Federal Park Police Under Investigation for Choking, Body Slamming Dancer at Jefferson Memorial

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Federal Park Police hassled, tackled and arrested five people on Saturday for dancing at the Thomas Jefferson Memorial in Washington, D.C. The group, led by Iraq War veteran and TV host Adam Kokesh, was protesting a May 17 ruling in a case that dates back to April 2008, when a group of young libertarians organized by the now kaput Bureaucrash decided to rendezvous at the memorial for a silent celebration of TJ's birthday. Here's the Spectator's writeup of the 2008 event:

So as not to disturb any fellow memorial visitors, the group—which numbered about 20, fewer than the 25 that would require a permit—opted to wear headphones and listen to their own iPods. As it turned out, the half-dozen or so unrelated onlookers who happened to be on-hand (the park is open 24 hours) appeared mostly amused by the spectacle.

SECURITY PERSONNEL MOST assuredly were not amused. Within two minutes of the event's start, they began moving to disperse the crowd, ordering the dancers to leave immediately, forcibly laying their hands on some and hurling profanities at others.

A few party-goers attempted to explain the nature of the event, but memorial staff were in no mood to discuss political theory. At 11:59, just four minutes after the event's start, U.S. Park Police had detained and were handcuffing the aforementioned "Jefferson 1"—28-year-old occasional Spectator contributor Brooke Oberwetter—ostensibly for unauthorized dancing.

Or, as former Bureaucrash chief Jason Talley puts it, "One minute I'm taking video of people celebrating the freedoms etched in the walls surrounding us, the next we see armed agents of the state putting chains on a friend of ours."

On May 17, 2011, the D.C. Circuit "affirmed there is no constitutional right to dance at the Jefferson Memorial," so this weekend, Kokesh et al. decided to go dancing. They announced the plan on Facebook, and showed up at the memorial on Saturday in broad daylight. This is what happened:

According to the AP, the cops in question are now under investigation for their rough behavior:

The U.S. Park Police is investigating whether its officers were too aggressive in arresting five demonstrators who were dancing in protest over the weekend at the Jefferson Memorial. Videos posted online show the officers forcefully arresting the protesters Saturday afternoon. One officer is seen with his hands around a protester's throat, and a demonstrator is also shown being slammed to the ground.

As Radley Balko reported in 2008, Park Police weren't especially kind the first time around, either. When asked what Oberwetter (a past Reason contributor who now works for Facebook) was being charged with, the arresting officer told the other dancers to "shut the fuck up." 

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250 responses to “Federal Park Police Under Investigation for Choking, Body Slamming Dancer at Jefferson Memorial

  1. the arresting officer told the other dancers to “shut the fuck up.”

    That’s New Professionalese for “you have the right to remain silent.”

    1. They attempt to cuff me without telling me what I’m being charged with, they might as well get the tazers out ahead of time.

        1. I mean, I’m only trying to be true to first principles. I would hate to increase the national debt by being the cause of a WComp claim for one of the jackbooted motherfuckers.

          Safety first. Just take me down from a distance, boys.

          1. You can make this easier on everyone if you will take a moment to provide your real name, a recent photograph of yourself and the details of your Washington, D.C. itinerary. Thank you.

            1. I’m not sure when I’ll be in DC next, but here’s my personal data.

          2. That’s treason, man.

        2. you are noted as a noter. this will be remembered you collaborator.

    2. Agents of the State ordering STFU: What a tribute to TJ.

  2. You cannot allow people to dance around on those steps. They might get hurt.

    1. Ya know, if ya dance around here, ya just might get hoit. I’m just sayin’, z’all. I woodn’t want anything should happen to yuz…

    2. After seeing their dancing, I had the same reaction as the Fuzz.
      They must be stopped for their own dignity even if it kills them.

      Get with the times, guys, force is cool, right?
      /sarcasm

    3. Maybe there should be some sort of government-approved “Safety Dance?”

    4. Why not find out the facts before commenting? Dancing on the steps is perfectly legal. The interior of the rotunda is the only place in the whole complex where you’re not allowed to sing, dance, scream, whistle, juggle, etc. Not an unusual “restriction” in a memorial.

  3. I could swear I heard “you will respect my ah-thor-ah-tai!” but no matter how many times I replay it I can’t find the exact moment…

    1. Its implied in the “STOP RESISTING!!1!!!!” comment he yells as a justification to pull out his nightstick and begin bludgeoning anything within 20 yards vicously and repeatedly.

    2. The Gestapo-douche said it in Morse Code, with his nightstick.

  4. D.C. Circuit “affirmed there is no constitutional right to dance at the Jefferson Memorial,”

    And, as we all know, ALL RIGHTS ARE GRANTED BY THE STATE.

    1. This is exactly the problem with the meme of “constitutional rights”: it implies that those are the only rights one cannot have taken away, which is complete BS.

    2. I thought you Libertarians believed rights were “natural” as handed down on golden tablets from the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

      1. I prefer the deserted island test. If one is alone on a desert island, can anything be said? Yes, even FIRE! at the top of the lungs. If you’re fortunate enough to have a weapon on a desert island, would you be able to carry it in any manner you choose? Absolutely. And if you’re on a desert island, with someone else, and they try and break into you lean-to shelter, do you have the right to whack them over the head to keep them from poking you with a really sharp stick and stop them from stealing the fish it took you all day to catch? Damn skippy.

        That’s because you have these rights, naturally, inherently, not because someone said Simon Says.

        1. What about the right to join other people on the island and use threat of violence to force others to give you fish?

          Together we can do what an individual alone cannot do: violate the natural rights of individuals.

          That is the appeal of collectivism.

          It gives you the power to do things that would otherwise be considered criminal.

        2. And if you’re on a desert island with a woman and you’re naturally stronger than her… hmmm… I’m not sure I like where this is going.

          1. Point noted, kids – well, I guess that I left off the part that’s like Mal said “if someone tries to kill ya, you try and kill ’em right back!”

            The only limiting factor in such a situation is the natural rights of other individuals on the island with you.

            And yeah, if it’s a girl with ya, just play it cool. After enough time, and maybe with some fermented coconut juice, there’s gonna be some horizontal mambo. Just keep in mind it works the other way if your buff and she’s a buttaface. Just sayin.

      2. Patricia, what the Hell do you think you are if the first point of reference in your life doesn’t begin with what does and does not violate you as a person? Maybe the word ‘right’ throws you off. Substitute natural condition for natural right and perhaps you’ll get a better grasp of what we mean. There is nothing metaphysical about it as you mistakenly imply.

      3. Don’t be silly. Everyone knows that these commandments were handed down on sheets of lasagna.

    3. Congress shall make no law … or prohibiting … the right of the people peaceably to assemble…
      versus
      They began moving to disperse the crowd, ordering the dancers to leave immediately…

    4. I don’t see any such right in my copy of the Constitution. It doesn’t even mention the Jefferson Memorial at all, in fact.

      Aren’t you supposed to be a literalist?

      1. If he’s anything like me, he’s a constitutional libertarian – anything and everything not delegated specifically to government is left to the people, including dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, or even pulling your dick out and spinning it at the statue of Abe Lincoln. Go away.

        1. Come on. If your dick were long enough to do that, you wouldn’t be playing sandbox Robespierre.

        2. …or even pulling your dick out and spinning it at the statue of Abe Lincoln.

          No! He’d *like* that! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTN6Du3MCgI

      2. Ninth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:

        The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

        Just in case reading comprehension isn’t your strength, allow me to clarify. Simply because the Constitution lists a number of rights specifically held by the people that cannot be violated by law does not mean that the list was intended to be exhaustive or complete. The ninth was considered an essential amendment in order to clarify that all rights not expressly forbidden from governmental interference in the prior eight amendments were still presumed to be retained by the people. Now, obviously, the situation here certainly involves peaceable assembly, but just in case some douche with a badge decides that dancing constitutes something above and beyond peaceable assembly (or freedom of speech/expression or that matter), the ninth should serve as sufficient evidence that dancing is one of those rights retained by the people.

        1. Now Sudden be gentle…you know Hobie is slow.

          1. Except for the “Hokie-Pokie”.

      3. I doubt your copy of the Constitution describes a right to post on Hit & Run, yet you persist.

  5. I’m spinning so fast I could power Times Square at midnight!

    1. Are you shitting me, Mr. Jefferson? You’re fucking distorting SPACE-TIME. Q is proud!

  6. These officers will be disciplined commended by their superiors.

  7. The U.S. Park Police is investigating whether its officers were too aggressive in arresting five demonstrators who were dancing in protest over the weekend at the Jefferson Memorial.

    “We have completed our investigation, and the officers involved followed proper procedures.”

  8. Use jury nullification to protect those who resist the agents of tyranny, including those who use force against the police.

    1. I would love to see jury nullification make a reemergance. Sadly, though, 11 of 12 people randomly selected are likely to be bootlickers.

      1. Or have never heard of the term, since those running our judicial process have done their utmost to make sure as few knew about it as possible, or that it was an option for them to exercise.

        1. I would think a defendant would be allowed to present it in the course of making his defense.

          1. I have to laugh every time I see a lawyer on TV arguing nullification to a jury. Lawyers are just not allowed to do that. Any prosectuor will immediately object on the grounds of relevance and the judge will cut you off at the knees.

            1. The way they should do it is just to yell “Jury nullification, look it up!”

            2. There is a bill before the NH Senate today..(It passed the NH House) that would allow defense lawyers to mention Jury Nullification…..

            3. Jury nullification can be presented to the jury in the closing argument as at that point there is no right to object.

          2. One would think so, sudden, but in the very pages of Reason there are examples where the game is rigged specifically so that does not happen.

            Link? Do I LOOK like your fucking research lackey?

        2. Is it legal?
          Seriously, couldn’t a judge lock you up for contempt or something if you tried nullification?

          1. Isn’t kinda like open carry, in that it is technically legal but if you try it they’ll come up with an excuse to put you in jail?

        3. Or they would never make past the jury selection process. And if someone slips through, the judge may simply remove them mid-trial for suspected wrongthink.

      2. It must suck for you, knowing that almost 92% of your fellow Americans are scum.

        1. Yes. Yes, it does.

          1. Wow. 92%. Depressing as fuck.

            1. “Sudden” has no reason to live.

              1. Maybe he’ll finding meaning in an internet discussion board where he can make snippy and irrelevant comments. Do you have a pamphlet you could send him?

    2. Haven’t you heard? Jury nullification is TEH RACISM!!1! It’s just as bad as saying the federal government is one of limited powers.

  9. On May 17, 2011, the D.C. Circuit “affirmed there is no constitutional right to dance at the Jefferson Memorial,”

    I would love…love, I say….to read the logic they used to determine the above statement.

    1. Summary: “Commerce…general welfare…Supremacy….DO WHAT WE FUCKING SAY.”

      1. That’s far too complex.

        My bet:

        “Commerce cl…. GET ON YOUR KNEES AND SUCK”

        1. “Cuz I’m bigger ‘n you.”
          AKA Eminent Domain, BTW.

    2. Paraphrasing……..TJ’s place is a “temple……..a place of contemplation and reverence……”

      How that is not “establishing a religion” I have no idea.

    3. Can you read? It took me less than 5 minutes to find this on Google:
      http://federalevidence.com/pdf…..lliard.pdf

      But then, I really wanted to know. So … gonna read it??

    4. Here’s the court’s ruling, which explains it quite sensibly:
      http://federalevidence.com/pdf…..lliard.pdf

    5. They won’t let me post the link, but if you google “No. 10-5078
      MARY BROOKE OBERWETTER,
      APPELLANT
      v.
      KENNETH HILLIARD”

      You’ll get the court’s ruling. It’s quite intelligent and lays out the situation quite clearly, unlike the deceptive liars who have stirred up this ridiculous controversy.

      1. There is a huge difference between a non-public forum like a military base and a national monument. The monument is open to the public – I mean it is literally open to the outdoors – and there is nothing about silently dancing that is incompatible with the intended use of the facility, which is to honor TJ. The fact that a statue of TJ makes some people want to dance and others want to bow their heads shouldn’t make one kind of response legitimate and the other illegal. Should people be arrested if they don’t take their hats off at a monument? What if someone is offended that they didn’t?

        One of my favorite parts is where the court notes that, “the interior space of national memorials has not traditionally “been used for purposes of assembly, communicating thoughts between citizens, and discussing public questions.”” Yeah, the last thing we need is to have people communicating and thinking. The funny thing is that TJ would probably have joined the dancers in protest of the cops.

      2. Also, if the standard for illegality is simply having the intent, effect or propensity to draw a crowd of onlookers, then is Obama prohibited from visiting? His presence anywhere communicates a message, and he would likely draw a crowd. What about a pretty Hollywood starlet in a low-cut top? She probably intends to draw a crowd of onlookers wherever she goes too. Should she be banned from such national monuments? That is the problem with arbitrary and reactionary rules on speech – they place a ton of discretion in the hands of the police, who are not as likely as judges to appreciate the nuances of 1st Amendment law.

    6. Would love, LOVE, it so much… that you would not be willing to do even some basic research of public, online, and readily available records to find out what the facts or the ruling actually was.

      But there’s always time to post a comment on yer favorite site.

    7. Are we permitted to tap our toes and shuffle a little?

  10. Dancing is not speech.

    1. Speech is not speech.

      1. As long as it isn’t ballet, the Emperor is cool with it.

      2. @ Brooks:

        Only nested speech is protected speech.

    2. Surely it’s at least peaceable assembly? Unless, of course, they were daring to dance the forbidden dance, risking innocent bystanders by unleashing la pasi?n peligrosa de la Lambada!

    3. Dancing is not speech.

      Dancing is behavior.

      Speech, behavior…whatever.

    4. Actually, there is some case law establishing that it is speech, if the clothing is removed first.

    5. So if I jump around with both my middle fingers pointed up in your direction guess I’m not saying anything.

  11. Watch this video from two weeks earlier: the SAME cop roughed up the SAME guy after he tried to ask Eric Holder some questions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bDxnpNj6UU

  12. unauthorized dancing

    Did they beat the shit out of Kevin Bacon too?

    1. UNAUTHORIZED DANCING…OH GOD, THE HUMANITY!!!!

    2. No, but they should have.

    3. Which raises the question – how many degrees of separation from KB are the dancers?

      Oddly, I’m only two degrees of separation from Adolph Hitler.

      1. Wind Rider

        OK, I’ll play. Hmm, you farted in Germany, and the wind blew the smell over zombie Hitler?

    4. The “Safety dance” didn’t seem to be too safe for him.

  13. What more appropriate a place to celebrate the few freedoms we have left than at Thomas Jefferson’s memorial? I really try to be civil, but I hope Tommy J. rises from his grave and kicks these guards asses.

    1. The same Tommy J. who held slaves?

      1. He didn’t just hold Sally, although she probably wishes he was bigger on afterglow.

        1. Anyway, it’s right in the Declaration of Independence, which everyone knows is the law of the land: Life, liberty and the pursuit of dancing.

      2. OMG, Jefferson had slaves? I feel so disillusioned. No more freedom for anyone, ever.

        1. Your handle fits you perfectly.

          1. That’s hilarious! Did you think that up all by yourself?!?

            1. Yeah, holding slaves, and being racist at a time when everybody was racist, completely invalidates everything Thomas Jefferson believed in and did. No point in arguing with these dipweeds.

              1. Who’s arguing? That was truly funny! I guess you just don’t see the humor. See… “mr. simple” said something that “.” disagreed with and in a total pwnage move, “.” made fun of “mr. simple”s handle, because “simple” can mean easy or uncomplicated, but it can ALSO mean “undereducated” or “mentally deficient.” See the joke now, RPA? See it now? IT’S HILARIOUS!

                1. Jeffy, you should have freed them in your will. I let my housekeeper go too

                2. I, too, wish we could go back to a time when a vastly larger percentage of the population was oppressed.

                3. Replied to the wrong person. Sorry.

              2. Res Publica Americana,
                and being racist at a time when everybody was racist

                citation

                1. Virtually everyone considered blacks to be inferior to whites until quite recently. Abraham Lincoln is a prominent example.

                  1. Why You are wrong:

                    1828: New York State abolishes slavery.
                    1829: David Walker’s Appeal.
                    1831: William Lloyd Garrison publishes The Liberator.
                    Nat Turner Slave Rebellion.
                    1833: American Anti-slavery Society formed.
                    1837: Abolitionist Elijah Lovejoy is murdered.
                    1838: Frederick Douglass escapes slavery and becomes active in the abolitionist cause.
                    1840: Formation of the Liberty Party which ran presidential candidates in 1840 and 1844
                    1844: John Quincy Adams finally wins repeal of the Gag Rule in Congress.
                    1846: Wilmot Proviso, prohibiting slavery in any territory taken from Mexico, is passed
                    in the House, but defeated in the Senate.
                    1847: Frederick Douglass begins publication of the North Star.
                    1848: Mexican Cession of western territory to the United States; North and South
                    resume struggle over the status of slavery in federal territory.
                    1850: Compromise of 1850; passage of Fugitive Slave Act.
                    1852: Abolitionist Harriet Beecher Stowe publishes Uncle Tom’s Cabin.
                    1854: Passage of Kansas-Nebraska Act which determines the status of slavery in these
                    two territories according to the principle of “popular sovereignty.”
                    “Bleeding Kansas.”
                    Formation of the Republican Party.
                    1857: Dred Scott Court Decision which stated that the Missouri Compromise was
                    unconstitutional, and that slaves were not citizens but the property of their owners
                    1858: Lincoln-Douglas Debates.
                    1859: Abolitionist John Brown’s raid at the federal arsenal inHarper’s Ferry, Virginia.
                    1860: Presidential election of Republican Party candidate, Abraham Lincoln, and the
                    start of southern secession.
                    1861: The beginning of the Civil War.
                    1863: Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation.
                    1865: Thirteenth Amendment is added to the Constitution, which abolishes slavery.

                    Abraham Lincoln was in office
                    March 4, 1861 ? April 15, 1865

                  2. Abraham Lincoln in office March 4, 1847 ? March 3, 1849

                    The history preceeds him:

                    1828: New York State abolishes slavery.

                    1829: David Walker’s Appeal.

                    1831: William Lloyd Garrison publishes The Liberator.

                    Nat Turner Slave Rebellion.

                    1833: American Anti-slavery Society formed.

                    1837: Abolitionist Elijah Lovejoy is murdered.

                    1838: Frederick Douglass escapes slavery and becomes active in the abolitionist cause.

                    1840: Formation of the Liberty Party which ran presidential candidates in 1840 and 1844

                    1844: John Quincy Adams finally wins repeal of the Gag Rule in Congress.

                    1846: Wilmot Proviso, prohibiting slavery in any territory taken from Mexico, is passed

                    in the House, but defeated in the Senate.

                    1847: Frederick Douglass begins publication of the North Star.

                    1848: Mexican Cession of western territory to the United States; North and South

                    resume struggle over the status of slavery in federal territory.

                    1850: Compromise of 1850; passage of Fugitive Slave Act.

                    1852: Abolitionist Harriet Beecher Stowe publishes Uncle Tom’s Cabin.

                    1854: Passage of Kansas-Nebraska Act which determines the status of slavery in these

                    two territories according to the principle of “popular sovereignty.”

                    “Bleeding Kansas.”

                    Formation of the Republican Party.

                    1857: Dred Scott Court Decision which stated that the Missouri Compromise was

                    unconstitutional, and that slaves were not citizens but the property of their owners

                    1858: Lincoln-Douglas Debates.

                    1859: Abolitionist John Brown’s raid at the federal arsenal inHarper’s Ferry, Virginia.

                    1860: Presidential election of Republican Party candidate, Abraham Lincoln, and the

                    start of southern secession.

                    1861: The beginning of the Civil War.

                    1863: Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation.

                    1865: Thirteenth Amendment is added to the Constitution, which abolishes slavery.

  14. I don’t see any such right in my copy of the Constitution.

    I’m surprised you can see anything at all except yesterday’s lunch, what with your head so far up your ass.

  15. Some of you guys probably know by now that I’m pretty passionate about my principles, and hyperbole on my part isn’t rare. But if I were them, I’d bring a high-grade tranquilizer pistol with me and knock those federales out with it, then continue dancing.

    At that moment, one of the team of friends I’d bring with me would pull out his portable tattoo machine, and ink huge penises and pictures of a burning Constitution on their backs, stomachs, and foreheads.

    I’d record it all, post it on YouTube, and wait to be arrested. It would be worth it.

    1. No you wouldn’t.

      1. I meant if I could get away with it after the arrest somehow. But you knew that already.

      2. If I’d been there, I would’ve dropped my pants and let the good officer insert his nightstick into my rectal cavity. Because I’m a good citizen. And I’d enjoy it.

        1. No you wouldn’t.

          1. Why am I replying to myself?

            1. *arm twisted by bully to punch his own face*

              Stop replying to yourself! Stop replying to yourself!

  16. Ya know, these guys are federal employees, so it would take an act of Zod to get them fired. Transferring them involuntarily to be game wardens on a small island at the end of the Aleutians? Just a couple of forms. And I’d be all for that. Let’s see spiffy boy in the shorts and bike helmet do that with a Kodiak Bear.

  17. What does TEAM RED think about this?

    Bingo. and these folks have reverence for NOTHING.

    Medea Benjamin/Code Pink/Adam Kokesh/IVAW=shit.

    The Herd would ruin ’em at the Tomb of the Unknowns.
    I’d pay to see that.

    ’03

    eta: I wonder who goes their bail? Soros? Franken? Kerry? Sanders? help me out here…

    I can’t believe someone finally figured out that this was all a sinister plot by Senator Kerry.

    1. As a registered Republican, I have to say… That’s not my TEAM RED. Granted, I don’t frequent blogs like ar15.com, but I’d be willing to be sentiments like that are few and far between for the average right-winger.

      1. be sentiments like that are few and far between for the average right-winger.

        I’m glad to see you don’t agree with the post. But, if this is your idea of “few and far between,” you’ve never been to Free Republic.

    2. That’s pretty funny. Anyone who does not show proper deference to authoritah must be in the employ of some sinister leftist conspiracy.

    3. The Red sites I scanned figured out that it was sponsored by Code Pink, since the older lady who was arrested looks like/is an activist with CP.

      1. Yeah, that’s Medea Benjamin.

    4. The forums for a website titled “ar15.com” is full of “Internet tough guys”? I am shocked!

      1. Tuffgais? No, not there.

        Hahaha that one bike cop looked like the guy from King of Queens.

        Fuck, I would never make it as a cop, I would have started beating those pillowbiting faggots til Tom was ankle deep in AIDS infected blood and chunky bits.

        Liked the little slut outfits though. I fucking love DC in the summer; Sodom on the Potomac!

    5. Sites like that almost make me embarrassed to be a gun fag.

    6. I suppose it doesn’t matter to them that Kokesh is a military combat veteran and decidedly NOT a progressive liberal concerntroll team bluer.

    7. Don’t laugh. I saw the guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier loudly scold a pre-teen girl for sitting down during the changing of the guard. Definitely a no-dance area.

  18. @0:40

    Officer Friendly with the bodyslam takedown on a guy who is…doing the funky chicken followed by the robot?

  19. It’s funny to see dancing inside the Jefferson Memorial become the new Woolworth’s Lunch Counter.

    1. You have no idea how insulting that idiotic remark is. You couldn’t have written it if you’d bothered to think about it at all.

      1. And you have no idea the stark similarities.

  20. For maximum cognitive dissonance, next time we need a gay dance troupe square dancing.

    TEAM RED: Arrested for square dancing? That’s not right!

    TEAM BLUE: They arrested a gay dance troupe! Homophobes!

    TEAM RED: You got gaiety in my traditional values!

    TEAM BLUE: You got traditional values in my queer outrage!

  21. Not sure if someone’s posted this vid here, but this is some nice police involvement.
    Featuring multiple rounds of tazing, a knee drop, and a unfortunate (in more than one respect) man who refuses to put his wizard robe on
    kinda NSFW
    http://tosh.comedycentral.com/…..ed-wizard/

    1. the comments are almost as funny as the video

    2. Up until the kneedrop, they were fairly restrained. Especially considering he was patting the one cop on the back numerous times. Most would have called that “assaulting an officer” and shot him.

      1. yeah i dont have a feeling one way or another besides the knee drop. I just think its hilarious.

        1. I missed all the action looking for his penis. Did the poor boy have a Brisk accident?

          1. Thats the best part of the movie. Everyone who watches it will feel hung like a clydesdale.
            Except maybe the asians that watch in which case they’ll just be happy they aren’t alone

            1. Doc S., I bow to your expertise on Asian dick

            2. Doc S., I bow to your expertise on Asian dick

    3. When are the 60+ people standing around watching things like this happen going to collectively come to the defense of their fellow citizens against abusive excessive assholes like these “officers?” It would probably just make things worse in the long run, but just once I’d like to see these guys beaten to a pulp by a crowd of people sick and tired of taser happy cops. Who are these people protecting? In both cases?

  22. Why don’t folks start doing this once a week – 24 or less people – various groups – lefties, libertarians, teapartiers, etc.?

  23. WHEN THE POLICE ARE LOSING THE SUPPORT OF WHITE, MIDDLE CLASS GUN OWNERS NOMINALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOP, THE GAME IS TRULY UP.

    THAT IS ALL.

  24. Let’s all celebrate the “Arab spring” while our own jack booted thugs beat us up for dancing. Does anyone hear doubt for a minute that anything equivalent to the “Arab spring” here would be met with violence that makes the worst of the Arab oppression look like nothing? Do you doubt for a minute that the National Guard would be shooting protesters at any spontaneous demonstration in DC???

    1. I doubt for a minute, at least.

    2. I hear doubt

    3. It seems as if the means for anything like the Arab Spring, short of full on spontaneous dissent, has been silently stifled under regulations, permits and brainwashed fools willing to believe the lies of their employers. And no, I don’t doubt for a minute that the government wouldn’t hesitate to wage war against the only people with the power to stop it. Two words, Kent State.

  25. Props to the guy with the “Disobey” tee-shirt.

    Personally, I like the more pithy, “I aim to misbehave” line from Firefly.

    1. I’m sad to say that I’m an unproud owner/wearer of this.

  26. I wonder what would have happened if guns were allowed there and all the protesters were armed. Pussy bitch thugs wouldn’t have done shit.

    1. Or they would have called in SWAT and shot everyone in the vicinity – just to be safe.

  27. If they don’t like 20 people dancing there, what would happen if 20,000 showed up?

    1. They’d deploy the National Guard to “quell the insurrection”.

    2. Then it would be a Million Man Dance.

      1. No, I was being serious. They’d probably deploy military units to suppress it.

        1. Not if there are minorities involved!
          And thusly did the brilliant plan unfold…

      2. Funny! My mind was headed toward Arlo Guthrie and Alice’s Restaurant instead.

        1. And I said “Obie, I don’t think I can pick up the garbage with these handcuffs on.”

          1. Kid, what’d ja get?

  28. a good, well trained police officer is supposed to handle something like this without escalating the situation

    1. From what I’ve seen of the last 15 years, decent police officers are a minority. I value my life and my property, but by God, if a cop ever roughs me up like that, I’ll shoot the fucker.

    2. Define “escalate.”

      1. Being a total fucking prick, an authoritarian son of a ripped-asshole whore, piece of horse shit power-abusing, ball-gobbling, cock-sucking mother-fucker.

        1. I accept this definition.

      2. Create a larger spectacle than was already there? Use more violence than the situation warrants?

        1. They’ll have to nuke the site from orbit. It’ll be the only way to be sure.

          1. Nuke DC? Hmmm. That might solve some problems, though I think they should get the tourists out first.

            1. “though I think they should get the tourists out first.”

              They’re getting the full D.C. experience.

    3. Yeah, you can tell the “good, well-trained police officers” because they’re the ones who ride up on their unicorns.

    4. A good, well trained police officer wouldn’t need to “handle” it it all.

      Assuming you mean “good” in a way that carries some moral connotation with it.

    5. a good, well trained police officer is supposed to handle something like this

      I would hope that a good, well-trained police officer would recognize that a handful of people dancing in a public space warrants no “handling” at all.

    6. Seems like he de-escalated the guy onto the pavement.

  29. I think you’re all missing the effect this has on the other people visiting the memorial. For most folks, it’s a big trip, a family vacation perhaps, to see these iconic sights. Now imagine you’re there milling around in the Jefferson Memorial and you see a guy in a baseball cap slow dancing with his girl. Wouldn’t that just ruin the experience for you ? Much better to have the officers bring the violence. That’s a vaction memory you’ll keep forever.

    1. I don’t give a flying fuck about what somebody else thinks about it. It’s public land, and I can do whatever the fuck I want on it. It belongs to me and to you, not to the state. And it wouldn’t bother me a single bit.

      1. Apparently you don’t give a flying fuck about me either.

        1. 1) If it was a joke, I missed it in all the hormone-induced ranting. Sorry.

          2) I wasn’t being hostile at all – I swear frequently. 🙂

          1. If your hormones are so stirred up you missed the joke, then you should go “fire up the Webber” or whatever you kids are calling it these days.

          2. Punchline:
            “Much better to have the officers bring the violence. That’s a vaction memory you’ll keep forever.”

            Tharr she blows.

  30. Nude dancing may be subject businesses to reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions” to alleviate the alleged spillover effects of a nudie bar. See City of Renton v. Playtime Theatres, Inc., 475 U.S. 41, 48-50, 106 S.Ct. 925, 89 L.Ed.2d 29 (1986); Young v. American Mini Theatres, Inc., 427 U.S. 50, 62-63, 96 S.Ct. 2440, 49 L.Ed.2d 310 (1976). Still trying to figure out how a ban on dancing at the Jefferson Memorial by a small group of people is at all reasonable. Somebody more adept at twitter than me needs to set up a flash mob to go dancing, and exercise our first amendment rights. Second amendment rights to open carry should be considered as well.

    It is just one step from that to So what we have here is a zoning issue.

    1. #sy2822 @ ASmitty1775 omg flash bomb @ jdub’s lap 12:30 lol

  31. It would be interesting to see what kind of things are also prohibited at the memorial. Walking really slowly?
    Standing on your head? Sitting on the ground? Crawling on all fours? Walking backwards? Walking like an Egyptian? Which things will get you arrested at the Jefferson memorial?

    1. I think they made it pretty clear that the dancing isn’t a problem, it’s the message. No demonstrations of any sort allowed.

      Duck-walk the memorial for fun and you’re probably OK. Duck-walk for Jesus or squat-thrust for a free Tibet and they’ll crack you in the head with a nightstick.

      1. Apparently frog-marching is permitted.

    2. According to the regulations, in certain areas like the interior of the Memorial, it is not permitted to do anything intended to attract attention. Screaming, yodeling, taking off your clothes, singing, whatever. However, you can step just outside the pillars and do all those things. The only thing that is allowed to happen inside the rotunda is an annual ceremony run by the Park Service to commemorate Jefferson’s birthday. Doesn’t matter if you are the American Legion or the Yippies. The interior of the rotunda is a place for quiet contemplation of Jefferson’s legacy, not for a group of posers to show off for the tourists and make entrapment videos to misrepresent on YouTube.

      1. Yeah!! They tewtally deserved that beatdown for not quietly contemplating Jefferson’s contributions to freedom! It’s not like like writing a ticket was even an option when there’s a good ol’ fashioned hippie ass-whoopin’ to be doled out!

      2. According to the “regulations”. Does this mean you find it totally acceptable to see police officer arresting and beating kids in front of your family? ‘Teh Lawl is Teh Lawl’ is fucking gay.

      3. According to the “regulations”. Does this mean you find it totally acceptable to see police officer arresting and beating kids in front of your family? ‘Teh Lawl is Teh Lawl’ is fucking gay.

  32. The choke hold is a form of protected speech. But only when used by a government employee on a civilian.

    1. I agree. Because it sends a very content-laden message to hoi polloi.

      1. Ooo — he didn’t say “THE” hoi polloi. Must be one of them thar literal arts gradu-ates. Now let’s ast him if it’s pies or cornbreads what are square!

        1. Square cornbread? Are you mad?

          Anyway, wrong. Finance.

        2. Square? Everybody knows that Pi r round.

  33. What. The. Fuck?

    Is there some reason for this?

    1. Yes. Thomas Jefferson hated dancing.

      1. I’m not a huge fan, but you ought to see me after three double Dewers.

    2. Or is this along the lines of Baptists not fucking standing up because it might lead to dancing?

      1. When did the Baptist Taliban take over?

    3. The dancing or the jackboots with ghey bike helmets and shorts?

  34. Is that the MHD guy w/ the sunglasses doing the robot as he’s lifted up?

  35. The cops would have left Techno Viking alone. Let’s get Techno Viking over to the JM and let him cut a rug.

    1. That’s for damned sure. Nobody messes with the Techno Viking.

      1. The beauty of this is that the identity of the Techno Viking has never been confirmed. If he were an American, he’d have been on Oprah by now.

        1. He’s obviously back in Valhalla polishing up the hammer.

          1. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Techno Viking cult.

        2. If he were an American, he’d have been on Oprah by now.

          It’s worse than that. He’d have been wrung out on half a dozen reality shows until everyone was sick of him.

          1. I don’t that’s possible.

            1. Imagine Techno Viking, after tv producers got hold of him, with a Jersey Shore haircut.

              1. Do you really think he’d listen to some loser producers? Watch the video, the only evidence in existence of how the Techno Viking behaves. No, he’s beyond such things.

                1. Sorry Pro, but Techno Viking is abused yearly by Techno Packer and Techno Bear. Even Techno Lion gives him fits.

                  1. Don’t be absurd.

  36. Nice suplex! Was that one of the Steiner Brothers? I was hoping he would finish him with a Steiner Recliner.

  37. Cops beating up dancing hippies.
    That’s entertainment.

    1. Make this a reality show. So You Think You Can Dance at the Jefferson Memorial?

      Someone will tune in to watch.

      1. I would, but I prefer a good tasing to fisticuffs. iPod-wearing hippies dropping like fainting goats would be hilarious. And educational.

  38. OT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NgMolL1gR8

    Watch that Limey shithead’s reaction to his accent, and the libertard crowd’s, too!

    1. Sharon Osbourne ought to be used by now to people who talk funny.

  39. What a weird government we have. They’re afraid of dancing.

  40. This was a setup by video entrapment loonies — a left-wing version of the little cryptofascists who have been making ambush videos for the rightwing. The interior of the Memorial is maintained as a quiet area. You can demonstrate, sing, whatever, all around the Memorial, just not right inside the rotunda. The court (rightly) held in the original case that public buildings aren’t necessarily public forums — for instance, you can’t unpack your guitar and sing in the middle of a library. As long as there are meaningful rules fairly and evenly enforced, there’s no “discrimination” involved. Oh, and the court also dismissed Oberwetter’s claim of brutality. This is a set up by a bunch of poseurs. It has nothing to do with “freedom of speech” and a lot to do with “oh, look at me! I’m relevant! I’m socially conscious! I’m six years old!”

    1. TJ you are correct. I visited Washington twice in as many months and I am appaled at the disrespect people have at the monuments. Monuments are places to memorialize those we have lost. They are not for you kids to run and scream at each other or a place to go to to dance and grope your hoeish fiancee

    2. “This was a setup by video entrapment loonie..”

      Yeah cuz clearly, the only option the cops had was to body slam the people. What. A. Statist. Fuck.

    3. Every time I, against my better judgement, read something you somehow manage to type, this is what I see.

    4. Entrapment is when you encourage someone to do something that they would not otherwise have been likely to do. In this case, the point of the demonstration was to illustrate the tendency of the authorities to overreact to a non-threatening situation with force. In response, the authorities reacted to a non-threatening situation with force. It is not entrapment if they were simply given an opportunity to act out their natural tendencies.

  41. Bike shorts? Are you fucking serious? You Americans have no sense of style.

  42. I visited the Jefferson Memorial as a tourist from another country. Prior to my arrival at the memorial, I had done some grocery shopping and had 2 plastic bags of pop, veggies, etc. I was told that I could not visit the park because I had food. I wasn’t eating the food – I was carrying it in shopping bags! Sorry, but I’m not coming back to your country.

    1. Concern troll is concerned.

    2. should have put the vegetables on top, covering the pop, then just left the bags by the gate. No American is gonna steal a bag of vegetables.

      1. “. No American is gonna steal a bag of vegetables.”

        HAAAAAAAAHAHA. God, you’re one naive motherfucker.

  43. It looks to me that those numbuts expressing themselves did so specifically to evoke a hostile situation so they got what they came looking for. And, they have their youtube video they can treasure forever.

    1. Really? So dancing in public is a hostile act (??) punishable by violent confrontation?

      You scare the hell out of me.

  44. Cops = Unionized Government workers who get overpaid and who are going to enjoy a fat pension.

    Americans have forgotten that government workers exist solely at the generosity of American taxpayers.

    1. Generosity at gunpoint.

  45. You’re on public property and put on a show
    You ask the cops “please” but they still say no
    You just want to do some dancing, but it just didn’t work
    The po-lice busted you like you’re some kind of jerk

    CHORUS: You gotta fight for your constitutional right to party

    The fuzz caught you dancing and they said “no way!”
    Those hypocrites, when on leave, still collect all their pay.
    Man, a fascist state is such a drag
    You can’t even buy implants if your breasts start to sag

    CHORUS

    Don’t dance out in public and think cops will ignore y’all
    They’ll charge with their nightsticks into the Jefferson Memorial.
    I asked TJ, “I thought freedom was a gift,”
    But TJ said nothing, just sat there being stiff.

    CHORUS

  46. numbuts expressing themselves

    OMFG teh HORROR

    And “freedom” means exactly what you think it means, and no more. Shouldn’t you be narcing on your neighbors for letting their grass get too long?

  47. The interior of the rotunda is a place for quiet contemplation of Jefferson’s legacy, not for a group of posers to show off for the tourists and make entrapment videos to misrepresent on YouTube.

    If evil agents provocateurs had dressed up as park policemen and staged this assault to “make it appear as if” they had been suppressed, you might have a point.

    Quietly contemplate this.

    .!..

    1. Um … I’ve contemplated it. It still makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. What on earth did you THINK you were saying????

      1. You’re right. Any attempt to celebrate constitutional freedoms warrants violence from the police.

        My bad. In Soviet America Constitution enumerates You!

  48. Somewhere, I just saw a headline proclaiming that Obama was better on civil liberties than Bush. I bet Holder loves the choke hold on that subversive dancer…

  49. I admit: I enjoy watching Bike Cops (and I’m not talking C.H.I.P.s here, I’m talking *Schwinn*) beat up hippies.

    I mean, I think Bike Cops are kinda like, the Police State hippies *want*. They have a low carbon footprint! They say, “Stop resisting!!… dude!” They’re the police state they deserve.

    There’s a definitely a COPS episode yet to be made where instead of brutalizing drunk Ronny-Dobbs like trailer-trash meth heads every nigh, etc., they have a pure ‘Hippies Only’ special-episode. Maybe it could climax with a full on SWAT raid on a Phish-show parking lot.

    That would make some entertaining TV.

  50. No need to investigate. He should be fired, and charged with assault. We have it on video.

  51. “On May 17, 2011, the D.C. Circuit ‘affirmed there is no constitutional right to dance at the Jefferson Memorial,’ so this weekend, Kokesh et al. decided to go dancing.”

    Trolls got countertrolled. U mad?

  52. This “Dancing” is not clearly anything. You cannot dance, or play instruments at these memorials for money. If you are dancing to “Dance” then, although, you think you do not need a permit, you do, because you are carrying on a group activity that is more considered LOITERING. You can “Dance” on the lawn of the White House all you want. At the Memorial it is LOITERING. Nice try.

  53. This is obviously testing what black people have been fighting for decades. Are they considered gang memebers just because they are sitting on a corner for no reason at all. Do they have a right to do that? No, they actually do not, as almost all cities have determined. If a cop car stops on the corner and asks the kids what are they doing, and asks for their license and they refuse they will have a nice night planned for them. They can do that on their friends front yard, but they cannot do that on the corner. The corner is a public place that is made to define streets and walk-ways.

    To think that people want to go to Memorials to loiter and perform an obvious demostration, mey be cute to some, but i prefer if they do that somewhere else, like in a park across the way. Get out of my way punks.

  54. Okay all Libertarians get up and start a riot! Your right to dance at Memorials has been taken away!!! Haven’t you had enough yet?! It’s been 70 years of this GOVERNMENT! Come on!

    Oh, you’re all okay. Okay, what’s in the news today. Let’s go get some coffee and talk about something to write about.

  55. Too many laws, too many people willing to enforce them. From what I can see, the only ones that caused an actual disturbance were the park police. If these people (demonstrators) would have just been left alone, they would have silently done their little dances and that would have been the end of it. But the enforcers of stupid laws have to drive home to any potential dissenters that “We’re bigger, and we make the rules.” And they always seem to have minions willing to beat and harm citizens into submission. And in this case, an Iraq war vet as well.

  56. Welcome to Washington D.C., the capital of Nazi America.

  57. Is Obedwetter the chick saying she would have stopped had they just told her?

    I support every single one of the protesters except that chick. She deserved a cockpunch.

  58. Ah, the howls of protest would come from all corners if this video had been smuggled out of the USSR or China.

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