Sexism

"Benevolent Sexism" Finally Kills Chivalry

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Because we really did need scientific evidence of this: A new study has found that, when encouraged to look for instances of sexist behavior in their daily lives, people are more likely to dislike the men displaying that behavior.  

The research, conducted by Julia Becker of University Marburg and Janet Swim of Pennsylvania State University, is set to the old tune of raising awareness:

"We propose that women and men endorse Modern Sexist and Neosexist beliefs to some extent because they are not aware of the overall prevalence and extent of sexism in their personal lives."

Apparently not noticing sexism makes it worse.

The problem with Becker and Swim's work is its grounding in feminist theory. Behaviors can be classified as "modern sexism," "neosexism," or "benevolent sexism." The study explicitly states its intention to reduce endorsement of these and encourage "individuals 'to see the unseen.' " So, they want men and women to accept and apply certain definitions of sexism in their daily lives. That's a pretty political aim for a scientific study in a peer-reviewed journal.

This week, Alex Berezow in USA Today, reviewed the categorization of what constitutes different types of sexism according to the study:

"A man telling a woman to stay in the kitchen qualified as sexism. But a man opening a door for a woman or believing that women should be rescued first in a disaster qualified as "benevolent sexism." Tired of hearing about sexism? That's sexist, too.

As it turns out, if everything is defined as sexism, then sexism ends up being everywhere."

Among the offensive behaviors are also complimenting a woman on her cooking, her skill with children, or offering to pay for her dinner or bring her home. If chivalry isn't already dead, this new definition of sexism may just kill it.

Sexism is not something that anyone wants to be accused of, but it's a lot scarier when your accuser is not a progressive academic, but a co-worker. The law already protects women from discriminatory behavior, but more importantly, so does societal etiquette. Women do not need the special protection of the law–nor do they need a handbook telling them what they should find offensive. Intuition does a fine job of that and forcing men to tiptoe around women to avoid offense sounds, well, sexist.

Image courtesy of Pink Ponk on Flickr. 

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  1. Is saying “male societies have no art” a form of “modern sexism,” “neosexism,” or “benevolent sexism?”

    1. It’s a sign of ignorance bordering on idiocy.

    2. What’s wrong with being sexy ?

      1. No, no…not sexy: Sexist.

      2. I’m too sexy for my shirt
        too sexy for my shirt
        too sexy for my shirt
        So sexy it hurts.

  2. So do these anti-sexist people just want us to evolve into an androgynous society? I mean it would seem that developing this division labor between man and woman is what helped us survie and develop civilization.

  3. Giving a woman compliments is sexist? Oookkaaayyy…

    1. No.

      Complementing her on her *cooking* is sexist because making food is…uhm…. Because.

      You see, you have to embrace those tired old fashioned ideas of what constitutes “women’s work” or a “woman’s role” in order to determine if a compliment is sexist or not.

      And herein the problem. Not that there are people standing up for women being people just like all of us non-women or telling off the jerks, but that there is no set of conditions under which they will admit that they’ve won, already.

    2. Merely noticing that someone has a gender is sexist.

      1. Unless that gender is the opposite of their actual sex, then noticing and embracing that gender choice is not sexist, in fact it is tolerant and holy.

    3. Complimenting a woman on “womanly” skills or attributes is sexist, because it implies that she should have these skills or attributes because she is a woman.

      Therefore, complimenting a woman on her cooking ability, her beauty, or her caring attitude is reprehensible.

      Of course, any man who attempts to be respectable under this scheme will never get a date, and therefore never have children who will perpetuate their respectable characteristics. This is where it becomes clear that feminism is actually a cleverly disguised genocidal program designed by patriarchal males to rid the world of all males who might be sympathetic to women’s causes. Once these male allies of women are eliminated, the remaining men can once again dominate women as nature intended.

      If you still doubt these facts, take a closer look at the “women” who are promoting these ideas, and you will probably notice that they look rather masculine. This is because they actually are men in disguise.

      See also the Polish film Sexmission.

      1. In my view, NOT complimenting a cook on the meal, if indeed it has earned a compliment, just because that cook is a woman – THAT is sexist. Men have been chefs as long as women have been cooking. Really, cooking is just NOT an area wherein sexism abounds on a societal level.

  4. Sounds like they got some man-hating bulldykes to do the study.

  5. Julia Becker and Janet Swim need to get back in the kitchen.

    1. See below for links to their pictures.

  6. Is that Jay Leno in the background?

    1. Either Bob Crane around Hogans Heroes vintage or Bruce Campbell around the time he made “Army of Darkness”!

      Gimme some sugar baby!

    2. With a touch of Don Draper and Monty Capuletti.

    3. I don’t know, but it’s a younger Ashley Judd in the fore.

      1. Really more of a dead-eyed Ann Margaret, I think.

        1. The mother of reason hoodie girl?

          1. Possibly. Although, more than anything, the picture makes me think that they are about to use clingwrap for condoms in an afternoon bout of 60s sexin’, and they are preparing for how hungry they are gong to be afterwards by making all those sandwiches before they start.

            1. I thought she had some kinky use in mind for the clingwrap.

          2. Oh, God. One of our beloved commenters got his picture taken with her. Good work, man!

  7. ive never had a pregnant woman complain or refuse when i offer my seat on the subway.

    1. Screw that…let those pregnant ankles swell! The personal is political. You can stand bitch.

    2. the real OO is clearly a sexist.

    3. I have. It wasn’t a complaint, but she said, “It’s no biggie, I can stand for the next couple of stops.”

    4. I gave my seat to one in Korea.

      She seemed astounded that anyone would do such a thing, but also grateful.

      1. I find the same in Panama: The women are astounded, and thrilled, when I hold the door for them or offer them a seat.

        1. So a true patriarchal society wouldn’t bother to treat women with any kind of respect including giving up one’s seat. So both giving up and not giving up one’s seat is sexists.

          1. Yes. Just as both gentrification and white-flight are racist. Whitey gets the blame both coming and going.

          2. Yup.

            And what is frequently forgotten is that the United States has historically been a matriarchal society. The paucity of females in the colonies, combined with elements of matriarchal cultures brought from Africa and imbued in children by their slave nannies (in the South) produced an expectation of respect and deference to women in the United States that is unimaginable in most European countries.

            It should be clear by now that “feminism” is really a cleverly disguised plot by patriarchal males who desire to discredit female equality. Haven’t you wondered why so many feminists look like men in drag? It’s because they are.

      2. In Korea, no one thinks to give a pregnant woman their seat – but it is expected to give up your seat for anyone who looks like a senior citizen, regardless of how fit they are.

    5. ive never had a pregnant woman complain or refuse when i offer my seat on the subway.

      You pig. You sexist, neanderthal, dirty, filthy pig.

      And you NOTICED SHE WAS PREGNANT? Do you have ANY IDEA how SEXIST it is to get a woman pregnant, or notice that a woman is pregnant and be a little nicer to her?

      Fucking pig. The planet would be so much better off if we stored all the sperm we needed and shot you all into space.

  8. Next time a woman tries to exit an elevator ahead of me with a smug sense of entitlement, I will shove her aside like the sexist pig she is! Sexism cannot be tolerated!

    1. I like to slam the door when I see a woman approaching, to emphasize that she can open it herself.

    2. I suggest the way to derail the politicization of our every move is to ignore studies whose purpose and conclusions are outrageously political, and instead, practice common courtesy to one and all. It’s OK for a man to hold open a door for another man, as a matter of courtesy, or a woman for a man, or a man for a woman. If you’re courteous to everyone, you’re sexist to none. Quote me on that. If you’re courteous to everyone, you’re sexist to none.

      1. RE-EDUCATION!!1!1!one!1!

  9. This is again relevant

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com…..le2062654/

    “Everyday acts that imply that women should be cherished and protected are a form of patriarchal control, they argue”

  10. As it turns out, if everything is defined as sexism, then sexism ends up being everywhere.”

    …and racism, ageism, youngism, lookism….etc.

    1. And once something becomes an omnipresent constant, it can be ignored as a non-factor. Wait, that’s probably not what they wanted me to get out of the study, is it…

      1. Nice try sexist! You are clearly guilty~!

        1. We’re all sexists now!

  11. Among the offensive behaviors are also complimenting a woman on her cooking

    So when a wife complains that her spouse never appreciates her cooking, it means she’s asking for sexism?

    1. So when a wife complains that her spouse never appreciates her cooking, it means she’s asking for sexism?

      No, no no – if you fail to recognize her accomplishments in the kitchen that is also sexist.

    2. Oh, yeah. She’s asking for it. They are always asking for it.

    3. I think merely having a wife makes you sexist. You know marraige being nothing more than a way to keep woman downtrodden under patriarchal rule and the like.

      1. God how I hate feminists. I take solace in the fact that they aren’t breeding as fast as the rest of us; no sane man would want to marry one.

        1. But there are so many guys trying to rape them!

          1. but not, you know, rape-rape them

        2. I used to give blood regularly; one of the questions was “have you ever paid for sex?” I never did succumb to the temptation to reply, “I pay for sex every f**king day–I’m married!”

          1. I’m stealing that.

            /Recently Married

            1. Take it from me, it’s like a fucking balloon mortgage.

              1. That’s a good one too!

            2. Vaya con Dios!

      2. So married lesbians are sexist? Now I’ve got it.

    4. The funny thing is that I cook better than half the chicks I know. Cooking is a motherfucking manly activity.

      Aw shit guys, go to go. My scones are burning.

      1. baking is girly as hell, though.

        1. I actually hate baking. It’s too much about following a recipe and getting the proportions exactly right.

          Cooking is like jazz; very freelance. I can be making a pasta sauce and just go, “This needs more oregeno” *chuck in an unmeasured amount* without worrying about fucking it up completely.

          1. Agreed, baking is too much like chemistry.

            1. Math is haaaaard!

              1. So is reading, apparently.

        2. Well, I bake because I like certain treats that a) my wife won’t make because then she eats them and complains to me that she ate them and now doesn’t fit in her favorite jeans and its all my fault, and b) cookies come out better when I make them.

        3. The men in my family line always baked the Thanksgiving turkey – and carved it. There’s nothing “girly” about hefting a 25-pound carcass around and deftly slicing it up.

    5. My sweet wife made me an amazing reuben sandwich for lunch, and I told her how good it was, and thanked her for making it.

      I’m such an asshole. 🙁

      1. You monster.

  12. The feminists are really just looking for things to complain about at this point. Normal (which, one would hope, is most) women like when men are nice to us. It’s really not any more complicated than that.

    1. It’s really not any more complicated than that.

      You have just failed my course

      1. You have just failed my course

        She has been abused and brainwashed into submission by the hierarchical patriarchy. It’s not her fault.

    2. Men also like it when women are nice to them.

      1. True. Call me a cockeyed (hurr) optimist, but I really don’t see that much not-niceness coming from either gender in my everyday life. Dude holds door for me; I smile and thank him. Fuck, random dude on the street compliments my legs in a not-super-creepy way; I smile and thank him. Much to the dismay of professional griefers, most people treat each other decently most of the time. But you can’t churn much outrage out of that.

        1. “fuck random dude in the street”

          Wow, that really is nice.

          1. I was gonna say (because I missed the comma on the first read) – Dagny’s really, really nice!

            I’ll take compliments on my body or looks from people I know, but it usually creeps me out coming from strangers or colleagues (although, something like “you’re cute” or “you have beautiful eyes” isn’t usually creepy. Especially if it comes from a burly bald lumberjack.)

            1. Is it the burly or the bald or the lumberjack part ? ’cause I’ve got one of those covered.

              1. Well, lumberjack-looking: you know, flannel and work boots as the perferred wardrobe.

                Sometimes I get the feeling that men are real men everywhere but DC. I gotta get the hell outta here.

                1. “Well, lumberjack-looking: you know, flannel and work boots as the perferred wardrobe.”

                  In other words, no pants.

                2. real men

                  DC

                  hahahahahahahahaha

                3. LOL. My mother was in DC when she was a young woman, and she came to the same conclusion. She was about to head back to Arizona when she settled for my dad. Apparently it’s been that way for a while.

                  I’ve got the work boots covered, but it’s too hot for flannel here – and in cold weather I prefer nomex fleece. Also, I’m not burly but I’ve got a good old-fashioned pot belly. Will that suit you?

              2. Bald is preferred, but not 100%. Burly is a must have (I’m kinda….err…a lot amazonian).

                1. If by burly you mean slim but enthusiastic, I can crack out the boots and flannel.

                  1. If you’re really a Mainah, I might consider relaxing the rules 😉

                2. Umm, what exactly do you mean by burly?

                  1. Umm, what exactly do you mean by burly?

                    Wider shoulders than me. Barrell-chested. See, I’m the ultimate anti-feminist sexist pig gender traitor – I feel more feminine & pretty when the man is taller & broader than I am.

                    1. Hmmm. Unless you’re freakishly tall, I can probably manage “taller”. My shoulders are reasonably broad, but I don’t have the round shape associated with a barrel chest.

                      On the other hand, I’ve got a full beard and a hairy chest and back. Will that do as a substitute?

        2. “Great ass!”

        3. I’m just too damn creepy looking to compliment random women. I don’t even smile most of the time.

          On the other hand, once I get to know you, it’s all tits or gfto.

          1. Maybe you don’t smile because you’re lost in thoughts of kinky uses for clingwrap ?

      2. Those men are being exposed to the violence inherent in the system.

    3. Maybe I’m crazy (scratch that, I’m defiantly crazy), but if I’m acting in such a manner that a man would end up with a fist in his face then, well, you are well within your rights to punch me. As for complements, thous are always appreciated by people who aren’t just looking for reasons to be pissed off. So don’t complement me unless you know me (I’m a very irritable person), and FUCK YOU ANYWAY!

      1. Aw that’s adorable you little minx.

    4. If you’re courteous to all, you’re sexist to none. Make that your stock retort if someone dislikes your courtesy.

  13. “A new study has found that, when encouraged to look for instances of sexist behavior in their daily lives, people are more likely to dislike the men displaying that behavior. ”

    That sounds an awful lot like hate speech to me. Well, dislike speech, at least.

  14. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn. Did you say something, Doctors Becker and Swim?

    1. I want to see a study of this by Dr Howard, Dr Fine and Dr Howard.

      1. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk…

  15. The authors are sexist. You can see it in their choice of words.

    If women are pulled from a burning building first this is stated as an example of benevolent sexism. Benevolent to whom? The men who were left to roast in the building?

    1. The car plunged into the lake, and I could have saved her, but I didn’t want to be sexist.

      1. Oh, so that’s what happened at chappaquiddick.

      2. And that is why Ted Kennedy was always considered a champion of women’s rights.

        1. Nice.

  16. So once again, people are trying to decide for others how and what women should think about certain things. Julia Becker and Janet Swim must have no sense of irony.

    1. Yup. You got it.

    2. No, it’s ok because they’re women.

  17. Paranoid schizophrenia as a political movement:

    You are always being watched by THE MALE GAZE! Every male is your enemy because of RAPE CULTURE! Everything everyone says to you has multiple levels of meaning that only you can decode with your understanding of SEXISM! Everyone is against you all the time, striving for your downfall because of the shadowy machinations of THE PATRIARCHY! The whole system is rigged! Open your eyes! It’s all around you!!!

    1. Just because she’s paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to rape her with their dismissive attitudes.

      1. Quit making me type “lol.”

        Seriously though, that is basically the crux of the feminists’ complaint: some men might be thinking things we don’t approve of. What a scary, dangerous world indeed.

        1. I thought it was: things that make me or any other woman in any way uncomfortable must be outlawed.

      2. I’m not sure it’s ‘rape-rape’, but it’s the equivalent of rape.

        1. No, it’s only dismissive rape.

    2. Damnation, I and my shadowy organization have been found out! I’ll get you next time, Holmes/Gadget/The Phantom!

    3. RAPE CULTURE! SUGAR FREE DON’T MUTHAFUCKIN LECTURE ME ABOUT RAPE CULTURE! STEVE SMITH INVENTED RAPE CULTURE.

      1. But, Steve, we know with you it’s always benevolent rape.

    4. But is it rape-rape culture ?

    5. You are always being watched by THE MALE GAZE!

      Male Gaze?

      1. Apparently those guys are into S&N.

        1. Did you see the size of those magnets? Where do suppose they’ll stick those?

          1. You know how it is with asian….a half hour later and you want more.

        2. Seeing and Noticing?

  18. One of the daily incidents that participants in the study were supposed count and record in their diaries as “sexist” was being ignored in a conversation.

    Why is that sexist? And goddamit, someone better answer me.

    1. Obviously, the use of “diary” is sexist and aimed at making women look immature.

    2. This research is sexist.

      No female dogs were shot.

  19. Nice job on this post. Keep up the good work, little lady.

    1. +3 quintillion googelplexes

  20. If a woman has had a boob job, and I compliment her breasts, is that sexist? Should I compliment the doctor instead? What if the doctor is a woman?

    1. Thanking a female doctor implies that she wouldn’t normally be as skilled as her male counterpart. Therefore, sexist. Duh.

    2. No, you’re supposed to chastise her for buying into the patriarchy

  21. What’s wrong with being sexy ?

    1. Someone beat ya to it, Nigel.

    2. IAN: “You should have seen what they originally wanted her to smell”
      BOBBI: “Yes, but-”
      IAN: “It wasn’t a glove, I can tell you that!”

  22. Obligatory sexist joke for the thread:

    Someone stole my wife’s credit cards, but I didn’t report it.

    They guy who stole them spends less money than she does.

    *rimshot*

  23. Who would fuck either Janet Swim or Julia Becker?

    Here are their pics:

    Janet: http://www.schreyerinstitute.p…..s/swim.jpg

    Julia: http://www.uni-marburg.de/fb04…..abecker_en

    Julia looks like she might be kinky, especially if drunk.

    1. That ain’t no woman! It’s a man, man!

    2. I’m pretty sure that first one used to be a dude. That’s really more Warty’s bag.

    3. Becker’s publications include this gem:

      “Damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t? Social consequences of accepting versus rejecting benevolent sexist offers for the target and perpetrator”

      Just what defines a benevolent sexist offer?

      1. Cunnilingus?

        1. LOL!!!!!!

      2. “Target”?…sweet fancy moses.

        1. Target must have won as opposed to victim in the final edit.

    4. Julia: Born in November 1978

      Well, that’s two months older than my daughter, so yeah, I’d hit that.

    5. So is someone going to e-mail her to tell her how beautiful she is?

    6. Christ–gotta love the dark-rimmed hipster glasses on Julia, as if she couldn’t be any more of a SWPL stereotype.

    7. Who would fuck either Janet Swim or Julia Becker?

      I would hit it.

      1. Yeah but would you let that other dude who participated in writing the paper join in?

    8. Perhaps gay men would like them?

      They look like sexy men.

  24. i.e., false consciousness for the masses

  25. Wow, my wife would look at me like I lost my mind if I did not open the door for her. Classy ladies still exist kids, just keep looking.

    1. I love when dudes get the door for me, but god forbid anyone ever describe my beer drinkin-cussin-fartin-fishin-NASCAR’in ass as “classy”.

      1. You let us be the judge of that, lil lady.

      2. Some of them boys you’re NASCARin’ with have the following criteria: Smokin’ hot, and wouldn’t fuck me in a million years, but is still nice to me.

  26. Sexism is not something that anyone wants to be accused of
    Having been raised by a “feminist” in the 70s, with weekly NOW meetings held in the home and marches for the ERA, I can say I got over caring if I got called sexists sometime around the 10th grade.

    1. I got over caring if I got called sexists sometime around the 10th grade.

      Easy for you to say…you’re a girl.

    2. What ever happened to the ERA? Did they finally realize that they’d loose their legal priveleges?

  27. At my job, everyone holds the door for everyone else when coming in the main entrance. I can’t figure out which flavor of evil that makes us.

  28. During a nasty heatwave last week I wore dresses or skirts every day, not from a desire to “get in touch with my femininity” or whatever stupid goddamned buzzwords apply to my sartorial decisions, but because in sweltering heat and humidity, wearing a thin cotton or silk dress is infinitely cooler and more comfortable than wrapping your legs in thick cloth.

    I also noticed that when I go out in public wearing dresses rather than pants, men are more likely to extend little courtesies like holding the door for me. All kinds of men — not just the middle-class dudes in suits, but the old grizzled biker guys, the teenage males wearing ridiculous oversized pants that belt somewhere around their knees — none of these guys will slam a door in my face if I’m wearing pants, but in a dress they’re more likely to (for example) wait a couple seconds for me to reach the door so they can hold it open, rather than merely walk through said door without waiting for me.

    Try as I may, I cannot bring myself to feel oppressed by any of this. And I am not exaggerating when I say that in the past couple years, the ONLY sexism I have ever encountered — sexism defined here as “assholes expecting me to behave a certain way SOLELY because my naughty bit is an Innie rather than an Outie” — came from self-described feminists. No joke. I’m an occasional contributor to a left-wing British blog, and when I first shared with the readers the story of how I paid for college by working in strip clubs, and how it was a great choice for me and enabled me to rise from “poor” to “not-poor,” those feminist lovers of women’s rights were every bit as understanding as the goddamned Taliban. I’ve even had commenters seriously argue that my views on certain political issues should be discounted because I am “too pretty”; first time that happened was in a column I wrote criticizing the goddamned state anti-meth registry I had to register with to buy cold medicine that works … some dipshit member of the commentariat, probably typing one-handed, said an attractive woman with a middle-class life should not complain about such things. (I pointed out that when I wrote the column I did NOT look like my publicity photo at all: my eyes were red and running, my nose was red and swollen, and I had some truly revolting substances oozing out of various facial orifices. And I asked if such unattractiveness gave me the right (in his eyes) to complain about the loss of my civil liberties, but of course he did not respond, either because he had no good answer or so he could wash the sticky off his keyboard.

    Tl/dr: You should not trust anyone who tries forcing you to act a certain way and insists “It’s because I have such respect for you,” and today, perhaps coincidentally and perhaps not, the only time I EVER get that attitude is from self-described feminists who wish to improve the lives of women in general by punishing women in particular, when those particular women behave in ways the feminists don’t like.

    1. […]self-described feminists who wish to improve the lives of women in general by punishing women in particular, when those particular women behave in ways the feminists don’t like.

      Perfect.

    2. Isn’t this a longstanding issue? That women hate other women, and feminism is just the most recent manifestation of that? I believe women have historically been the ones to enforce certain barbaric practices such as foot binding.

      1. If it were only, or even mostly, other women who tossed such shit at me, I’d agree that’s the primary culprit. But, for example, the dingus who said I was too pretty to oppose the idea that I could be arrested for buying cold medicine was male. The ones who agree that any experience in the “sex industry,” including dancing in a bikini for money, should automatically and permanently preclude working as a teacher or anything else involving children were pretty evenly divided among men and women.

        Male misogyny still exists. Oppression of women is still the norm in much of the world. We still have a long way to go, baby. But I say the best way to get there is to focus our energy on places where women still have no choices, rather than restrict the choices women in freer societies can make.

        Feminism is like Republicanism: a good idea that brought about some wonderful and much-needed changes in this country, and it’s too goddamned bad that for pretty much my whole life, the movement has been co-opted by uptight fundamentalist assholes.

        1. I’m only jealous that I never had a body good enough to make scratch as an exotic dancer!

          1. Yeah, anyone who argues that strip clubs “exploit” women has never been to one (or maybe been to a very poorly run one with shit bouncers). When I think about the amount of money I’ve wasted in those places…

          2. Ah, but tastes vary so much!

            Send pictures for a second opinion.

        2. The main argument was won a while ago. Women and men are intellectual equals, and should have the opportunities this implies. However, this meant that for the true believers, the only thing left was to 1) deny the actual differences between men and women, and argue (for example) that there should be more female bricklayers and male nannies or 2) find (or create) anything that could be used as evidence that sexism is still widespread in society.

          The above is a good example. And since, as Sinbad has noted, “men and women are different”, they will never run out of fodder for this kind of crap.

          1. “argue (for example) that there should be more female bricklayers and male nannies”

            Ah! but bricklaying is only suitable to Neanderthal males, and males should never be allowed around children unless they’re gay. Haven’t you kept up with feminist dogma?

        3. Well, honestly, I think if you want to know who stole feminism, I’d put it at the feet of the academics. Women like Susan B. were actually out in the streets, fighting for their rights. Now, many of the women who would really go out of their way to define themselves as feminists (I know a lot of girls who took a single Fem-Gen course in college and came away going, “I’m a feminist… but not that kind”) were trained in Feminist and Gender studies courses where race theory, class theory, and a lot of Marxist bullshit got tossed around.

          I mean, take the abortion debate. If you read Jezebel, you will see that they believe abortion should be legal. Fine, I agree, the days of the back alley were horrifying. But they then go further to say that the government must provide funding to the organizations which perform abortions, because without the access to it, regardless of money, the right to an abortion is not meaningful. That’s Marx’s critique of democratic capitalism; the right of a worker to vote means very little if they don’t have economic freedom from the capitalists.

          Actually, to go to an issue less contentious than abortion, many of these same feminists will talk about how the state must fund early childcare, in order to allow women to return to work faster. But, in a country of legal abortion and birth control, having a child is a choice. If you would like to have your kid raised in their early years, marry a man who will take care of them, or make enough money to send them to daycare (furthermore, any number of places, like churches, will do this for a lower cost).

          I think that the latter example also speaks to a problem with some feminists. If Feminism is defined as giving women more choices, then you must also be responsible for those choices. Having the State sweep in and play the role that the father used to occupy is not all that better than the prior system.

      2. ^^ This. Feminism is nothing more than ugly (looks, social anxiety) females who can’t compete with superior women so they attack the exact things that make their competitors superior — better looking, social dexterity.

        1. No, feminism started because the idea that women should be denied legal rights solely for being women is bullshit. The idea that legal equality is only desired by women too homely to snag a good man is sexist bullshit, and you should know better than that.

          1. Yes, I don’t think that even modern day feminism has to do with looks (except for their weird thing with body image issues, which I guess stems from the number of teenage girls who get eating disorders). I honestly think that once women started being expected to go out into the world, they couldn’t deal with it, and then they took over feminism and made it about the state replacing the role that had once been occupied by the father, in patriarchal societies.

            In this, women aren’t to different from men. The men who couldn’t hack it in society began to look towards the state to raise them up. Although I suppose this paragraph defeats my last one, but I am large, and I have multitudes.

          2. Just to be clear, I was referring to the post-everything version of feminism, not the old school stuff that was devoted to getting women equal rights.

          3. Feminism, as a movement to grant women the same privileges society traditionally granted men while maintaining their traditional privileges, started when women believed the world outside the home was safe enough to venture into.
            When you consider the length of human history, the idea that it took until the 20th century for women to demand the same rights as men and then in less than 100 years, a historical blink of the eye, achieve this goal is silly. Obviously prior to the 20th century women were not demanding this supposed equality for some reason. The fact equality was achieved so quickly puts a lie to the myth that women were historically impotent.

        2. And where in my comment, exactly, do my words discuss the origins of the voting-feminism movement that only someone lacking reading comprehension skills would have hallucinated and saw?

      3. Isn’t this a longstanding issue? That women hate other women, and feminism is just the most recent manifestation of that? I believe women have historically been the ones to enforce certain barbaric practices such as foot binding blogging at “fisting.com”….err….feministing.com.?

        fify

    3. I am “too pretty”;

      That is weird…all the photos I have seen of you make me think “insane homeless person”.

      1. ^^THIS^^

        I kid. I am on record as appreciating her writing.

      2. Insane homeless person — I’d say no.

        However, with that butterface, one could expect a flat, wide curve-less ass, belly roll and a muffin top.

    4. I also noticed that when I go out in public wearing dresses rather than pants, men are more likely to extend little courtesies like holding the door for me.

      You must look very nice in those dresses.

    5. Also, Jennifer, the British left has had a complicated relationship with women ever since pictures of Margret Thatcher became ubiquitous in Conservative MP offices.

    6. wait a couple seconds for me to reach the door so they can hold it open

      They’re using those seconds to eye-rape you.

      1. MALE GAZED!!!

    7. During a nasty heatwave last week I wore dresses or skirts every day….

      What a coincidence. Are you a bald 330lb middle aged white guy too?

    8. Wow. I saw your blog the other day, and now this. Very impressed.

      Are you single?

    9. Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.

  29. Still, in light of my previous comment, I do agree with the idea that “benevolent sexism” exists and can be detrimental to women, but I’d view that as such “Benevolent” impulses as “Oh, let’s promote the man rather than the more-qualified woman, because the promotion requires night work and we don’t want to put the woman in danger.” That is (IMO) a benevolent impulse, NOT “Grr, I oppress women because I think they should be my servants!” but still horrid for women. Or the idea “the man should always pay for the woman’s food” isn’t bad when discussing dating etiquette, but is TERRIBLE advice for a man on how to treat women in the workplace — in business, who pays is based on things like “professional rank” or “who is the client,” not gender.

    But the damned professorial twits behind this study seem to define “benevolent sexism” as “ANY behavior indicating differences between males and females.” Which is as useless as trying to “solve” the teenage drug problem via zero tolerance policies that make no distinction between “taking an aspirin” and “shooting heroin” — both are instances of “drug use,” right?

    1. tl;dr

    2. Aren’t most professors twits?

    3. Jennifer, just curious: Which small Connecticut daily did you begin working for? I’m from the state, is all, and I’m curious.

      1. I don’t want to say because of Google, but it has the initials BP and is based in a city bordering Waterbury [gazes about furtively, milks cloak-and-dagger routine for all its worth]. By day, I have the appearance of a respectable frugal small-city Yankee, and none of my neighbors know I have a Secret Identity.

        1. Well, I can make an educated guess. Thanks.

    4. From my business experience, who pays is determined by who made the invite.

    5. But the damned professorial twits behind this study seem to define “benevolent sexism” as “ANY behavior indicating differences between males and females.” Which is as useless as trying to “solve” the teenage drug problem via zero tolerance policies that make no distinction between “taking an aspirin” and “shooting heroin” — both are instances of “drug use,” right?

      I’d go further and say that eliminating the idea of any behaviors being masculine or feminine isn’t just useless and inevitably doomed to failure, but if it were somehow possible, it would severely interfere with people’s ability to express their own gender and sexual identities, which is quite important as that’s pretty central to sexual behavior as a whole.

      You have to wonder how people who make their living working in university programs that are supposed to be studying gender and sexuality never seem to notice the role that having behaviors that are identified as masculine and feminine plays in communicating sexual interest. How can someone not notice that heterosexuals often go out of their way to express gender-normative behaviors in front members of the opposite sex that they’re attracted to? Or that mixing gender-normative behaviors is often used to communicate homosexual preferences? Sexuality requires gender roles – they’re what we use to express who we are and who we’re attracted to. Gender roles aren’t immutable and shouldn’t be constructed or emphasized in ways that place serious burdens on people, but eliminating them entirely would require silencing urges every bit as strong as self-preservation.

  30. The collapse of modern academia can’t come soon enough.

  31. This still doesn’t explain why douchebags have girlfriends.

    1. Because they ask, while other guys are too scared, usually.

      1. And the other guys are too scared because they’ve been raised to be good feminists.

        Feminism is a patriarchal plot to get rid of all the nice guys, I’m telling you!

  32. “Among the offensive behaviors are also complimenting a woman on her cooking, her skill with children, or offering to pay for her dinner or bring her home.”

    I’m very enlightened – I *never* compliment a women on her cooking. I mean, women are *supposed* to prepare good meals, aren’t they? Why compliment them for simply doing their duty? You may as well compliment them on their “skill with children,” which is also their duty.

    And why should I pay for her meals? She’s the one with the rich Daddy. Why do you think I’m dating her in the first place?

    OK, where do I go to collect my Enlightened Feminist Award?

  33. Is this report really worth a comment?

  34. But WTF is “neosexism?” Sexism practiced by lead characters in Maxtrix movies?

    1. It’s stuff that’s not sexism, but that modern feminists are now bitching about.

      1. That might be worth emailing to the authors.

    2. ut WTF is “neosexism?” Sexism practiced by lead characters in Maxtrix movies?

      Nahh…it’s when Paul Wolfowitz wants to bone you.

  35. That’s some good fucking science right there.

    1. I believe fucking is more art than science.

  36. Well, at least Jezebel is becoming a punchline.

    Those articles are always so odd to me, because I can’t figure out who their intended audience is. I tend to assume that the intended Jezebel reader is a woman in her 20s or 30s with a job, possibly a relationship, and an interest in current events plus more frivolous stuff like Midweek Madness, but I’m starting to think that while that may have been the goal back when they started, now the intended reader is a sheltered 16 year old girl who finds the world a terrifying place.

  37. Hey this is a pretty good article…for a chick. HAW HAW HAW!

    But seriously, women: you can’t live with ’em, you can’t shoot ’em. Amirite guys?

    Honestly, one of the things that I hate most at work is when I have to go to random attractive woman’s office and try to help her with something. Then she stands there with her shirt unbuttoned practically to her bellybutton. I’d love to compliment you miss, but fucking HR will have me thrown out before I know what hit me. Fucking sexual harassment.

    1. For some reason, I think that an exposed midriff is more sex than the breasts I see in a strip club. Especially if it’s through the bottom of a business shirt.

      Actually, a woman in a good suit (not a pants suit, a suit suit)…very sexy. If she has a nice pair of glasses, I am on that like white on rice.

      1. One thing more distracting than a woman exposing her breasts is a woman ALMOST exposing her breasts. If men see tits, they admire then move on. If men ALMOST see tits, they sit and stare waiting for the wardrobe malfunction so they can finally admire then move on.

        1. SO. TRUE.

  38. a suit suit

    Now yer talkin’!

    1. The best lawyer in New York… didn’t even go to law school!!!

  39. You all bitches wouldn’t need to worry about this shit if you stopped putting pussy on a pedestal.

    1. If you know a better method of propping up the price…

    2. How dare you reference a Steve Carrell movie in this august, art-appreciating crowd!?!?

  40. Seriously, look at the title of the very publication the study is in: “Psychology of Women Quarterly.” How condescending and sexist — my psyche is the way it is ‘cuz I’M A WOMAN!!

    In my home library, I store back issues of Psychology of Women Quarterly right between Thought Processes of the Negro Race Fortnightly and The Annual Protocols of Jewish Financial Acumen.

    1. Personally, I subscribe to Mathematics of the Mongoloid Peoples and The Criminological Process of the Negroid Races.

      1. I heard they were merging into The Criminal Mathematics of Halfsies.

  41. @Jennifer. Comment of the day in my books.

    1. Shit. Was that benevolent sexism on my part?

  42. Ms. Burak:
    You were tearing it up, Sparky. And then on the very last sentence…

    Intuition does a fine job of that and forcing men to tiptoe around women to avoid offense sounds, well, sexist.

    “Women’s intuition”??? Oh, you dirty dirty gender traitor!

    Oh, here’s a hint to Feminazis everywhere: I hold the door for everyone, male/female old/young white/black (well, except for those heathen chinee. They’re just so inscrutable). Because my parents insisted on good manners.

    And I don’t talk down to you because you have a Va-Jay-Jay. I talk down to you because you’re a fucking retard.

  43. Just another reason to laugh at the morons in our universities

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