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Civil Liberties

Oh, Goody--France Is Trying to Civilize the Internet

Matt Welch | 5.25.2011 11:15 AM

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Ars Technica has the details in a story from yesterday:

For some time, French Pres. Nicolas Sarkozy has talked about his dream of a "civilized" Internet, but this dream has long been a nightmare for those who worry that "civilization" is really a code for "regulations favorable to big business and the national security state." To make his vision a reality, Sarkozy helped to create this week's e-G8 meeting currently underway in the Tuileries Gardens next door to the Louvre—and the critics are fuming.

"I was invited to the e-G8 and declined," said author and activist Cory Doctorow recently. "I believe it's a whitewash, an attempt to get people who care about the Internet to lend credibility to regimes that are in all-out war with the free, open 'Net. On the other hand, I now have a dandy handwriting sample from Sarkozy should I ever need to establish a graphological baseline for narcissistic sociopathy." […]

So when Sarkozy took the stage of the e-G8 this morning, suspicions about his true motives were already rampant. And he did little to dispel them. […]

"You have a tremendous responsibility that weighs upon you," he told the assembled luminaries, who included people like Google's Eric Schmidt, and he demanded that Internet companies join national governments to jointly exercise the responsibilities. "The responsibility has to be shared between you and us." […]

A few samples provide the overall flavor:

* "Although technology in and of itself is neutral, and must remain so, the way that Internet is used is not neutral."
* "The universe that you represent is not a parallel universe which is free of rules of law or ethics or of any of the fundamental principles that must govern and do govern the social lives of our democratic states."
* "Don't forget that behind the anonymous Internet user there is a real citizen living in a real society and a real culture and a nation to which he or she belongs, with its laws and its rules."
* Artists "must not be despoiled of the fruit of their talent. That doesn't simply ruin them, but far worse, it enslaves them."
* Governments "wish to enter into dialogue with you so that we can defend one another's interests."
* "[I am] calling for collective responsibility."
* "What I am calling for is for everyone to be reasonable."

Insert Minitel joke here. Link via Kinsey Holley's Twitter feed.

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Matt Welch is an editor at large at Reason.

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  1. Colin   14 years ago

    I guess their first order of business would be removing any and all negative references to Seigneur DSK.

    1. affenkopf   14 years ago

      No, Sarkozy is the person that has most profited from DSK's arrest.

  2. John Thacker   14 years ago

    "I believe it's a whitewash, an attempt to get people who care about the Internet to lend credibility to regimes that are in all-out war with the free, open 'Net."-- Cory Doctorow

    That's funny, I feel the same way about the enthusiasm and advocacy of various Internet advocates, including Cory Doctorow, for Obama, especially during 2008. Also, didn't he already have an Obama handwriting sample?

    1. Michael   14 years ago

      Isn't Doctorow also one of the higher-profile NN advocates? Live by the sword, die by the sword.

      1. John Thacker   14 years ago

        Yes, well, silly people like Doctorow don't realize that when they ask the government to step in and enforce "Neutrality," that the government's idea of neutrality might be different than their own.

        1. JW   14 years ago

          What? Of course, they'll be completely neutral. What else could that word possibly mean?

          You're not suggesting that gummint plays favorites or anything like that, are you?

      2. PS   14 years ago

        Doctorow is against IP laws but otherwise he is a statist fuck. I could barely finish his last book (which I downloaded for free), all the evil corporashuns causing all teh evil by controlling IP.

      3. Paul   14 years ago

        Isn't Doctorow also one of the higher-profile NN advocates? Live by the sword, die by the sword.

        +100

      4. Somalian Road Corporation   14 years ago

        Xeni Jardin on BoingBoing is also a one-woman Obama propaganda department.

    2. T   14 years ago

      The same douche who advocated for Google to be regulated like a public utility now has qualms about internet regulation? Fuck him.

    3. Brandon   14 years ago

      He had an Obama DNA sample, but then he swallowed. Like a gentleman.

  3. Rich   14 years ago

    "Although technology in and of itself is neutral, and must remain so, the way that Internet is used is not neutral."

    Mon Dieu, quelle id?otie!

  4. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

    The internets don't hurt people's feelings, people hurt people's feelings.

  5. /b/   14 years ago

    Come at me, bro

  6. fish   14 years ago

    It's simply impossible for me to gaze upon Sarko and not see him in his traditional mime disguise!

  7. JOhnny MAckson   14 years ago

    I will not be civilized. LOL

    *slings poop at passerby*

    Jess
    http://www.anon-lol.com

    1. Internet   14 years ago

      *flashes boobs*

    2. Otto   14 years ago

      GG Allibot?

      1. ThisIsAFlash   14 years ago

        (.)(.)

        1. mad libertarian guy   14 years ago

          I'll see your flash, and raise you a moon.

          8=====D
          ( | )

  8. BHL's winged head of hair   14 years ago

    Mmmmm, oui, yes, but we are forgetting perhaps, no, that in France we had the minitel decades before the rest of the world had internet. It is for this fact, is it not, that we can rape not only our chamber maids, with discretion and a civilized hand, no doubt, but our internet users as well.

    1. Internet   14 years ago

      *orders red wine with fish*

    2. Kristen   14 years ago

      You forgot "I maintain"

    3. Jerry   14 years ago

      Minitel was great for picking up a mistress. Or so I have been told.

  9. The Ingenious Hidalgo   14 years ago

    Isn't the "slavery" rhetoric a bit much? Makes me think he's some kind of extremist nutjob.

  10. troy   14 years ago

    mmmmm..... So I don't have to get rid of my videobox.com subscription?

  11. SugarFree   14 years ago

    "What I am calling for is for everyone to be reasonable."

    There's that word again. Like a loose tooth you can't keep jabbing with your tongue.

    1. sevo   14 years ago

      Yes.
      I'm waiting for Sarkozy's definition. And waiting.......

  12. Ken Shultz   14 years ago

    Gee, if I didn't know better, I might think Sarkozy was getting ready to run for reelection.

  13. moop   14 years ago

    that dude's a dirty dick

    1. fish   14 years ago

      Who are the Moops?

      1. moop   14 years ago

        i don't know how to answer this question... i'm from charleston, sc but i live in beijing?

  14. hentai artist   14 years ago

    A French attack on pr0n, poasting, and p2p! This a-hole and all imitators will fail. Without our liberated internetz we'd have nothing to live for.

  15. Don Sarkozy   14 years ago

    I just want to wet my beak.

  16. P Brooks   14 years ago

    Please, can't we let the grownups run the internet?

    They've done so well with all the other stuff.

    1. T   14 years ago

      I think we should establish a commission of all the top men from the best schools to decide what we should do about this internet thingy. It worked out so well for all of us when they handled the financial system like that.

  17. Platypus   14 years ago

    How do you say "Fuck off, you prick!" in French?

    1. sevo   14 years ago

      That'd probably do just fine; he'll get the point.

      1. Fuck off, eurotrash is good.   14 years ago
    2. PS   14 years ago

      "Mercy bow coop see view play, monsewer," is a somewhat subtle way to say it.

    3. prolefeed   14 years ago

      "Ton mere est une salope" would get the general sentiment across.

      1. zoltan   14 years ago

        Ton, not ta?

  18. Joe M   14 years ago

    Governments "wish to enter into dialogue with you so that we can defend one another's interests."

    That just made my bullshit detector explode.

    The government exists to protect the interests of its citizens. The citizens have no such obligations to the government, and really, the idea of government interests is pretty creepy.

    1. Paul   14 years ago

      It's worse. He was speaking to a select group of corporate executives and power movers.

      So he was interested in what essentially amounts to a public/private partnership where those present defend one another's interests.

      It's the sickest of the sick.

  19. Enjoy Every Sandwich   14 years ago

    The government is going to civilize the Internet? Puh-lease. The government doesn't civilize anything.

    1. mad libertarian guy   14 years ago

      Bullshit. Those DC cocktail parties are plenty civilized.

  20. JW   14 years ago

    You'd think Sarkozy would want everyone to maintain access to neekid pictures of his wife, just so he can lord it over the rest of us.

  21. Al Wayswright   14 years ago

    Sarkozy. What a 5'5" gypsy dwarf.

  22. .   14 years ago

    "What I am calling for is for everyone to be reasonable."

    Drink?

    1. Mr Reasoning   14 years ago

      No you have to parse it correctly.

      Reason-able. Able to subscribe to Reason.

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