Damon W. Root | December 10, 2008
This Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court will host a reenactment organized by the Supreme Court Historical Society of the 1908 case Muller v. Oregon, a landmark Progressive Era decision where the Court unanimously upheld Oregon's law limiting female laundry employees from working more than 10 hours a day. In addition to setting a key precedent later used in defense of the New Deal, the case is notable for the legal brief filed on Oregon's behalf by future Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis. Dubbed the Brandeis Brief, this document featured a dizzying parade of arguments and statistics culled from hundreds of different sources, all "proving" that women required special protection by the state.
Today, many on the left celebrate Muller and the Brandeis Brief for striking an early blow against what liberal historian Melvin Urofsky calls "the harsher aspects of industrialization." But there's another, darker side to the story, one that reveals the sexist, racist, and collectivist views held by many leading Progressives.
As Princeton University economist Tim Leonard has argued, "eugenic thought deeply influenced the Progressive Era transformation of the state's relationship to the American economy." For reformers, this translated into an obsession with ridding the labor force of "unfit" workers in order to raise both the wages and the status of the white working class. Economist John R. Commons, for instance, an adviser to Progressive politicians such as Robert M. LaFollette, Theodore Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson, described the so-called tropical races as "indolent and fickle" in his book Races and Immigrants in America (1907), where he opposed immigration on both protectionist and racist grounds. Socialist leader Eugene V. Debs put it more bluntly: "The Dago...lives more like a savage or a wild beast than the Chinese," allowing him to "underbid the American working man."
Unlike today's self-styled "progressives," who typically deny that minimum-wage and maximum-working-hour laws throw people out of work, the original Progressives welcomed that result—so long as the regulations were designed to toss the right workers out on the street. As the socialists Sidney and Beatrice Webb argued in their book Industrial Democracy (1897), "With regard to certain sections of the population...unemployment is not a mark of social disease, but actually of social health."
But the Progressives didn't want to restrict just immigrant labor; they wanted to keep women out of the workforce, too. The National Consumers League, for instance, who lobbied for numerous progressive reforms and assisted in the compilation of the Brandeis Brief, opposed publicly funded day care and health care for working mothers in order to nudge more women towards domestic life. As reformer and eugenicist Karl Pearson put it in his 1894 article "Women and Labor": "The answer...does not lie in ‘equality of opportunity,' it lies in special protection, in the socialization of the State."
The Brandeis Brief made much the same point, claiming that since women were responsible for bearing future generations, their bodies were in some sense collective property. "The overwork of future mothers," Brandeis wrote, "directly attacks the welfare of the nation." (It's also worth noting that Brandeis, who was appointed to the Supreme Court in 1916 by Woodrow Wilson, joined in Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes' notoriously eugenicist opinion in Buck v. Bell (1927), which upheld the forced sterilization of those who "sap the strength of the State.")
Writing for the majority in Muller, Justice David Brewer followed Brandeis' lead. "As healthy mothers are essential to vigorous offspring," Brewer wrote, "the physical well-being of woman becomes an object of public interest and care in order to preserve the strength and vigor of the race."
Contrast the blunt statism of that statement, which rejects the fundamental Lockean principle of self-ownership, with the sweepingly libertarian language employed by laundry owner Curt Muller, whose brief declared, "Arguments for freedom of contract and sexual liberty were natural allies; they were branches of the same tree, individualism." As the legal scholar Richard Epstein has remarked, "On this issue, it seems clear that the modern feminist has rightly cast her lot with the libertarian."
To put it another way, the Muller decision and the
Brandeis Brief, which will be honored next week by the Supreme
Court Historical Society and which are still hailed as landmark
legal triumphs by many modern liberals, were each grounded in the
worst of the Progressive Era's sexism and collectivism. There's
nothing worth celebrating about that.
Damon W. Root is an associate editor
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I've never understood why Republicans have never used the HUGE
AMOUNT OF FILTHY Progressive history as a tool aginast Liberal and
Progressive candidates???
http://www.PleaseBreakTheLaw.com
What is really annoying to this progressive is how far back you
have to reach to dig up this crap. As if businesses didn't practice
rampant discrimination back then, and still do to a lesser degree
today. Just ask Lilly Ledbetter. She was paid 40% less than her
male counterparts at a Goodyear plant in Alabama. The company
wasn't sporting enough to let her know she was being discriminated
against, and because she didn't file her complaint within 180 days
it first started (decades ago) she couldn't collect damages.
Naturally, the US Chamber of Commerce sided with Goodyear.
Progessive movements weren't totally immune from the racism and
sexism of earlier eras, but they've cleaned up their act much
better than the private sector has. To rely on ancient history like
this makes me think the term "intellectually honest libertarian" is
an oxymoron.
Lilly Ledbetter voluntarily sold her labor at the price that was
offered. It is wholly irrelavent what other people were paid.
But, if she found out that others, regardless of sex, were being
paid more, then she could demand a higher price for her labor. If
they tell her to pound sand, well, life is shitty sometimes.
The whole purpose of legislation regulating women's hours and
working conditions was to get around the fact that the courts would
not allow legislation regulating all workers' hours and working
conditions. Courts fearlessly protected the "right" of coal miners
to work 12-hour days with zero health protection. Progressives,
shockingly, wanted to improve the negotiating position of the
working class. If child labor was banned, and women's hours were
restricted, male workers would be less likely to be undercut at the
bargaining table.
If you really believe all restrictions on e.g., child labor, unsafe
working conditions, etc., etc. should be eliminated, well, fine.
But don't wonder why you can't get above 0.03% of the vote.
Simply collecting a lot of "shocking" quotations to prove that
Progressives were bad is trivial, and not scholarship. Like pre-WWI
conservatives weren't racist, sexist, etc.?
"intellectually honest libertarian" is an
oxymoron.
No, but there are some topics where being disingenuous is highly
correlated with libertarianism.
Usually comes in the form of simplistic assertions about complex
topics.
Dagny T for the thread win, btw.
described the so-called tropical races as "indolent and
fickle" in his book Races and Immigrants in America
(1907)
That's a feature, not a bug.
What is really annoying to this progressive is how far back
you have to reach to dig up this crap.
From the post that you apparently failed to comprehend.
This Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court will host a reenactment organized by the Supreme Court Historical Society of the 1908 case Muller v. Oregon, a landmark Progressive Era decision where the Court unanimously upheld Oregon's law limiting female laundry employees from working more than 10 hours a day.
Ya think the re-enactment of a statist favoring decision might have
prompted the article? Maybe?
It easy to understand how you missed the above quoted section,
buried as it was in the opening sentence.
Socialist leader Eugene V. Debs put it more bluntly: "The
Dago...lives more like a savage or a wild beast than the Chinese,"
allowing him to "underbid the American working man."
Those fucking WOPs will never be productive members of society,
being even worse than chinks. Same goes for the wetbacks.
"As healthy mothers are essential to vigorous offspring,"
Brewer wrote, "the physical well-being of woman becomes an object
of public interest and care in order to preserve the strength and
vigor of the race."
Women = brood mares. Nice. To paraphrase Dagny's joke, you got your
misogyny in my statist racism.
J sub D,
The oppressed masses don't have time for him to indulge in the
bourgeois luxury of reading.
On a sidenote... I'll be so glad when they finally invented a drug
therapy to manage liberal guilt. The rest of us shouldn't have to
suffer because they can't treat their illness.
Simply collecting a lot of "shocking" quotations to prove
that Progressives were bad is trivial, and not scholarship. Like
pre-WWI conservatives weren't racist, sexist, etc.?
I'm sure they were. But their racist and sexist behavior is not
generally praised and RE-ENACTED (WFT does that MEAN anyway?) as
being one of the pinnacles of human achievement.
I dreamed I saw Gene Debs last night,
Alive as you or me
Says I, "But Gene, you're eighty-two years dead,"
"I never died," says he
"I just blog as Lonewacko."
Women = brood mares.
The well-behaved, white women, anyways. All others get
sterilizations! Especially chinks. But especially
WOPs.
All others get sterilizations! Especially chinks. But
especially WOPs.
They could serve as surrogates for the whites! It's brilliant!
Women are never brood mares, even when rich white women pay them to bear their children.
What is really annoying to this progressive is how far back
you have to reach to dig up this crap.
Yeah, you have to go all the way back to when they were able to
enact their agenda. That's so unfair!
What is really annoying is that progressives refuse to condemn their racist, sexist, eugenicist forebears. They're always the first to condemn southern white anglo-saxons for the slavery, but are simply unable to recognize evil in their own intellectual lineage.
What is really annoying is that progressives refuse to
condemn their racist, sexist, eugenicist forebears. They're always
the first to condemn southern white anglo-saxons for the slavery,
but are simply unable to recognize evil in their own intellectual
lineage.
But they meant well.
Progessive movements weren't totally immune from the racism
and sexism of earlier eras, but they've cleaned up their act much
better than the private sector has.
The Big Evil (TM) Railroad companies were on Plessy's side.
Granted, it was from the self interest of not wanting to switch
around the car configurations during the Chicago to New Orleans
transit, but in general, the private sector hasn't given a fig
about your race, your religion, or your politics as long as your
money was green (and/or gold). Heck, this kind of pragmatic
amoralism wrt business is why everyone hated on the jews for the
better part of the millenium.
Kolohe- As a general rule, businesses don't care about race and
gender when accepting someone's money. But often they do care about
being able to get away with paying people less because of
irrelevent factors such as race and gender because social
conditions permit them to, and profit maximization is all they care
about, though they wouldn't admit to such unfairness to achieve
it.
LibertyMark- yes she accepted those wages but it was not informed
consent, which means you are aware of all relevant factors in
making a decision. Most people would certainly consider what the
company pays others for doing the exact same work as a relevant
consideration, and of course companies frown (or worse) upon those
who discuss their compensation with coworkers precisely because it
undermines their ability to discriminate.
classwarrior -
at what point do you consider it "informed consent" anyways? The
internet is wide open for people to get information on the wages
that certain jobs typically go for. She doesn't need to know the
exact hourly wage of every employee in the company to decide if
she's making "enough". She consented to those wages, and she should
have left if she didn't like them. Also I believe that an employer
can NOT fire you for asking other employees their wages. If she
asked off hours discretely they likely wouldn't know anyways. I do
it at my jobs.
profit maximization is all they care about,
You see this as a bug, I see it as a feature. Why do you think the
dodgers brought in Robinson? (which they did btw, before Rosa
Parks, before Brown v., before even the army was integrated) The
same reason they moved to LA. M-O-N-E-Y. (Incidently per wikipedia:
"By 1950 his salary was the highest amount paid to that point in
Dodgers history: $35,000" So at least one rapacious capitalist
didn't take advantage of social conditions that would have
permitted to pay him less)
I believe in the weak EMH (esp over the long term and/or enlarging
markets). That is to say, profit maximization won't long allow one
to pay substandard wages for above standard work. Sure, in the same
way that the laws of thermodynamics don't prevent localized hotter
and colder regions in a bulk fluid, emh won't prevent eddies of
social retardation. But it won't last - except through the force of
the state to back up social conditions, which is what jim crow was
all about.
classwarrior -- why are you assuming that her labor was as
valuable as her coworkers' labor to her employer? Is it possible
that she had a job at the tire factory demanding physical strength,
and that she was weaker and thus less productive than others? Or
that she was less experienced, and thus again less productive? Or
just a really shitty negotiator? If the company could replace men
with equally productive women for 40% less, don't you think as
rational profit-seeking employers in a competitive marketplace that
they'd replace ALL the men with women and dramatically reduce their
labor costs?
Do you consider it discrimination that there are NO women players
in the NFL? Or a disproportionate number of black players relative
to the general population? If the black players earned on average
40% more than the white players, would you consider that
discrimination that needed to be legally fixed?
A lot of people here don't seem to familar with details of Ledbetter case. There is no doubt she was treated unethically. (and she was doing a job that had no physical qualifications). And but for a technical loophole - that time had expired - she would have a fairly airtight legal case based on how the law is currently written; of course, whether or not the law itself is correct or proper is a completely different issue.
Christ, some of you guys would criticize Jesus Christ for being soft on sin.
I've never understood why Republicans have never used the
HUGE AMOUNT OF FILTHY Progressive history as a tool aginast Liberal
and Progressive candidates???
Maybe because the "progressives" started out in the Republican
party?
-jcr
at what point do you consider it "informed consent" anyways?
The internet is wide open for people to get information on the
wages that certain jobs typically go for.
Didn't have the internet in 1979, skeezix.
"Didn't have the internet in 1979, skeezix."
I was talking about the principle as it applies to modern
times.
Regardless that was a minor point.
In free markets, the price TELLS you how much something is
worth...you need no other information. If you are ignorant about
how much other people are paid in a similar job that's really your
own problem. Or at least it should be.
@Kolohe
Ledbetter's case was thrown out because of a technicality, yes, but
of course most of us on a libertarian site are going to protest
against laws that eliminate the right of someone to choose how much
they want to offer for a service. Also there were many other
aspects of the actual bill that would change business laws for the
worse.
I see absolutely nothing unethical about offering to pay someone a
certain amount of money for a product, and they agree. Nothing at
all.
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