Belated GOP Debate Open Thread!

Matt Welch | 6.13.2011 8:08 PM

We need an engine called the private sector, etc. Don't be a defeatist, let's hear from you!

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Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

FIRST!
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

There's nothing Newt likes more than saying others are wrong and he's right.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Oh no she din't!
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Bachmann needs to take a step back from the mic.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Newt's pronunciation of Amurrican is several orders of magnitude infuriating than Bush's newkular
1. Anonymous Coward 15 years ago
  
  Amurican. Newcular. Titties.
  
  Fuck yeah.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

These giants among men are not going to stop at a mere thirty seconds.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Bachmann is going to deflect this question by announcing her choice for Vice President.
1. Mister DNA 15 years ago
  
  Please let it be someone named Turner!
  1. Publius Cato 15 years ago
    
    ike turner for vice president
    1. SIV 15 years ago
      
      Zombie Ike Turner would get my vote
      1. rather 15 years ago
        
        BTO
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Romney's plan: make the United States of a state of the UN so that the plan makes sense again.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

I thought he was going to say if people don't like it they can move out of the state. I would have had to respect that.
Sudden 15 years ago

Gotta love how these guys don't seem to bother addressing the actual questions they're asked.
1. Sudden 15 years ago
  
  CNN Moderator: Since you used a minute to address a question I didn't ask Mr Pawlenty, I will ask you again and give you another thirty seconds to back away.
  
  Something tells me Paul wouldn't get such consideration (fortunately he doesn't need it since he actually answers questions he's asked).
  1. Anonymous Coward 15 years ago
    
    A US Presidential debate is the LAST place you'll ever get a straight answer. The only comparable Hell of sidestepping and doubletalk is AT&T customer service.
    1. Matt 15 years ago
      
      Brilliant!
shrike 15 years ago

Pawlenty is such a shallow cunt.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Just turn to Mitt and punch him in the face, Pawlenty.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Pawlenty: Listen, John, if you want me to admit that I'm spineless, well, I'm afraid to.
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN is focusing on slapping a guy around about calling it "O-Romeny-Care?" Not the actual health care policy?
1. Sudden 15 years ago
  
  Horse race and vitriol sells airtime ad space; actual policies don't.
  1. Jim 15 years ago
    
    Market failure!
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Tim Pawlenty is Brick Tamland. I've never been more sure of anything.
1. Trespassers W 15 years ago
  
  I love lamp! I love lamp.
Publius Cato 15 years ago

OH GOG! This is terrible.
Patrick 15 years ago

Shorter Mittens: "I am too high and mighty for this riff raff, let me speak directly to Obama."
Not Sure 15 years ago

Whenever I see Romeny now, I keep hearing the "Book of Mormon" song "Turn It Off."
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Gingrich is pointing at me like I have diamond necklaces to sell.
Amakudari 15 years ago

Time. Time. Time. Time. Time. Time. Time.
Matt Welch 15 years ago

"I'm not a libertarian Republican...I'm a mainstream Republican"!
1. Patrick 15 years ago
  
  "I don't want to see a candidate being pulled towards any extreme, particularly away from party gatekeeprs like myself."
2. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  Which was prefacing a query to Santorum as to whether he'd be too libertarian.
SIV 15 years ago

We need a squish!
1. squishua 15 years ago
  
  You got one!
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

A question for Ron Paul, how many Austrian buzzwords can you fit into 30 seconds? And if you could, please stutter.
Barely Suppressed Rage 15 years ago

Rick Santorum makes me throw up in the back of my mouth a little.
Barely Suppressed Rage 15 years ago

Who names their baby "Newt"?
1. Decentralize Everything!!! 15 years ago
  
  Newton...
2. Cyto 15 years ago
  
  Newton. Like the fig cookies. Middle name Leroy. Like the Last Dragon.
  
  He's off to fight Sho-Nuf with his figgie cookie.
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Yeah, I'm concerned that Santorum might be too libertarian too. Good question.
Not Sure 15 years ago

Why is this debate on the "honor system?" Candidates should be zapped if they go over time.
1. SIV 15 years ago
  
  "Invisible buzzer"
2. Doktor Kapitalism 15 years ago
  
  I like it!
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Hey! We're a notch below people who never cared about politics a day in their lives! Look out, world!
Koan 15 years ago

Pawlenty is coming off rather poorly. He looks and acts like a weasel. Why do so many people think this guy has a shot? Santorum is a Christ-prick, as usual. Ron Paul "That's a tough question" FTW, so far.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  Ha ha!!
  
  You have no idea how much I agree.
Barely Suppressed Rage 15 years ago

Santorum looks like the kind of guy who throws a hissy fit if his underwear isn't properly folded and neatly stacked in the drawer.
shrike 15 years ago

Cain off the rotation for now.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Michelle Bachmann doesnt realize that Michelle Bachmann announces everything she says.
Barely Suppressed Rage 15 years ago

How much time are they given to answer?
1. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  However long they ignore the moderator.
Gary 15 years ago

Who is Herman Cain? Why is he there and not Gary Johnson?
1. SIV 15 years ago
  
  Cain is running a serious campaign.
  1. ? 15 years ago
    
    He calls it a cam-Cain.*
    
    *Not really.
    1. Pope Jimbo 15 years ago
      
      Given the fact that I'm sure the Kochtopus is behind his campaign shouldn't he call it:
      
      KochCaine?!!!
2. Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago
  
  He's there to fill the jarring-accent void that Palin left.
3. SIV 15 years ago
  
  Cain is running a serious campaign.
  1. Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago
    
    No, he's not. A 23% tax on a dollar brings the total to $1.23, and anyone that says otherwise is either lying, or is an idiot.
    1. SIV 15 years ago
      
      non sequitur
      
      Cain is running a serious campaign (unlike Johnson) I didn't say he is right on the issues. Besides, the President can't impose a consumption tax and it will never pass Congress.
      1. Thorbie 15 years ago
        
        Cain is so serious that every policy position he's taken amounts to "I'll ask my advisors about that."
    2. johnl 15 years ago
      
      So if you earn a dollar and take home 80 cents, that's a 25% income tax rate? Please changing denominators is not lying so long as you are clear about it.
  2. MysteryFish 15 years ago
    
    Cereal. Super cereal.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Michelle Bachmann doesn't realize that everything she says is announced.
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS! Finally.
Not Sure 15 years ago

Oh jeez, Ron Paul is trying to explain economics in 30 seconds...
1. hazeeran 15 years ago
  
  Mitt looked completely puzzled.
  1. sevo 15 years ago
    
    What do you mean "looked"?
2. JoshInHB 15 years ago
  
  He needs to learn the art of the sound bite.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Tea Party debate on CNN? Susan Roesgen can moderate.
Sudden 15 years ago

You know we're fucked when the rank and file GOP asking questions at the GOP debate is the Director of Transportation for a fucking college.

Kill me now.
Ventifact 15 years ago

Reserve currency! Paul for Fed Chairman 2012!

...Wait, what are these debaters candidates for?
1. Ventifact 15 years ago
  
  Silly rabbit, policy specifics are for ... joke candidates. Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
2. Ventifact 15 years ago
  
  Silly rabbit, policy specifics are for joke candidates. Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

There is no chance Tim Pawlenty understood a word of what Ron Paul just said
1. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  "I grew up in a meat-packing town."
  
  Good God.
  1. ? 15 years ago
    
    Better than a fudge-packing town.
  2. T-Paw 15 years ago
    
    I was in a union. I grew up in the union. I grew up in a union town. And I was in the union. I understand this stuff.
    
    Also, meatpacker.
    1. UAT-Paw 15 years ago
      
      I am a union!
  3. Joe M 15 years ago
    
    Drink!
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Ron Paul: If he won't spend on a tailored suit, he won't spend on entitlements!
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Pawlenty: Anti stupid chumps
Gary 15 years ago

What Paul should have said:

"Those jobs are not coming back because they went away almost exclusively as a result of changes in technology. So stop blaming foreigners for the 'loss' of those jobs."
1. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  Not to mention that we'll never be competitive with the enormous number of countries with cheap labor providing cheap goods Americans like. Our biggest competitive advantage is in services, period.
  1. JoshInHB 15 years ago
    
    Yeah,
    
    Them igrunt furreners ain't as smart as us.
  2. Gary 15 years ago
    
    There is always a harkening for a better past; I'm sure in the 1920s people were wishing they were still on the farm - even though farm production was through the roof with fewer people farming. Productivity leading to less and less scarcity is the key.
  3. . 15 years ago
    
    Not to mention that we'll never be competitive with the enormous number of countries with cheap labor providing cheap goods Americans like.
    
    How "cheap" do you suppose that labor and those goods would be, if we were to stop expanding the supply of money and credit by creating dollars out of thin air?
Sudden 15 years ago

T-Paw is trying to be the next John Edwards. When asked a question he answers by talking about growing up the son of a mill worker meat packer.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  Meat Worker vote pandering?
  
  If he is pro-whore I might like him.
Koan 15 years ago

Oh Ron Paul . . . he just can't talk to average Joe's and Jane's without talking over their heads. He's technically correct in his estimations, but he just cannot project those precious nuggets of truth in digestible form.
1. Ventifact 15 years ago
  
  Silly rabbit, policy specifics are for joke candidates. Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
2. Ventifact 15 years ago
  
  Silly wabbit, policy specifics are for joke candidates. Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
3. Ventifact 15 years ago
  
  Policy specifics are for joke candidates. Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
4. CE 15 years ago
  
  People are smarter than you think.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Bachmann just lost the non-traditional student vote.
hazeeran 15 years ago

Santorum: manufacturing was how we "got down"?? WTF did he just say?
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

TRICKLE DOWN! He said it.
shrike 15 years ago

SIV - Cain is FOR local/state handgun bans and FOR a religious test for federal jobs.

Write him off now.
1. Herman Cain 15 years ago
  
  I was for TARP. I'm a serious businessman and a serious conservative.
  1. CE 15 years ago
    
    But not after they decided not to give 100 percent of the TARP funds to banksters.
2. johnl 15 years ago
  
  Everyone is for religious tests except ACLU members and Reason readers.
3. Wind Rider 15 years ago
  
  We already tried the affirmative action route. Even if he makes noises that some SoCons will ejaculate over.
Koan 15 years ago

Thus far, I am not repelled by Bachmann. This is a surprise . . .
1. SIV 15 years ago
  
  3rd most libertarian candidate in the race (unless Palin jumps in).
  1. Pedant 15 years ago
    
    That's like saying she's the 3rd blackest candidate.
2. Anonymous Biotch 15 years ago
  
  What Michelle Bachman desperately needs is a vibrator and a life.
PantsFan 15 years ago

There's also a hockey game on.
1. Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago
  
  Picture-in-Picture was invented for this.
  1. Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago
    
    And (spoiler alert) Boston just scored.
    1. Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago
      
      Thrice.
2. Namon 15 years ago
  
  was over early. they will have to break the brewwwwwwwwns hearts in game 7
Ventifact 15 years ago

Silly rabbit, policy specifics are for joke candidates. Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Rush gets a shout-out.
Draco 15 years ago

You asswipes can ridicule all you want, but thus far I haven't heard any of these candidates take a position that isn't infinitely more pro-capitalism and pro-freedom than Obama's positions.

I'm actually very surprised by the excellence of Newt's answers thus far.
1. Draco 15 years ago
  
  And Newt just cited the 10th amendment. Holy crap!
  1. MysteryFish 15 years ago
    
    Did you just call everyone else an "asswipe" and then go Pro-Newt?
2. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  I'm not as generous, but I don't have any problems with Newt's answer on the Boeing issue.
  
  Pawlenty and Santorum still make me cringe, though.
  1. Anonymous Biotch 15 years ago
    
    Pawlenty is a shape-shifting Rorschach. Only dumber and less charismatic.
3. Cytotoxic 15 years ago
  
  A Keynesian should never talk about being pro-capitalism.
4. John C. Randolph 15 years ago
  
  I haven't heard any of these candidates take a position that isn't infinitely more pro-capitalism and pro-freedom than Obama's positions.
  
  It's not at all hard to find a Republican who will say those things. Ron Paul's the one who actually votes that way.
  
  -jcr
  1. asdf 15 years ago
    
    Yep. Then free market rhetoric gets blamed for the republicans statist policy failures.
Silly Rabbit 15 years ago

Policy specifics are for joke candidates. Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
The Blind Vote 15 years ago

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Not Sure 15 years ago

Newt is surprisingly good in this debate... At least in comparison to the others. *sigh*
1. Sudden 15 years ago
  
  Newt is a reasonably smart, wonkish guy. He is also solid at speaking topically and eloquently (which is something that the GOP has lacked for some time). He's just a statist in too many regards, and that's the problem. He is smart, and he knows he's smart, and as a result, he thinks he can fix everything using govt power./
  1. - 15 years ago
    
    Being a nasty Christian bully also hurts his prospects with thinking people.
    1. Anonymous Biotch 15 years ago
      
      Amen.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Newt isn't even pretending to be running for office right now. He's acting like an analyst. I'm not sure what his step #2 is in his 3 step profit plan.
1. Jerry 15 years ago
  
  Perhaps he is setting up the stage for Rick Perry? Why else the shout out to Texas...
PantsFan 15 years ago

Michael Moore offers job to fired Senate page
"Michael Moore, the high-profile American activist and filmmaker, has offered a job to the Senate page who was fired Friday for her stunning protest against Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
...
Moore has become 21-year-old Brigette DePape's most prominent supporter, posting a photo on his website showing her holding up a "Stop Harper" sign in the Senate chamber during Friday's throne speech."
...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/st.....177c24da,1
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  Fuck M. Moore and fuck you for polluting this thread.
  1. Draco 15 years ago
    
    First time I've ever agreed with shrike.
  2. John C. Randolph 15 years ago
    
    Who are you, and what have you done with the real Shreck?
    
    -jcr
The Blind Vote 15 years ago

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Ventifact 15 years ago

Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
Blind Vote 15 years ago

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Shentivact 15 years ago

Silly rabbit, policy specifics are for joke candidates. Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
Ventifact 15 years ago

Silly rabbit, policy specifics are for joke candidates. Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Santorum just lost the NBC/TBS late night talk show vote.
1. Draco 15 years ago
  
  You just know that question was chosen to trap Santorum, who is clearly unlikely to be the kind of man who watches late night comedy TV - or any TV at all.
  1. Sudden 15 years ago
    
    TBN bro, TBN.
Sudden 15 years ago

Rick Santorum: Leno? Conan? Neither are on TBN so I wouldn't know.
1. Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago
  
  Q: "Astroglide, or KY?"
  
  A: "Either one works up a nice froth."
  1. Patrick 15 years ago
    
    When I learned about this alternative use of his name, I actually had a slightly more positive impression of Santorum.
    1. db 15 years ago
      
      ...alternative use of his name...
      
      Dude...chicken and egg...
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Boxers, or briefs?
The Blind?and Deaf Vote 15 years ago

Tnks w;f ;aivnn sbvcuw ?
Patrick 15 years ago

Christ, here come the mickey mouse questions on pop culture.
Vent 15 years ago

Silly rabbit, policy specifics are for joke candidates. Competitive candidates answer questions with emotional appeals.
Koan 15 years ago

I get the feeling that Herman Cain doesn't really know the details of any given issue - just puff and platitude. And . . . WTF? Leno or Conan? What an awful, un-serious question. But hey, it made Santorum look even douchier than normal.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Nearly every candidate's hard-on for manufacturing jobs is depressing.
1. Anonymous Biotch 15 years ago
  
  They've got to prove they have hardware and not flaccid shit like software.
Tom Walls 15 years ago

Ron was actually sounding quite mainstream in the last two answers (except the others don't really talk about the Fed).
Episiarch 15 years ago

I'm so glad I'm not watching this. I think I'll go sit by the pool and read from my Kindle. You guys will summarize tomorrow, right? Thanks for doing the hard work.
1. Douche Vote 15 years ago
  
  Episiarch in '12!
2. Sudden 15 years ago
  
  I can summarize for you right now Epi.
  
  We are so fucked.
  1. Episiarch 15 years ago
    
    Why do you think I'm not watching? Because I know it will be even worse than I imagine, and that's just fucking terrifying.
3. Anonymous Coward 15 years ago
  
  Summary:
  
  President Barack Obama arrives in Washington for his second inauguration speech after the GOP puts up a shit campaign with a shit candidate.
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Why does CNN have a photo of Romney's faceplate permanantly fixed to the left of the video stream?
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

I'm holding my avocado rotary phone up to that code and it's not doing a damn thing.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Why is Alan Colmes asking questions at the Republican debate?
1. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  Because he's always been a Republican plant to set up doofuses like Hannity. Or maybe the abused girlfriend analogy is more appropriate...
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Fuck, Kill, or Marry:
Lou Dobbs, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity
1. rather 15 years ago
  
  Fuck Sean Hannity cause he's a fucking bastard
  
  Kill Bill O'Reilly because I'm a patriot and not a pinhead.
  
  Marry Lou Dobbs cause I'd fuck him to death
2. heller 15 years ago
  
  Hannity, O'Reilly, Dobbs
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

It would be nice to have Gary Johnson there to back that answer up.
Inigo Carmine 15 years ago

Woot! Finally, Paul with a good answer. Shame he wussed out on the manufacturing jobs question.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

John Fahey is going to ask a question? This should most likely be rambling.
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN's polling the audience live: Went up as Cain said no to "to big to fail." That's good news.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

King knows his mic is on, right? When he's mumbling while the candidates are talking?
1. Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago
  
  Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright
Joe M 15 years ago

Romney making liquidation noises? No way.
Sudden 15 years ago

Mitt apparently doesn't feel it necessary to mention how the federales still have a significant equity stake in the auto companies that is currently one-half of what we invested in it.
shrike 15 years ago

Romney is so transparently pandering to his right-wing Poltergeist.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Yikes, I don't know if "keep government in its place" is a great phrase to use like 3 seconds after equating government to obama.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Kiss the auto industry. KISS IT!
Draco 15 years ago

Romney: "Keep government in its place, and let the private sector create the jobs."

Romney: "Obama gave GM to the UAW."
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Santorum: Government to the cronies: just the tip
SIV 15 years ago

Romney was for TARP wasn't he? He preferred central planning to the privte sector for financial institutions.
1. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  TARP for my buddies saved the financial industry and the money was paid back. The GM bailout against my buddies will kill the auto industry and the money can't really be paid back.
Not Sure 15 years ago

I want Michelle to say "Don't-cha know."
1. Joe M 15 years ago
  
  She's controlling the accent pretty well, I must say. She's usually worse.
  1. . 15 years ago
    
    Speaking of accents - where is Newt from? Sounds like the actor who used to play Ray Romano's ol' man.
    1. Zombie Peter Boyle 15 years ago
      
      You know Newt does look like Frankenstein's Monster.
      1. . 15 years ago
        
        Yeah, and Romney looks like Herman Munster.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Paulson and Bachmann: Behind Closed Doors.

Rule #34 rears its horribly disgusting head.
1. Wind Rider 15 years ago
  
  You're just not right. Ratfucker.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Steel cage death match between Bachmann and Rethugs BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
Not Sure 15 years ago

Newt! Stop sounding competent!!!
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Old lady is NOT buying what gingrich is selling.
Joe M 15 years ago

Wow Gingrich, slam on NASA. I love it. Everyone in my hometown is probably pissed though.
Amakudari 15 years ago

"Sadly, and I say 'sadly' because I have a Tasha Yar poster in my office. We should have lift vehicles and a moon base, too."
Draco 15 years ago

Newt seems to agree with Rand on the appropriateness of a Federal Govt role in manned space flight... but in the end he said it should be in private hands.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Hfs, the space program? This is really what we're talking about?
Tom Walls 15 years ago

Ron Paul was an early supporter of SDI. That was his space program.
1. John C. Randolph 15 years ago
  
  Got a citation for that? Doesn't sound like him.
  
  -jcr
shrike 15 years ago

Newt - Decentralize Space Programs!
Patrick 15 years ago

Trillions in debt and none of the Serious Candidates can even bring themselves to say they would cut the fucking space program.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

I guess it's Dump on Government Day. And on the eve of Flag Day.
SIV 15 years ago

Romney, Cain and Gingrich were for TARP.
T-Paw is/was for central energy planning.

Paul and Bachmann voted against both.
Joe M 15 years ago

Pawlenty, no one cares about the housing market. Tell us about the meat-packing market.
Amakudari 15 years ago

Ugh, Pawlenty talks about crony capitalism, but everything he's been saying thus far about scaling back government is hedged with private-public partnership talk. How do people figure crony capitalism comes into being?
1. hazeeran 15 years ago
  
  Must look less "EXTREMIST" to independents.
Bob Harris 15 years ago

For relaxing times, make it Santorum Time.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Oh yeah, Ron Paul is here. Forgot.
Not Sure 15 years ago

Ron Paul clearly knows policy, now if only he could learn politics.
1. CE 15 years ago
  
  Yeah, maybe then he could get elected to Congress for the 13th time.
shrike 15 years ago

Ron Paul "The Fed caused autism!"
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Good, confident answer from Ron Paul
Joe M 15 years ago

Whew Paul did very well on the housing question, but he probably scared people with the "housing prices must come down" bit.
1. CE 15 years ago
  
  Not me. I want to buy a house. Keep on dropping.
Draco 15 years ago

Ron Paul always displays a maximum of what Paul Fussell described in Class as "prole jacket gape." His ill-fitting jacket is gaping a full 2 inches in some instances.

Note, by contrast, the the moderator's jacket fits his neck and shoulders perfectly.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Herman Caine doesn't want you to have e. coli. Now, lets talk about housing.
Not Sure 15 years ago

For what it's worth, during Ron Paul's rambling answer, CNN's live poll popped up to 70 (from 50 baseline) for both Republicans and Independents (no Democrats are being polled.)
Jerry 15 years ago

So this guy Cain owned a pizza chain, and wants the federal government to do food inspections. Fail.
1. Patrick 15 years ago
  
  Makes sense in some ways - multi-million dollar corporate pizza chains can absorb compliance costs and de facto bribes much easier than the local shops.
Amakudari 15 years ago

Cain subtext: "I heard your question and I'm going to answer something else."

I kind of like this.
The Truth 15 years ago

The inside of Ron Paul's brain is just a 30 second looptape about the Federal Reserve stuck on "repeat".
1. heller 15 years ago
  
  Tell us about China, you're boring otherwise.
2. CE 15 years ago
  
  It's called "staying on message". Eventually people will get it.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Small government conservatism has basically become huge state governmentism
Tom Walls 15 years ago

Did Romney just say "Febbagubbamint"?
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Cain: As a Republican businessman in teh food industry, yes, the Feds should be doing food safety. Fanfuckingtastic.
1. johnl 15 years ago
  
  The most important thing the government can do is ensure the safety of the food supply. So the obvious candidate is the one with the most foodservice experience. Or something.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Did Romney just threaten to kill me if I don't pay back my debt?
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Why do I keep expecting to see a chainsaw on the end of Romney's arm?
shrike 15 years ago

No "terrier-ism" questions yet.

Bush/Cheney is so 2003.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

If Gingrich is right that these candidates need to be shaping the message for the Republican party, then their eagerness to take everything unpopular the federal government is doing and have state governments do it is very troubling.
Koan 15 years ago

Ok so far . . . All of them pretty much suck, but Paul and Bachmann are better than the rest.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

TWITTER! LOOK AWAY BEFORE YOU SEE A WEINER!
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Helllooooooo Carole R. Davis! Ah-cha-cha-cha
Not Sure 15 years ago

Independents like that Ron Paul uses a Blackberry, according to CNN's live poll.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Admit it, Ron Paul juts picked his favorite fruit. It has lots of fiber.
1. SIV 15 years ago
  
  Kiss the gay vote goodbye.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Physician, heal thy self's poor choice in ties.
The Truth 15 years ago

/TEH FED! THE FED! TEH FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!

It's the answer to everything!
1. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  Except he didn't mention the Fed.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Ron Paul: As an elderly person who many think thinks like a child, trust me on this.
David 15 years ago

Ron Fuckin' Paul!
Draco 15 years ago

Ron Paul: The Man Who Took Eisenhower Seriously.

"End the military industrial complex!"
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN live poll: Both Independents and Republicans spiked to 90 on cutting military and opting out during Ron Paul's response.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Pawlenty: We need to keep promises that we can't keep.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Pawlenty: Not enough Obama!
1. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  I don't quite understand his strategy. "Vote for me, but Obama's actually a pretty cool guy."
Inigo Carmine 15 years ago

Prone to rambling yes,..but every time Paul *doesn't* mention the FED he ends up putting out a solid response
David 15 years ago

You'd be suprised how many people want to "opt out".
1. Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago
  
  Turn on, tune in, opt out.
Joe M 15 years ago

Newt, we're falling asleep here.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

How could Obama run you over if you were in the back seat?
Joe M 15 years ago

Shorter Newt: "Cut waste, fraud, and abuse, dang it!"
Inigo Carmine 15 years ago

By the way, is everyone else getting the Cadillac ad EVERY commercial break? Doesn't GM realize they're not getting endorsed here?
RP 15 years ago

I'll let you opt out of the WHOLE SYSTEM!
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Fantastic. Medicare Part D is being praised.
Joe M 15 years ago

If only Santorum were an atheist, he might be okay.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Rick Santorum is talking. YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!
shrike 15 years ago

Ron Paul without Isolationism is like Barry Bonds without juice!

DAMMIT!!!! Not fair!
David 15 years ago

"Fantastic. Medicare Part D is being praised." Why wouldn't you praise it?! Bush policies always worked so well.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

While you're fired up, Mr. Cain, let's talk muslims.
1. Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago
  
  IT'S ON BABY!
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Santorum always looks like he's about a split second into gazing into the ark of the convenant. Will he melt, explode, or burst into flames?

I think it's the (lack of) lips, or the teeth. Or something.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  He would approve your comment.
Joe M 15 years ago

W00h00 Chile rulez. Wait, we don't have to raise the retirement age because raising it isn't enough???
Draco 15 years ago

People: Medicare is transfer program. Stop adding up what you "paid in" and complaining you're not going to get your fair share. It's just like SS. It's a simple transfer, each year, from current earners to retirees. The only thing it "owes" you is to continue to force people to pay into it when you get old yourself.
1. Robert 15 years ago
  
  The only way to get your share of Medicare is to get very sick and stay that way for a long time, once you're old. I don't think anyone actually seeks that.
shrike 15 years ago

Flava Cain pussing out on retirement age.
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN's live poll: Independents like Cain's Personal Retirement Accounts. More so than Republicans (WTF?!)
1. Not Sure 15 years ago
  
  CNN's live poll: Republicans like Romney, Independents not as much.
Patrick 15 years ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Galveston in RP's district?
1. Joe M 15 years ago
  
  It is.
Joe M 15 years ago

I was confused about Romney's response, then I remembered he's on pure attack mode. He's not interested in giving a substantive answer, he's just talking about the blandest generalities, spiced with buzzwords stolen from other candidates playbooks.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  Romney like a hockey team with a 1-0 lead ...
  
  speaking of which?
  1. Robert 15 years ago
    
    Yeah, but Weiner's the one killing the penalty.
    1. Greg 15 years ago
      
      I thought he was the one pulling his goalie?
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Man asleep in the audience. First person I'm jealous of for being there.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Someone more eloquent than Bachmann? This could, literally, be anyone.
1. Bee Tagger 15 years ago
  
  On cue, "Crongress"
Not Sure 15 years ago

President Besh? Who's he?
Barack Obama 15 years ago

Bachmann, why you bringing up old shit?
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

A ginger! The end is nigh!
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Here comes the out-religify segment of the broadcast.
Amakudari 15 years ago

Here's the thing: they keep talking about "our kids."

The people who will be affected by the first large increases in taxes or cuts in benefits related to entitlements are voting age adults, and have been for a while.
shrike 15 years ago

Pawlenty - "I suck up to fundies".
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

This is some supremely thick irony from Santorum. I'm flabbergasted.
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

TPaw just dropped a God bomb on the mutherfucking HOUSE!!!
+1!!!!!
Draco 15 years ago

"Faith and Reason"

Whoops. Santorum just lost the Objectivist vote.

On the other hand, he may have cemented the Thomist vote - which is probably a win for him.
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN's live poll again spikes above other candidates when Ron Paul answered.
Joe M 15 years ago

News flash: god gets applause.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Let the Herman Cain trainwreck commence!
1. Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago
  
  Better than that Super 8 trailer.
2. Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago
  
  That wasn't so bad. He just dislikes the bad ones.
shrike 15 years ago

Put RP on legal drugs for an easy win, you stupid fucks!

Oops - Flava Cain axed about Muzzies!
David 15 years ago

"Here's the thing: they keep talking about "our kids."

The people who will be affected by the first large increases in taxes or cuts in benefits related to entitlements are voting age adults, and have been for a while."
Bbb-but you'd have to stop kickin' the can down the road and take immediate action, OH MY GAWD
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN's live poll: Independents hate Muslims. (Was above 90)
1. Joe M 15 years ago
  
  Yeah wtf? I would've guessed Republicans would've been higher that time.
Amakudari 15 years ago

Cain just lost the Wahhabist vote.
shrike 15 years ago

Fuck Cain - Neil Boortz sucks his cock - so I hate him.
1. SIV 15 years ago
  
  Neal isn't shillin' for Herman. Expect Boortz to endorse the most "mainstream Republican"
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

"We have a Constitution..."

And we have an individual mandate.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Newt just Godwinned the shit outta this joint. Debate over!
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Nazis! Commies!
Joe M 15 years ago

Wow, Newt, so gutsy of you to say no traitors in your administration.
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN live poll: Republicans and Independents both liked Newt's answer. Confirmed: Everyone think Muslims are traitors.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Newt Gingrich: No to hiring enemies of the United States to serve in his administration.
1. Patrick 15 years ago
  
  Sadly, too long for a bumper sticker.
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Deep Dish - that's at least one Muslim that'll be voting for Cain. Seriously, I went to High School with him. Smart guy.
David 15 years ago

"Deep Dish", sorry, your position on thin crust pizza was the deciding factor for me casting my vote for you.
Koan 15 years ago

Gingrich just clearly stated, and with greater eloquence, what Cain was verbally fumbling about. Good answer too - this is something I consider a libertarian blind spot. If it were me, I would have zero Muslims working in a capacity that asked them to place the Constitution ahead of their faith, since technically, it's impossible for them to do so.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  Agree - but same with Christians.
  
  I hate all superstition equally.
  1. Auntie Semitic 15 years ago
    
    How 'bout Joos?
2. heller 15 years ago
  
  I'll give you a hint: The Constitution isn't a libertarian document.
shrike 15 years ago

But Newt hates us Secularists - like me and the FUCKING FOUNDERS!!!

What a fucking tool who thinks he is a historian.
Jerry 15 years ago

Question for Newt Gingrich: is America ready for a Catholic president?
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  Too easy - JFK.
  
  better - is USA ready for a rational prez?
  1. Jerry 15 years ago
    
    But Catholic baiting was happening at the same time as commie baiting and nazi baiting, something Gingrich should have known as a historian.
    1. shrike 15 years ago
      
      Newt is FOR baiting.
      
      just not his kind. Easy for him to deflect.
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN's live poll: Independents like spicy.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Governor Romney just lost the Canuck vote.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Romney: revealing Bruins score came across as very human
The laugh: strange alien.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  DADT boring the shit out of everyone and I am pro-gay rights.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN's live poll: Independents not up with traditional marriage.
1. Not Sure 15 years ago
  
  Independents really like marriage being left to the state.
SIV 15 years ago

MICHELLE!!! Michelle!!!
1. SIV 15 years ago
  
  Perfect answer
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Pawlenty's words: lost the gay vote
Pawlenty's dimples: bringin 'em right back
David 15 years ago

Ron Paul won that round.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Government marriage is gay.
MWG 15 years ago

Gay marriage?

Seems the candidates are competing for who can be the biggest dick.
1. hazeeran 15 years ago
  
  Paul lost.
  1. MWG 15 years ago
    
    I get what you did there.
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

"23 Foster kids: Mr. Cain, does that mean Ms. Bachmann has 23 foster kids, or 30?"
1. SIV 15 years ago
  
  WIN!
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

An amendment would overturn state law.
Amakudari 15 years ago

Is it just me, or is Pawlenty pissing everyone off? Libertarians, sure, but he's the squishiest Republican there. Who likes this guy?
Patrick 15 years ago

We're actually in 4 wars, T-Paw.
David 15 years ago

Government marriage is gay as hell.
Puffopadrino 15 years ago

My favorite part,"I hate fags more than you do!".
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Gingrich: No meatgazing or snorkeling allowed in my military!
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Bachmann would keep don't ask don't tell but not go into states to overturn their gay militaries
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Punish the gays unless they're into that.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Point for Santorum: he is truly authentically disgusting.
generic Brand 15 years ago

Bachmann, as president, would confer with the "commander in chiefs [sic]"
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Sanctity of straight life.
Almanian Towelie 15 years ago

I have no idea what's goin' on.

You wanna get high?
shrike 15 years ago

Wingnuts - KILL ABORTION DOCTORS!!!

All will agree, of course.
1. sevo 15 years ago
  
  One of these days, a strawman will learn to hit back, and you'll be in deep trouble.
MWG 15 years ago

I once heard Bachmann raised 23 foster children. Is that true?
1. Publius Cato 15 years ago
  
  In a row?
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Declaration of Independents??? She stole Welch and Gillespie's book title!
Draco 15 years ago

Abortion Rights:

Thomas Aquinas 7
Ayn Rand 0

based on these candidates' answers.
SIV 15 years ago

Bachmann-5 babies

Ron Paul- FOUR THOUSAND!
Amakudari 15 years ago

Live births per candidate:
Bachmann - 5
Romney - 0
Pawlenty - 0
Paul - 0
Cain - 0
1. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  And no, delivering kids doesn't count. That's like leading the league in assists.
  1. Almanian 15 years ago
    
    +5
    1. Matt 15 years ago
      
      Good for her, that doesn't qualify her to tell other women what to do though. Must be nice to be able to afford 5 kids. Not everyone has that luxury.
      1. SIV 15 years ago
        
        5 of her own
        23 that other people didn't want
        I'm sure the 23 are quite happy they weren't aborted
        
        sevo 15 years ago
        
        "I'm sure the 23 are quite happy they weren't aborted"
        Are you familiar with the concept of 'non-falsifiable'?
        
        Robert 15 years ago
        
        5 of her own
        23 that other people didn't want
        
        Well, we know who's the candidate of the Illuminati.
      2. Wind Rider 15 years ago
        
        Goes a long way towards explaining some of her positions - she's obviously had unprotected sex, and it took her 5 episodes to figure out how that works. Good on her for playing mommy to 23 extras - but I don;t feel like being a part of the next 300 million or so she wants to play mommy for.
      3. Anonymous Biotch 15 years ago
        
        As long as you get every childless person in your village to pitch in with property taxes, you sure can afford 5 kids. After all, it takes a fucking socialist village to raise 5 kids.
  2. Joe M 15 years ago
    
    Come on, don't you think you could come up with a conversion ratio, maybe like 1000:1?
    1. Amakudari 15 years ago
      
      This isn't hockey. In my opinion, babies are more like scoring in basketball.
      1. Pope Jimbo 15 years ago
        
        WTF? Have you ever tried dribbling a baby? Dude they don't bounce well and the soft spot in their head makes it super hard to tell which way they are going to rebound off the rim.
shrike 15 years ago

T-Paw - "I am more pro-feti than you, bitch!"
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

T-Paw personally impregnated every woman in sight in Minnesota. That's how Pro Life he is.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  T-Paw/Weiner!!!
Puffopadrino 15 years ago

Where does Bachmann stand on the death penalty?
1. ? 15 years ago
  
  On your neck?
generic Brand 15 years ago

Deport that bitch!
Almanian 15 years ago

ROADZZZZ!
MWG 15 years ago

Illegal immigration?
1. Almanian 15 years ago
  
  ANCHOR BABEEEEEEEEEEEZ!
2. MWG 15 years ago
  
  Sanotrum's a dick and Paul... doesn't really make sense.
  1. MWG 15 years ago
    
    Damn! Newt seemed reasonable.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Legal immigration. It's a great wellspring of hard to understand accents.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Somerset County. Sly 9-11 reference.
Not Sure 15 years ago

Paul: Learn to focus.
Almanian 15 years ago

I came to this broadcast looking for intelligent life....AND COULDN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE.

Except on H&R, bien sur...
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Ron Paul just lost Martin Luther's vote.
1. Almanian 15 years ago
  
  RAAAAACIST!
  1. Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago
    
    Can't we all just get along?
2. M. Luthizzle 15 years ago
  
  "You'd BEST be recognizing the PROTESTANT compassion, G-Ron! Don't make me get up out this grave fool!" --
Almanian 15 years ago

When are they going to talk about the Ground Zero Mosque?

Cause THAT's what I want to hear about!
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  Wait for the Fox News debate.
  
  Mosques and Sharia' 100% all the time - all for you!
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Holy crap Ron Paul just shat all over the stage. That was a mess.
Dylboz 15 years ago

The Catholic Church? REALLY?
Mike 15 years ago

Ron Paul, PantslessGrandpa for President!
generic Brand 15 years ago

This moderator sucks a gay illegal immigrant's aborted anchor baby's dick!

(NTTAWWT)
1. Anonymous Biotch 15 years ago
  
  ROTFL.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Cleaning up the bureaucracy? Lemon squeezy.
Koan 15 years ago

Man, T-paw is almost as reprehensible as Santorum. Cain is actually growing on me a bit. Romney is not coming off very well.
Fire Tiger 15 years ago

I showed up to this thread with a case of beer and only 1 call to drink. Damned teetotalers.
1. Almanian 15 years ago
  
  DRINK! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!
  
  I hope that helped. Just trying to be helpful.
2. Anonymous Biotch 15 years ago
  
  Remember to thank Allah and the Holy Prophet Mohammed before you drink your beer.
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN live poll: Independents seem to be more in favor of anti-immigration policies than Republicans.
Dylboz 15 years ago

He can focus alright. It's always the economy, I mean, the Fed, stupid. Even when no one wants to hear it. That, and the Catholic Church.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Newt Gingrich: Binary Hunter
Puffopadrino 15 years ago

Bear Patrol!
Matt 15 years ago

Cain is holding his own. Too much Muslim baiting though. That's not necessary and is undercutting his credibility.
1. Matt 15 years ago
  
  Can't believe I'm saying this but I actually loved Romney's rebuttal to Cain's Sharia obsession.
2. Almanian 15 years ago
  
  SHARIA GROUND ZERO MOSQUE AL QUEDA MOOSLIM ANTI-ISRAEL!
  1. MWG 15 years ago
    
    Ground Zero Mosque? What the hell is that?
shrike 15 years ago

There are no winners in this debate.

Someone needs to pull their cock out and fuck Michelle Bachmann in the ass to get my vote!
Joe M 15 years ago

Ooh, wow, an actually good question.
generic Brand 15 years ago

Paul McCartney needs to learn how to read
1. John Edwards 15 years ago
  
  I'm doing okay so far?
David 15 years ago

Hell yes! Ron Paul is doin' better on this one.
Joe M 15 years ago

Ooh, yeah, Paul rehearsed this talking point. I read it earlier.
1. Joe M 15 years ago
  
  Specifically the own vs rent point.
Draco 15 years ago

Ron Paul is lovable, but obviously not electable. We need to face the truth here. He'd make a great Supreme Court appointee though!
1. MWG 15 years ago
  
  I hate to agree. I agree with almost everything Paul says... when I can understand what he's saying.
  1. Amakudari 15 years ago
    
    He just comes off as really jumpy. Too many of his answers consist of a laundry list, and then he finally stops and elaborates on one.
    1. MWG 15 years ago
      
      This.
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN live poll: Independents like Ron Paul's eminent domain response more than Republicans. (Above 90)
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Crowd: Yay for property rights.
1. Joe M 15 years ago
  
  There's hope yet.
generic Brand 15 years ago

Maybe already been said, but definitely some Ronulans in the crowd
1. SIV 15 years ago
  
  Romney goes for the Taliban vote.
MWG 15 years ago

Energy independence!

Barf.
Amakudari 15 years ago

The best thing about the NH deal is that it probably wouldn't reduce "dependence on furrin oil." It would just steal shit.
Joe M 15 years ago

Romney: good stuff good, uh, America, get on track baby.
Joe M 15 years ago

See, Santorum is relatively good on economics. He's pointing in the right direction, though his arrow stops a bit short.
David 15 years ago

There's a lot of Ronulans period bro, they follow him around like flies on shit.
generic Brand 15 years ago

Haha T-Paw a little too quick with the "coke" call. Better get SWAT on the stage during the commerical
Draco 15 years ago

Oh good... They're going to address the War on Food.

The ethanol subsidy is perhaps the single worst policy in the past 20 years. Unless you want to see people around the world die of starvation. And have your car engine destroyed from the inside.
1. Robert 15 years ago
  
  The threat always seems to come from the inside, doesn't it?
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

John King just lost the Royal Crown vote.
1. Not Sure 15 years ago
  
  Ever see the Boston Legal episode where they compared Pepsi and Coke to Republicans and Democrats, and then called third parties Royal Crown? Was awesome.
Matt 15 years ago

HELL yeah, foreign policy up next. This is about to get NASTY!
1. hazeeran 15 years ago
  
  Can't wait for the Chamberlain accusations!
shrike 15 years ago

Pawlently's "Coke" answer was the clear winner now - for the crucial Southern vote.

Hands down winner.
1. Fire Tiger 15 years ago
  
  No, for the southern vote the correct answer would have been 'RC'.
  1. CE 15 years ago
    
    You mean "Dr. Pepper".
Koan 15 years ago

Rapid poll: who do you fuck in the ass first? Bachmann or Palin?
1. Almanian 15 years ago
  
  yes
2. Amakudari 15 years ago
  
  Skeptical of both. Seem too fertile. Don't know how it would work, but it just seems too risky.
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

Foreing policy's next? Where's HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN to explain it all? I need me some HTS...
Jerry 15 years ago

Romney: against private property taking, except when it serves to build a stadium for the Boston Bruins.
David 15 years ago

Heh, we're about to hear some Neo-Cons argue that it's a good thing that we have 900+ military bases around the world. We're in for a treat! Ron Paul is gonna kick some ass on this part.
Almanian 15 years ago

SUBWAY has my vote, so far
generic Brand 15 years ago

Is that Mike Ditka asking the FP question?
generic Brand 15 years ago

Is that Mike Ditka asking the FP question?
? 15 years ago

Does the winner get to impregnate Michelle Bachmann? And what if she wins? A strap-on session with Santorum?
generic Brand 15 years ago

Fuckin' Romney, wants to hand it right back to the terrorists
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Ha! Great spit take from the soldier on the Taliban gaffe.
hazeeran 15 years ago

Romney: neverrrr leave
Terr 15 years ago

Romney, you slimy cunt.
Puffopadrino 15 years ago

The Talibanian Canidate
1. hazeeran 15 years ago
  
  Romney won the Pashtun vote.
MWG 15 years ago

Endless War baby!
1. Almanian 15 years ago
  
  The Beach Boys next album
shrike 15 years ago

Oh GAWD!!!

GOP anti-matter "Lets be anti-war" after Bush/Cheney rah rah war love.

I am truly sick.

Go Ron Paul!
Anonymous 15 years ago

I'm commenting without even watching!
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

EastAsia. I mean Eurasia! Eurasia!
Almanian 15 years ago

Go Ronnie, go Ronnie, go Ronnie...
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN live poll: Independents liked Ron Paul when he said "Libya." Didn't like anything else he said.
hazeeran 15 years ago

Paul's up to date compared to Paws, more than two wars.
Dagny T. 15 years ago

Wow, I turned this shit on for a few moments of respite from the pathetic excuse for hockey the Canucks are playing. Romney is worse.
1. Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago
  
  If it makes you feel any better, I think the Bruins have a few Canadians on their team, too.
  1. Dagny T. 15 years ago
    
    It doesn't! Vancouver is my former hometown, and those goofy Canadians will lose their shit if they win the cup. If home ice advantage holds out, maybe the Canucks can pull it off in game 7, because they aren't looking good so far.
    1. Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago
      
      In hockey, early leads were made to be lost. So don't give up.
2. Mensan 15 years ago
  
  I'm rooting for orcas since the bears beat my Bolts.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Ron Paul: Our troops making things worse.
Joe M 15 years ago

So Republicans still like bombing foreign countries, apparently. Independents are a little more intelligent, however.
Almanian 15 years ago

*barf*
Dylboz 15 years ago

GAWD! Quit verbally fellating the military! GET ON WITH IT!
1. Almanian 15 years ago
  
  yeah, that's what caused me to *barf*
  1. Dagny T. 15 years ago
    
    Me too. Platitudes AND time-wasting! How presidential.
Joe M. 15 years ago

Pawlenty, shut the fuck up you fucking phony-ass motherfucker.
generic Brand 15 years ago

Ron Paul just killed that debate better than a SEAL team takes down terrorist leaders
Almanian 15 years ago

I can't watch any more. 5minutes is too much.

Bye, all!
proegg antichicken 15 years ago

that motherfucker. Invoking "support the troops" is forced applause. You can't not clap, that's treason.
1. Anonymous 15 years ago
  
  Try not standing up for the National Anthem. Baseball fans can be so mean.
  1. proegg antichicken 15 years ago
    
    Yeah, but I'll stand for that. Tpaw is just a pandering whorebag, baseball less so.
MWG 15 years ago

Pawlenty is such a douche.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  bag.
Puffopadrino 15 years ago

"Sept. 11th" Drink!
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN live poll: No one likes Libya.
proegg antichicken 15 years ago

who's this bitch?
Almanian 15 years ago

You know who else likes to "lead from behind"?

OK I'm outta here for real...
1. Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago
  
  Buttman.
SIV 15 years ago

Fuck the Frogs!
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

"Leading from behind."

"We're the head, not the tail."

Are we back on DADT?
Dylboz 15 years ago

I like RP saying hey, THE POTUS RULES THE MILITARY, and NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND! I hate all this deference to the Pentagon. "I'll listen to the Generals" is bullshit!
1. Matt 15 years ago
  
  Took some serious nuts to say that! Wow.
Joe M. 15 years ago

Okay, everyone, the debate is almost over. What's the official storyline going to be for this one? Let's see:

"Romney steady, Bachmann makes a big splash."

That was what they were prepping up beforehand, I believe.
1. Not Sure 15 years ago
  
  Newt didn't slit his throat.
Puffopadrino 15 years ago

We're not a "bottom".
Draco 15 years ago

Go Michelle! No vital national interest in Libya!
obi juan 15 years ago

fraNCE!!!

I like how she got louder when she said it.
MWG 15 years ago

Bachmann: North africans and arabs fighting dictatorships are Al Qaeda terrorists in sheeps clothing.
1. MWG 15 years ago
  
  Same with Newt.
Ryan 15 years ago

Fundamentally! Drink!
Amakudari 15 years ago

Libya was the second-largest producer of people who wanted to kill Americans in Iraq?

Maybe we shouldn't fucking be in Iraq.
Jerry 15 years ago

Note to Bachmann: Libya bombed a German disco full with American servicemen.
1. Matt 15 years ago
  
  ...25 years ago
proegg antichicken 15 years ago

GOOD question.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Greg Salts: Fire the troops.
Terr 15 years ago

what the fuck did herman cain just babble?
1. Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago
  
  For the first time, a candidate was hoping for that 30 second mark.
  1. proegg antichicken 15 years ago
    
    Luntz's classroom of 'tards will eat it up.
Patrick 15 years ago

Cain clearly inherited his way with words from his grandmother.
Mike 15 years ago

Oh my god Cain paraphrased his grandmother!
SIV 15 years ago

He knows the answer to his own question.
MWG 15 years ago

Military Question: Awesom

Santorum's a dick.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

THE SOVIETS ARE COMING!
shrike 15 years ago

Ron Paul - clear winner.

But not based on performance - based on the others douchebaggery.
1. MWG 15 years ago
  
  How the republican party has fallen when the least articulate also appears to be the smartest.
  1. The Thinking Man's NASCAR 15 years ago
    
    Appears to be? Try "is".
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

I'm calling it: Romney/Santorum: Lack of Affect for American in 2012!
Ryan 15 years ago

Fecklessness. I'm impressed.
Amakudari 15 years ago

God I hate Romney.
Koan 15 years ago

Foreign policy CLUSTERFUCK!
Puffopadrino 15 years ago

I'm totally fine with that Lithuanian military base over in Crown Heights.
Koan 15 years ago

What the fuck is with that moderator's mumbling?? It's not even mumbling - it's like "Erp.Um.Erp.Hmm.Erp." I almost expect to see him twiddling his knob when the camera pans to him. CREEPY!
Bender Bending Rodriguez 15 years ago

I kinda liked this Cain guy when he played the cop in "Die Hard", and the dad in "Family Matters" As a candidate, not so much.
Mensan 15 years ago

Polls represent a burumiter?
Joe M. 15 years ago

That is one of the stupidest questions ever. Wtf does talking about polling have to do with being president?
proegg antichicken 15 years ago

they can't help but reference Palin, she looms large
Joe M. 15 years ago

Wait, the VP question was worse.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

Biden's shining example of buffoonery is his opinion on Iraq?
generic Brand 15 years ago

Probably THE best question of the night, putting them on the spot and making them dis Biden at the same time
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Pawlenty: Iraq Mission Accomplished
Not Sure 15 years ago

CNN live poll: Everyone liked the Biden bashing; Independents didn't like Sarah Palin support.
MWG 15 years ago

Pawlenty is campaigning for Palin.

Barf.
Ryan 15 years ago

Independents dove when Paw said Palin was qualified to be Pres.
shrike 15 years ago

T-Paw "Iraq shining example of success"

Someone put a buttplug in that idiots mouth!
1. Joe M. 15 years ago
  
  Ask Santorum.
2. Jerry 15 years ago
  
  If by success you mean having a car bomb explode outside a police station in Basra, killing five: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Wo.....t=hs&or=tn
Joe M. 15 years ago

Interesting, independents don't like "moderate" Romney's response as much as Republicans.
1. Not Sure 15 years ago
  
  Independents seem to like Ron Paul. WTF?
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

PICK GARY JOHNSON. DO IT.
iluvthefed 15 years ago

DRINK
Joe M. 15 years ago

HAHAHAHA, hilarious surprise: Paul's litmus test is how you feel about the Fed.
David 15 years ago

Lol, Ron Paul cracks me up.
generic Brand 15 years ago

"They haven't even told me how they feel about the Federal Reserve, yet!"

Thattaboy Ron!!
Patrick 15 years ago

Ron, you could have said Gary Johnson and taken CNN to task. Fastball right down the fucking middle.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  True. RP isn't a A-ready.
  
  But he is still the WINNER!!!!!
  
  RP!!! YeeHAW Motherfuckers!!
  1. Patrick 15 years ago
    
    As a new commenter, let me join in a tradition of veteran commentators on H&R.
    
    Shut the fuck up, Shrike.
    1. shrike 15 years ago
      
      Join the list of failures!!
    2. Mensan 15 years ago
      
      Fast learner
2. Matt 15 years ago
  
  Well he did technically answer the question. But man that was kind of cold.
  
  The libertarian subset of the Republican field seems to be more hostile to each other than the rest of the candidates are to each other.
  1. Robert 15 years ago
    
    Of course. You should usually try first to knock out the candidate most similar to yourself.
3. CrackertyAssCracker 15 years ago
  
  +1. I had that in real time too. It wasn't that hard.
Joe M. 15 years ago

OMG Newt you make me sick.
MWG 15 years ago

Bachmann: I've learned about the goodness of Americans in the last 2 hrs.

Barf.
1. Stormy Dragon 15 years ago
  
  If Michele Obama had said that, tomorrow's headline would have been why she didn't think America was good before tonight.
  1. MWG 15 years ago
    
    I was thinking the same thing regarding Bachmann. 2.1 hours ago she thought Americans where a bunch of assholes.
    1. Mensan 15 years ago
      
      I still think that.
Bee Tagger 15 years ago

New Hampshire is so great because they're so easily pandered to!
Amakudari 15 years ago

Iraq will cost around $3 trillion. That's $10,000 per American.

I'm sorry, it better be a pretty damn awesome place with cheap beer and nice women that Americans can go to for free for anyone to say it was worth it. Last I checked, it was full of sandstorms and car bombs.
Mensan 15 years ago

I learned that CNN wants to limit the candidates' time to answer, so they would have time to ask irrelevant questions about boxers or briefs.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

T-Paw just stole the Beantown vote.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  yes -the 30% GOP vote.
  
  What a dipshit.
2. proegg antichicken 15 years ago
  
  the pandering whore is strong in this one.
3. Kolohe 15 years ago
  
  However, he did astutely calculate that Canadians don't vote.
Ryan 15 years ago

Think of the children!!!
Mike 15 years ago

Oh the people of New Hampshire! *gargle gargle*
1. Joe M. 15 years ago
  
  Keep gargling.
Mike 15 years ago

Oh the people of New Hampshire! *gargle gargle*
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Wait. This whole time that wasn't Anderson Cooper moderating?
SIV 15 years ago

Fuh duh chilluns and grandchilluns!
Irresponsible Hater 15 years ago

I've learned to live a little more. I've learned to love a little more. I've learned that my back hurts when I stand too long at a lecturn. And before the debate, back in the greenroom, I learned to try harder not to sit on my own balls. I just about cried back there.
Mensan 15 years ago

That's Newcular Titties, Anderson Cooper. Get it right!
Joe M. 15 years ago

Paul really REALLY should've said Gary Johnson. That would've been awesome.
shrike 15 years ago

How will Frank Luntz spin this debacle?

Off to Pravda!
Koan 15 years ago

Winners: Bachmann and Paul. Everyone else . . . losers, by degree. Gingrich actually made some spot on observations. Cain was ok, but he cannot master the issues with the requisite authority to make him a real consideration. Santorum/T-Paw/Romney . .. all of them are basically the same level of evil.
1. Mike E 15 years ago
  
  Basically how I view the whole thing.
2. SIV 15 years ago
  
  I'll third that.
3. Matt 15 years ago
  
  Bachmann was less than impressive mostly. As much as I disagree with Gingerich at times, he is articulate and a good orator. I like Cain's speaking style -- very direct -- but the Muslim-baiting's gotta go. Santorum -- again, disagree with him on lots of stuff but he makes good points. As for T-Paw, I can't understand why anyone takes him seriously. He almost put me to sleep every time he talked. Hopefully he'll drop out soon and he'll probably kiss up to Romney -- I think he's positioning himself as a VP candidate right now. Seriously how much better would this debate have been if Gary Johnson had been there instead of Tim Pawlenty? He was a way better governor than t-paw, that's for sure.
  1. Matt 15 years ago
    
    Edit -- meant to say Santorum makes ARTICULATE points, not "good" points.
4. Thorbie 15 years ago
  
  Agreed. Bachmann presented herself well. The dumbest thing she said was the contradiction of not trying to change an individual state's marriage laws while also supporting a constitutional amendment to ban same sex marriage. Paul mumbled a lot and actually to my surprise I wasn't that satisfied with many of his answers. He actually didn't sound that different from the other candidates, other than having a much much clearer understanding of economics. Everyone else took at least one idiotic position. Romney didn't denounce Romneycare, Pawlenty was for "fair trade," Cain avoided taking a position on issues and made a bizarre comment on muslims, Santorum is running a purely social conservative campaign and Gingrich reinforced his campaign staff's decision to abandon him.
  1. Kolohe 15 years ago
    
    The dumbest thing she said was the contradiction of not trying to change an individual state's marriage laws while also supporting a constitutional amendment to ban same sex marriage
    
    I'm going to her credit on being wrong on policy but neither dumb nor inconsistent. She said she wouldn't use her 'power as the president' to overturn state marriage laws. A constitutional amendment is a different thing. (and which everyone else except Paul supported wrongly too)
    1. Matt 15 years ago
      
      I love how Republicans support amendments that have no way in hell of actually passing. Great way to throw scraps to the mob without actually doing anything (in this case it's actually a good thing nothing gets done).
Draco 15 years ago

Be prepared for an onslaught of left-wing feminist fury against Michelle Bachmann which will make the previous effort against Palin look like a pillow fight.
1. shrike 15 years ago
  
  Won't happen - yet, unless MB becomes famous.
  
  The liberal whores I know (and love) are for Tina Fey and anti-SP.
  
  MB needs some Big Exposure first.
  1. Matt 15 years ago
    
    Meh -- that's not going to happen. Bachmann is a lot more composed and disciplined than Palin, at least as far as I can tell. She's more businesslike. Not as good bait for press attacks.
    1. Wind Rider 15 years ago
      
      I see someone has forgotten how easily Ms. Bachman's buttons can get pushed, and she can spout off the most knee jerk response a good marionette of the media can deliver. . .
Draco 15 years ago

Be prepared for an onslaught of left-wing feminist fury against Michelle Bachmann which will make the previous effort against Palin look like a pillow fight.
Kolohe 15 years ago

The Nobama sign won the debate.
http://www.theonion.com/articl.....for,20680/

Everyone was nice. And everyone but Paul was basically the same (which is not a big surprise)

I bet everyone that was on that stage (and their advisors - where they exist) already realizes that everyone can't keep being nice and being the same and overtake Romney.
1. Matt 15 years ago
  
  I really would have liked to have seen Johnson in this debate. This is exactly the kind of debate I was afraid of. Everyone is super cordial, Ron is his usual self and Mitt walks away looking the best. He is cleverly positioning himself as RP lite on many issues.
  1. Joe M. 15 years ago
    
    He's positioning himself as everyone-lite. Taking bits and pieces of conservative talking points and mixing them into his generic campaign speech bullshit.
    1. Not Sure 15 years ago
      
      Turn it off
Matt 15 years ago

T-Paw is one of the most submissive candidates I've ever seen for president. He totally rolled over for Romney on the Robama care question. How obsequious can you get?
1. proegg antichicken 15 years ago
  
  just you wait. I'll bet T-paw can be more spineless than a worm. He the "safe" inoffensive choice that makes everyone vomit.
  1. shrike 15 years ago
    
    You're too kind to T-Paw.
Puffopadrino 15 years ago

Is Romney really the shoe-in to loose to Obama next year or can any other of the candidates on that stage be the one to fail?
Turkey 15 years ago

I wish Ron Paul would have done better. His responses fealt good. But his response regarding the Fed seemed too intellectual, and not enough to convince the hoi polloi of a problem. Time for more malt liquors.

I like turkey pot pies, they are delicious.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

I thought there was going to be a section where CNN asks candidates their opinion of various Palin emails.
Fist of Etiquette 15 years ago

Gibbs is right now trying his best to shine the turd that is Obama, but CNN isn't letting him use his Blame Bush polish.
shrike 15 years ago

I'm happy the SPYder is up 90% under Obama after an ass-whipping under Dumbya.

But hey, call me a crazy capitalist!
1. yonemoto 15 years ago
  
  you better go to cash, dumbass.
. 15 years ago

Not one damned question about the drug war or the militarization of the police. Nothing about government drug policy. Nothing. Do these guys even live in the US?
1. Matt 15 years ago
  
  I'm just glad they brought it up at the last debate at all. I'll say this for Fox News -- they're not afraid to get the candidates a little more fired up and stir some controversy with their questions. In fact their questions are more confrontational, and I think that was positive.
  1. Thorbie 15 years ago
    
    Don't forget the part about actually including the candidates. I think Fox must have had Gary Johnson on at least 4-5 times since it was known he would be excluded from the CNN debate, including being on Stossel for an entire hour with a rundown on his platform that was more clear and fruitful than anything from this debate.
A Serious Man 15 years ago

Pretty tame I must say. I guess they yieled to the Gipper's 11th Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.
mike 15 years ago

Granted, there were differences but didn't this seem like the Ron Paul show? The answers were almost always in the same court..at times it felt like they were trying to out RP each other.
Wind Rider 15 years ago

. . .and with that, the clowns piled back into the car, and weaved off into the sunset. . .
Joe M. 15 years ago

I told you the media would be all over Romney and Bachmann as "the story".
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