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Civil Liberties

Love in the Time of Sockpuppets

Jesse Walker | 6.14.2011 1:53 PM

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First Amina Arraf, the supposed Syrian and alleged lesbian behind the blog A Gay Girl in Damascus, turned out to be a married guy from Georgia. Now we hear that they couldn't get a real lez to edit Lez Get Real, the lesbian news site where "Amina" started her rise to stardom. The Washington Post reports:

"Paula Brooks," editor of Lez Get Real since its founding in 2008, is actually Bill Graber, 58, a retired Ohio military man and construction worker who said he had adopted his wife's identity online. Graber said she was unaware he had been using her name on his site….

Over the weekend, as journalists, bloggers and fans of Amina hunted for clues to the identity behind the blog, Brooks came under review as a possible suspect. Liz Henry, a Web producer at BlogHer.com, questioned Brooks's involvement with Amina, as Amina had started to write about the Syrian uprising on Lez Get Real before starting her own blog….

Brooks had told reporters at The Washington Post that she could only speak on the phone through her father because she was deaf. She provided a photograph of her license as proof of her identity, which showed a woman named Paula Brooks.

On Monday, we continued to question her identity. We spoke to the man who identified himself as her father, who finally admitted after numerous telephone conversations: "I am Paula Brooks." That man turned out to be Bill Graber….

He felt secure that no one would discover his true identity until the story of Amina started to unravel. He said his connection to Amina was purely coincidental and started when Amina commented on a post on the Lez Get Real site in February. It "was a major sock-puppet hoax crash into a major sock-puppet hoax."

The best part of the Post piece: "Amina often flirted with Brooks, neither of the men realizing the other was pretending to be a lesbian." Jeez. Are there any more real cowgirls in this land?

It's not news that the Internet is rife with role-playing. Take all the masquerades of real life, add anonymity, throw in some viral marketers and alternate reality games and lonelygirl15s for flavor, and you get a network that can't go a month without grabbing your shirt, slapping your face, and screaming DOUBT IS YOUR FRIEND. I like to think the long-term social effect will be a general increase in skepticism. In the short term, I feel like I tuned in to The L Word and got Mission:Impossible instead. Anyone else got a mask they'd like to peel off? Confess in the comment thread.

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Jesse Walker is books editor at Reason and the author of Rebels on the Air and The United States of Paranoia.

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  1. Fluffy   14 years ago

    Just so you guys all know, I'm actually a hippie Communist.

    1. L4Freedom   14 years ago

      Really? Then let's play a game. I'll be the state, you'll be the proletariat. I take all your money and send you to a concentration camp, you die. Sounds like fun, doesn't it? 😉

      Ayn Rand on Money: Francisco's Speech.
      http://libertarians4freedom.bl.....peech.html

      1. Fluffy   14 years ago

        What's that? I don't speak Mexican.

        1. L4Freedom   14 years ago

          Looks like they deleted my comment. COWARDS!

        2. L4Freedom   14 years ago

          Looks like they deleted my comment. COWARDS!

        3. GregorySmith2   14 years ago

          Great, they deleted my comment and once again put me as a spammer.

          I am not a spammer. I simply like expression my opinion and promoting my blog.

          Am I selling crap? No. Am I forcing people to click on the link? No. Do I have pictures of Obama naked? No. So WTF?

          1. GregorySmith2   14 years ago

            I meant "expressing" my opinion."

          2. Joshua Corning   14 years ago

            WTF?!?!

            Reason deleted a comment?!?!

            Wow that almost never happens.

            Did you accuse someone of having sex with a sheep?

            By the way if you want to advertise your blog simply fill in the blank labeled "WEBSITE:"

            Note: I have no idea if your comment was deleted because of your blog link or not.

      2. sage   14 years ago

        *coughag*

    2. John   14 years ago

      You don't think we didn't already know that?

    3. PS   14 years ago

      I can forgive the communist part...

    4. emmajane   14 years ago

      'On the internet, no one knows you're a pale straight male...'

      1. emmajane   14 years ago

        unless you tweet pix of your junk, that is.

  2. Miss Nice Gams   14 years ago

    ...And I am Sarah Palin.

  3. Paul   14 years ago

    Next thing you're gonna tell me is Feministing is run by Andrew "Dice" Clay.

    1. The Gobbler   14 years ago

      WIN

  4. Patooey   14 years ago

    I'm 6' 2", eyes of blue, body like Adonis and have a 10" schlong.

    Any other descriptions are merely jealousy.

    1. rather   14 years ago

      That's twice you mentioned the ten inches. Pic or STFU

    2. JW   14 years ago

      Yeah, but you're a chick.

  5. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

    I'm really a liberal plant, checking up on the Kochs vast and evil empire.

    1. squarooticus   14 years ago

      Come on: how many of us aren't?

      1. Brett L   14 years ago

        I'm a Koch plant shilling for whatever they pay me to shill. Although, these virtual sweatshop wages suck. Still its real money unlike the HuffPo contributors.

        1. cynical   14 years ago

          If they pay you in Bitcoin, you can always use it to buy drugs, which are real money.

    2. John   14 years ago

      Hit and Run is like the KKK only instead of being on the FBI payroll we are all informing for Soros.

  6. Captain Renault   14 years ago

    I'm shocked, shocked to find that lying is going on in here!

  7. Hugh Akston   14 years ago

    My IRL name is not Hugh Akston, but Balph Eubank.

    1. WinningTheFuture_WithSalmon   14 years ago

      There is no reality for your "real" life to be in!

    2. Daniel   14 years ago

      +1

  8. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

    Testing my memory here--that's a picture of J. Edgar Hoover, right?

    1. Fartriloquist   14 years ago

      That makes you a subversive motha'.

  9. Resto Druid FTW   14 years ago

    My question is thus: Who fucking cares?

    FYI: I am an anti-christ, I am an anarchist, don't know what I want but I know how to get it...

  10. ? and Julio   14 years ago

    The only "Amina" headline I ever saw in a newsfeed was a Paul Simon pun.

    Paul. The fuck. Simon.

    Being white isn't as conclusive evidence of being white as a Paul Simon pun is.

  11. Doctor Whom   14 years ago

    Pleased to meet all of you. I'm Paul Krugman.

    1. Anonymous Coward   14 years ago

      'Sup Paul! It's me! Ezra Klein! Isn't my face the most punchable thing EVAR?

      1. Anthony Weiner   14 years ago

        You've got NOTHING on me.

  12. Sandi   14 years ago

    I'm really Dave Weigel.

    1. sage   14 years ago

      LOLZ

  13. Paul   14 years ago

    Take all the masquerades of real life and add anonymity

    Paul Weiner does not understand this "internet anonymity" concept.

    1. Hugh Akston   14 years ago

      I assume you mean Tony Weiner, unless there's something you want to tell us.

      1. The Gobbler   14 years ago

        Maybe Tony Weiner is our Tony and all of the sexting to women was just overcompensation for his internalized homophobia. If true, my take away is this: At least he felt safe enough here at H&R to open up and be himself.

        1. SugarFree   14 years ago

          Please never say "open up" when talking about Tony ever again.

          1. JW   14 years ago

            How about gape? Is gape a better term?

            1. SugarFree   14 years ago

              No. No, it isn't.

              By the way, an asshole queef is not the same thing as a fart.

      2. Old Man With Candy   14 years ago

        He means Michael Weiner, who starts screaming every time you call him Michael Weiner.

  14. Irresponsible Hater   14 years ago

    I am Hercule.

    1. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

      No, I'm Hercules!

      1. Ska   14 years ago

        Herman Cain is Hercule.

        1. middling intellect   14 years ago

          Ross is Hercule.

          Poirot, that is.

  15. fish   14 years ago

    Allow myself to introduce myself......My name is Richie Cunningham and this is my wife Oprah.

    1. Sudden   14 years ago

      I was thinking Humpty, pronounced with an Umpty

  16. the real me   14 years ago

    I posted the first 12 comments in this thread under different identities. By my records, 32% of all Reason posts are me.

    1. Douglas Fletcher   14 years ago

      Yeah, and you're a real schmuck.

    2. Anonypussy?   14 years ago

      And me.

  17. Sudden   14 years ago

    I am Sudden's complete lack of surprise

  18. Phlogistan   14 years ago

    I dont cause combustion, or Global Warming....

    1. Oxygen   14 years ago

      you fucking sockpuppet.

  19. Ken Shultz   14 years ago

    It's all me.

  20. Paul   14 years ago

    All obvious and delicious jokes aside, this just goes to show you how fragile identity politics is.

    Here you've got a situation where someone wrote or has been writing all the 'right' things, and have even built up a serious following, only to later find out their identity is a complete fraud.

    These groups often form up with such monolithic views, that these types of shenanigans are bound to happen.

    Yet, for all their false identity, they wrote the right things.

    1. R C Dean   14 years ago

      It was all so, so, truthy.

    2. T   14 years ago

      There was a modernist poet who was an invention of two other poets who thought modernism was crap. Yet the invented poet gets more critical acclaim, even now, than the real poets. I'd give you names, but it's been so long I've forgotten.

      1. Ken Shultz   14 years ago

        Ern Malley

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ern_Malley

        1. T   14 years ago

          That's the one. I knew one of you erudite reprobates would fill in the blank for me.

        2. Red Rocks Rockin   14 years ago

          The Sokal Affair is also a good example.

    3. Anonymous Coward   14 years ago

      Collectivism is a sign of mental laziness.

      From collectivism, trolling is born.

      1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

        I may just quote that.

    4. Au H20   14 years ago

      It's like that great scene in PCU, the one with everyone arguing why they should get into the party based on historical victimization. When you give people more credence for being the bigger victim, people will pretend to be those same victims.

    5. Arianna Huffington   14 years ago

      VAT!!? Vat did you say?

  21. Otto   14 years ago

    Call me Ishmael.

  22. lunchstealer   14 years ago

    I've never actually stolen any lunches.

  23. Tim   14 years ago

    I'm just some schmuck, but you knew that already.

  24. Apple   14 years ago

    "Amina often flirted with Brooks, neither of the men realizing the other was pretending to be a lesbian."

    This will be a horrible Adam Sandler/Kevin James movie in 18 months.

    1. R C Dean   14 years ago

      Practically a remake of "You've Got Mail".

      1. rather   14 years ago

        I love that movie:-)

      2. cynical   14 years ago

        Male, you mean.

    2. Douglas Fletcher   14 years ago

      It could possibly be good.

    3. prolefeed   14 years ago

      "horrible Adam Sandler movie" is redundant.

      ok, "50 first dates was OK", but otherwise ...

    4. Sgt. Mom   14 years ago

      My bet is for the inevitable movie to be called "The Gay Deceivers."

  25. Douglas Fletcher   14 years ago

    I want to know who Andrew Sullivan actually is.

    1. Fluffy   14 years ago

      Trig

      1. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

        things are starting to make sense now.

      2. John   14 years ago

        That makes sense. The mask slips once in a while when Sullivan starts making sense.

  26. R C Dean   14 years ago

    I am joe's sockpuppet. There, I said it. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

    [sobs, throws down monocle and top hat, runs off.]

  27. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

    I am Nick's former mustache. Like Azazel, I travel from face to face corrupting all that the mouth speaks. I was created by Koch.

  28. SugarFree   14 years ago

    Unfortunately, I am who I say I am. 🙁

    1. Hugh Akston   14 years ago

      I have it on good authority that SugarFree has never even seen a vagina. Not without crying anyway.

      1. SugarFree   14 years ago

        That was just your vagina, and I cried because it looked like wadded-up pasta salad.

        1. sage   14 years ago

          Hopefully without the red sauce.

          1. SugarFree   14 years ago

            I was struck colorblind. I walked around in black and white for nearly a week.

        2. The Gobbler   14 years ago

          Speaking of vaginas, I saw the film Thumbsucker yesterday and the main character's younger brother asks, "What does a pussy feel like? I heard it's the softest thing there is."

          Anyway, it was a rather good film.

          http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318761/quotes

  29. X   14 years ago

    It's middle aged american male lesbian bloggers all the way down.

    1. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

      +1

  30. GILMORE   14 years ago

    Paula Brooks," editor of Lez Get Real since its founding in 2008, is actually Bill Graber, 58, a retired Ohio military man and construction worker

    The only thing that could really improve on this story is if He/She ended up falling in love with a lesbian posing as a retired middle-aged military dude...

    1. Lord Humungus   14 years ago

      Jeez, where ya been, Homer? The whole steel industry's gay.

    2. Not a Libertarian   14 years ago

      May we speak for a moment that the site is called Lez Get Real.

      Really?

      That is hilarious.

  31. Fartriloquist   14 years ago

    My name is really Scheissvogel, and I rarely pretend to be a lesbian.

  32. Comment Tater   14 years ago

    I must say I'm shocked.

  33. joshua corning   14 years ago

    Confess in the comment thread.

    I am really joe boyle

    1. Spartacus   14 years ago

      I'm joe boyle

      1. sarcasmic   14 years ago

        No, I'm Spartacus!

        1. Crixus   14 years ago

          Actually Spartacus is my sock puppet I invented for recruitment propaganda during the Third Servile War.

  34. T   14 years ago

    I'm actually a 23 year old Hispanic lesbian masquerading as a 41 year old white guy.

    Won't my wife be surprised when she finds out.

  35. TEAM RED/TEAM BLUE   14 years ago

    I'm really Episiarch.

  36. Spartacus   14 years ago

    I am Spartacus

  37. Spartacus   14 years ago

    I am Spartacus

  38. Spartacus   14 years ago

    Confess in the comment thread.

    I am Spartacus.

  39. kennewick man   14 years ago

    The 4 inch spear tip embedded in my hip says i am just a weird looking Indian and I am of no relation to Jean-Luc Picard.

    It also tells me that Rather has a penis.

    1. rather   14 years ago

      Hmm, I had one last night but he left with it after breakfast.

      1. Pip   14 years ago

        That's gotta hurt.

        1. cynical   14 years ago

          Time for another raid on the sewing supply store and the funeral home.

  40. Spartacus   14 years ago

    Confess in the comment thread.

    I am Spartacus.

    1. sarcasmic   14 years ago

      I too am Spartacus.

  41. John   14 years ago

    "Paula Brooks," editor of Lez Get Real since its founding in 2008, is actually Bill Graber, 58, a retired Ohio military man and construction worker who said he had adopted his wife's identity online.<?I>

    Hey isn't PBrooks former military and from the Midwest?

    1. Fluffy   14 years ago

      PBROOKSWNED

    2. cynical   14 years ago

      Does Lez Get Real have threaded comments?

  42. SugarFree   14 years ago

    We should have a general confession thread.

    1. Fluffy   14 years ago

      I confess...to CARING too MUCH.

    2. robc   14 years ago

      We should have a general confession thread.

      In 1988 I voted for a republican for president.

      1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

        I supported Bush both times and McCain.

        It still kinda shames me.

        1. robc   14 years ago

          Do you still touch hot stoves to see if it will burn THIS time?

          1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

            No.

            I don't support Republicans (other than RP and GJ types) anymore, either.

            1. robc   14 years ago

              Just wondering since it took you 3 cycles to figure it out.

              1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

                Ignorance is a powerful thing, let me tell you.

                1. Middle Age Crazy   14 years ago

                  Repeat the words "President Gore", and be not ashamed.

                  1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

                    I don't entirely understand that, but I wouldn't vote for Gore over Bush. Nor would I vote for Bush or Gore, give the chance.

                    1. Middle Age Crazy   14 years ago

                      I don't entirely understand that, but I wouldn't vote for Gore over Bush. Nor would I vote for Bush or Gore, give the chance.

                      I just meant that your support of Bush II helped keep both Gore and Kerry out of the White House. I'm pretty sure the growth of the nanny state would have been even worse under either of those two.

                      I registered Republican in 2000 specifically to vote against W in the primary, then turned around and voted for him in the general election.

                      Despite the foreign wars, I'm still not ashamed of it. Gotta play the cards you're dealt.

                    2. robc   14 years ago

                      I dont know what state DK was in, but unless it was decided by one vote and not via courts, his vote for Bush instead of, say, Browne, did nothing.

                    3. Middle Age Crazy   14 years ago

                      Leave me my illusions.

      2. Joshua Corning   14 years ago

        In 92' I voted for Clinton.

        In 96' I voted for Dole.

      3. Banjos   14 years ago

        I voted for Bush the first time, but in my defense, I was 18 at the time.

    3. SugarFree   14 years ago

      Often, after a particularly spectacular dump, I hear faint applause in the distance.

      1. sage   14 years ago

        They're just clapping because it's over.

        1. SugarFree   14 years ago

          I'll take applause where I can get it.

    4. Ska   14 years ago

      Do I devolve into Chunk from The Goonies, or Tyrion from GoT....

    5. Jim   14 years ago

      I once took a picture of a crap because it was so big, I didn't think anyone would believe me unless I had evidence. I then sent it to some poop-photo rating website, where I did not get a very high rating (sad face).

      1. SugarFree   14 years ago

        I have never photographed a turd. Unless you count my stepfather.

      2. Bono   14 years ago

        I hold the world record and you'll never beat it.

      3. sage   14 years ago

        I think I sent one to that site once. It crashed the internet.

    6. John   14 years ago

      I am really Walter Sobchak.

      1. Brett L   14 years ago

        Shut the fuck up Donnny! You're out of your element!

        1. John   14 years ago

          Mark it zero.

          1. The Walrus   14 years ago

            Nobody ever pretends to be me.

            1. The Walrus....really.   14 years ago

              I am the Walrus.

    7. cynical   14 years ago

      I nearly voted for Bush* the first time, but a series of hilarious misadventures caused me to miss voting.

      *In fairness to my younger self, I wasn't as cynical at the time, and was mainly intending to vote against Waco, Elian, Clipper Chip, Yugoslavia, Fannie Mae, etc. It was pretty much the same sort of anti-vote that led Obama to victory, but with the parties reversed. Of course, Mr. "Humble Foreign Policy" turned out to be a turd, so it's been either an L (in the case of Badnarik) or a nonvote (in the case of Barr) since.

  43. rather   14 years ago

    Bill Graber, 58, a retired Ohio military man and construction worker who said he had adopted his wife's identity online

    And I heard ex-military were having trouble finding work 😉

    1. Joshua Corning   14 years ago

      Wait...

      So his wife is a lesbian?

      1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

        Apparently...

      2. rather   14 years ago

        sounds fun.

        1. Bill Clinton   14 years ago

          Not really.

  44. A Serious Man   14 years ago

    Doesn't every man have a lesbian in him just begging to get out?

    1. Sparky   14 years ago

      I think what you meant to say is "doesn't every lesbian have a man outside of her just begging to get in?"

      1. In Time of War   14 years ago

        Not the lesbians I've known.

  45. ezra klein   14 years ago

    I actually can read and understand the US constitution...

    I just don't like what it says.

  46. Jim   14 years ago

    My real name isn't Jim. But it does start with a J. When I go on a massive crime spree, all the crimes will involve aliases using the initials "J.P.", because it will be fun to taunt the cops. All truly great criminals set themselves up for failure in this way.

  47. John   14 years ago

    IN all seriousness, if the relationship is virtual, why doesn't it matter who is actually on the other end? If the guy claimed to be a "lesbian from Syria" in one sense he kind of was.

    1. Fluffy   14 years ago

      Whoa, dude.

      You're blowing my mind.

      1. GILMORE   14 years ago

        This sorta reminds me of that exchange from Altman's Short Cuts =

        So, what were you saying
        about, um, the virt -


        - What is it? The virtual -
        - Virtual reality.


        - Yeah.
        - Okay, you know what "virtual" means?


        Uh, sort of.


        Okay, it's like really real.


        So, virtual reality...


        is practically, totally real...


        - but not.
        - Mm-hmm.

    2. Ken Shultz   14 years ago

      I think it matters to real LGBTQXYZ in Syria.

      They may be actually trying to influence public opinion to be more accepting--rather than stoning them...

      And when the Syrian people find out that it's actually an American trying to make Syrians more accepting, I think that is very likely to be used by people who are intolerant--to justify more intolerance.

  48. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

    I've got an ad for Russian Love Match after the article. Nine gets you ten that at least one of their Russian beauties is a gay Israeli internet predator or something equally ridiculous

    1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

      . Proper punctuation is always nice.

    2. Fluffy   14 years ago

      I get a Wealthy Men site ad, which means that some poor bastard is wasting his banner ad budget chasing down all the lies of Hit and Run posters.

      1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

        I think there was some course for business excecutives (or something along those lines) on here awhile back. I don't think most MBAs are on Reason.com, by any means.

        1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

          Now I'm getting filipinocupid and match.com. One gets you into the US, the other get you lies.

          1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

            Holy ****! Now I'm seeing Military Cupid? What's with all the dating sites?

            1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

              LatinAmericanCupid, ThaiLoveLinks, it's like an invasion! Maybe I'm just noticing now, but it seems like they've gone to town with online dating here.

            2. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

              ThaiLoveLinks and Latinamericancupid are now what I see. It seems like there's an invasion going on! Maybe just because I'm paying attention.

              1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

                And they keep coming! Planetlovematch is here, advertising Russian dating.

                I suspect that our references to the ads may be causing the website to show more of them. Interesting hypothesis, at any rate.

                1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

                  Okay, I'll admit I see Zoosk ads here a lot. But still, it's getting obnoxious.

                  I'm fairly certain my constant updates are also getting obnoxious, so this is the final one.

                  1. Mensan   14 years ago

                    WTF! I don't ever get dating ads. Right now I have Buick and AT&T.

                    1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

                      Darn you, lucky person!!!!1 I keep getting weird **** like meet Persian girls or 8 pictures of ugly guys.

        2. T   14 years ago

          Hey! I'm here, and as far as you know, I have an MBA.

          It's the catfish of graduate degrees, so don't be too impressed.

          1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

            PhDBA. Does that fix it?

            What I should have said was something more like people who work in upper management. I don't think we have a whole ton of those.

          2. Mensan   14 years ago

            "It's the catfish of graduate degrees, so don't be too impressed."

            I always thought that was a MSEd or and EdD.

        3. cynical   14 years ago

          We probably have a few masterful bullshit artists, but not many.

  49. Joe M   14 years ago

    The best part of the Post piece: "Amina often flirted with Brooks, neither of the men realizing the other was pretending to be a lesbian." Jeez. Are there any more real cowgirls in this land?

    I cannot stop laughing about this. It's the classic Internet cybersex problem, transplanted to the political realm.

    1. John   14 years ago

      It is just too bad Weinder never sent "her" a pic. That would be just too perfect I guess.

      1. sarcasmic   14 years ago

        How do you know he didn't?

  50. rather   14 years ago

    I am an attractive, smart, sane, size 4 woman.

    1. Fluffy   14 years ago

      Size 4?

      Hit the gym.

      1. Stuart Smalley   14 years ago

        I am an attractive, smart, sane, size 4 woman.

        What a coincidence!!

        So am I!!!

        1. R C Dean   14 years ago

          There can't be two, so at least one you is fibbing.

    2. John   14 years ago

      Well, if you are going to lie, you might as well go big.

    3. rather   14 years ago

      Fuck off spoof.

    4. rather   14 years ago

      If you're going to spoof me, at least try to be believable.

      1. rather   14 years ago

        fuck off

  51. BlueBook   14 years ago

    I am actually an orange magazine.

  52. robc   14 years ago

    I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells and I like to sniff my own butt.

    1. SugarFree   14 years ago

      "I've got you now, my rumpy doppelg?nger!"

    2. Fluffy   14 years ago

      So what you're saying is that you're Miss Nice Gams' sock puppet?

    3. John   14 years ago

      Stop pretending to be rather

    4. Episiarch   14 years ago

      "You're like the atomic bomb; everyone's laughing, having a good time then you come along and BOOM...everything's dead!"

  53. Sparky   14 years ago

    I once farted and blamed it on the dog.

  54. highnumber   14 years ago

    I am really the letter "a."

    1. Pip   14 years ago

      Nice.

  55. Ken Shultz   14 years ago

    I don't think it's surprising that people fall for this sort of thing, but I do think it's kinda amazing how quickly we've gone from chastising professional journalists for falling for it--to chastising each other for falling for it.

    This sort of reminds me of the monkeyfishing incident.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....ng_scandal

    The shock at the time was that editors and people in journalism could fall for this sort of thing...

    It wasn't that long ago that fact checking something wasn't as easy as a Google search, and we depended on what other people told us--because we had to.

    Nobody had the time to go look things up, and people who knew a lot about something and could talk about it intelligently and on the spot were respected.

    That monkeyfishing thing was less than five years ago!

    1. Brett L   14 years ago

      Monkeyfishing is fake, but squirrel fishing is real.

      1. sarcasmic   14 years ago

        Noodling is real.

        I clicked the link and was disappointed. I was hoping people were using the vile rodents as bait.

    2. Brian C   14 years ago

      Well the acutal "Monkeyfishing" story was in 2001.

      But you'd think that by the early 2000's editors would have been more skeptical of such sensational stories considering how soon it was after the Stephen Glass fiasco at TNR.

      1. Ken Shultz   14 years ago

        Point is...it wasn't that long ago.

        Don't ask me why, but I was havin' a hard time trying to explain to people how funny it was to listen to Accept's "Balls to the Wall" over the radio back in the day...

        You can't understand half the words--and there was no way to get the lyrics! ...and I got about halfway through my second comment to explain that, when somebody linked the lyrics in seconds...completely killed the effect of what I was trying to show them.

        Being able to double-check stuff has made everybody a whole hell of a lot smarter--and within a really short period of time. And it's interesting, damn it!

        We don't respect journalists like we used to--we don't hold them up as paragons of truth, justice and Edward R. Murrow anymore...

        ...but we hold each other to something like those standards. But there's no shame in being fooled once.

  56. Tim   14 years ago

    Sometimes, when the wife's out of town,I get drunk and take advantage of myself.

    1. Sparky   14 years ago

      You wait until she's out of town? I do it when she goes grocery shopping. The thrill of being caught makes it more exciting.

  57. Bernieyeball   14 years ago

    Just yesterday (Mon. Jun. 13, 2011) the literati who run OTB put their feet down and "effective immediatly" banned posters who "...repeatedly hijack the discussion thread to detract from the topic at hand..." and "trolls" (are they the same thing?).
    Apparently there are 5 or 6 of these slugs that infect the site. When you consider they have maybe 15 or 20 regular gadflys who want to share their wisdom with an audience that has to be in the hundreds I can see how this is a real problem.
    I've got to believe Messers. Taylor and Joyner et.al. know that they can not really control who posts what to their site as structured.
    Of course they could outsource that mission to me and for a monthly fee I would be glad to cleanse their threads.

  58. Clich? Bandit   14 years ago

    I am not clich?d nor a bandit.

    or am I?

  59. PantsFan   14 years ago

    Apparently Hugh Hefner's wedding was called off. And here I thought those two crazy kids would make it.

    1. Brett L   14 years ago

      And here I thought those two crazy kids would make it.

      So all your doubts were about Hef?

  60. PantsFan   14 years ago

    I actually hate pants.

    1. Ska   14 years ago

      This just really made me laugh.

  61. Chaz   14 years ago

    I'm entirely too cool to ever post a comment on Reason.

  62. Night Elf Mohawk   14 years ago

    I am actually an Undead hunter.

  63. NL_   14 years ago

    This proves once again there are no women on the Internet.

    1. Urkobold?   14 years ago

      FOOL! THE INTERNET IS MOSTLY PICTURES OR VIDEOS OF NAKED OR BARELY DRESSED WOMEN!

      1. JW   14 years ago

        It's true. It's built into the foundation of TCP/IP. Without it, it all collapses.

        1. Doktor Kapitalism   14 years ago

          I thought the internet was made of cats?

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8VTeDHjcM

          1. Anonymous Coward   14 years ago

            NOOO!!! It's made of TUBES! TUBES damn you!

  64. rather   14 years ago

    This proves once again there are no real men on the Internet.

    1. kennewick man   14 years ago

      I am a real man....

      It says so in my name.

  65. Matt XIV   14 years ago

    An once again we learn the oldest lesson of the internet:

    Any woman encountered online can be safely assumed to actually be a middle aged man.

  66. Solanum   14 years ago

    "Honey, I don't know what you are. I mean, for all I know, you could be some big, fat dude sitting in his stim chair with his dick hanging out."

  67. Au H20   14 years ago

    Honestly, my favorite thing is the jezzies flipping a shit over this, because it took "advantage" of them.

    Um, isn't your site the same one where "Woman=More valid opinion on all topics, especially sex, body image, and abortion"?

    Fucking Identity politics.

    1. Red Rocks Rockin   14 years ago

      No one chimps out like the Jezbians.

    2. cynical   14 years ago

      Honestly, my favorite thing is the jezzies flipping a shit over this,

      Dude, who gives a shit what a bunch of middle-aged white American men thinks?

      1. King Ahab Dangerfield   14 years ago

        They threw my wife to the dogs. The dogs threw her back. I don't get no respect.

  68. Banjos   14 years ago

    I am an actual banjo.

  69. No suprises   14 years ago

    I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

  70. JT LeRoy   14 years ago

    I am shocked and appalled

  71. Not a Libertarian   14 years ago

    At least we know that Matt Welch is a lesbian.

    We have photographic evidence, no?

    http://online.wsj.com/public/r.....133802.jpg

    1. Mike E   14 years ago

      Try dragging that photo into Google image search. It showed up on the cover of a book about Sentimental Heartbroken Rednecks

  72. Shocked   14 years ago

    I am Shocked. But I'm not shocked by this. So maybe I'm not really Shocked. I think I need a drink.

  73. ?   14 years ago

    I like to have long, boring and utterly pointless arguments with myself under the pseudonyms of MNG and John. Does that make me a bad person?

    1. Pusillanonymous   14 years ago

      Nope. All you have to do is just be who you are, spuss.

  74. Red Rocks Rockin   14 years ago

    The best part of the Post piece: "Amina often flirted with Brooks, neither of the men realizing the other was pretending to be a lesbian." Jeez. Are there any more real cowgirls in this land?

    Nerds, particularly adult ones, tend to be homophiles--check out the Something Awful forum threads to see this in action--because they think that gays will somehow be more accepting of them due to supposedly having the whole "I was beaten up and shoved in lockers by VAPID JOCKS UGH" experience in common.

    Nerds don't seem to realize that gays actually find them as repulsive and unlikeable as does the rest of society.

  75. Mensan   14 years ago

    All joking aside, I have occasionally posted here using different names, but it has always been either:

    A) For comic effect (e.g Ezra Klein, Barney Frank), or

    B) To present an argument that someone far more famous than I (and usually far more deceased) had previously made. Especially when an entire comment is a direct quote from, let's say, Thomas Jefferson, for example.

    Other than those two circumstances I have engaged in no sockpuppeteering, I have never used any other commenter's handle, and my name is not a false represetation.

    1. rather   14 years ago

      I don't trust anyone without an email attached to their handle, and I certainly don't trust anyone who does have an email either.

      There is no honor among republicans, democrats, libertarians, men

      1. Mensan   14 years ago

        My email address contains my real name, which I don't wish to share on here. I suppose I could set up a dummy email address, but what would be the point?

      2. Pusillanonymous   14 years ago

        Considering you've decided to put out the locations of people who visit your blog, why should anyone trust you? Self-awareness is so low and even dropping even lower.

        1. rather   14 years ago

          I don't know who visits my blog, and locations mean nothing. It shows traffic patterns. For example:
          1 Guangdong June 13, 2011 20.00% 2
          2 Hubei Apr 27, 2011 20.00% 2
          3 Tianjin June 12, 2011 20.00% 2
          4 Gansu June 9, 2011 10.00% 1
          5 Sichuan June 4, 2011 10.00% 1
          6 Beijing May 17, 2011 10.00% 1
          7 Shanghai June 2, 2011 10.00% 1

          I only play a bitch on TV, and I have never 'outed' anyone who emails me but for an unfortunate incident with _____ who tortured me for over a year. If fact, a regular would mention his comments when I did not post for months

          You'd be amazed how many people I email with, and discuss stories on Reason.

          I've only mentioned one sci-fi novelist who I correspond with, and he told me I could. He reads H&R but never comments.

          I think Joshua outed himself when I posted Washington stats. I was furious when ___ was outed, and I would never deliberately do so.

  76. juanita   14 years ago

    I think taking pot is cool...not

  77. Otter   14 years ago

    I'm surprised no one has mentioned (former?) H&R commenter Suki in this context. Was she (?) a sockpuppet?

    1. rather   14 years ago

      What happened to Suki?

      1. cynical   14 years ago

        There are dangers in time travel, rather. It's hard to say whether she ran afoul of a paradox, or simply went too far and was killed by same ancient megafauna or primordial cataclysm.

        1. rather   14 years ago

          Funny, I liked her but not the other ego. I hope she comes back 🙂

  78. Triumph   14 years ago

    I really am a cigar-smoking libertarian puppet controlled by Robert Smigel.

  79. Diggs   14 years ago

    But the real question is...did Wiener send these "lesbians" his crotch shot?

  80. John   14 years ago

    I posed as a white male to get the sympathy of the WSJ by stating I had perfect excellent SAT scores, was valedictorian, started a company, and was published, but didn't get in to Harvard while low income Whites and Blacks did.

    But I'm actually Asian.

  81. Tyrone Sllothrop   14 years ago

    I'm not Tyrone Slothrop.

  82. RebeccaH   14 years ago

    I'm really a dog.

  83. the permanent newbie   14 years ago

    I AM SPARTACUS!

    Please forgive me if someone has already made the above lame joke. I came late and haven't the time to read all 234 comments.

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled libertarian highjinks...

  84. We're all lesbians now.   14 years ago

    In these guys' defense, it is pretty clear that both do pee sitting down.

  85. glitchus   14 years ago

    I just post anonymously or with pseudonyms in the comments of political/environmental articles because I don't want to be harassed or murdered by all of the violent, radical leftists out there, especially those who work in our government. You think I'm kidding? It's happened.

  86. alzabo   14 years ago

    I'm really very sweet.

  87. stubby   14 years ago

    I'm a romance novelist who Twitters under my pen name. I follow and am followed by a couple of the Reason writers. So there.

    Years ago I started commenting on political websites under "stubby" because I didn't want my law firm employers to read my political musings/rants/whatever, even if I wasn't commenting from work. It just didn't seem like something they needed to know about, and I felt the same way once I got published - didn't figure my readers needed to know my political leanings.

    I used to enjoy poking the idiots at Gawker, but nowadays Reason's the only place where I participate in the comments and I'm rather more vocal on Twitter about my politics.

    I should probably retire the stubby persona so that I'm down to just two identities.

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