Reason Morning Links: Obama Administration to Sell the U.A.E. Bombs to Counter Iran, Senate Approves Parts of Jobs Bill, NATO May Investigate Self About Libya, Herman Cain is Tied for Frontrunner


  • The Obama administration is preparing to sell thousands of high-tech munitions to the U.A.E., in order to further build a coalition against Iran and its nuclear program, says The Wall Street Journal. 
  • On the eve of Veterans Day, the Senate approved a portion of Obama's jobs bill that repeals a business tax and gives a tax credit for businesses who hire veterans. 
  • Worried about a potential Hague investigation, NATO may do an "in-house review" of the Libya campaign to look into any civilian casualties credited to their air strikes.
  • Herman Cain is in a three-way tie with Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney for frontrunner, says a new CBS poll. But Cain is losing some support — especially among women — thanks to that pesky sex scandal.
  • A man was shot and killed outside of Occupy Oakland. Whether he was affiliated with the protests is unknown —protesters say no, but the San Francisco Chronicle suggests Mayor Jean Quan and other local politicians have found another excuse to try and remove the encampment.
  • Ron Paul is having another money bomb, this one in honor of Veterans Day. Paul's October money bomb raised $2.75 million dollars.

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  1. Paul’s October money bomb raised $2.75 million dollars.

    My October sex bomb yielded nothing.

      1. I clicked on both links and got Tom Jones singing to Flipper.

        1. I don’t see any panties-covered stage under Flipper’s feet.

          1. Dolphins don’t wear panties, duh.

            1. You’ve never been to SeaWorld After Dark.

      1. …salvation from civilization.

        1. …brought mankind peace and prosperity and progress and increased life expectancy!

          So does fiat money and deficit spending, for a while. ~Bernanke

    1. Sex Cauldron?! I thought they closed that place down!?

        1. Fist of Etiquette’s sex bomb would have gone a lot better if he’d taken a leaf out of Nigel’s book:

          Nigel Tufnel: It’s part of a trilogy, a musical trilogy I’m working on in D minor which is the saddest of all keys, I find. People weep instantly when they hear it, and I don’t know why.
          Marty DiBergi: It’s very nice.
          Nigel Tufnel: You know, just simple lines intertwining, you know, very much like – I’m really influenced by Mozart and Bach, and it’s sort of in between those, really. It’s like a Mach piece, really. It’s sort of…
          Marty DiBergi: What do you call this?
          Nigel Tufnel: Well, this piece is called “Lick My Love Pump”.

          1. We HandR commenters walk that fine line between stupid and clever.

            1. I tend to trip over it

              1. And then one day you’ll die in bizarre gardening accident

    1. Spinal Tap Fans Celebrate Nigel Tufnel Day on 11/11/11…..on-111111/

      “By the power invested in us by that big-bottomed spirit in the sky, we at West Coast Sound hereby declare this Friday, November 11, 2011, 11/11/11, to be Nigel Tufnel day.”

  2. SEIU siphons ‘dues’ from Mich. Medicaid payments

    Robert and Patricia Haynes live in Michigan with their two adult children, who have cerebral palsy. The state government provides the family with insurance through Medicaid, but also treats them as caregivers. For the SEIU, this makes them public employees and thus members of the union, which receives $30 out of the family’s monthly Medicaid subsidy. The Michigan Quality Community Care Council (MQC3) deducts union dues on behalf of SEIU.

    Michigan Department of Community Health Director Olga Dazzo explained the process in to her members of her staff. “MQC3 basically runs the program for SEIU and passes the union dues from the state to the union,” she wrote in an email obtained by the Mackinac Center. Initiated in 2006 under then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich., the plan reportedly provides the SEIU with $6 million annually in union dues deducted from those Medicaid subsidies.

    1. Koch And Native-American Reservation Oil Theft…..-oil-theft

      1. are you posting this in response to the seiu story to suggest that we should be less concerned about the SEIU story?

        1. Are you posting this in response to the KOCH OIL THEFT story to suggest that we should be less concerned about the KOCH OIL THEFT story?

          1. Take the Pledge!

          2. Did he give the Indians fire-water for oil?

            Is this like Soros stealing stuff from Jews when he worked for the Nazi’s?

          3. Is this more accurate than the “Kochs sold weapons to Iran” garbage from a couple weeks ago?

      2. don’t shit on my thread.

        1. Well, pilgrim, only after you eat the peanuts out of my shit!

          1. What you do in the bathhouse is really none of our business.

      3. Can you connect me to a ruling from any court of competent jurisdiction finding that Koch Industries stole (or, rather, “mismeasured” how much oil was extracted for royalty purposes) from any Native American tribes?

        It’s more than a little funny to me that after a century where the Department of the Interior deliberately suppressed prices paid to Indians for the mineral and grazing rights to their lands, and after a century where Interior also completely lost track of trust and royalty payments due to Indians, I’m now supposed to just regard statements from BLM as definitive even when there’s no link provided to a court finding.

        1. Ritter, Laber & Assoc., et al. v. Koch Oil, et al.
          No. 990204

          VandeWalle, Chief Justice.

          [?1] Koch Oil and Charles Meduna, Koch’s North Dakota assistant chief gauger (“Koch”), appealed from an order certifying a class action brought by a class of persons represented by Ritter Laber and Associates, Eugene Burdick and Russell Kiker (“Ritter”) under Rule 23 of the North Dakota Rules of Civil Procedure. We remand with instructions.

          [?2] The class consists of all persons and entities owning royalty interests and leasehold interests in wells from which Koch purchased or sold oil in the State of North Dakota between January 1975 through December 1988 where the oil was measured by hand gauging. The class is made up of approximately 6,000 unidentified, interest owners owning interests in approximately 2,300 wells in North Dakota. The class representatives allege Koch acquired more oil than it paid for due to inaccurate measurements. The class seeks recovery based on three claims: conversion, unjust enrichment and an accounting.

          [?3] This action was commenced in January 1996 in Stark County in the Southwest Judicial District of North Dakota. Koch removed the action to the United States District Court for the District of North Dakota. After conditionally certifying the matter as a class action, the federal court concluded it lacked jurisdiction and remanded the case to the state District Court for the Southwest Judicial District of North Dakota. The court granted
          the class’s motion for certification on May 11, 1999. The primary issue on appeal is whether or not the district court abused its discretion in certifying the class action. An order certifying a class action under North Dakota Rule of Civil Procedure 23(b) is appealable. Werlinger v. Champion Healthcare Corp., 1999 ND 173, ? 6, 598 N.W.2d 820. Traditionally, we have construed Rule 23, N.D.R.Civ.P., as being very open and receptive toward class actions. Id.

          1. That’s a rather long winded way to say “no”.

          2. I like the part where you didn’t even try to find a case involving native tribes.

          3. You have to be a billionaire to have your own Chief Gouger.

        2. Come on Fluffy, when it comes to the Koch brothers proof isn’t necessary.

          Their evil is not to be questioned.

  3. I wish it was 1991 Gingrich who was now a frontrunner.

    1. Two of the three “frontrunners” have at one time professed love for an individual mandate. Just putting that out there.

      1. And how the hell can a man with mass graves in his closet like Gingrich even think he can survive as front runner.

          1. Or that he’s such a slob? Can’t he at least box and stack them in date order?

            1. Yeah! Say what you want about Bill Clinton, but at least the man kept his closet properly organized!

      2. It’s interesting that the so-cons aren’t up in arms over Newt’s history of marital infidelity. The guy has been divorced twice, with both ending because he was having an affair.

        1. Because it would mean being haunted by the mental image of Newt having sex with three different women. Whenever I need a quick laugh I moan the phrase “Ooooh, fuck me Newt!”

          1. If some of the stories about Newt’s sexual preferences his servicers aren’t doing much screaming since their mouths are full.

            It’s not just the wives, if some reports are to be believed Newt makes Bill C look like a monk.

            1. Insert “are true” after “preferences”.

              1. just had to type ‘insert’ now didn’t you?

                1. Couldn’t resist. 🙂

        2. Newt Gingrich is the Bill Clinton of the GOP. Like the feminists with Clinton, socons are willing to forgive his perverse ways because he’s so damn smart. And he triangulates like…a triangle.

    2. I wish I was 1991 me.

  4. Re: the CBS poll

    What I like: first place is only 18%
    What I dislike: no numbers for the other candidates, e.g. Ron Paul

  5. I swear to FSM, if Gingrich is nominated, I will vote for Obama. That loathsome creature needs to be taken down with extreme predjudice!!

    1. On the other hand, voting for him gets us at least four years of President Newcular Titties jokes.

      1. And Palin had run we would have had actual titties to stare at and a renaissance in the porn industry.

        1. Hey, Michelle Bachmann’s still available, if you’re into that sort of crazy-eyed look.

          1. Which gives me an idea if she wants to be the front-runner. She needs to make an appointment with Larry or Hugh, to get past her stuffy socon image.

    2. Gingrich loves big government, just as much as Obama. What makes Gingrich even scarier than Obama, is that Gingrich is actually competent enough to get his agenda passed.

      1. I think this sums him up. He is an egotistical Teddy Roosevelt republican that is out to promote himself, others be damned. His professorial sounding speeches are really just condescending diatribes about what he thinks needs to be done, facts on the ground be damned. His personal life is run in the exact same way. Regardless of how he divorced his wives, he did it because he simply found a bigger better deal for Newt Gingrich. He’s an amoral asshole that promotes his ideas de’jure as the be all end all and then proceeds immediately on to the strategy to implement them with a militaristic strategy. He’s cold, cruel and pretty much a personal asshole. The people of SC can go fuck themselves for re-electing this guy again and again.

        “Like all politicians, Gingrich uses military terminology. (After all, words such as campaign and strategy were born on battlefields.) Unlike most other political figures, he seriously thinks about applications of military analysis. In his first successful congressional race, he told a group of College Republicans: “A number of you are old enough to have been platoon leaders, or company commanders, depending on the situation, and how rapidly you move up in rank. This is the same business. We’re just lucky, in this country, we don’t use bullets, we use ballots instead. You’re fighting a war. It is a war for power.”

  6. OK, today’s date is 11/11/11, a unique date in human history. There never has been and never can be another date of its type, at least in that part of history subject to solar and lunar calendars (Who knows, maybe the Mayans had some dates that just by happenstance were denoted by six little identical hieroglyphs in a row but who cares about a handful of savages). That once-in-existence thing fascinates me and freaks me a little. It seems to me that this promises to be – and should be – a weird day. Unusual things should happen, like schizophrenics decompensating as on a full moon night in the ER, or computer programs going sproiinnnggg…, or animals eyeballing you peculiarly, or something. Ya think? I don’t know, I’m sort of expecting it and I’m sort of thinking about going just a little weird myself.

    1. Why can’t it happen again in 3011?

      1. OK, der-erp. Hey it’s early on the Left Coast and I’m still waking up and that date just smacked me between the eyes. Besides, who cares about that 31st Century stuff; it only counts if I experience it.

        1. The date 11 October, 1111 (1000 years ago today) was even more unique (11/11/1111).

          1. Well, except for the fact that October is the 10th month.

            1. Oh, and the fact that that was 900 years and one month ago.

          2. 11… October?

          3. October, huh?

          4. Woops, guess I wasn’t awake as I thought. I always have trouble converting months to the right number anyway.

            1. I blame the metric system.

            2. It’s easy. Just look at the Latin roots.

              Sept = 7
              Oct = 8
              Nov = 9
              Dec = 10

              Then remember that we changed the start of the year from March 1 to January 1 at some point in history, so you’ve got to add 2 months.

          5. The date 11 October, 1111 (1000 years ago today) was even more unique (11/11/1111).

            Setting aside the error as to the month, 11 November, 1111 was not “1000 years ago today” — that date is before the conversion from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar, so 11 November, 1111 was 1000 years ago some day last week.

            1. You mean 900 years, I think.

        2. it only counts if I experience it

          Not to pile on, but in that case, likely every date is “unique”.

    2. What about 2111? Or even better, 1111?

      Also, I think it was a full moon this morning when I was driving to work.

      1. Imagine the party on 11/11/11111!

        And fusion will be just a decade away.

        1. Good thing – there may only be a decade worth of fossil fuels left.

    3. Chill Ice Nine, otherwise you’ll have a self-fulfilling prophecy. 11/11/11 just finished down under and it was dull, dull, dull.

    4. here never has been and never can be another date of its type

      Uh, what? November 11, 1111 is a much better candidate and looks like we missed it.

      If you cut off the century part to make today 11/11/11 then it happens every century.

    5. I think 11/11/1111 was cooler than 11/11/2011.

    6. I am an ER doc and I can guarantee you that full moons do not bring an increase in psychosis among the schizophrenia population. Many studies have shown that. However, our population of emergency mentally ill patients is directly related to when the SSI checks come out.

  7. U.S. to seek new Keystone route, delaying approval…..O920111110

    The Obama administration plans to announce on Thursday it will explore a new route for a Canada-to-Texas oil pipeline, delaying a final approval beyond the 2012 U.S. election, sources briefed on the matter said.

    1. So, you’re pissing off blue collar unions who would get jobs from this project, as well as every state that it would run through except Nebraska… all for the fucking green lobby?

      When was the last time they seriously swung an election? 2000… but that gives too much credit to pure enviros and not enough to other prog dems who abandoned Gore.

      1. What are you doing here? Get back to the computer. There are dragons to be slayed.

        1. Err… get back to the game.

      2. I was talking to a union welder the other day. He said that pipeline work, while it pays very well,is mainly young man’s work because older welders cant see well enough to meet the very close tolerances and high weld quality required. Who are the least well represented in the unions due to seniority importance? The young members. You do the math.

  8. Holt crap. Could it possibly be that the electorate will go all nostalgia retro for the Clinton years and accept Gingrich as a suitable candidate?

    1. Only if they continue to selectively forget that he’s about as loathsome as pond scum.

      1. He’s not my favorite but remind me why he is so extraordinarily loathsome. Is it the apocryphal dying wife/divorce thing? Or is it merely that he had an affair? – which would probably disqualify 75% of candidates. Or something else?

        1. Wikipedia says there is some dispute over the story. Does it matter? It’s not the deal-breaker, is it?

          1. According to Newt’s daughter, the hospital and surprise stories are bullshit and, the mother is still alive and doing well.

        2. Well if you are gonna cheat on your wife, make sure she has cancer, then go on the stump and get it on with a staffer and have her have your child. Then thanks to a friendly media have none of it reported until you are sure you will not win the nomination. Stupid Elizabeth!!!

          1. So, it’s the cancer. I see. I would have thought that cheating on your wife wouldn’t need any embellishing. So it’s knocking up someone you’re having an affair with. Truly extraordinary. So it’s passively benefiting from the actions of the press. The brute! (And when was the press ever friendly to Gingrich?)

          2. Fool. You forgot the most crucial detail. When it gets revealed, blame it on your “love for America” and how the stress of all your hard work for this Great Nation caused you to go astray.

            1. I could care less who a politician fucks, so long as it’s consensual. What I care about is how much of a statist fuck they are. And Gingrich is a very statist fuck.

  9. Heavy-handed pressure on Italy, Greece may yield little, analysts say…..l_politics

    From sending an international team to babysit Italy’s economic measures to threatening Greece with expulsion from the euro zone, French and German leaders are pushing as never before, and European Union officials have joined in. But their exhortations have provoked chest-puffing backlash from Italy and Greece, and analysts warn that heavy-handed pressure may do little to solve Europe’s short-term problems.

    1. I had to goon-hand an Italian once.

    2. When the money runs out, the money runs out.

  10. WTF is up with putting out an article about your poll, and not actually publishing the poll results?

    I hate when douchebag journos do that.

    1. Yeah, I’m quite annoyed about it. I guess they’ve decided the other candidates, like, totally don’t matter anymore.

      1. The science is settled….oh wait, wrong topic.

        1. Every science is settled. Let’s close shop.

  11. “””Worried about a potential Hague investigation, NATO may do an “in-house review” of the Libya campaign to look into any civilian casualties credited to their air strikes.””‘

    How about also looking into the fact that even though they were only suppose to “protect civilians” they did nothing to stop the rebels from using artillery and rockets to bombard civilian cities and towns. Instead they acted as the rebels airforce and even protected the rebels use of artillery and rockets.

  12. A man was shot and killed outside of Occupy Oakland.

    And so was another man inside a tent in the protest in Burlington, Vermont.

    Gee, who in the world could have ever possibly seen this sort of thing coming? {eyeballs rolling up to the ceiling}

    1. A man was shot and killed outside of Occupy Oakland.

      So…a man was shot and killed in Oakland?

      1. See there?! It’s that 11/11/11 thing I was talking about.

        1. I took a shit in Oakland. Twice!

    2. I thought Burlington was already occupied by hippies.

    3. The guy in Burlington appears to be a suicide.

  13. Romney: I Won’t Let Iran Get Nukes…..n_newsreel

    I want peace. And if I am president, I will begin by imposing a new round of far tougher economic sanctions on Iran. I will do this together with the world if we can, unilaterally if we must. I will speak out forcefully on behalf of Iranian dissidents. I will back up American diplomacy with a very real and very credible military option. I will restore the regular presence of aircraft carrier groups in the Mediterranean and the Persian Gulf region simultaneously. I will increase military assistance to Israel and coordination with all of our allies in the region. These actions will send an unequivocal signal to Iran that the United States, acting in concert with allies, will never permit Iran to obtain nuclear weapons.

    Only when the ayatollahs no longer have doubts about America’s resolve will they abandon their nuclear ambitions.

    1. Romney:

      “I will ignore the treaty obligations of the United States.”

    2. Yet another vowel country to invade.

    3. Well, it’s better than Rick Perry would be…

      “Now, I know we was supposed to attack a country starting with the letter I… but I couldn’t remember if it was Iraq or Iran. Then I thought it was Israel, but that didn’t sound right. Still, I said to myself, ‘Rick, go with your gut and don’t second guess yourself.’ Luckily, just as I was about to bomb Israel, I remembered: INDONESIA! That starts with an I! So, we’re at war with them now. Darned if I can remember why, though.”

      1. Rick would bomb Canada. They’re suspiciously quiet.

        1. Naa, he would probably forget that we had an Air Force.

          1. He served in the Air Force, so he’s more likely to forget the Navy.

            1. Yeah? He’s also worked extensively in the energy field.

          2. I would goad you into war on the hopes that you would bomb the Baldwins.

        2. I can see the liberals backing a war against Canada. It has oil, and it is part of the West. By liberal standards, that makes Canada evil.

    4. What a clown. What’s he gonna do to stop them? Blind thier scientists with his blazing white, dazzling smile?

    5. Speaking of a loathsome individual…

    6. According to this study, successful sanctions need the following conditions met:

      -a modest goal
      -economically weak and politically unstable target country
      -substantial trade relationship between sanctioner and sanctionee
      -sanctions imposed quickly and decisively yielding a 2.4% cost to GNP
      -low cost to sanctioner

      If this is accurate, US sanctions will do fuck-all to prevent Iran from getting the bomb.

  14. The Obama administration has quietly drawn up plans to provide a key Persian Gulf ally with thousands of advanced “bunker-buster” bombs and other munitions,…
    The move represents one way the Obama administration intends to keep Iran in check,

    Bunker busters vs nukes – yeah, that’ll do it.

    1. Bombs that sit in a storage bunker don’t do shit.

    2. Reagan sold fighter plans to Saudi Arabia to buy their loyalty away from Russia. When it was time to save Kuwait under Bush Sr. the USA was the one sending most of the troops in.

  15. buried in a bog for 70 years, but the guns still fire.

    1. You little flirt!

      1. And what are you going to do about it? She’s still got daddy’s money and anyway and you are likely to get sent off to some God-forsaken British colony in the midst of some disaster before you could act. Besides, she’s pretty good at covering her tracks.

    2. Cool article, but the guy goes a little Limey pride at the end. The most durable and all around best machine guns were designed by John M Browning. It is known.

      1. Well, then its a good thing they were test firing Browning .303s, isn’t it?

        1. Fucking coffee, how does it work?

      2. The Spitfire used Browning M1919’s in .303, which the article does note. That bit at the end is talking about the quality of the British manufacture during the war.

        It is a shame that they are apparently going to permanently deactivated–the article says “The machine guns will now be made safe and join the rest of the aircraft on permanent display in Derry”.

      3. Anybody else catch the sad-maker at the end?

        The machine guns will now be made safe

        IOW, functionally destroyed.

    3. Dig up Harry and I’ll bet he still fires too.

    4. Ahhhhhh, awesome.

    5. The machine guns will now be made safe


  16. Liberating Medicine’s New Frontier…..ation.html

    A recent survey of more than 200 device companies found that the FDA’s premarket clearance process for even low-risk medical devices takes ten months, on average, a good deal longer than Europe’s seven months. Tired of the cost and expense associated with FDA approval, frustrated firms are frequently pursuing other markets first, delaying Americans’ access to devices. On average, American patients wait two years longer for access to innovative medical technologies than patients in Europe do.

  17. The real holiday will be 12/12/2112.

    1. Finally we will be rid of those damn Priests of Syrinx.

      1. Little-known fact: the cult of Syrinx described in 2112 is a thinly veiled big nose joke about Geddy Lee.

        OK maybe it’s not little-known.

  18. 83 family members of the Ft. Hood Massacre file an administrative claim against the Army claiming negligence, laying the groundwork for a possible eventual lawsuit.

    Which reminds me that last Saturday was the two year anniversary of the massacre, and the victims are still being denied justice as the piece of crap Hasan still hasn’t been put on trial yet.

    I wonder if it’s partly because the government knew that lawsuits would eventually be coming, and so they’re doing everything they can to try and cover up any evidence of chain of command irresponsibility and negligence.

    1. Is Hasan considered unfit to stand trial?

      1. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has made that declaration yet. But it’s pretty clear that the government is stonewalling on this guy and there’s a ton of ass-covering going on. This is as much of a slam dunk case as it can get.

      2. Not if the same people that decided he was fit for duty are making the determination.

    2. I can’t imagine what legitimate reason they have for not trying him.

      Right after the shooting, when he was laid up with bullet wounds? Sure.

      But now? Come on, already. Justice delayed is justice denied. I mean, I can see why they aren’t real excited about putting a guy in a wheelchair in front of a firing squad where he belongs, but still . . . .

      1. There is no legitimate reason; this is pure blatant ass-covering by the military bureaucracy.

        This lunatic was basically openly telling his fellow soldiers that the evil infidels deserved to be killed. Many people knew he was a dangerous time bomb waiting to explode, but the worthless higher-ups ordered everyone to look the other way, because the disease of political correctness has infected the military just like it has everything else.

        It’s a little similar to the appalling situation at Penn State. All that’s required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

    3. It’s time to bring Hasan to trial already.

  19. Why are you people posting when there are VIDEO GAMES to be played?

    1. Baby, I always have time for Morning Links. Also, I have release day delivery from Amazon.

      1. Why wouldn’t you get it on steam, don’t you have to do steam activiation anyways?

        1. Slow internet connections are a bitch, dude.

    2. I started playing at midnight and didn’t stop until 4am.

  20. I for one welcome Lucy as our new Morning Links Overlord, and would like to remind her that as a trusted commentator, I would be invaluable in luring others into her sugar mines.

  21. Consumption breaks out in the Occupy Atlanta base

    It’s just like that Puccini opera! You know… Cats! Or the one that Cats was based on rather.

    1. Consumption? Are they sure it’s not the black lung, Pop?

    2. yikes, count me out.

      I wonder about the lice & scabies going on there as well.

    3. OWS–bringing infectious diseases to a town near you!

    4. Fuck you, how many names can a little boy use?

    5. Filthy hippies and their less sanitary camp followers spread disease. Surprised face, I’m not wearing one.

    6. It’s a bit ironic that a movement so obsessed with protecting the environment couldn’t stop the spread of bacteria that travels when people spit on the ground.

  22. Two men allegedly steal from girl scouts.

    See Girl Scouts? This is what happens when you don’t have gun-based merit badges!

    1. Do the Boy Scouts still have Riflery Merit Badge? That was easily the most funnest merit badge.

      1. Rifle and shotgun.

        They’ve got something against pistols though, which is a shame because a .22 pistol is the most fun you can have with your pants on.

        1. a .22 pistol is the most fun you can have with your pants on.

          Even if you rode to the range with Jerry Sandusky?

  23. A young man was fatally shot Thursday evening just yards from the Occupy Oakland encampment outside City Hall. And before the ambulance had even pulled away, people were debating whether the killing was somehow linked to the month-old gathering.

    HOLY SHIT! Voilence in Oakland? Occupiers need to go and let Oakland return to its sleepy, peaceful norm.

  24. Oh yes, I demand a some kind of official Skyrim acknowledgement from Reason today!

    1. Have you acquired it?

      1. Hell no. I’m not spending $60 on a game. I’m waiting for one of two things to happen: either it goes on sale, or I get it for Christmas.

        But I will play the shit out of it when I get it.

        1. Take some old games to Gamestop and trade-in; lower your acquisition cost.

          1. *ahem*

            I am a PC gamer, thank you very much.

            1. Steam might have a discount available for it. But if you’re an FPS player, don’t even bother with MW3. I mean, if the shit hosting and hacks don’t bother you go for it, but they’re already out there.

              1. I gave up on Call of Duty after MW. The rest are just money grabs.

          2. Ah. Well, maybe you can download it directly? Isn’t that becoming a favored PC distribution model?

        2. My plan too. Don’t tell the wife.

        3. I’m not spending $60 on a game.

          For dollars per hour of entertainment, there is no better deal.

          1. It’s estimated game time is 300 hours. That’s twenty cents an hour, which is practically Depression Era pricing!

          2. As I mentioned in another comment thread, I’m an avid Go player. There are quite a few Go servers out there with free clients. I don’t want to think how many hours I’ve spent playing Go against people from all over the world.

          3. The deal will get better, and I’ll be waiting when it does.

        1. And for that you get the game plus a dragon toy. I saw the (E3?) preview they did for Skyrim, and the audience had a collective orgasm when it was announced, but what possesses people to buy those things?

          1. The collector’s edition for Black Ops came with a RC camera car, which is worth the upgrade if you have a desire for an RC camera car.

            1. I liked the CE edition of the game before that – night vision goggles. Not military grade but still cool.

    2. I must resist.

      1. Time is merely an illusion. You realize that when you look up and see that six hours have passed.

        1. Is that how Einstein figured out relativity?

          1. Yes. He acquired a humming game system through a wormhole that just happened to open up at the patent office, along with some excellent games. Including Elder Scrolls VI: You’ll Die of Old Age Playing this Game.

            1. I’ve read that Daggerfall was actually the biggest one so far.

              1. Daggerfall: 487,000 sq. km.
                Morrowind: 26 sq. km.
                Oblivion: 41 sq. km.

                Sure the Daggerfall map was randomly generated, but you could carve a path of destruction across a land larger than California.

                1. Excitebike: 1 km

        2. Lunchtime doubly so.

    3. Cry a tear for those of us with older computers. I guess I’ll just have to keep playing Dungeon Crawl.

    4. What the fuck are you nerds talking about?

      1. Oh, you know, Zebulon. You know.

      2. The morality of killing sentient nonhumans for the sake of acquiring their material goods and chattels.

        1. They’d do it us if they could, man.

  25. “Am I Unlovable?”

    I’m 31 and have never had a guy say “I love you” to me. I’ve dated and been involved in mostly long-term, casual relationships throughout most of my 20s, but nothing really amounted to anything to warrant a Facebook status change. My last relationship ended almost a year ago when he dumped me for a chick who looks like me, but looks like she ate me?and makes about three times as much as I do in year. I’m educated, employed, decent looking and I don’t suffer from mental illness ? and I don’t have any cats. The guys I’ve been involved with have been pretty much my equals ? I really wasn’t dating up or down. Am I unlovable for some reason? Am I destined to be the crazy old aunt who has only my siblings’ kids to fawn over? ? Emerging Spinster

    1. Obviously, she’s never said “I love you” to any men. That’s the only time men say it… when we have out of a feeling of obligation: to avoid that particular awkward silence.

    2. long-term, casual relationships

      I think I may have identified the problem. What does that even mean?

      1. Booty call?

        1. That’s the only thing I can think of. If you can’t even get your relationship on facebook (which is a pretty low fucking hurdle) it is certainly never going to be a committed enough relationship for “I love you” to mean anything. Her problems start well before that stage.

    3. Quit fucking on the first date.

      1. I don’t see how that would be the problem.

        1. Its just the advice I have for anyone who says they are stuck in a series of casual relationships. Sexual tension, for whatever reason, seems to be the fastest way to create a non-casual relationship. Go out twice a week for 3-4 weeks, and don’t have sex, but let the other party know that it is definitely something you’re looking forward to. It will drive off the people just looking to fuck, and give you a chance to sort out the particular flavor of crazy you’ve agreed to date. Tends to cause people to spend the last week or two thinking about their new partner. I don’t know why it works, I just know that my non-casual relationships have all started that way. The other route to immediate non-casual status is pregnancy, but the consequences are pretty harsh.

          1. a chance to sort out the particular flavor of crazy you’ve agreed to date

            You just betrayed your membership in the patriarchy, right there.

          2. Otoh, I know people who had sex the night they met, and went on to a serious relationship. And people who had sex on the first date, that got married.

            1. Sure. But if you have a problem with casual relationships, try plan B.

            2. Different strokes for different folks but when you have a problem with long term but casual relationships it’s pretty good advice.

            3. I know of two cases (personally) where people had sex on the first date and got married.

              In one, Im pretty sure it was his first time ever, so he wasnt letting anyone willing to have sex with him get away.

              1. In one, Im pretty sure it was his first time ever, so he wasnt letting anyone willing to have sex with him get away.

                Yeah. Yeah. We’ve all heard Epi’s story before.

          3. Brett, you’ve basically described a shomer negiah marriage. My ex-wife couldn’t stop thinking about me the entire time we were married. Unfortunately, I was working in the biometrics lab at the time, so I was more interested in the challenge of finding a pattern to her cycle.

    4. If you have to ask, the answer is probably yes.

    5. Maybe she was dating Hand Solo.

      1. Han Solo obviously….

        1. I know.

      2. Are you gonna take my FFL bet or not?

  26. Herc has a column on a website now!

    Over and over again, too many well-intentioned sorts continue to insist that it is imperative that we inform the nice people of the middle-class (nice people who, given the nature of imperium, willingly feed off the blood of empire like the charges of a vampire) that there are well-mannered working people on site at OWS encampments ? not only spittle-launching, leftist radicals.

    Excuse me, but, for many years now, so-called “crazy” leftist radicals have been damn near the only ones who have had the clarity of mind to give a cogent critique of empire ? have been willing to point out the exploitive, soul-demeaning mode of existence inherent to the militarist/national security/corporate/consumer/ duopolistic state?and, as a result, we have been marginalized, entirely excluded from mainstream debate and discussion.

    Let us have a little rendezvous with reality; otherwise, the operatives of the status quo will frame the narrative, once again, and will claim victory by co-option.

    This is the method by which the capitalist status quo has maintained its inverted totalitarian set-up since the popular uprisings of the 1960s, by means of generous economic rewards (the perks and privileges of the corporate state) for its de facto propagandists and exclusion from the official narrative for dissenters. Don’t buy into the false narrative.

    Personally, I refuse to eschew the designation of anti-capitalist radical. You cannot shame me for knowing where the bodies of empire are buried and who laid them in their graves. To the landfill of history with capitalism ? the wasteful, cracked-brained economic system that created said landfill.

    The preening liars at Fox News and other well-rewarded propagandists of state capitalism will disseminate lies, big and small, regardless of our actions ? that is what they do. Be cautioned: Never tap dance for the approval of a lying, manipulative, power-mad fascist. Once, you begin to do so you co-sign his narrative ? thus he owns your hapless ass.

    I think the editors made him take out the brackets, sadly.

    1. It’s a shame. Phil Triathlon Rockstroh has a distinctive [Style].

    2. Way too cleaned up for Herc. Nary a mention of American-Israeli hegemony.

      1. Nary a mention of American-Israeli hegemony.

        You know why that is, don’t you?

        1. The hegemonic imperium suppressed it, duh.

  27. Why Kim Kardashian’s Divorce is good for America

    It’s a brilliant bit of cognitive dissonance, giving viewers the opportunity to recognize how hollow and manipulative reality TV’s fairy-tale narratives really are. As E! Entertainment president Suzanne Kolb told The New York Times this week: “The program model of television doesn’t exactly keep up with the life model of real people.” She was justifying her decision to keep airing Kim’s Fairytale Wedding, but she unwittingly debunked the main premise of so-called reality TV: that it has anything to do with real life or real people.

    Who knew Kim Kardashian, celebreality tabloid queen, would be the one to finally help us interrupt that bogus premise? The disconnect between blissful on-air bride and off-screen divorc?e offers viewers proof, once and for all, that reality-TV fairy tales are nothing more than a farce. Reality shows don’t focus on what it takes to build real relationships?instead, they’re all about persuading women to lower their romantic standards and their caloric intake long enough to con some douchey stranger into slapping a product-placement ring on it.

    Woah!Woah! Are you telling me that reality TV doesn’t reflect real life?

    I never knew, and without Kim Kardashian, I would have continued to live in ignorance!

    1. Fuckin’ blockquote.

    2. Kim is the latest in a long line of sexy women, famous for being famous. Nothing new about fascination with the rich and beautiful, or celebrity worship.

  28. Why the fuck does anybody care what that nasty Kardashian skank does?

    1. I wonder that to, but then realize the half the country has an IQ below 100.

    2. For us Gopher Nation fans it is straight up schadenfreude.

      After watching his ball hogging prima donna year at the U of Mn, I can’t begin to laugh hard enough at him getting tripped up by someone even more narcissistic than himself.

  29. And there’s another one; Kendra? WTF?

    I stumbled across that show one day, and watched in horrified amazement for a while. What a fat, ugly, stupid cow.

    She makes Ellie Mae Clampett look like a Jules Verne scientist/hero.

    1. I hate to really screw up your mind, but there’s another one that features another of those Hefner blonde chippies, Holly. Do not go there; at least Kendra has a personality.

      1. Right, but Holly was always the hotter one.

  30. It’s awfully quiet in here today.

    All of our video-gaming brethren must be in their basements draining their balls in anticipation of the FedEx man knocking on their door.

    1. Or got the Steam DL at midnight.

    2. Me, I’m waiting for the second patch. Let the first adopters flush out the bugs, I say.

      Until then, I’m slaughtering my way through Deus Ex.

    3. They’re chumps. I started playing at midnight (woot for Steam).

  31. Gingrich Freddie Mac connection

    According to internal reports at Freddie Mac, confirmed by the Associated Press, Freddie Mac paid three hundred thousand dollars to New Gingrich for “advice” in 2006.

    1. Was it “Bring back the McRib”?

      1. I guessing it was “shred everything with your name on it”.

  32. So, I found a Cannuck show on Netflix last night that doesn’t suck (apologies, Degrassi). Murdoch Mysteries.

    Also, Canadians say the word “Sorry” funny.

    1. I made it far enough into “Family Ties” season 2 to see a LULZY drug episode of Alex on speed, and one where he hangs out with a hot older French chick who looked a lot like Ursa from Superman II but wasn’t.

      1. There are times when I think the Canadian way of pronouncing “Sore-E” makes more sense than the American way. But then I say, “Fuck that shit. U-S-A! U-S-A!”

        1. Aside from Rush and decent beer, Canada sucks. Freeloaders.

          1. That dude is from Missouri, so don’t even try passing that off on us.

          2. Actually, both those things kinda suck. KitH is the best thing to ever come out of Canada, hands down.

            Actually I was seriously looking at going to school in Halifax. Even private colleges in Canada are cheaper than in-state schools here.

            1. KitH is the best thing to ever come out of Canada, hands down.

              Nah; I vote for Marie Dressler. For her acting skills, not her looks, of course.

          3. Aside from Rush and decent beer, Canada sucks.

            Um, poutine? I’m a little surprised we didn’t think of it first. I’m looking at you, Wisconsin.

        2. Shouldn’t that be “sore-eh”?

        3. Art, give in to the dark side. Next we need to teach you the usefulness of the toque. It’s getting cold outside, America, and that knit hat you’re wearing? Quit limping through life calling it a “beanie” or a “ski hat” or whatever other sad substitute used in your area. The word is toque, embrace it.

          1. Canada does have an impressive grasp of chapeau chic. You also have Bryan Lee O’Malley and Michael Cera, so thank you. I’m a bit of an Anglophile when it comes to music, but I guess when it comes to the indie/comedy scene I am a Canucklephile.

            Perhaps a whirlwind tour of Toronto and Vancouver is inevitable.

          2. Next we need to teach you the usefulness of the toque. It’s getting cold outside, America, and that knit hat you’re wearing?

            TOQUE is a useful Scrabble word, especially since it’s also got the variant spelling TOQUET — those hooks are always nice. Whether we should use that word to name the hat is a different story entirely.

            And didn’t you mean to say “ootside” in your screed above? 😉

  33. “I’ve dated and been involved in mostly long-term, casual relationships throughout most of my 20s, but nothing really amounted to anything to warrant a Facebook status change.”

    I think I may have identified the problem.

    1. About 5 years ago you would have been right, Brooksie. Today, Facebook is a daily part of so many people’s lives, we can’t dismiss that as goofy.

      That said, it sounds like she walked around with a mattress on her back and wondered why people didn’t love her. I know why: she’s a dumb slut.

      1. I think P Brooks meant that if she kept her FB status as “single” it communicated that she didn’t consider the relationship serious.

        1. Makes sense now. Here.

        2. I’m not sure that’s what he meant and I’m not sure it’s true, either.

          Women aren’t expected to initiate that process in our culture. In fact, that’s probably a good way to scare a guy off.

      2. I can see going through your mid-20’s without any guy saying that, but how do you make it through high school as a girl who puts out without at least SOMEBODY playing that card?

        1. she was that easy?

          1. Come on, even easy girls have the nice dork who falls in love with her because they think she’s the best they’ll ever do.

    1. A pretty dark sense of humor if you ask me.

    2. Guilty as charged! I’ve done some fucked up shit over the eons, but I tell you what. If you swear to not holding it against me, I’ll make your existence transcorporal and give you a brand new set of digs to romp around in. Pinky swear!

  34. at least Kendra has a personality.


    If that’s what passes for a “personality” these days….

    1. You may not like it. I don’t like it. But it is definitely a personality.

  35. I know why: she’s a dumb slut.

    But that doesn’t make her a bad person.

    1. No, but it decreases her “lovability” from guys that start calculating how many guys stuck their dick in her ahead of them.

  36. I think P Brooks meant that if she kept her FB status as “single” it communicated that she didn’t consider the relationship serious.

    Thanks for the charitable spin, but I was really working more on the assumption that people who define themselves by their Facebook status (whatever that is) are morons.

    1. I think you meant “morans”

    2. Yup, that’s what I thought too. Even though most people are on FB to some extent, the thing to do is just leave the relationship status part blank. Your actual friends probably know already, so it’s either attention trolling or massive insecurity.

      1. Yeah, with the number of casual acquaintances, exes, family, etc. that people tend to be Facebook friends with, unless you’re getting married just leave it off. Even then maybe. The “married-to-single” status change is always awkward.

        Changing relationship status up and down makes you look volatile for everyone who knows you.

    3. But the flip side is that changing your facebook status is such a trivial simple thing to do that never convincing anyone to do it means the “relationships” were never serious.

  37. In Minnesota, DNR officers often ask to check the cell phones of hunters for text messages – because texting your hunting buddy the location of a deer is a crime.

    1. Clear messages after texting. Make the lawdogs get a subpoena for the text logs from the cell companies.

      Bets on which Team wrote this law?

      1. Its Minnesota, so I’m going with the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party.

    2. Ask away. I keep my phone locked, and you need a court order to get me to unlock it or a warrant to try to crack it.

      And frankly, if you try to compel me with a court order to disgorge passwords my family history of early onset Alzheimer’s is gonna kick in hard and fast.

    3. I hate pages that put an ad over the page, make you click to get rid of the ad, and don’t provide a text link to click. (I think I’ve mentioned it before, but I surf reason with only cached images, so when I go to links from here, the tabs inherit the “only cached images” setting.)

    1. Fuck your Eastcoastocracy!

        1. true, EST rules the world.

  38. Is it just me or does that white hair make Joe Jackson look young but getting old before his time?

    1. he never had a lot of good looks to lose; so he looks like he is aging slowly.

  39. This just in: Bil Keane is still dead.

    1. Who did it? Not Me? Ida Know? or a suspect to be named later?

  40. D’OH!

    U.S. auto-safety regulators are scrutinizing the safety of lithium-ion batteries that power electric vehicles after a General Motors Co. (GM) Chevrolet Volt battery caught fire, people familiar with the probe said.

    The regulators have approached all automakers, including GM, Nissan Motor Co. and Ford Motor Co. (F), that sell or have plans to sell vehicles with lithium-ion batteries with questions about the batteries’ fire risk, four people familiar with the inquiry said.

    The Volt caught fire while parked at a National Highway Traffic Safety Administration testing center in Wisconsin, three weeks after a side-impact crash test, said an agency official. The official, as well as the three other people familiar with the inquiry, said they couldn’t be named because the investigation isn’t public.

    The fire was severe enough to burn vehicles parked near the Volt, the agency official said. Investigators determined the battery was the source of the fire, the official said.

    NHTSA also sent a team of investigators this week to Mooresville, North Carolina, to probe a fire in a residential garage where a Volt was charging. That investigation is continuing, the agency official said.

    1. There go the carbon emissions savings.

    2. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
      [catches breath]

  41. Newt called Ron Paul’ plan to cut federal spending by a trillion dollars his first year in office too extreme, even though spending increased by 1.1 trillion from FY2007 to FY2011. What’s extreme about going back to the pre-bailout levels and balancing the budget?

    1. 2007 to 2011 is four years

  42. 2007 to 2011 is four years.

  43. Will Obama be too old for a second career as an NFL punter?

    He’s had plenty of practice.

    Obama framed the decision as one that was based on a desire to make sure “all the potential impacts are properly understood,” and White House officials insisted the decision was made by the State Department.

    “Because this permit decision could affect the health and safety of the American people as well as the environment and because a number of concerns have been raised through a public process, we should take the time to ensure that all questions are properly addressed and all the potential impacts are properly understood,” Obama said in a statement.

    It’s merely a bizarre coincidence that this “re-examination” will push the decision past Election Day.

    1. For Obama, everything gets pushed past election day. Heck, the main parts of Obamacare don’t even kick in until after the election.

  44. Expect your Thanksgiving turkey dinner to cost 13% more this year than it did last year.

    Don’t worry though; there’s absolutely no inflation happening in America, because the government says so.

    1. Sloopy’s solution?

      Eat a delicious, nutritious ham that your brother* killed on a boar hunt this week.

      *I hope me having a brother is not terrifying to you people.

      1. Mmmmmmmm, ham.

      2. That’s pretty cool. Is he curing it himself?

        1. Nope. I’m doing it. He killed it in a hunt two days ago and had the thing butchered. Half of it (sans head and organs) is on it’s way to me as we speak.

          1. That’s awesome. I am really interested in curing/ meat preservation, but I don’t have the facilities (mainly space). I’ve made deer and beef jerky a couple of times that turned out pretty good though. I’d really like to try making bacon or some type of artisanal hams or sausages. But again, there’s that pesky space issue…

  45. One day Reason will not refer to reasons for displacing silly malcontents as reasons, not as excuses.

    A shooting occurs near a tent camp in a city plagued by violence and filled with blacks spouting revolutionary rhetoric? Who would have guessed it could happen?

    1. Aren’t you agitating fucks a bit early?

      Oh, my bad. I forgot it was a holiday weekend. Carry on, troll.

    2. It’s Thursday.

      Crap. It’s Friday. We’ll call it “theoretically Thursday”.

  46. Cnn is concerned about the Victims of Penn State.

    Tammy Lerner, director of the Foundation to Abolish Child Abuse, said her group plans to hold another vigil around 7 p.m. Saturday to promote awareness about abuse and other issues related to the recent developments — such as university transparency and protocols over the issue, legislative change and focus on those who have been abused.

    “This whole thing has not been victim-centered,” she said of the varying responses to the allegations.

    Let’s concentrate on the victims, by allowing me to leap in front of the cameras to talk about how I perceive the victims. Nothing says empathy like turning victimhood into an ongoing business enterprise.

    Also- WTF?

    Trustees also hope that Penn State fans to show sportsmanship during Saturday’s football game with Nebraska.

    1. I guess its okay for the Nebraska fans to bring their kids along now, right?

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