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Politics

Congress Lifts Horse Slaughter Ban

Baylen Linnekin | 11.28.2011 10:18 AM

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Congress's five-year-old ban on domestic horse slaughter died a quiet death right before Thanksgiving. The reason cited for ending the ban? A GAO report on unintended consequences, says the Oklahoman:

Members of Congress who decided to end the prohibition on domestic horse slaughtering relied heavily on research provided in June by the General Accountability Office, Congress' auditing arm.

At the request of top members of the subcommittees that oversee spending for the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the GAO looked into the effects of the ban — in place since 2006 — and released a report entitled "Horse Welfare: Action Needed to Address Unintended Consequences from Cessation of Domestic Slaughter."

Though there are some shades of gray, the report clearly connects the ban to an increase in abandoned horses, a drop in prices for some horses and a dramatic increases in exports of horses for slaughter.

"Horse welfare in the United States has generally declined since 2007, as evidenced by a reported increase in horse abandonments and an increase in investigations for horse abuse and neglect,'' the report states.

"The extent of the decline is unknown due to a lack of comprehensive, national data, but state officials attributed the decline in horse welfare to many factors, but primarily to the cessation of domestic slaughter and the U.S. economic downturn.

"Abandoned, abused, and neglected horses present challenges for state and local governments, tribes and animal welfare organizations."

More here.

As I noted during an earlier guestblogging stint here at Hit & Run in June, the unintended consequences GAO reported and that led Congress to act may have been unintended, but were nevertheless predictable:

[A] 2006 report, The Unintended Consequences of a Ban on the Humane Slaughter (Processing) of Horses in the United States… predicted, among other problems, that "[t]he potential for a large number of abandoned or unwanted horses is substantial."

Justifications for a ban were never clear nor convincing. For example, the claim (made by an official from a group that helped usher in the ban) that "we don't eat horses" is disingenuous and lacks support. Under the ban, Americans can't buy domestic horsemeat. What's more, while the completely NSFW case earlier this month of a Portland nudist who slaughtered and gutted a horse, posed for pictures inside the horse, and then ate the horse may be somewhat of an outlier, an unscientific CNN poll last year found 37% of respondents either had or would eat horse.

Another argument--that jobs slaughtering horses "are of dubious economic value to the individuals who take them"--doesn't even warrant a response beyond noting it for posterity.

So now that horse slaughter is coming back to the U.S., will you eat horse meat?

Baylen Linnekin is the director of Keep Food Legal, a nonprofit dedicated to preserving and increasing "culinary freedom," the right of all Americans to grow, sell, prepare and eat foods of their own choosing. To join or learn more about the group's activities, go here. To follow Keep Food Legal on Twitter, go here; to follow Linnekin, go here.

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  1. Warty   13 years ago

    Man: "Get your piping hot horse burgers horse fries, horse cakes and shakes. We got tongue, straight from the horse's mouth."
    Leela: "Hmm."
    Hermes: "It all sounds good."
    Man: "All our horses are 100% horse-fed for that double-horse "juiced-in" goodness."
    Leela: "I'll have the cholesterol-free omelet with horse-beaters."
    Man: "And you, Sir? How can I horse you?"
    Hermes: "I'll have a horse Coke."
    Man: "Horse Pepsi okay?"
    Hermes: "Nay."

    1. Poet Laureate sloopyinca   13 years ago

      Soylent Roan is horses!!!

  2. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

    I refuse to enjoy horse meat until alt-text comes back to the U.S.

    1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      Of course. Of course

      I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it.

  3. ?   13 years ago

    Other writers are so funny.

  4. rather   13 years ago

    It's uncivilized to eat an intelligent animal

    1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

      Mmmmmmmmm. Pork is sooooo tasty.

      Think I'm having bacon for dinner after a ham sandwich for lunch.

    2. o3   13 years ago

      horses are NOT self-aware unlike dolphins

      1. rather   13 years ago

        wrong

        1. Live Free or Diet   13 years ago

          I'm so hungry I could eat a horse!

          1. Sparky   13 years ago

            She's dead of course, she swallowed a horse.

            1. Old Salt   13 years ago

              That old children's rhyme takes on a WHOLE new meaning in this day and age!

    3. sarcasmic chinaman   13 years ago

      I think we should wok the dog.

      1. Wartie   13 years ago

        I'm woking it right now.
        Wait, wok or wank?

    4. Fatty Bolger   13 years ago

      That's OK, then. Horses are stupid. Like very fast cows.

  5. Joe M   13 years ago

    ...the completely NSFW case earlier this month of a Portland nudist who slaughtered and gutted a horse, posed for pictures inside the horse, and then ate the horse...

    Please, some of us are trying to eat breakfast. Keeping food legal won't help if we keep puking it back up.

    1. Warty   13 years ago

      Wasn't the case of the guy who died because his colon broke while he was being fucked by a horse from Portland, too?

      1. Joe M   13 years ago

        That horse must've had a million times more fiber than the average horse.

      2. Girl in Homeroom   13 years ago

        Ewww, gross!

      3. JD   13 years ago

        IIRC that was suburban Seattle. Must be something in the water in the PNW.

        1. Epi   13 years ago

          That was not me!

  6. albo   13 years ago

    No. I'd eat goat first, and I don't particularly want to eat goat.

    And I'm shocked that a legislative iniative could have unintended consequences. If only the real world would bend to the will of those with good intentions who close their eyes and wish really, really hard.

    1. Joe M   13 years ago

      Actually, I'm more shocked that Congress acknowledged the unintended consequences and undid its mistake.

    2. SugarFree   13 years ago

      Goat's OK. A little gamey. The worst part of goat is that it is all bones.

      1. Joe M   13 years ago

        It's extremely greasy too.

      2. R C Dean   13 years ago

        Properly done cabrito is better than OK, although I have to admit when I've had it it been pretty spicy. Didn't notice excess grease, but I'm not sure there is such a thing as too much delicious, delicious grease.

      3. Abdul   13 years ago

        I've had it both Caribbean style and Burmese style--in both cases it was so covered in curry that I couldn't tell it from lamb or beef.

  7. T   13 years ago

    Didn't somebody say something once about foreseeable consequences not being unintended? I could swear I heard that somewhere.

    I just want to know if we're going to get another influx of horse lovers telling us we're evil bastards. That ws some good comedy, and we've only gotten ruder since then.

    1. Warty   13 years ago

      Didn't somebody say something once about foreseeable consequences not being unintended? I could swear I heard that somewhere.

      You're thinking of the Iron Law.

      1. R C Dean   13 years ago

        Preach it, brother!

        Foreseeable consequences are not unintended.

    2. MNG   13 years ago

      " just want to know if we're going to get another influx of horse lovers telling us we're evil bastards. That ws some good comedy, and we've only gotten ruder since then."

      Jesus you are so COOL!

      Too Kool 4 Skool, certainly.

      1. T   13 years ago

        Ineffectually mocking me is adult behavior in what universe?

        Fuck you, you sanctimonious concern troll. Isn't there a fire somewhere you can martyr yourself in to express your disgust at all things which offend you? That'll force the world to recognize how special you really are, won't it? They'll see, then! All of them will see!

        Except us. We'll still think you're an obnoxious git.

        1. Teh rael MNG   13 years ago

          I'm above this. Actually, I'm above all of you. I should leave, but I will not. Not while the possibility remains that my pearls of wisdom may yet enrich some few among you.

        2. Nelson   13 years ago

          Your blog sucks.

          Ha ha!

    3. Kunty Kristen   13 years ago

      This should be added to the reason drinking game.

      1. MNG   13 years ago

        How much more adolscent can you be than smugly trumpeting "Man, we really offended those guys! Wan't that great."

        And for a small fringe political group it's the kind of mentality that keeps the movement nice and pure, and at 1% of the gen pop...

        1. heller   13 years ago

          If it keeps assholes like you out, I'm all for it!

          1. MNG   13 years ago

            Sorry, my feelings are not so fragile.

            But really, it's pretty tween behavior to act like that.

        2. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

          "And for a small fringe political group..."

          DRINK, I says!

          MNG and Ken Schultz should get together and form a club.

          1. SugarFree   13 years ago

            MNG and Ken Schultz should get together and form a club.

            Shut your whore mouth, you cunt.

          2. MNG   13 years ago

            If I were saying that you were wrong because you're small that would be silly. But I'm saying if you are at all concerned with your ideas becoming more popular then bragging about offending people is likely a bad strategy.

            1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

              Wait, wait? We're on Meet the Press? Is this thing on? Testing, testing...
              Nope. Nobody here but us libertards.

        3. Wartie   13 years ago

          How much more adolscent can you be than smugly trumpeting "Man, we really offended those guys! Wan't that great."

          A lot!

          1. MNG   13 years ago

            Well, of course I'd imagine Warty and the usual stooges could go further.

            Don't they have teen chatboards for folks like you to hang out at? You could post pictures of hot girls and ugly sows, talk about your favorite Game of Thrones or Harry Potter books, and make all kinds of hilarious curses and in-crowd jokes. It would be great.

            1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

              Don't they have, like, chatboards for grownup, mature, serious adults like, I dunno, David Brooks, to hang out on? Or even some for prigs like MNG?

            2. T   13 years ago

              That's Morning Links, 5 threads down.

            3. Beloved Rev. Blue Moon   13 years ago

              You got four sentences that time, MNG. However, I note that other posts do not contain the requisite level of length or substance. You have been warned.

              Oh, FOURTH SENTENCE.

          2. Warty   13 years ago

            +5 me

            1. Kramer   13 years ago

              You're still doing that?

              Soooo lame.

              1. Warty   13 years ago

                WE HATESES THE NASTY +1 GAMESES

                +1 me

        4. Kunty Kristen   13 years ago

          You've misread my motives. As a woman, I'm saying that word is not offensive. If you're offended by it, then I can't help you.

          1. Serious Guy   13 years ago

            As a woman, I'm saying that word is not offensive

            You speak for all women? Wow!

            OK, tell me: what do women want?

            1. Beloved Rev. Blue Moon   13 years ago

              Not you.

  8. MNG   13 years ago

    I think the argument should run like this. Horses have played a close and valued role on our culture both now and through much of our history. As a result we value them differently and don't want them to be part of the industrial food production we subject other animals too.

    1. heller   13 years ago

      And I value horses as food. Go figure.

      1. MNG   13 years ago

        Well, the way things work in a democracy is sometimes people oppose something that a few people will still want to engage in, and if the former are a majority they make it illegal anyway. See theft, child porn, dogfighting, etc., for examples.

        1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

          I wish a majority would vote to make it illegal for liberals to breathe.

          Since you unquestioningly support the will of the majority, you would stop breathing.

          I can dream....

          1. MNG   13 years ago

            You really are hung up on mass murder aren't you nut?

            1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

              Who said anything about murder?

              If a law is passed making it illegal for you to breathe, and you oblige by ceasing to breathe, where is the murder?

              1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                Democracy FTW!

        2. db   13 years ago

          I'm pretty sure Hitler would have eaten horses too. Only his vegetarianism stood in the way. Any other ridiculous false equivalences you wish to add?

          1. MNG   13 years ago

            Of course you think it is a false equivalence, because you don't find it so wrong. Of course, the thief, the dogfighter, etc., don't find what they do to be wrong either.

            1. db   13 years ago

              Well, i suppose there's only right and wrong and no scale in between, eh? There's a reason speeding isn't a capital crime.

              1. MNG   13 years ago

                Of course there are degree. Would you care to point out where I said otherwise?

                1. db   13 years ago

                  You basically go right for the most objectively despicable thing you could and then take offense at the claim of false equivalence? Eating beef is relatively uncontroversial. I make the claim that eating the meat of another domestic animal is simarly not a problem. You make the comemparison to the sexual exlloitation of minors.

                  1. MNG   13 years ago

                    1. Analogies, how do they work?
                    2. Actually, I listed three examples, all of varying degrees.

                    But nice try.

                2. db   13 years ago

                  You basically go right for the most objectively despicable thing you could and then take offense at the claim of false equivalence? Eating beef is relatively uncontroversial. I make the claim that eating the meat of another domestic animal is simarly not a problem. You make the comemparison to the sexual exploitation of minors. There is not a sliding scale of right-wrong for slavery and abuse, so your comparison implies that there is no degree in this matter.

        3. Joe M   13 years ago

          Prohibition, prostitution, etc.

        4. heller   13 years ago

          That's why mathematics is illegal right?

        5. heller   13 years ago

          You must be a troll, MNG isn't that stupid.

          1. MNG   13 years ago

            Lord, this tired line. Why not follow it with "MNG, you used to be better..." or something.

            Look, in society sometimes people who abhor something make it illegal even though there may be some folks who don't abhor it. Pointing out that is hardly trolling dude.

            1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

              What about people who abhor liberals?

              Is it OK to make it illegal to be a liberal?

              What if the sacred majority approves?

              1. MNG   13 years ago

                Sorry sarcy, I tend to not converse with people who regularly dream of mass murder like you do.

                This is what H&R has come from with its influx of Tweeners and Hit and Runpublicans, where someone can casually suggest masses of people die or be euthanized and no one bats an eye, but calling out people for trumpeting offending others is egregious.

                1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

                  But you say majority rule is sacred.

                  If the majority wanted to bring back slavery, then that's perfectly OK right?

                  If the majority wanted to legalize rape, then that's OK right?

                  Or do you mean the majority rules when you agree, and the courts should intervene when you don't?

                  That's what I thought.
                  Just another liberal hypocrite. But now I'm being redundant.

                  1. Britt   13 years ago

                    sarcasmic, you're so dumb. Those things are bad democracy, and MNG only likes good democracy.

                    Can't you tell the difference?

                2. o3   13 years ago

                  part n parcel of the gop audience whopping-it-up over an uninsured person being allowed to die on a hospital gurney.

          2. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

            Must...resist...

            1. MNG   13 years ago

              Oh Yawn CN, yawn.

              1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                Touche, old chap. Touche. Your insight into human nature is almost godlike, and you're always there with the bon mot, are you not?
                You are the epitome of mature, rational discourse.
                Next to you, we are all but children.
                (And I look forward to your next intellectual dual with John with bated breath.)
                You give me wings.

                1. tarran   13 years ago

                  Citizen nothing, since you don't know the difference between a dual and a duel, I find your post lacks substance.

                  1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

                    What the fuck do you want? It was tough enough getting "bated" right.

                  2. o3   13 years ago

                    but what about a duet ?

        6. Joe R.   13 years ago

          Therefore, we shouldn't do with horses what we do with cows, pigs, and a whole host of other animals. Fuck, man, it makes perfect sense now.

          1. MNG   13 years ago

            And I said why one could consider horses different above.

            1. Teh rael MNG   13 years ago

              It's enough to know that I consider horses to be different. Therefore you shall, too.

    2. Joe R.   13 years ago

      That's a lot of "we" and "our". How about, "If you don't want horses as food, don't eat them."

      1. MNG   13 years ago

        If you don't want abortions, don't have them. If you don't dogfights, don't have them. If you don't want child porn, don't have it.

        Look, when people abhor something they might prevent people who disagree with them from doing it.

        1. Live Free or Diet   13 years ago

          If you don't want abortions, don't have them.
          Look, when people abhor something they might prevent people who disagree with them from doing it.

          Force people who would otherwise kill their own babies to reproduce, filling society with lots of potential baby-killers?

          Nice place, that.

          1. Susan   13 years ago

            Which segues to, fertility regulator residues in horse meat can cause miscarriage in women. Even in minute amounts.

            The people selling it know, and now the American people have to pay for it.

            Nice industry, that.

    3. R C Dean   13 years ago

      As a result we value them differently

      Who is this "we"?

      And why should "their" values trump others?

      1. MNG   13 years ago

        1. A majority?
        2. Democracy?

        1. Yer mom...   13 years ago

          ...if everyone else gave handjobs for meth, would you?

          1. Teh rael MNG   13 years ago

            Gods, no. I am no prostitute. I give out handjobs freely.

        2. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

          Did I mention "godlike"? Because if I did not, I have done MNG a grave disservice.
          May God, nay, MNG himself, forgive me.

        3. R C Dean   13 years ago

          So, the tyranny of the 50.1% it is!

          1. tarran   13 years ago

            I take it MNG is having a melt-down over horse-slaughter?

    4. Sevo   13 years ago

      "...the industrial food production we subject other animals too."

      Well, if we kill 'em and eat one-at-a-time, you're jack with that?
      What a crock.

    5. Jersey Patriot   13 years ago

      Part of the valuable role of the horse was being eaten. Just because it didn't make the industrial slaughterhouse model doesn't mean it wasn't consumed. At best, your argument is that horses shouldn't be industrially produced in CAFOs, not that horses shouldn't be eaten entirely.

      "Yick" is not a law.

  9. heller   13 years ago

    Horse meat is pretty meh. Buffalo, ostrich, and alligator are all tastier.

    1. o3   13 years ago

      agree. ate some in the FRG

      1. Old Salt   13 years ago

        Being a Floridian, I can tell you that a good rule of thumb down here is that the quality of a mom and pop restaurant is directly proportional to the quality of their gator dishes.

  10. P Brooks   13 years ago

    may be somewhat of an outlier

    Piffle!

    FYI: Goat are delicious.

  11. Warty   13 years ago

    Anybody ever eat whale?

    1. db   13 years ago

      The gunt is the most flavorful part!

    2. sarcasmic   13 years ago

      I remember seeing it for sale in the grocery store when I was a child, but don't think I ever tried it.

    3. heller   13 years ago

      I've heard whale bacon is very good.

      1. Old Salt   13 years ago

        Show me bacon that DOESN'T taste good and I'll show you BLASPHEMY!

        1. Beloved Rev. Blue Moon   13 years ago

          turkey "bacon". Blah.

          1. Old Salt   13 years ago

            BLASPHEMY!

  12. P Brooks   13 years ago

    As a result we value them differently and don't want them to be part of the industrial food production we subject other animals too.

    "WE"?

    You toss that around a lot. If the thought of eating Mister Ed makes you queasy, don't do it.

    1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      Fun fact: I hate seafood. It's super gross. Maybe I should lobby for a no-fish-for-food law.

      1. SugarFree   13 years ago

        I'm allergic to shellfish. I want to join your fight in keeping everyone else from eating it.

        1. Sparky   13 years ago

          Perhaps you could find a way to work it in alongside peanuts and start a general shelled-food ban. Just think of all the good that could be done.

          Disclaimer: I don't want peanuts banned, they are delicious. Anyone that would willingly eat an ocean bug should be shunned anyway though.

        2. sarcasmic   13 years ago

          I'm lactose intolerant.

          It's simply not fair that my body cannot digest dairy, and I feel that because of this nobody should be able to consume it.

          I want to see all dairy declared illegal!

        3. Old Salt   13 years ago

          One of my old girlfriends used to claim that her ex-husband was allergic to cunnilingus...

          1. Sevo   13 years ago

            I'm amazed at those who like bananas.
            Once you peel one and throw away the bone, there's not a whole lot left to eat.

          2. SugarFree   13 years ago

            Most men's aversion to cunnilingus can be understood as a tragedy of the commons.

        4. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

          So you're saying you're not into The Virtue of Shellfishness?

          Thanks. I'll be here all week. (True story.)

          1. Beloved Rev. Blue Moon   13 years ago

            Winner winner chicken dinner.

          2. SugarFree   13 years ago

            [groan]

        5. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

          Is there anything your week body can consume?

          1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

            I forget, is that Joe'z law or RC's?

            1. Beloved Rev. Blue Moon   13 years ago

              joe'z.

              1. SugarFree   13 years ago

                Nope, it's RC's...

                joe'z law is about people making fun of other people's spelling or grammar with a post that commits an error in spelling or grammar.

  13. John Thacker   13 years ago

    Wow, Congress actually listened to the GAO for once?

  14. P Brooks   13 years ago

    I hate seafood. It's super gross.

    The government should ban it, in order to protect your delicate sensibilities.

    Just as soon as they create a BMI-based licensing scheme for women who want to wear tight, clingy clothing.

    1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

      Put a max size limit on fitted women's clothing. Say size six or something.

      Anything larger must resemble a shapeless bag.

      1. T   13 years ago

        There's a store down here that advertises (on their awning) lingerie to 5X. I have yet to set foot in there for fear of what I might see.

        1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

          Here's something you won't see in there.

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....pants.html

          1. T   13 years ago

            Y'know, I see lots of women out walking dogs in my neighborhood and none of them dress like that.

            Of course, that's probably a good thing.

    2. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      Surely there are enough resources to pursue both at once? If not we better raise taxes.

  15. P Brooks   13 years ago

    Must...resist...

    Feel the power.

    Embrace the Dark Side, Citizen.

    1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      If you reasonable me, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

  16. Silver Fox   13 years ago

    Somewhere, Ingrid Newkirk and Wayne Pacelle are having fits over this change in the laws.

  17. Guy LeDouche   13 years ago

    The Dorthraki in me rejoices.

  18. Susan   13 years ago

    No, I won't eat horse meat. Like most Americans, I don't eat companion animals. Like over 70% of Americans, I want horse slaughter stopped.

    Even if I was starving, I would not eat it. US horse meat is not fit to eat. Drug testing the EU is doing right now show enough drugs in US horse meat to be a serious health risk, especially to children.

    I don't want to get cancer, fatal aplastic anemia, catastrophic liver failure etc from meds like Bute routinely given to US horses that are banned from food animals.

    By voting to spend our hard-earned money for horse slaughter, Congress had to ignore peer review science about health risks piled up to the moon and back.

    What we learned from this: The US Congress is on the take from special interests that pushed this through, ignoring the truth about health dangers and horrible abuse - documented by the Federal government - back when horse slaughter was "regulated" on US soil.

    We have better use of our budget money than slaughtering horses to feed wealthy Europeans. The USDA doesn't have enough resources to keep our OWN food safe. We should be using our money to feed our OWN people, not lining the pockets of foreign horse slaughter companies - in Belgium - that pay no US taxes.

    Way to go, Congress. The miscarriages caused by progesterone fertility drugs given to mares are your responsibility. So are thousands of stolen horses taken from families by shady horse slaughter dealers, and slaughtered before the police can catch them.

    I hope the lobby money is worth it.

    1. Beloved Rev. Blue Moon   13 years ago

      Even if I was starving, I would not eat it.

      Clearly you have never been starving.

    2. Britt   13 years ago

      Wait, is the FedGov actually spending money on horse slaughter? Because I thought they just repealed the ban?

      1. Susan   13 years ago

        Congress passed a funding bill last week with up to $5 million of taxpayer money to help run foreign owned horse slaughter plants, paying Federal employees to inspect.

        History: Congress passed a funding bill about 5 years ago that stopped using taxpayer money to inspect these foreign owned plants. It's illegal to ship across state lines without inspections. The USDA is a tool of Big Ag, so it tried to circumvent Congress by taking money for the inspections from the offshore corporations. That was illegal and Federal courts stopped it.

        Now Congress put money back in the budget to fund these inspections. However, the states where these plants were before all have laws now banning horse slaughter. What does THAT tell you!

        Horse slaughter - the pollution, cratering property values, blood dumped in rivers (Saskatchewan Canada plant, bankrupt after bilking millions from the Canadian taxpayers) is about as welcome as a fart in an elevator.

        Horse thieving went down 37% in California the year after they passed their horse slaughter ban. Horse slaughterers are the ultimate troll.

    3. T   13 years ago

      Aaaand, here they are! Right on schedule!

      So, Susan, how did you find out about this post? Is there a horse lovers news network that alerts you, or do you just search the web for 'horse slaughter'? I'm genuinely curious.

    4. Fatty Bolger   13 years ago

      Even if I was starving, I would not eat it.

      Interesting. We should test this assertion. I can pretty much guarantee that you will lose.

    5. slp   13 years ago

      ... I want horse slaughter stopped.

      "... and if wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak."
      ? Jayne Cobb

      The USDA doesn't have enough resources to keep our OWN food safe.

      Government regulators do not keep food safe, the food industry does. What the USDA does is provide a convenient scapegoat for when an issue does arise; the culprit can simply point to their USDA inspection and escape serious blame.

      1. Susan   13 years ago

        Most civilized cultures have a line in the sand as to what they eat.

        For most normal Americans, other human beings and companion animals cross that line. You'll get your occasional Jeffry Dahmer, of course, but as a culture Americans don't consume dogs, cats, horses or other people.

        If there are people posting here who don't have any boundaries on what they eat, maybe post zip codes so the rest of us can look out for them.

        Anyhow, most Americans these days don't look like they've missed a meal, so the question of starving is not relevant. The market price of horse meat in Europe is way too high to feed starving people, there it's marketed as an upscale product.

        Doesn't look like responders read the rest of the post, about drug contamination in US horse meat. There were some really big words there, to be sure, but the science is well documented in peer review journals in the US, and in Europe in post-mortem assay tests of US horses.

        Here's where this is headed: Horse slaughter will soon cost all horse owners. The EU knows there's widespread lying going on now on the affidavits required of US horse exporters. So by 2013, all US horse owners are facing an expensive microchip drug registry, just so a few knuckle draggers (representing 1% of horses that die) can go on slaughtering. That's welfare for horse slaughterers paid for by the rest of the horse industry.

        The racing and breeding industry's shameful use of horse slaughter - while accepting state subsidies from VLT's - is a serious food safety problem. To those waxing poetic about the prospect of consuming US horse meat, you are gambling without a chance of a pick six win. Enjoy the snake venom, milk shakes, Lasix, Phenylbutazone, nerve block drugs, Etorphine, ITPP, female hormones and so on, gentlemen!

        The Darwinian selection of those choosing healthier food than drug-tainted US horse meat means horse slaughter may be a dying industry. Literally.

  19. P Brooks   13 years ago

    Dear "Susan"

    Please cease your imbecilic yawping and return to your regular concern trolling haunts.

    1. Citizen Nothing   13 years ago

      That does it Brooks. Your childish antics have finally doomed the entire libertarian philosophy. I hope you're happy, you fuck.

  20. Poet Laureate sloopyinca   13 years ago

    Soylent Roan is horses!!!

  21. Joshua Corning   13 years ago

    Horse meat is pretty prominent in the smash hit game Skyrim.

    NPC vendors pay more for it then venison.

    I am pretty sure this is the reason why congress changed the law.

  22. .   13 years ago

    What about lifting the ban on slaughtering horses' asses? Or would that be too detrimental to the interests of our masters?

  23. not spam   13 years ago

    How about lifting the ban on the slaughtering of horses' asses - or would that be too detrimental to the interests of our rulers?

  24. P Brooks   13 years ago

    Your childish antics have finally doomed the entire libertarian philosophy. I hope you're happy, you fuck.

    *dances "Snoopy dance"*

  25. Proprietist   13 years ago

    One of my regrets from my time living in Japan was watching the raw horsemeat sushi pass me by on a sushi boat and not having the cojones to try it at the time.

  26. .   13 years ago

    Hey Mr. Webmaster:

    You have a hundred and something stupid comments on this thread and yet your "third-party spam filter" keeps blocking my sensible one? Loser!

  27. Banjos   13 years ago

    Reminds me of this.

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  29. papa mike   13 years ago

    In operating a ranch I've had the opportunity to eat horse meat many a time. It's no different than beef, it's meat. Nothing goes to waste on a working farm. A horse breakes a leg and you butcher it. The meat is much more red than beef, but you really can't tell the difference.
    To many people think of them as pets is why they wouldn't eat the meat. It's meat.

  30. blorjr   13 years ago

    In the obama world we will all be eating horses just like you see in the old ww2 films when society collapsed.

  31. cheap corsets   13 years ago

    Do you want to find cheap corsets online? If you do you won't be the only one. Everyone is trying to cut back on what they spend these days, but most of us are reluctant to stop spending money altogether, especially when it is on something that makes us feel so good.

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