Montana Pot Mogul Demonstrates How Not to Market Medical Marijuana Services
Last month a Montana judge blocked the implementation of a law that would have prevented doctors from recommending marijuana online, over the phone, and at traveling one-day clinics; discouraged Montana doctors from recommending marijuana to more than 25 patients per year; and limited marijuana sellers to being the primary care provider for only three patients at a time.
Now Montana marijuana providers are attempting to shore up their business practices in case the legislature finds another way to screw them. That is, if they don't screw themselves first. Here's a description of the clinics run by one Jason Christ, courtesy of the Missoulian:
Jason Christ, the Missoula medical marijuana entrepreneur who staged the roaming "cannabis caravans" that signed up hundreds of patients at a time, announced last week he's reviving his online "Teleclinics."
"We are seeing patients for their mmj cards by the hundreds," brags the website for CarePlus+, the new name for Christ's business that gained notoriety as the Montana Caregivers Network and, later, CannabisCare.
Christ's email announcing the service touted "visits on your computer with a Montana-licensed physician," as well as in-person visits "with our travelling doctors."
And here's one of Christ's competitors, bitching about his loosey-goosey business practices:
Another business, The Healing Center, offers clinics in Bozeman on July 25-26 and in Butte on July 27.
"Walk-ins welcome," says the website, which lists a series of one-day clinics in Montana, Arizona and Alaska. "All patients will qualify (as per state law)."
Mike Smith, executive director of The Healing Center, said about 40 to 50 people are seen at each of the clinics in a business model he plans to take nationwide. He bristled at any comparison to Christ's caravans.
"We do not do it like Jason Christ," he said. "We see every patient, one at a time, in a doctor's office."
Yes, there's a difference between recommending pot to "hundreds" of patients, versus only "40 to 50" patients. And yes, there's a difference between seeing every patient "one at a time, in a doctor's office," and seeing them (presumably one at a time) on Skype, which is where Christ's doctors do a lot of their consultations. But just how significant is that difference when what the Montana legislature wants is proof of "a bona fide legitimate patient relationship"? Are Smith's two- and one-day clinics more bona fide than Christ's two- and one-day clinics because they do not have wheels underneath them? Smith and providers like him see a big difference:
"The damn Teleclinics," Smith called them. "He's already pissing people off."
Dr. John Stowers, a plaintiff in the suit filed against the new law, dashed off a furious email in response after Christ announced CarePlus+.
"So here we go again! You stupid arrogant (expletive)," Stowers wrote. "Haven't you figured out that you created the majority of the problems in the first place. … I have no doubt the Medical Board will not be so complacent with you and your whore doctors this time around."
Speaking of whore doctors! Think of all the drugs they dole out like candied blow jobs to their troubled patients: Sleep aids, pain killers, appetite suppressants, amphetamines, growth hormones, muscle relaxers, anti-psychotics, etc. How many patients have received a prescription (or a renewal) for any of the above in less than 20 minutes from a doctor who cannot properly pronounce his or her name and/or remember it without looking at their chart? Lots of us, and I bet the number is growing.
The significant difference between a doctor who prescribes liver-destroying pain meds to cancer patients or suicide-inducing anti-depressants to teenagers, and one of Christ's doctors, is not so much bona fide as legality and, according to Stowers and Smith, tact: People who supply drugs must appear reluctant and pious; people who use drugs must appear reluctant and ashamed; and the medical pot business must embody this paradigm. Everybody has to pretend not to want it. This is the key to being a goverment-approved drug dealer in America.
Christ making it easier for people in Montana to buy his weed may be great for the sick, and for Christ, but it is at odds with the lie that binds the larger medical community.
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The name sounds familiar . . . isn't this the same guy who performed healings on the sabbath, even though the authorities disapproved?
Being a libertarian and a pain doctor, I run into this connumdrum. I believe in changing the laws, but following the current laws.
In my clinic, not all patients qualify for narcotics, I must believe that they will have a long term benefit. If not, I will recomend a different therapy.
In the ideal world, we would not have prescriptions and patients would only come and see me if they would like my expertice. However, for now, we should follow the accepted medical practices and piety is an important part of legitimate pain medicine
Well, I suppose that if you don't follow the current laws you are likely pretty well fucked.
What do you think about the current state level medical MJ laws? If you were in a state where it is allowed, would you recommend it to patients who you thought it would benefit? Just curious.
Would you recommend it even in a state where it's not allowed -- keeping in mind that it's not illegal for a doctor (or anybody else) to recommend anything?
I'd recommend it to anyone who wants it for any reason.
"Ralph, Jesus did not have wheels."
And, when the doctor said I didn't have worms any more, that was the happiest day of my life.
The real problem is...why does someone have to go to a doctor to take a harmless weed in the first place...Oh, I forgot we have to remember that the Nanny knows whats best for us. Just look at how they handle the Debt!
Only people with a profound hatred of all children and blacks and cripples and baby moles oppose the war on drugs. Fucking libert-ARYANS.
SMACK! Hey smart guy, the libertarians are not the white supremacists.
OT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBD9h0jUq3w
Kind of sounds like "flaming fag", reminding me of every liberal I know
Praise Christ
It's J. Christ no less!
Never trust a person named Christ.
when will the grown ups take charge here, and kick out the Barnum and Bailey cum RITE-AID shills? Medicine is supposed to be a private affair between u & your doctor. This is more like a circus, with the lawyers laughing the hardest. WE ARE BEING scammed, peace lovers, lets call BS, please!
So, serious question here. If I have a medical marijuana prescription and I bust my employer's piss test, can they fire me? Or is this like having a prescription for vicodin? You get a pass because it's prescribed?
Depends on the law, Montana, under sb423 yes, under Int148 it was left undefined, so yes, unless someone wanted to take it to court.
Basically, yes. In all states that have considered the issue, including California, employees can be fired fior testing positive for medical marijuana.
And for CDL holders who are subject to mandatory random drug tests, medical marijuana is not considered a legitmate medical reason for a positive test, and the employer must take the government-mandated corrective action, which includes sending you to a Substance Abuse Professional (SAP - I am not making that acronym up) to cure you from using the marijuana you are using for medical reasons.
And in NJ, the law specifically says that employers need not accommodate medical marijuana use.
Arizona specifically protects patients by requiring that the employer prove on the job impairment.
"2. An employer may not discriminate against a person registered pursuant to this proposition in hiring, terminating or imposing
employment conditions unless failing to do so would cause the employer to lose a monetary or licensing benefit under federal law. Further,
an employer may not penalize a qualifying patient registered pursuant to this proposition for a positive drug test for marijuana,
unless the patient used, possessed or was impaired by marijuana on the employment premises or during hours of employment."
Federal employees and employees in jobs regulated by the Feds won't be included. CDL driver is an excellent example. Pharmacies would be another.
y question is is where are these clinic that a re more legit then crist because i do not have vechile or means of any other transportation and i am klooking for a legit doctor to renew my card that isn't going to charge me an arm & a leg that is in the hope one the bus area in missoula, any info would be very much helpful also a list of legit caregivers would be nice to.
"The lie that binds"...
As a fellow writer, I'm jealous of this clever turn of phrase. Nugs and hugs!
This is only the beginning. Check out Obama's 2011 Drug Control Strategy, especially page 25, where they actually accuse medical marijuana providers with "clearly targeting" their advertising at young people.
http://www.whitehousedrugpolic.....s2011.pdf.
#35 Cactus
Considering that psychiatrists still hand out mind altering drugs like candy, I'm not worried about the medical marijuana dispensaries.
Jesus said to do unto others as we would have them to do unto us. None of us would want our child thrown in jail with the sexual predators over marijuana. None of us would want to see an older family member's home confiscated and sold by the police for growing a couple of marijuana plants for their aches and pains. It's time to stop putting our own family members in jail over marijuana.
The current proposal before Congress, bill HR 2306, will allow states to decide how they will regulate marijuana. Email your Congressperson and Senators at http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml and ask them to sign on as a CO-SPONSOR of HR 2306.
For more info, here's the USA Today article
http://content.usatoday.com/co.....rijuana-/1
And a big THANK YOU to the courageous, freedom-loving legislators, governors, and countless others who are working so hard to bring this through! You're doing a great patriotic service for all of America!
I'm glad Jason is doing all this non-sense. Hopefully people will realize how idiotic it is to have a skewed medical program for a plant that should be legal for all adults. Jason simply exposes the stupidity of Montana and the USA.
medical marijuana growers have been growing in their area for years?it is important they recognize all of the rules and regulations that have been changed. It's even important for their patients to understanding what their providers should be doing to abide by the rules. If caregivers, dispensaries or patients fall to abide by the laws in place, it might mean fines or other prosecution set by the state government. http://www.cleansemart.com It is recommended that all patients and employees of medical marijuana businesses consult a medical marijuana attorney before they continue to use, grow or sell marijuana after the July 1st laws are set in place. It is vital to make sure their privacy rights as well as their amendment rights are kept even with the new laws being enforced. Those who become aware of their rights are less likely to fall into the trap of being prosecuted as a criminal. If one medical marijuana dispensary is caught providing the medical marijuana without a state issued license, anyone involved could be prosecuted. With the new medical marijuana laws comes the rise in situations in which medical marijuana employees are being asked to submit an unreasonable amount of personal and financial information. However, with this increase in giving of information, the state has not necessarily increased the number of licenses handed out. Therefore, employees are giving way too much information, only to work at an unlicensed business?in which they could potentially be caught and persecuted for failing to comply with the strict medical marijuana laws.
Jason Christ refused to give the propagandist for the Missoulain, Gwen Florio, an interview - the picture in the story is from last October.
The doctor Florio quotes in the story would do well to learn from Jason and to refrain from feeding the propagandist. Florio is in bed with our local law enforcement and she pushes their agenda.