Jerry Brown

What Do You Call a Governor of a State too Blue to Blame on Republicans? "A progressive Democrat who's broke"

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Wait, wrong ones

The New York Times has an interesting profile out of new New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. Begins like this:

He has clashed with unions, who he believes have helped drive his state toward bankruptcy. He has been praised by prominent conservatives like Sarah Palin and Rudolph W. Giuliani. And he has taken thousands of dollars in campaign money from the New York billionaire David H. Koch, who with his family has helped financed the Tea Party movement.

That's a newspaper that knows its readers!

Try as the NYT might, the most interesting thing about the article is not the guilt-by-Kochsociation, or the lefty griping about Cuomo's political ambitions and rejection of "a politically popular income tax surcharge on the wealthy," but rather the obvious fact that Cuomo is just not being slammed as a devil Scott Walker incarnate. The fiscal situation in New York is hosed (just like it is in the other 50 states), but there just aren't enough Republicans around to blame.

Asked to describe his own beliefs during a news conference in Albany on Saturday, Mr. Cuomo was succinct. "I am a progressive Democrat who's broke," he said, adding: "I disagree with the concept that the only way to get better services is more money, more money, more money. "We've been spending a lot more money. We're not getting better services." […]

Those close to Mr. Cuomo say that he is above all a pragmatist, bent on reshaping Albany's paralyzed government so that it can once again be an effective and credible force in New Yorkers' lives.

There's a reason he ended up that way

What, you may ask, does this have to do with the allegedly looming government shutdown? It's this: When you remove the High Noon-style red-on-blue confrontation, you're left with the same singular fact, one that affects red states, blue cities, and above all Our Nation's Crapitol–We Are Out of Money. I'm just a simple California girl, but the notion of a federal government shutdown strikes me as basically the same as Gov. Walker ramming through a public union-busting bill, and former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger trying (and failing) to denude public sector unions in 2005. They're all marvelous opportunities to rally the dead-enders for another year (or 10) of denialist obsctructionism, and to shift the focus away from the underlying crisis at hand and back onto the always-more-telegenic bumfight. As Senior Editor Tim Cavanaugh wrote last month, "Scott Walker's greatest gift to the left is hidden in plain sight: He managed to turn a consensus position based on straightforward math into what looks like a partisan issue."

I personally won't sniffle on the odd chance that cowboy poetry and the Department of Agriculture will go unfunded for a few hours. But I watched up close as Arnold Schwarzenegger let a thirst for direct conflict with the opposition overwhelm his appetite for more serious (and complicated) reform, luring him into a defeat that produced four years of dreadfully disappointing governance. Wisconsin, it seems to me, is no longer talking much about reducing the size of government. I wasn't around in the mid-'90s, but I hear tell that the government shutdown then didn't turn out well for the limited-government wing of the 1994 Revolution.

Legend in our family has it that we're related to one of Alexander Hamilton's mistresses

This doesn't mean you fight the Class War between the public sector and the rest of us by turning the other cheek, or looking the other way when the New York Times editorial board and other progressives let their versions of fact be determined by how many right-wing oogity-boogities they can blame. But I think it does mean that distilling the Continuing Crisis into a single game of televised chicken gives unearned advantage to the guy who was already losing. Nothing improves long odds like challenging your opponent to a duel.

We're all Jerry's kids now

As Tim Cavanaugh keeps telling us, most thoroughly in his March cover story on "How public pensions killed progressive California," much of the hottest pension-reform action is now coming from Democrats, who have to grapple with the same awful math as Scott Walker. Cuomo put it best to the New York Times last year, in my new favorite quote, "Numbers are numbers….They're numbers. Forget the philosophy. Here are the numbers."

And the fact that Democrats will portray Democratic budget-cutters as "above all a pragmatist" while portraying budget-cutting Republicans as purveyors of a "death trap" is just more evidence of a partisan-intellectual decline that reminds me of nothing so much as Republicanism circa 2004. They've got a ways to go before they hit bottom.

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  1. I’m just a simple California girl,…

    Oh really?

    1. I think he’s still pre-op.

    2. Don’t try to be precious, Matt.

    3. I’m a simple, gay, California cavewoman lesbian. I’m confused by your modern sex toys with their whirling parts and vibrations.

      Sometimes, when I’m buying dental damns for my girlfriend, I get scared by the credit card swiper and attack it, forcing me to write a check for the damages and then drive off in my Mercedes.

      I guess what I’m saying here is that my client, Mr. Cuomo, should not be on trial here. The Republican Party should be on trial.

      1. It must have been pretty rough being a lesbian before modern hygiene.

        1. It was rough! Don’t even get me started on the tongues!

        2. Or just as bad, before the advent of plastics (or even resins).

          I guess you could use ivory/bone for sex toys, but the ability to polish it to a nice smooth finish probably would still dictate it’s utility for pleasure-giving.

          1. We also sometimes used onyx stone batons.

          2. Although having to weave a strap on harness out of rushes was awful.

            1. We also sometimes used onyx stone batons.

              Wow. And i thought the idea of getting a splinter from a wooden sextoy was bad….one bad knap and an obsidian toy would be completely deadly.

              Although having to weave a strap on harness out of rushes was awful.

              *highfive for awesomeness*

              1. Well, wylie, the best part of being an unfrozen lesbian cavewoman is the same tool you use to knock ’em out is the tool you use to knock ’em up.

                Hence the obsidian baton. Start chatting up some chick by the watering hole, she turns around, next thing you know- WHAM!!!

                Sadly, dragging another woman back to your cave is hard work, so I eventually had to devise a pulley system.

                1. Did someone call my name?

                2. so I eventually had to devise a pulley system.

                  The Child Of Invention has Two Mommies?

    4. I’m just a simple California girl…

      Okay, Matt, which intern actually wrote this article?

      1. I wasn’t around in the mid-’90s…

        So, you’re about 12 years old?

    5. Makes you wonder why some media outlets are in trouble, doesn’t it?

  2. I can’t believe anyone would still take the NY Times seriously. I mean, Andrew Cuomo = KOCHTOPUS!!11! Really?

  3. And he has taken thousands of dollars in campaign money from the New York billionaire David H. Koch

    Thousands? Those crafty Kochses sure do get a lot of bang for the buck.

  4. So Cuomo is Kochsucker?

    Seriously though, they couldn’t hit rock bottom soon enough, although the fact that they are already bottom feeders makes it that much more difficult.

    1. Please, “Kochwhore”. I have a hard enough time already correctly pronouncing the name when I read it.

      1. I used to think Koch was pronounced “Cooch”.

        I still pronounce it that way in my head so all these Kochwhatever names are doubly fun for me.

        1. I still pronounce it as a “CH” instead of a hard-C. It’s just sounds better in my head, but it does make all the cock jokes kinda ineffective on me.

          1. “koch” jokes. although coochsucker works for me

  5. Vote for Cuomo, not the homo.

    1. I voted for the prostitute.

      1. Which one was that now?

        1. The one who might have actually engaged in actual intercourse for money, Kristin M. Davis. Not one of the ones who just fuck you.

          1. what with elliot spitzer, et al, i’m still not seeing much diff…

            1. The prostitutes are the ones who get paid to get fucked.

              1. sorry, joke fail on my part in response to ska.

              2. As opposed to taxpayers, who pay to get fucked.

          2. I voted for both Kristin Davis and Kristen Davis. She still didn’t win.

  6. Politicians don’t care about the numbers and the government will never get smaller as long as Democrats and Republicans are governing. The country has accumulated unprecedented debt that cannot be repaid, a huge penalty that will burden you and other income earners for at least the next 40 years. Alternatively, imagine living with a responsible government like Hong Kong, in a Mediterranean climate like California. Chile offers a combination of pleasant climate and fewer government burdens than many others. If you’re ready to shed the debt your government has imposed upon you, it is a good destination to consider:
    http://brophyworld.com/move-to-santiago-chile/

    1. I hear the mining industry is hiring

      1. and the mine-rescue industry

  7. The other 50 states? I think you might mean the other 49 states, plus DC.

    1. He meant to say the other 56, no 57 states.

    2. The other 50 states?

      Reason ran a recent interview of the governor of Puerto Rico.

      Matt is simply projecting his aspirations for their statehood.

  8. Scott Walker’s greatest gift to the left is hidden in plain sight: He managed to turn a consensus position based on straightforward math into what looks like a partisan issue.

    Uh, not to overly defend Walker, but the fucking government union parasites and their fellators in the media and on TEAM BLUE turned it into a partisan issue because they could. Walker also rose to that and made it partisan, but it takes two to tango.

    Thanks again, TEAM RED and TEAM BLUE! Can’t you just find some island to go fuck each other to death on and leave the rest of us alone?

    1. That’s some bad snu-snu.

      1. “She’s built like a steak house, but she handles like a bistro.”

      2. “Did you explain how the women’s good fundamentals make up for their inability to dunk?”

      3. “That does not fempute!”

      4. “You’d sacrifice a beautiful woman to save a moderately attractive monkey? You must have smoked some bad granola.”

    2. Bullshit. It was partisan from the beginning. It wasn’t about the budget, otherwise collective bargaining wouldn’t have been at issue. It was about a nationwide effort to destroy the entities that fund Democrats in elections.

      But your pathetic attempt to claim you’re above it all, while lying in order to defend Republicans, isn’t quite so obnoxious as Matt Welch’s partisan obsession. Oh look, yet another article whose sole purpose is to poke liberals in the eye for perceived hypocrisy.

      1. WWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

      2. Tony|4.7.11 @ 12:15PM|#
        “Bullshit. It was partisan from the beginning. It wasn’t about the budget, otherwise collective bargaining wouldn’t have been at issue.”

        And for your amusement, we have H&Rs; resident ignoramus.
        Hey, dipshit, tell us how collective bargaining works.

        1. By people exercising their first amendment right to do so.

          1. A Union isn’t a person. So it doesn’t have first amendment rights.

            1. and neither is a corporation. but they also enjoy citizens’ rights

              1. Don’t you just love turnabout?

            2. But persons have the right to peaceably assemble.

              1. Unless they are doing it for profit.

                1. Unless they are doing it for profit.

                  I think Tony opposes corporations that are losing money from speaking as well.

                  In fact I am pretty sure companies going broke from over taxation and over regulation are exactly the type of organizations Tony wants bared from speaking.

              2. And employers have the right to tell them to go screw–oh wait, they’ve already done that in most of the private sector, and the unions couldn’t do a damn thing to stop it. So much for SOLIDARITY, BROTHERS AND SISTERS!

                The only reason public sector unions survive is because they’re tied into the bureaucratic regime. That works great until the bureaucracy starts sucking more blood than the host has to give.

          2. Yeah, that’s all there is to it, Tony. No government regulation involved, is there?

      3. It was about a nationwide effort to destroy the entities that fund Democrats in elections.

        Government itself? At least we have you on record saying it.

        1. Government itself?

          +1

        2. “the entities” = government itself = the taxpayer, because that’s who actually funds the government.

          Yes, thanks for admitting that the Democratic party is primarily funded by taxpayers.

          That must be that great level of service you keep talking about.

      4. Putting Tony’s hyperventilating aside isn’t anyone else struck by the fact that Wisconsin has a republican controlled house and senate and republican Governor?

        The media literally freaked the fuck out when Virgina went for Obama in 2008 yet the Wisconsin red shift seemed to go unnoticed.

        Yes it could be a blip but when Wisonson democrats start acting like democrats in Texas one has to wonder.

        Is the midwest turning into red country?

        1. Is the midwest turning into red country?

          Ask Garrison Keillor.

          1. Ask Garrison Keillor.

            I shudder at the thought of him giving me his answer in the form of a song.

  9. The problem is that any serious discussion about cutting the budget quickly degrades into baby-killer sound bytes, because the moochers and looter dominate both parties and a large portion of the media. Just look a Rep. Ryan’s budget that doesn’t balance the budget. Until the US defaults nothing will change but by then we will be royally screwed.

    1. It’s simply a religious belief for some that our civilization can afford unlimited healthcare freely available for all.

      This is why a number of my friends are immigrants from ex-Warsaw Pact shitholes–they know what communism is actually like so I don’t have to listen to claims that I have blood on my hands because I want all the old people and babies to die because I don’t support socialized medicine, etc.

  10. I’m currently visiting western NY. What a shit hole.

    1. Oh yeah. West of Elmira there’s miles and miles of abso-fucking-lutely nothing.

      What part are you in?

      1. Rochester. Grew up in the area, and left the state almost ten years ago. Great pizza, but that is about it.

    2. I had a potential job transfer to “upstate New York” early in my career, which sounded appealing until I visited Olean, NY. Shit hole sounds about right. The more rural sections give up nothing to Montana as a place to go into isolation to work on your manifesto.

      1. Olean isn’t upstate unless you are from NYC. Most of rural NY and all the upstate and western cities blow. The Adirondacks are great, but we have regional zoning – so every part of Montana beats NY

      2. As a rural New York State resident, I don’t find anything wrong with Montana or rural NYS to live in. Other than our friggin’ ignorant gun laws, which become rather inconvenient once you get your State CCW, rural NYS is more like the Midwest than NYC. Everything south of the northeren borders of Rockland and Putnam counties is a shithole along with the Urban areas of Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton and Albany.

        1. concur

        2. At least Rochester has Nick Tahou’s.

    3. You aren’t kidding. Buffalo might be as well be called Cleveland, Junior. It might even be worse in fact.

      1. Buffalo’s much worse than Cleveland. Buffalo is Cleveland in 20 years.

        Of course, Buffalo in 20 years is Detroit, and Detroit in 20 years is Somalia. You don’t want to know what Somalia in 20 years is.

        1. You don’t want to know what Somalia in 20 years is.

          Don’t be a pessimist.

          Seriously one would think a country without a government can only improve over time.

          I am not predicting libertarian utopia but the current governmentless Somalia is doing better then many of its neighbors that have governments.

        2. Also the poeple who lived in Buffalo 20 years ago are doing much better today.

          They live in Texas, Georgia, Arizona and North Carolina now…but they are doing much better.

        3. and Detroit in 20 years is Somalia

          Libertopia!!!1!!11

  11. Japan rocked by 7.4 earthquake.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/…..1&iref=BN1

  12. And why does this webpage have an advertisement from Senator Sherrod Brown opposing SB5, which is an Ohio law almost exactly the same as the one Scott Walker backed?

    1. and will soon be subject to a referendum w kasich’s 30% approval rating (worse than walker’s) looming in the background

  13. And to think his ex-wife is a Kennedy.

  14. We have the same thing every few years in Seattle, especially during Mayoral Races. Over here you have this ultra-left, “affirmative-action-supporting” progressive democrat who wants to make global warming his administration’s top priority, and over here you have this ultra-left, “affirmative-action-supporting” progressive democrat who wants to make global warming his administration’s top priority.

    The one who wins successfully paints his opposition as a Republican-in-drag.

    1. In Houston, the winning mayoral candidate is the Democrat who paints him/herself as a conservative.

      Which is why we have a conservative lesbian Democrat as mayor.

      And no zoning.

      Shit yeah.

  15. I love how the Times says he took “thousands of dollars” from Koch, implying that it was perhaps two or three thousand.

    It was $75,000.

    1. When talking about politics, if someone says a candidate took “thousands” from a contributor, I immediately assume the high five to low six figures.

    2. I’m guessing most NYT readers interpret thousands of dollars when used in connection with the Koch bogeymen to be more like two or three hundred thousand.

      1. The media likes to play little games with orders of magnitude. For example, one could truthfully report that the U.S. is millions of dollars in debt. Sure, it happens to be over $14 million million, but millions is still technically correct.

        1. It is not correct, “technically” or otherwise. Unless you think it would be OK to say that we are “pennies” in debt, provided I put that it’s “14 x 10^15” in pennies.

  16. Mu

  17. Clearly neither team red nor team blue has any desire to get spending under control. The feds and the states are only going to go deeper and deeper and deeper into debt. What happens then? Do the feds eventually just turn on the printing presses and inflate us out of debt? Do we just default and tell the bond holders to go screw? Do we just nationalize everything we can find and tell the taxpayers to go screw? Do the taxpayers finally face reality and elect a raft of libertarians who can put us on a (very) slow path to paying off the debt?

    1. Do the feds eventually just turn on the printing presses and inflate us out of debt?

      The printing presses are running full out already.

      Do we just default and tell the bond holders to go screw?

      Eventually, unless they can hang the bondholders as “bloodsucking usurers” first.

      Do we just nationalize everything we can find and tell the taxpayers to go screw?

      Long term plan “A”. Not for public dissemination.

      Do the taxpayers finally face reality and elect a raft of libertarians who can put us on a (very) slow path to paying off the debt?

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  18. “…the always-more-telegenic bumfight.”

    If you are talking about most lardass politicians, I doubt that a “bumfight” would be at all telegenic.

    1. Entertainment is politics for hot chicks. Or something.

  19. Alt-text:Legend in our family has it that we’re related to one of Alexander Hamilton’s mistresses

    Verified fact in my family is that we’re descended from a “co-conspirator” of Burr’s. Hair trigger FTW!

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