Oh Groovster, all we wanted was a Pepsi.

  144. That’s Schei?e

    Gern geschehen! 🙂

  145. My favorite 99%-er was the woman who wants to “occupy a desk”.

    “If I just sit here 7 1/2 hours a day, they’ll give me a check! Skills? Value enhancement? What are those? Look at my fabulous new shoes (but not too closely, because that might make me uncomfortable, and then I will have to file a complaint with HR).”

  146. My favorite 99%-er was the woman who wants to “occupy a desk”.

    “If I just sit here 7 1/2 hours a day, they’ll give me a check! Skills? Value enhancement? What are those? Look at my fabulous new shoes (but not too closely, because that might make me uncomfortable, and then I will have to file a complaint with HR).”

    Brooksie, you magnificent bastard!

    Clearly, there is a market opportunity to be had here. Remember Garbage Pail kids? I propose a line of trading cards inspired by the likenesses of your favorite OWS’ers. A line of dolls would necessary follow, just like those Cabbage Patch Kids. Each doll, instead of an adoption certificate, comes with a college bill to pay off. Rape kits, pepper spray, and tuberculosis playsets sold separately, of course.

    Hand over fist, I tells ya!

    1. And some of them can come with rigor mortis in memory of the ones that keep popping up dead.

      1. “Occupy Hades”

    1. On Friday, Gonzalez was charged with criminal mischief and receiving stolen property, according to the Essex County Prosecutor’s Office, which is aiding in the investigation. Gonzalez is scheduled to appear in court Dec. 15

      Strange: I would have expected Grand Theft Auto, Felony Hit&Run; (x2), falsifying a police report, using the police car in the commission of a crime (GTA), use of a firearm in the commission of a felony (when he stole the car), etc.

      I’m sure a non-cop would have received the same courtesy.

      1. “We will investigate any officer who violates the law he or she is sworn to uphold just as vigorously as we do any common criminal who preys on our city.”

        They will investigate him just as vigorously, but they sure as fuck won’t charge him the same.

      2. Wait, so if he was only in possession of stolen goods, who did the stealing?

  147. How much has Jay Z profited off of these dumbshits so far?

    And they applauded him as he descended from his suite at the Plaza Hotel to sell them shirts and jam the money in his pockets.

    Motherfucker trolled them good and hard.

  148. “And anybody who believes in the ideology of Libertarianism who is not a multi-billionaire is a useful idiot ? or a psychopath who cannot think beyond his or her own needs and desires…

    “Libertarianism is early onset Communism.”

    The Libertarian Disease

    Documenting America’s Race to Global Technotalitarianism
    http://www.channelingreality.com/Econ…..isease.htm

    1. Dinner is ready. Do you want crackers with your noodle soup?

      1. So fat.

  149. If one believes in property rights, refusing to leave upon being ordered to do so by agents of the property owner is an act of violence.

    I have no problem with those morons being arrested and charged with trespassing. Dispersing them with pepper spray just makes martyrs of them. This situation could have been effectively dealt with by just bodily hauling the lot of them off to jail. Instead, the cops just wanted some jollies.

    1. You dare speak against the truth of the righteous opposition to the HORtiCUl[N]Tural city-State?

      How many elven tree nymphs and ents have you raped today, anti-gamboler? How many of Mother Gaia’s holy children can you ravage before the gambol lockdown is lifted?

    2. LOL. Do you have any idea what sorts of injuries are likely to result from quickly and forcibly cuffing someone with zipties, while surrounded by 200

      Instead, the cops just wanted some jollies.

      This is so stupid you could probably power all the streetlamps in UC-Davis with it. The cops warned the people blocking the sidewalk individually that they were going to be pepper sprayed, several minutes before the event. They shook the canisters in preparation for spraying, again a minute or so before spraying, so that the obstructors had a chance to get out of the way.

      They CLEARLY were trying to get the people to leave without pepper spray being necessary.

      1. Asshole cops and asshole students, all in a single soup — grand, ain’t it?

  150. They shook the canisters in preparation for spraying, again a minute or so before spraying, so that the obstructors had a chance to get out of the way.

    Well, that clearly absolves them of any blame.

    And, besides, they were obviously perpendicular to the right of way.

    1. The cops had every right to pepper spray them immediately, with no warning, after it became clear they were attempting to unlawfully confine the police. I was showing that it was quite clear the cops DID NOT want to have to pepper spray their way out, as MS claimed.

      Just like you and I have the right to use force against people who attempt to unlawfully detain us.

      Oh wait…libertarians are FOR double-standards in this case.

  151. I’m fat.

  152. I’m fat.

    1. Extremely fat.

      1. Not just “I used to be active and let it get away from em a little” fat, but “I was never anything but disgustingly obese, and it’s obvious that as I age I’ll develop that gross pouch that hangs over my crotch” fat.

  153. Alan, I’m not sure where you’re coming from politically.

    But many of the supposed Libertarians on this board are merely anti-cop, anti-military and fancy themselves as anti-nationalistic anarchists.

    These folks, and we all know who you are, care little about private property rights and other Constitutional issues of freedom.

    1. Very Very fat.

      1. Gojira copped to making up “Alan”. Damn good job he did, too.

  154. Dispersing them with pepper spray just makes martyrs of them.

    True, that. But it does beg the question “At what point is it no longer acceptable to demonstrate?” I get the right to peacefully assemble in protest, and fully support that, but when do you draw the line? The whole point of protesting something is to be such a thorn in the side of the proponents of what is being protested is to effect change. When the groups turned into nothing more that a real life version of Lord of the Flies, these goofballs found the self-ordering nature of anarchy is not always pretty.

    I, for one, am not convinced they have scurried away with tails tucked b’twixt legs; they are merely regrouping via social media and will reemerge when the weather and social climate is a bit more forgiving. Tulpy Poo predicted this and I think he is spot on: Entitlement doesn’t go away overnight and, in more and more cases, is proving a terminal condition.

    Hell, he’s a college professor: he has probably seen the entitled human debris piled up on campus more than many of us.

    1. Here in Pittsburgh they don’t seem to be camping out (due to the terrain, there frankly isn’t enough open, flat space in heavily trafficked areas). They do march through the Oakland neighborhood (where the big colleges are) occasionally, with a police escort, and block traffic on Forbes Ave for several minutes during rush hour as the hundreds of them cross the street.

      1. Then every one of them should be ticketed for jaywalking. Over and over and over again until they can’t afford the tickets anymore.

        They do not have the right to prevent people from moving freely.

        1. The traffic signals were preempted by police officers on foot directing traffic, so they weren’t jaywalking.

          1. Then the protesters didn’t hold up traffic, the cops did.

            Easy problem to solve: you tell the people to stop crossing and when they don’t, you ticket them for jaywalking. Wash. Rinse. Repeat until they are broke or don’t show up for court, which is contempt.

            1. I’m not claiming they were doing anything illegal. I just thought it was annoying and unlikely to win the 99% to their cause.

              1. I know you weren’t. I’m just saying that would be a pretty easy way for the cops to keep the protesters from getting their desired impact.

                1. Time and a half pay for pretty easy work baby sitting spoiled but passive over grown brats, that is the desired impact.

    2. The whole point of protesting something is to be such a thorn in the side of the proponents of what is being protested is to effect change.

      Of course, but the point of “peaceable” assembly is for people to communicate their grievances to passers-by (and in this period of history, to those watching on TV etc), not to completely disrupt the functioning of the surrounding community.

      The Tea Party did the former, OWS is in some cases crossing the line into the latter.

    3. The whole point … is … to effect change without going through the hassle of participating in the political system and persuading a majority of people to vote the way you wish them to. It is to allow a tiny number of people to create an excuse for unscrupulous politicians to make changes that are not supported by anywhere near the majority of voters while claiming to be responding to the wishes of the public.

      The 60s generation can’t die off soon enough.

  155. The cops had every right to pepper spray them immediately, with no warning, after it became clear they were attempting to unlawfully confine the police.

    Be serious, Tulpa. The cop didn’t spray the people allegedly surrounding him. He sprayed the idjits sitting on a step. This does nothing to dissipate the tension. If anything, it provokes the others to violence.

    1. You’re lying. Again.

  156. They CLEARLY were trying to get the people to leave without pepper spray being necessary.

    I watched the entire video, sans truncation, and I have to admit, Tulpy’s right. There is a difference between righteous objection and flat out baiting and the students failed in making that distinction. I do wonder if there is a better way to resolve these situations than aerosol tamale seasoning, however.

    Again, what is the tipping point here with principled protestation and a Rousseau inspired mob?

    Asshole cops and asshole students, all in a single soup — grand, ain’t it?

    Thunderdome, anyone?

    1. Yes, there were many students baiting the cops Hell, there were obviously protesters penning the cops in. And those fuckers deserved to have force used against them.

      That said, the people who were sitting down with arms locked (that Pike stepped over easily in the video I posted) were not engaged in that behavior.

      IOW, they used the right amount of force…against the wrong people.

      1. Please define “penning the cops in”.

        By the meaning I understand the phrase to have, the people who got sprayed were doing exactly that.

        1. I’m pretty sure sitting on the ground with arms interlocked with cops walking in front of you, beside you, around you, behind you and over you isn’t.

          1. So you’re not going to define it.

            1. OK, I will.

              Penning in entails actively preventing the free movement of the officers, including preventing the officers from walking through or around you.

              And the people seated clearly do not meet that standard.

              1. I have no problem forcing cops to physically lift people whom they have arrested over a row of people blocking their way. If the cops were to drop the detainees while do so, I would not blame the cops in any way.

              2. Actively? None of the other people were “actively” preventing the cops from egress either, yet you say they were penning them in.

                1. But they were. They kept moving to stay in the way of the officers.

                  The ones seated (that Pike walks over easily) were behaving differently.

  157. Tulpa, I ain’t lying. At the beginning of the video he steps over the people sitting on the step. If he’s surrounded, those kids sure ain’t doing a good job of it. And again, he sprayed the kids sitting on the step, not the group “surrounding” him.

    I agree that the little monsters should be arrested. Pepper spraying them was gratuitious.

    1. Explain how you’re supposed to transport prisoners across that line without risking injury.

      Arresting them probably would have resulted in much greater injury to the “kids” (I note that you’re infantilizing them).

      You guys act like the cops could have just waved a wand and everyone would be arrested. You’re wrong.

      1. If you are dragging one of them in cuffs and others prevent you from doing it, then pull out the spray and use it on the people who are actively preventing you from doing your job.

        Again, not opposed to them spraying the assholes penning them in, but these people were not doing that, evidenced in the first second of the video where Pike steps over them pretty easily.

        1. Um, you seem to not be considering the mechanical difficulty of dragging a person over a line of people.

          Imagine that cop stepping over the penners while dragging a 250 lb bag of salt behind him.

          1. Since that didn’t happen, I don’t see how you can make that assumption.

            And the second a group of people moved to stay in the cop’s way when he was transporting someone (whether walking them or dragging them), then that person is actively resisting and is subject to an increased level of force.

            1. We’re talking about regular ordinary cops here, not a bunch of Ndamakong Suhs.

              1. We’re talking about regular ordinary cops here, not a bunch of Ndamakong Suhs.

                True, but those fuckers are working in Fullerton already.

  158. after it became clear they were attempting to unlawfully confine the police.

    It is plainly obvious from their body language, those policemen believed they were in mortal peril. It’s a wonder they didn’t use lethal force.

    Such an admirable display of professionalism and restraint.

    1. You know, I’m beginning to come around to this tactic of not using the reply button that you started. It allows you to quote people out of context and put words in their mouths because many readers won’t bother to search through the thread looking for the original comment you’re replying to.

      It has significant advantages for people who seek to push their views in a dishonest fashion.

  159. Contrary to popular belief, the psychopath is not automatically violent. Rather, the psychopath is defined by a near-complete lack of empathy. Robert Hare (who created the widely used “Hare Psychopathy Checklist”) describes psychopaths as “instraspecies predators” who use a combination of charisma, manipulation, intimidation, sexuality and violence to satisfy their own desires. The more human qualities of conscience, empathy, remorse or guilt are either completely absent or extremely limited. It must be repeated that the psychopath is not necessarily violent. Indeed, many are not because their lives have never placed them in a position where violence was the only means to satisfy their desires. Many businessmen (and therefore, many politicians) profile as psychopaths because they exhibit the core characteristics or some section thereof.

    The Psychopathology of Ayn Rand
    Posted by Prophet 451
    http://journals.democraticunde…..et_451/168

  160. If that li’l redhead on the right isn’t “for Cain” anymore I can give her something to believe in;-)

  161. You know, I’m beginning to come around to this tactic of not using the reply button that you started.

    Correction, P Brooks never stopped eschewing threaded comments. We who have seen the light, so’s to speak, are merely catching up.

  162. Explain how you’re supposed to transport prisoners across that line without risking injury.

    Arresting them probably would have resulted in much greater injury to the “kids” (I note that you’re infantilizing them).

    You guys act like the cops could have just waved a wand and everyone would be arrested. You’re wrong.

    I’ll quote your whole post so you don’t think I’m taking you out of context.

    It’s not my impression that the cops, when they’re arresting many many members of a group, carry them off one-by-one to the paddy wagon. They zip tie up a bunch at once, then carry them off. They could have done this easily with the group sitting on the step.

    And yes, I am infantalizing them, because they’re generally acting like a bunch of infants. The cops are supposed to be the grown-ups in this situation. Instead they acted like the drunken father who kicks the dog.

  163. When Rand became ill with lung cancer late in life, she was faced with a similar issue. She knew Oncology care could be expensive and although the years had been relatively kind to Rand in terms of ability to make a living from her words, she opted to forego her convictions. She went on the very same successful, but very socialist program called Medicare. And mind you, this was early 80’s dollars, well before the runaway costs we now face from this profit driven system. Rugged individualism turned as rancid as the cancer inside of her.

    Rand’s convenient ideological amnesia did not represent a death bed conversion, but a measured casting out of principles for self preservation and gain. The ultimate unmasking of an unworkable theory. The simple fact that this woman, with the advantage of wealth and friends in elevated places would not shoulder the responsibility of her own health care, exposed the philosophy for what it was: impractical and brutal.

    Rancid Individualism and Ayn Rand’s America
    by Kathleen Wallace Peine / March 26th, 2011
    http://american-psycho-path.bl…..m-and.html

    1. Holy cow! I’ve never heard this before. Thanks for copypasta-ing it here.

      1. so hit me up

        1. No thanks. Unlike Jerry Sandusky, I don’t fuck children.

          1. You’re a mooching parasite. Especially when you drive public roads.

            Your lame excuses do not absolve you.

            1. You’re an odd one.

              1. Ambiguity or speaking cryptically: a means of creating a feeling of insecurity in others or of disguising one’s own insecurities.

                1. I’d fuck children.

                  1. Let’s have lunch, Jason.

                    1. please make a note of it

                    2. You know nothing of my work.

            2. You’re a mooching parasite. Especially when you drive public roads.

              Your lame excuses do not absolve you.

              You’re a mooching parasite. Especially when you shop for groceries, use public roads, buy clothes, and turn on your computer.

              Your lame excuses do not absolve you.

    2. Yeah! Way to make fun of an old lady for getting cancer. You’re totally well suited to judge people for lacking empathy.

    3. Guess what? She paid a bunch of money into that program, so she got to take it. Perfectly within Objectivist conduct to take everything you can from the government and give nothing back. It’s my plan, shared by some other Objectivists and libertarians, to fight the state: take the money they offer and then fuck ’em at the ballot box and the court of public opinion. What are you going to do about it?

  164. The thing about trains… it doesn’t matter where they’re going. What matters is deciding to get on.

  165. I detect a lot of passive aggressive behavior in this thread.

    1. A pervasive pattern of negativistic attitudes and passive resistance to demands for adequate social performance, beginning by early adulthood with Atlas Shrieked and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:

      1. passively resists fulfilling routine social tasks
      2. complains of being misunderstood and unappreciated by others
      3. is sullen and argumentative
      4. unreasonably criticizes and scorns authority and government
      5. expresses envy and resentment toward those apparently more fortunate political connections
      6. voices exaggerated and persistent complaints of personal misfortune at the hands of “collectivists”
      7. alternates between hostile defiance and contrition

      1. = “government must NEVER be criticized, unless it’s run by Team Red.”

        1. “expresses envy and resentment toward those apparently more fortunate political connections” mean? Are we supposed to be GRATEFUL about it?

          1. Only if we’re the ones getting the fortunate political connection goodies.

          2. I am grossly obese.

  166. Tony|12.4.11 @ 5:49PM|#
    …”It’s license to do as little as possible for society while asking from it the maximum liberty.”

    No shithead, I do not ask “society” for liberty; I have liberty in spite of shitheads like you trying to take it away.
    Further, shithead, I do not owe “society” anything, shithead.
    Freedoms are “unalienable” shithead; I do not negotiate for them.

    1. shithead

    2. You make your own roads, do you?

      1. …who uses public services and goods is a mooching parasite satanist/socialist sinner. But I have an indulgence purchased from the libertarian priestcraft.

        1. Speakikng of parasites, if I had a tapeworm I wouldn’t be so fat.

    3. Good summation, Sevo.

    4. Until the first autocrat comes along and you’re too up your own ass to pay for an army. Freedom is not the default human condition. It took a lot of work and luck to be possible. You want the liberty a teenager living with his parents wants: the absolute kind, but no paying rent.

      1. So… what IS the default human condition? Servitude to the state?

        Yeah, that’s probably it.

        1. Michelle Obama?

          1. I laughed too hard at that. Looks like another night in the Lincoln bedroom for me.

            1. At least you get a bedroom… I have to sleep in this utility closet.

        2. To live in civilization ensures subjugation to the state.

          1. Live the Shackbrah Life?

            Tell us how you do that, 24/7.

            1. Are you kidding? My little Jason couldn’t spend ten minutes in a cabin, let alone sleep outside or make a campfire.

            2. There is no way to live a Non-State society lifeway presently; the invasion and occupation of the home planet by the city-Statists is 99.99% complete.

              And then thermonuclear war will complete the city-Statist CULTure’s death dance.

              There is no alternative to hell.

                1. No use in being a stupid libertard who holds the contradiction that the city-State (civilization) is benevolent, but somehow the State is simultaneously evil.

                  1. …you *can’t* live the Shackbrah Life.

                    Who holds the contradiction now?

                    1. …he won’t live that life. But he can browbeat and lecture others for not doing it.

                    2. The libertards here refuse to consider empirical data by falsely claiming one must live a paleolithic lifestyle to acknowledge its benefits.

                      The last 50 years of anthropology and archeology have completely destroyed the premises upon which libertarianism rests.

                      It doesn’t matter what lifestyle anybody lives who debunks the Hobbesian mythology.

                    3. …you espouse the Shackbrah Life, but you don’t live it.

                      That, is the contradiction.

                    4. …but drive public roads.

                      How’s that city-Statism that you espouse working out for you?

                    5. I pay for those fucking roads, you stupid git. I’m damn gonna fuckin’ drive them.

                    6. See how easy that was?

                      The invasion and occupation of the home planet by the city-Statists is 99.99% complete.

                      But it’s collapsing as we type. You’ll whine and die, I’ll gambol.

                    7. …you insist you *can’t^ gambol, because of that filthy civilization you hate so much.

                      Which is it, Jason?

                    8. …after agriCULTural city-Statism (civilization) blows itself to smithereens.

                      IS WORLD NUCLEAR WAR INEVITABLE?
                      How U.S. and Israeli Aggression are leading us to World Nuclear War
                      http://carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/

                      This death CULTural stuff isn’t difficult. Oh wait, you take Mises seriously.

                    9. The last 50 years of anthropology and archeology have completely destroyed the premises upon which libertarianism rests.

                      You sound butthurt just because no one wants to live like homo habilis, primitard.

                    10. Notice the Jew-hate he slipped in there, Red… guilty conscience on his part?

        3. The question is meaningless. Humans can be in a state of famine and misery or they can have a high standard of living. Neither happens by magic.

          1. …”state of famine and misery” or “high standard”, are the only choices?

            1. is thoroughly debunked by empirical observation

              1. …there ARE only the two choices. Thanks for bolstering!

                1. You know nothing of my work.

            2. “state of famine and misery” or “high standard”, are the only choices?

              … subsist on magic mushrooms and do both?

            3. No, of course there’s a spectrum. No matter where you are on it, it didn’t happen automatically, but because of choices humans make. You invoke first principles as an excuse to absolve yourself of the moral horror of your system (convenient, as that system is the justification for everything you want in life). A “default” condition is bible talk, substitute sin with liberty. A religion that requires no penance.

              1. …what about trust-fund babies? What choice did THEY make, getting rich?

                1. …Tony hates freedom.

                2. All wealth should be confiscated for the masses upon death!!!

                  No person should be allowed to give any of their property away, ever!!!

                  DIAF, you cunt.

                  1. You’re being way too kind there, sloopy.

      2. Tony|12.4.11 @ 9:32PM|#
        “Until the first autocrat comes along and you’re too up your own ass to pay for an army.”

        Yes, shithead, there are shitheads like you who are more than willing to use force to constrain freedom.
        And, yes, I’m willing to pay so that you lose.
        But, shithead, all that proves is that you and others like you are shitheads more than willing to use force to constrain freedom, shithead.
        Now, are you finished with your ignorant statements, shithead?

        1. …to constrain Non-State society freedoms, and enforce Gambol Lockdown.

    5. You’re letting your bigotry show, Sevo.

      1. Tony|12.4.11 @ 9:45PM|#
        “You’re letting your bigotry show, Sevo.”

        Yes, shithead, I am somewhat ‘bigoted’ against sleazy shitheads, shithead.
        Is that clear?

        1. Process of elimination makes the spoofer… I think everyone knows.

          1. Oh, who am I kidding?

  167. tarran|12.4.11 @ 2:06PM|#
    “I think you are probably right. They did get pretty close to capturing Moscow despite vacillating between conquering Moscow and conquering the Ukraine, however. I expect that a less impulsive and meddlesome Hitler could have allowed the German generals to come up with a plan that would have worked.”

    See “Wages of Destruction”, Adam Tooze.
    There *was* no viable plan; they were tapped out. *IF* they had captured Moscow in six weeks (as they hoped), they would have, well, captured Moscow. And had to support a garrison in Russia which they couldn’t afford.
    Hitler didn’t want to hear about ‘economic limitations’, so he didn’t.

    1. He should have invaded the Middle East instead, and met up with the Japs in India.

      1. Tsunami Tulpa|12.4.11 @ 9:37PM|#
        “He should have invaded the Middle East instead, and met up with the Japs in India.”

        Couldn’t.
        The Nazis didn’t have the resources to reach that far, nor did the Japanese.
        And the Japanese occupations had already made the Indian population less than thrilled with replacing the Brits with the Japanese, regardless of Bose’s hopes.

    2. Sevo is correct. Remember…Napolean actually did capture Moscow. And it didn’t do him a damn bit of good. The Russians just pulled back a few miles, sat down, and sent the Cossacks out to ravage his supply and rear areas until he had to retreat with the coming of winter. Something like less than one quarter of the army that went into Russia came back out of it.

      Just leave the Russians alone. They probably cannot be conquered by any conventional means (i.e. short of nuclear devastation), and anything else you’re just asking for a bloodbath.

      1. “Just leave the Russians alone. They probably cannot be conquered by any conventional means (i.e. short of nuclear devastation), and anything else you’re just asking for a bloodbath.”

        And why would anyone bother? You wanna conquer a lot of vodka-swilling, czarist-loving, whiny linebackers?
        Leave that to Putin.

        1. Nobody is crazier than Russians.
          Except Ukrainians.

          1. And Georgians….

        2. And why would anyone bother?

          Beats me, but a lot of would-be big-shots seem to want to try. And it isn’t just limited to Hitler; Patton would have had a go at it if he could have. And he was supposed to be a great historian who should have known better.

          1. Correction to above: meant to write, “…isn’t just limited to Hitler and Napoleon.”

          2. “And he was supposed to be a great historian who should have known better.”

            The best 4-star Division commander the Allies had.
            That’s a bit unfair, but only because he knew how to delegate.

            1. They should’ve done it. The allies should have done Operation Unthinkable right after WW2. Hindsight 20/20 of course. Would’ve gotten to Moscow and installed the correct government and left. Maybe leave a garrison behind.

              1. No way. The Red Army was short on food, but as far as fighting capability, they could eat scrap iron and shit railroad spikes by that time. Not to mention the sheer concentration of forces they had in central Europe.

                Oh, I think we could have gotten to Moscow…but like every single over invader in it’s history except for the Khans, we would have left much bloodier and shorter of men than when we arrived.

                1. Nuking a few Russian cities would’ve given them pause…

                  1. That would’ve fixed it for ya!

  168. We’re talking about regular ordinary cops here, not a bunch of Ndamakong Suhs.

    Dirtier player: The Fuzz or Suhs?

    1. I’m gonna have to say the fuzz to avoid being called a racist.

      1. Why avoid your true nature?

    2. Dick Kissbutt.

  169. very fat

    1. and about third grade

      1. And sensitive about it.

  170. Until the first autocrat comes along and you’re too up your own ass to pay for an army. Freedom is not the default human condition. It took a lot of work and luck to be possible. You want the liberty a teenager living with his parents wants: the absolute kind, but no paying rent.

    Whoever is spoofing Tony, this one is par excellance!

    “Freedom is not the default human condition. It took a lot of work and luck to be possible,” was an excellent garnish to the regular shit sandwiches served up by the resident High Chef of Mediocrity.

    1. …it’s a Tony spoof? It reads like pure Tony…

    2. GM,
      That is *pure* shithead.
      If it is a spoof, shithead would claim it as his own.

      1. shithead

        1. You know nothing of my work.

  171. He should have invaded the Middle East instead, and met up with the Japs in India.

    Remember what Wallace Shawn said about land wars in Asia…

  172. Heinlein quote on poverty in 3…2…1…

    1. “we’ll all be getting hungry by and by”

  173. All this White Indian talk makes me wish I could play Age of Empires III on my mac.

    1. The Borg, how does it work?

    2. on my mac.

      is that your iKraftdinner model?

  174. In the mid 1990 s,Nike ads are development to the top. In 1994 the cannes lions international, Nike President phil knight was awarded the title of the year’s best advertisers, 96 year, Nike won the United States “advertising time” best marketing experts, sales is even hit high, share prices rising unemployment, but since then all sorts of trouble also come: the reebok, adidas, old rivals have imitate nike shox fashion, at that time, sports stars smile on the TV screen to bloom. 1997 to 2000-12 Nike 19 years of age in the survey, 52% of respondents to mention that Nike without a brand, but in 1998 the figure dropped to 38%. Nike this once let their parents blood boiling “Justdoit”, because of apotheosis movement gradually loss of the young generation, it has some charisma. discount nike shox suppliers is no longer sanctified the perfect symbol, but the violence of their choice.

  175. In the mid 1990 s, Nike and Nike ads are development to the top. In 1994 the cannes lions international, Nike President phil knight was awarded the title of the year’s best advertisers, 96 year, Nike won the United States “advertising time” best marketing experts, sales is even hit high, share prices rising unemployment, but since then all sorts of trouble also come: the reebok, adidas, old rivals have imitate Nike, at that time, sports stars smile on the TV screen to bloom. 1997 to 2000-12 Nike 19 years of age in the survey, 52% of respondents to mention that Nike without a brand, but in 1998 the figure dropped to 38%. Nike this once let their parents blood boiling “Justdoit”, because of apotheosis movement gradually loss of the young generation, it has some charisma. Nike is no longer sanctified the perfect symbol, but the violence of their choice.

    1. I am intrigued by your rambling and wish to buy a pair of your sneakers.

    2. Man, liberals are right. Advertising really is a form of mind-control. I know have the insatiable need to buy knock-off sneakers on the internet.

      1. Grr, the above should be, “I know now have…”

        1. Did you run your Jim-speak through the same online translator as jean?

          1. It does has some charisma.

  176. Nike this once let their parents blood boiling “Justdoit”, because of apotheosis movement gradually loss of the young generation, it has some charisma. Nike is no longer sanctified the perfect symbol, but the violence of their choice.

    You know, for like $300 a month I’ll fix your english for you. I know you have the profit margin to do something better than run everything through an online translator.

  177. …will be mankind’s salvation from city-Statism.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IENKwa0-oPI

    It’s not nihilism when there’s hope.

    1. (sing that to “Marching to Zion.”

    2. Global Thermonuclear War…

      Wouldn’t you rather play a nice game of chess?

      1. …Americans watching Blade Runner in the theater.

        Don’t be Bright-Sided.

        Bright-Sided: How Positive Thinking Is Undermining America
        http://www.amazon.com/Bright-Sided-Po…..312658850/

        1. Funny story: I did get a happy ending in a movie theater while watching Pulp Fiction.

          I was too young when Blade Runner came out.

          1. I got a happy ending while watching Ace Ventura II, which was the best part of watching said movie.

            1. What’s most impressive is you were able to maintain an erection in a movie about as funny as Schindler’s List.

              As an aside, I had sex while watching Jaws on Friday night. Didn’t miss a second of the movie either.

              1. Mi esposa actually gets off on that sort of thing. The more blood, guts, and violence in a movie, the more action I get.

                I’ll come home from work, and she’s casually eating a plate of spaghetti & meatballs watching someone being graphically disembowled with power-tools.

                Schindler’s List was hilarious on MST3K, btw.

              2. As an aside, I had sex while watching Jaws…

                Also, I hope you timed your orgasm with when the shark blew up. Or at the very least, right before you got off, you looked at her and said in a strained voice, “Smile you son of a…”

              3. Schindler’s List had some decent sex scenes iirc.

              4. Wow… now that’s multitasking. You, sloopy, win one shiny internet.

                1. Chick I was with even asked me to pause it, which I wouldn’t do because I said I couldn’t find the remote (that I had slid under the couch).

                  Alas, I didn’t make it to the end. I blew up before the shark did.

            2. I got a happy ending while watching Ace Ventura II

              Lemme guess, the rhino “birth” scene.

              1. I can’t recall exactly when during the movie, as we had ceased to pay attention to it about ten minutes in.

                Oh, and this happened in a movie theater. We were sneaky, we were.

                1. Mr FIFY, you have given me yet another reason not to go to movie theatres: Sitting in the splooge of other people.

                  1. Hey! We were VERY conscientious!

                    Besides… we left no splooge. She was a swallower.

              2. Lemme guess, the rhino “birth” scene.

                Now that’s a meatus!

                Oh, and this happened in a movie theater. We were sneaky, we were.

                Holy shit, you paid to see that movie?

                1. Dollar-theater night, yo. Them was the days.

                  1. You are redeemed.

                    I fucked this girl a few years ago at a drive-in in Hanford, CA in my 1973 Cadillac Coupe de Ville.

                    The movie: 10,000 B.C.

                    1. Well, it’s easier to get away with shit in a drive-in, but I’ll grant you points for watching that particular movie, in a Caddy.

  178. tarran|12.4.11 @ 10:33PM|#
    “I think Tulpa is an Axis and Allies fan.”

    Do any of the WWII ‘games’ require consideration of the extant economic facts and variables?

    1. Hearts of Iron, which Pantsfan referenced above, does.

      I tried to play as Japan and lost immediately b/c I couldn’t figure out how to use the IJN to protect convoys, and the damned English sank all my merchant ships.

      1. “I tried to play as Japan and lost immediately b/c I couldn’t figure out how to use the IJN to protect convoys, and the damned English sank all my merchant ships.”

        Well, it wasn’t the Brits who did it, but at least the game found the Achilles Heel.
        Does it limit the replacements?

        1. Well I didn’t start a war with the U.S., but kind of couldn’t avoid it against England.

          You have to upgrade your nation’s industrial base & research basic technologies & shit like that.

          I actually hate the game, because it’s so overly involved and complicated. For example, you have to research the basic components of radar, long-range radio, etc., before you can research putting them together, and getting the damned tech. You have to manage the industrial output and decide where to throw your resources, etc.

          It’s very detailed and realistic, but so much so, that it’s not even fun to play anymore. If I actually wanted to run a fucking country, I’d run for president. I just want to play a game casually and enjoy it.

    2. Axis and Allies is supposed to, at least at a basic level. IE, the game is supposed to work such that if the Axis doesn’t win quickly, they don’t win. Don’t know if that actually is the case though.

    3. Are you kidding?!?

      They all suck at it…

      The thing is the armies’ capabilities are generally either full strength or the army is disbanded because it can’t be supplied (or is destroyed).

      You can have an army in combat continuously for years and it is at full strength.

      I did once try to play a game that claimed to model the economic stuff. I think it was called Global Supremacy. It was horrifically complicated; each turn had seven phases with lots of rules governing resource allocation. We realized it would be about 4 hours before we even got into battle, so we threw everything in the box and pulled out the Diplomacy set.

      BTW, had anyone here ever completed a game of Diplomacy? I havent. Usually after 4 hours, everyone is tired.

      1. Just like Settlers is supposed to take 25 minutes.

      2. “each turn had seven phases with lots of rules governing resource allocation. We realized it would be about 4 hours before we even got into battle, so we threw everything in the box and pulled out the Diplomacy set.”

        That’s what the Axis tried to do after econ matters began to define the war.
        Problem was they weren’t any better at the Diplomacy game.

    4. Avalon Hill’s Third Reich, perhaps?

  179. Gojira|12.4.11 @ 10:36PM|#
    …”Something like less than one quarter of the army that went into Russia came back out of it.”

    The French should have been so licky: One of the GREATEST uses of graphics I’ve EVER seen:
    http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/posters

  180. I didn’t remember off the top of my head, and was too lazy to look it up, so I didn’t want to make any baldly outrageous claims, but that looks pretty bad alright.

    And I disagree; I think the French should be less licky, if anything.

    1. How long will it take for vermin shit to turn “licky’ into a rant?

      1. I’m hoping he/she/it ties it into natural salt-licks found in the forest.

  181. I’m still very fat.

    1. So… Are you White Indian?

      1. Does the Pope shit in the woods?

    2. Jason Godesky’s body could feed an entire hunter-gatherer village for many moons.

      1. Well, at least he’ll never get to partake of the joys of Sugar Tits Cereal.

  182. Government employees are the most qualified to make decisions effecting the education of our children. Their strict adherence to policy makes them great arbiters of common sense.

    Just kidding. They’re fucking idiots.

    1. Telling another student the teacher is cute sounds harmless enough from where we sit, but that nine-year-old’s oppressive male gaze is what really made the punishment warranted.

      1. You know what’s cool? When a high school student overwhelms a really sexy ultra-liberal ultra-feminist with his charms and fucks her brains out in the janitor’s closet, and then walks away only to fist-pump his homeboys in celebration of “getting dat piece of ass”.

        Imagine the mind-numbing explosion of outrage and fury something like that would generate on Feministing or Jezebel.

  183. OT: “Republicans in Congress refused to accept Johnson’s terms, rejected the new members of Congress elected by the South, and in 1865?66 broke with the president. A sweeping Republican victory in the 1866 Congressional elections in the North gave the Radical Republicans enough control of Congress that they overrode Johnson’s vetoes and began what is called “Radical Reconstruction” in 1867.[2] Congress removed the civilian governments in the South[3] in 1867 and put the former Confederacy under the rule of the U.S. Army. The army conducted new elections in which the freed slaves could vote, while those who held leading positions under the Confederacy were temporarily denied the vote and could not run for office.”

    How many people actually know that? What do you think of it?

  184. Radical reconstruction was great for crony capitalism.

  185. Time to vote Epi off the island.

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