Alex Jones

Profiled: Alex Jones, Self-Trained Historian

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New York magazine's Joe Hagan has good piece on the "libertarian" talk show host and spittle-flecked lunatic Alex Jones, whose conspiracy radio program apparently reaches three million listeners a day. A sample:

Jones is an entertainer—he studied broadcasting at a community college—and hardly unambitious. At one point, he suggests we title this story "Duh—Winning!" He has a staff of 25 and recently built a TV studio for his webcast. He has big dreams of starting an online social network and even a newspaper distributed in major cities. His sense of the Internet, where he has a massive Google footprint of alarming news clips and full-length YouTube movies like The Obama Deception and Fall of the Republic, is that it's a virtual feeding pond for his ideas….

Jones is careful to give Roger Ailes, the Fox News chief, an out on the whole "globalist" agenda. "He actually knows all about this stuff," says Jones. "His bodyguards keep him safe from the New World Order. And that's a fact. Navy SEALS. Retired Navy SEALS."

Jones got a significant amount of press after he "culture jammed" (read: revealed himself to be a nut) an appearance on The View, while talking about his conspiracy chum Charlie Sheen. It was a bizarre performance, but one that Jones was rather proud of, having told the View demographic that Building 7 was blown up by…someone. As Hagan notes, Jones is irritated that his show exists outside of the mainstream, but that Fox News's Glenn Beck has cannibalized much of his schtick. Like Beck, Jones tells Hagan that while his theories might seem strange to the sheeple (his preferred word for us normal people) in the mainstream media, he is, after all, "just studying history." And it's all there, if one knows where to look for it.

I have a few quibbles with Hagan's take on why this brand of conspiracy is so popular—from Jones and Beck to Noam Chomsky and Amiri Baraka—I'll take issue with his claim that while Jones might be mad, he is nevertheless "informed by a deep knowledge of history."

"In the general scope of history and common sense, and studying how humans operate, we're Rome in 407," says Jones. "A few years before Alaric sacking it."

One can, of course, possess a "deep knowledge of history" and not have a clue who how to process all of that knowledge. After reading Hagan's piece, I watched two clips of Jones discussing the real roots of fascism and the Second World War, a subject, he tells listeners, on which he is something of an expert. Indeed, he has read, "no exaggeration, probably more than a hundred" books on the topic. So here is a sampling of what one would learn from listening to Jones babble about the recent past:

Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess, a "World War I fighter ace (sic)," "flew into England (sic) at the start (sic) of the Blitz" with a secret peace deal, only to be locked up in the Tower of London "for the rest of his life (sic)"; you can learn about the religious structure of the SS from historian "Heinz Hobel" (sic); the Germans were on, I presume, an erotic quest for something called "Lebensfrau"; Adolf Hitler—"Adolf Alois (sic) Hitler"—was given "Rockefeller awards" and rather popular in American "gardening" magazines; the Second World War "killed 20 million (sic) Germans"; Edward the 8th had to "advocate" the throne (sic…he "advocates" the throne in this clip too) not because of Wallace Simpson, but because he was a Hitler supporter; the 1940 German invasion of France was staged, the result of a deal with the "Vit-chee French"; curiously, the "Madge-inel Line" (sic) in France failed but the Poles held out, fighting the blitzkrieg with "horse-drawn carriages" (!); Time magazine's 1938 "Man of the Year" feature "praised" Hitler (it didn't). And if you prefer someone more expert in the field of modern German history, here he is interviewing the "highly respected" Holocaust denier and conspiracy crank Michael Hoffman.

If you are susceptible to this sort of nonsense, a red flag that one is entering conspiracy territory, one frequently waved by both Jones and Beck, is the contradictory claims that they possess unique information about a historical or political event and that the information is not conspiratorial. Because, as he repeatedly and defensively claims in the clips linked above, everything he is saying can be confirmed in "mainline" history books. It's an odd trick, considering that cranks like Jones spend an exceptional amount of time denouncing the information found in the "globalist" mainstream media.

Read the whole New York piece here.

Jones on the important issue of mind control:

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  1. We get it Mike, you don’t like the guy.

    But i’d listen to Jones over Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity, or Boortz any day. Michael Savage is the only other one who’s interesting

    1. Holy shit. Those are our choices?

      1. Srsly. I have an iPod. No need to choose among those assholes.

    2. Awesome.

    3. For… the comedic value? Right? Certainly not for… literally any content of value.

      I wouldn’t take Alex Jones over rectal cancer. For a lunatic he’s surprisingly boring.

      1. You’re missing the meta picture. He has proved that crippling mental illness does have to hold back someone’s career one bit. Severe paranoid personality disorder normally relegates the crazies to the loonie bin or makes them spend all day feverishly taking notes on how their neighbors are spying on them for the FBI, the CIA, Mossad, MI6, and major league baseball.

        1. I too remember scoffing at the surveillance satellite launched by Major League Baseball in the late 90’s.

        2. On the other hand, those of us who spend our days and nights promulgating our timely and invaluable opinions on political blogs are the normal ones.

  2. “Deputy F?hrer Rudolf Hess, a “World War I fighter ace (sic),” “flew into England (sic) at the start (sic) of the Blitz” with a secret peace deal, only to be locked up in the Tower of London “for the rest of his life (sic)”; [etc]”

    That’s a RIOT!
    He just left out Hitler and Nixon in Paraguay, 1956. See, it all makes sense!

  3. I’m glad he mentioned this, because I’ve always wondered how conspiracy theorists square their “suppression of the truth” theories with the fact that they are basically screaming this to the high heavens on widely-viewed (or listened to) media, and referencing books you can get easily at B&N or Amazon. If there really was a conspiracy, wouldn’t “They” be shutting these guys up, pulling their broadcasting license, taking these books out of print, etc?

    1. You do know that Alex Jones is being paid by the CIA to make us -the other conspiracy junkies- look bad?!

      1. That’s just crazy talk.

  4. I don’t know why, but i just can’t get worked up over these guys, thrash around though they do. Some cultural affinity I can’t explain. They may be retards, but I feel like they’re our retards.

    1. Fuck no they’re not ours! I despise the idea that these fuckwits are somehow “libertarian”. They aren anti-libertarian. You have this twats saying they would be happy to pay taxes (if only it were proved the 16th was ratified), that congress should be printing money (instead of the joos running the Fed), that free trade takes away our sovereignty (they’re building a highway! OMG!), etc., etc. They handed out AFTF and LC door to door in 2008 while pretending to campaign for Ron Paul.

      They are the REAL conspiracy. The deliberately infect the libertarian community with insanity and statism.

      1. Amen, brother. Jones’ nonsense is like a cancer in the liberty movement.

  5. I once “mainlined” a history book. Greatest high I have ever had.

  6. Jones’ understanding of history is enough to make you (sic). No doubt the ladies (sic) of The View loved slapping the libertarian label on this guy.

  7. CHEMTRAILS!

    1. “Shoppers! Blue-Light Special! Tin-foil caps! Aisle 6!”

    2. I sort of see this as reflecting his obsession with purity. Chemtrails are supposed to contaminate people, along with genetically-engineered foods, flu shots, fluoride in the water, and etc. One way to stop the New World Order, then, is to get rid of all bodily impurities.

      There’s also the demonization of the elite as sexual deviants (sodomites at Bohemian Grove). So he’s a sexual puritan too. And then there’s something weirdly sadomasochistic about watching him. You go from chest-thumping triumphalism one minute to feeling humiliated at the awesome and unstoppable power of the “New World Order” the next. He’s a fascist.

  8. unfortunately it’s increasingly easy to falsely label people like this “libertarian.” read enough comments on this site and one can understand why.

    1. Hey buddy, fuck you!

  9. Hogwash. This is a low budget hit piece at best. What quote is this about WW1 history..? Another fabrication that is completely irrevelant to his message and content. Hope the readers here are smarter than this.

    1. Uh oh, looks like you’re riling up his fans, Michael. It’s all a conspiracy to make Jones look like a conspiracist!

      1. To summarize: Alex Jones is a crank and doesn’t know how to pronounce abdicate. I’m just having a hard time figuring out why we’re supposed to give a fuck.

    2. “What quote is this about WW1 history..?”

      For starters, it’s *WWII*. Just so you know.

      1. “World War II – The Other World War I?”

        1. WWII; the “NEW WWI”?

          1. WWI Pt. II

            1. WWII, This time it’s personal!

  10. The only thing sad about Jones and his crew is I meet more and more libertarians not “libertarians” (actual honest small government types with a copy of Rothbard on their shelves and a Paul bumpersticker on their vehicle) who actually go for this stuff – there has always been a conspiratorial streak in libertarianism but I find it a lot more prominent in the past ten years at least based on the libertarians I now encounter. It makes sense – as our government becomes more opaque and authoritarian conspiracies become an increasingly easy way to make sense of the world in stead of just racking it up to systems and self interest…

    1. If they are dumb enough to put Rothbard on their shelves then they are dumb enough to subscribe to Jones’s shit.

      1. Fuck off Randroid.

        1. Feck off, cup! Drink! Arse! Girls!

      2. Thew difference between Rand and Rothbard. Footnotes, documentation, sound theoretical modeling based on several generations of work. Ayn Rand just wrote whatever sentimental crap came flowing out of her ass. If she were alive today, Twitter would be her most apt medium.

      3. All Randroids hate Rothbard because he makes an explicit case against the corporatist state. Rand never could tell the difference between free market capitalist and rent seekers, in fact she expressed awe at the likes of GE.

        Exposure to his writing makes you feel like the chump you are, hence the hate without any rationale backing it.

        1. Fascinating. Do you have a blog?

        2. Randroids hate Rothbard because he refused to divorce his Christian wife when it was demanded of him.

          I disagree with a lot of Rothbard, but his big “fuck you” to Ayn Rand earns him a permanent spot in my hero list.

    2. Agreed. Before the WMD Iraq and the bombing campaign to distract attention from Monica, it was fun to tell myself that my government was run by wrongheaded but basically descent people.

    3. The conspiratorial mindset is always popular amongst the powerless. Of course, there’s not much use for conspiracy theories considering the stuff the govt does out in the open and gets away with.

    4. If you think conspiracy theories are prevalent to only specific political ideologies, guess again.

      You got it right about making sense of the world, but that spans all beliefs and ideologies.

    5. Spur, very insightful, man. I’ve noticed the exact same thing, especially among the most vocal and active whom I know. It’s rather sad that they pollute their minds with this rubbish and waste their time chasing chemtrails, fluoridated water, and 9/11 conspiracies.

  11. Yeah guys, don’t mess with Michael Moynihan’s big B.A. in history from UMass, Amherst.

    In case you don’t know, that’s the school Animal House was modeled after.

    If you do mess with him, Moynihan will come after you with that big head of his and his nervous demeanor.

    1. Josh|3.28.11 @ 8:14PM|#
      “Yeah guys, don’t mess with Michael Moynihan’s big B.A. in history from UMass, Amherst….”

      Was that *you* on the grassy knoll?

    2. If that’s what Faber College was modeled after, that just makes Welch even MORE awesome.

      Awesome!!

      1. My local Congressman went to Faber. He is Delta House’s beloved “Flounder”.

        1. I thought Bwaney was Flounder.

    3. I thought it was fairly well-accepted that the main model for Faber was Dartmouth. It’s almost certainly not ZooMass, as Emily Dickinson College is either Mt. Holyoke (most likely) or Smith and Amherst to South Hadley or Northampton does not qualify under any definition of road trip.

      That said, just about any alumnus of an early 1960s liberal arts-oriented college/university seems to claim that their alma mater was the real inspiration for Animal House (my dad is convinced to this day that it’s modeled on the exploits of Kappa Sigma at Hobart, with no further explication on how Kenney and Ramis found out about what happened on the shores of Seneca Lake, though the theory is advanced that a Geneva band was the inspiration for Otis Day and the Knights).

    4. Wow, ad hominem much? *shakes head at intellectual vacancy*

  12. I see Alex Jones as a kind of fascist, although in a uniquely American form.

    There’s the obsession with purity (chemtrails, genetically-engineered foods, flu shots, fluoride, etc. are considered impure), national decline caused by internationalists and cosmopolitans (who are also sexually deviant sodomites at Bohemian Grove), and his obsession (or fascination) with totalitarianism is a doth protest too much kind of thing, methinks, since he seems to love marketing his merchandise in a blatantly totalitarian/fascistic style.

    His association with actual bleeding Holocaust deniers and anti-Semites doesn’t help his case much either.

    I’m also regularly awed by his ability to scream about the unstoppable and total power of the “New World Order” one second and then switch over to saying how the same thing is on the verge of utter obliteration by his national “Patriot” revolution. There’s something sadomasochistic about it — the switching back and forth between total humiliation and total victory.

    Umberto Eco described it as an essential component to fascism. The Nazis were convinced the Bolsheviks were part of this titanic global conspiracy (in league with the Jews), but that the conspiracy was also on the verge of tipping right over the edge of absolute defeat. It’s for this reason the Nazis were incapable of rationally evaluating the relative strengths and weaknesses of their enemies, which doomed them in the end.

  13. Its self evident that Jones is a NWO plant designed by the Elders of Zion to associate in the public consciousness real, obviously true conspiracies like the Bilderbergs, AIDS alarmists, and the RFK assasination with moonbat, obviously false conspiracies like the 9/11 truthers, chemtrails, and the JFK assasination.

    I thought everyone knew that.

  14. Jones is a fucking nutcase – everybody knows WTC7 collapsed after the airplane hit it.

    1. Oh…..boy… :facepalm:

    2. Well played.

  15. I, of course, googled Leben Frau.

    1. Those two sure do seem to be admiring the view.

  16. Alex Jones’s professed hatred of totalitarianism and fascism is a doth protest too much kind of thing, methinks. I see it more as a sort of fascination, or projection, considering how he markets his merchandise with blatantly fascistic aesthetics. There’s these macho poses, in high camp mode, combined with nationalist-revolutionary symbols.

    There’s the obsession with national humiliation and decline in the face of internationalists and cosmopolitans, and there’s the obsession with purity (chemtrails, genetically-engineered crops, fluoride, flu shots being impure). There’s also the demonization of the elite as sexual deviants.

    There’s also something sadomasochistic about him. There’s this back-and-forth between chest-thumping triumphalism (“the revolution is just beginning, and it will be a total victory”) and total humiliation at a “New World Order” which controls everything and can’t be stopped.

  17. What, no coverage of Dear Leader’s “Why We Fight” speech tonight?

    “To brush aside America’s responsibility as a leader and ? more profoundly ? our responsibilities to our fellow human beings under such circumstances would have been a betrayal of who we are,” Obama said. “Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different. And as president, I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action.”

    “The democratic impulses that are dawning across the region would be eclipsed by the darkest form of dictatorship, as repressive leaders concluded that violence is the best strategy to cling to power. The writ of the U.N. Security Council would have been shown to be little more than empty words, crippling its future credibility to uphold global peace and security.”

    Obama took pains to say why he chose to intervene in Libya even while acknowledging that America’s military cannot be used to stamp out every instance of repression.

    “There will be times when our safety is not directly threatened, but our interests and values are,” the president said.

    “Sometimes, the course of history poses challenges that threaten our common humanity and common security. … These may not be America’s problems alone, but they are important to us, and they are problems worth solving,” Obama said. “And in these circumstances, we know that the United States, as the world’s most powerful nation, will often be called upon to help.”

    1. “The writ of the U.N. Security Council would have been shown to be little more than empty words, crippling its future credibility to uphold global peace and security.”

      Because it’s been doing a hell of a job before now!

      1. “The writ of the U.N. Security Council would have been shown to be little more than empty words, crippling its future credibility to uphold global peace and security.”

        hehehehe

      2. “Astonishingly, in May 2010, in a secret ballot, Libya received a shocking 155 votes (out of 192 countries), and was elected to the UN Human Rights Council.”

        One minute you?re voted in due to your human rights accomplishments during 40 years of rule, the next they?re bombing the hell out of you to protect civilians from human rights abuses.

  18. Why does Reason keep running smear articles on the leaders of the liberty movement? I remember this hunk of shit from last year: https://reason.com/archives/201…..l-delusion and now this garbage.

    This is clearly a case of jealousy and/or malice.

    1. Alex Jones has no understanding of history, no underlying principles informing his thought, and is way too credulous. Libertarians have spent something like 60 years on the political margins, derided as cranks while the Serious Thinkers in charge wrecked economies, lives, and a fair number of foreign countries.

      Now we’re finally gaining some decent ground, and we owe no credit to Alex Jones for it. This bullshit about chemtrails and the Amero doesn’t help us. It just makes it easier for the statist establishment to write us off as kooks.

      Jones doesn’t deserve to be a “leader” of the liberty movement. He shouldn’t be anywhere near it. He needs to get pitched the fuck overboard.

      1. They’re not going to stop portraying us as ‘cranks’ or ‘kooks’ no matter how much credibility we gain or how obvious it becomes. The ruling elite consists of mostly unscrupulous scoundrels, and they are intellectually bankrupt so all they have left are those bullshit labels.

        And I disagree that Alex Jones is bad for the liberty movement. He’s got more credibility than the mainstream media, and he’s got a huge listening/viewing audience that is bustling. You won’t see his website running any hit pieces on Ron Paul either.

      2. Preach it, brother!

  19. Gee, if the Libertarian Party could just get its hands on one of those psychotronic mind control devices so they could brainwash voters to support them through their lightbulbs… nah, they’d still manage to lose.

    1. Such actions would be antithetical to the philosophy of liberty. You’re describing what statists would do if so empowered.

  20. As long as you’re using “sic”s to illustrate Jones’ lunacy, I might add one to your article: You refer to “Wallace Simpson” to which I add a “sic.” It’s Wallis Simpson. Still, Jones is an idiot and is too often featured on the late night Coast To Coast AM radio show and fawned over by its often loony host, George Noory.

  21. Jones, the UFO guy? He does politics too? Is it suppose to be on the up and up or is it theater? Or like most media people, a thick mix of both?

    What is the purpose of a critique of some such person, btw. Shine a light on nonsense? Okay, that’s good stuff as far as it goes. But I’m usually as suspicious of the critic as I am of everyone else. How to tell if a denouncer of conspiracies is on the up and up? The test is to ask him if he believes there exist a distinction between conspiracies and false flag operations. Though conspiracies typically involve an exaggeration of an actual organization (or previously actually existing one like the Illuminati) power in the world, false flag operations not only exist, they are likely the most common non type of activity taken up by intelligence organizations the world over. I’ve seen some MSM types try to obfuscate the two — conspiracies and false flag operation — as if the later is as bad to believe in as much as the former.

    Which of course means they are on the payroll of the NWO!

    1. non passive type of activity taken up by intelligence organizations the world over.

  22. “A subconscious sleep-like state where you’re accepting (sic) of everything…”

    Nice. Definitely two minutes I won’t get back.

    Another five minutes I won’t get back? Those spent reading the “good” New York piece, in which the reporter talks about Jared Loughner and Jones’s influence upon him by using a technique similar to the journalistic two-step known as the “some critics say” dance.

    Just who it is who’s dangerous is another question. The possible influence of Jones and other conspiracy-mongers became a subject of controversy after the attack on Representative Gabrielle Giffords and others by Jared Lee Loughner, who was said to be a devotee of a Jones-?affiliated 9/11 video called Loose Change, as well as Zeitgeist, an online film by a freelance video editor who has worked for advertising agencies and shares a number of Jones’s interests, like the 9/11 Truth movement and the century-old conspiracy theory that the Federal Reserve is running the world.

    No conclusions jumped to in that paragraph. Nothing tenuous about the bolded connection there.

    Can we cue Ditzy Blond UCLA Student please…?

  23. One of the things that helps Jones, etc. out – go to Infowars – it looks just about as professional as fox, cnn, reason, salon, etc. and has about the same ratio of truth to bullshit as most ‘mainstream’ news online news outlets or political radio shows you come across.

    I find Fox and CNN’s coverage of Libya to be about 80% lies/batshit crazy/outright propaganda pieces not based in reality – why tar Jones with a different brush?

  24. Moynihan is a Beltway Libertarian.

    1. Moynihan is a Beltway Libertarian.

      Or People’s Republic of Cambridge Libertarian…

  25. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C…..a#USA_1997

    say what you will about jones but lumping together all “conspiracy theories” and the people who espouse them in a way that implies prerequisite mental illness is nonsense. the media campaign that successfully marginalized conspiracy theorizing about the Warren Report was to a large extent orchestrated by the govt (see “CIA and the media” on wikipedia, above). so the seeds for the whole “you must be crazy if you believe the govt is lying to you” idea were sewn at least in part through a disinfo campaign by the govt itself. talking about the CIA selling drugs is still largely considered a “conspiracy theory”, but look at the wiki page for “Gary Webb (journalist)”. when you don’t distinguish between the zionist occupation, 9/11 truth ideas/people, and the emad salem/ gary webb people, you perpetuate the idea that questioning the government is a sign of mental illness and when someone in the media calls something a “conspiracy theory” its not worth your time investigating. i’m gonna file this one under “reasons why LRC blog > hit & run”.

  26. The problem with focusing on conspiracy theory is that you move from the safety and sanctitiy of arguing for a principled political philosophy to proving a bunch of stuff you can’t. The problem with Alex Jones mixing the two is that he instantaneously does more damage to the libertarian cause than any liberal or neo-con could in their lifetimes.

    That said, is there a single smear piece in any magazine or newspaper with the name “New York” in it that doesn’t almost immediately contain the word “Holocaust Denier” in it as well?

  27. On a separate note, I don’t see the problem with being a “self-trained historian” so long as you actually kind of know what your talking about.

    The alternative is college-trained historians who spend years learning there has “never been such a thing as a communist state”.

    1. I was recently reading “Russia Against Napoleon” by Domick Levin. In the introduction he says that the surest way to make yourself unappointable in UK or American history departments is to say you want to write about kings, diplomacy and battles.

      Professional historians just don’t write about or study wars and military history much anymore. If you want that self trained amateurs are the way to go.

      1. Except for the U.S. Civil War (e.g. Robertson, Gallagher, etc.) – get set for a new flood of books as we enter the 150th anniversary period.
        (Not that some of the best books on the c.w. aren’t by “amateur” historians.)

    2. Well said, Beezard. Though I am accredited to teach history myself, the majority of my historical knowledge has been gained outside the academy.

  28. Hey, I like Alex Jones. If you listen long enough you’ll start to see how he’s built up this enormous, complicated saga where good and evil are locked in an epic battle for the future of humanity. You can’t get that from any other radio or TV show except those that came after Alex Jones and modeled their show after his.

    1. The master of all times was a guy named Dave Emory. But he might have only been on our local community college radio station.

  29. Isn’t it amazing that the mainstream media crazy’s in the New York magazine’ like Joe Hagan rant are losing readers, listeners and yet all the real news that is ignored by them and others is replaced with ballpark and fluff news. Yes the death of corporation propaganda news has hit a new low. Good luck, as no one is buying the mainstream news or here what they say anymore as it all nonsense, well except for those sheep who need to be told what to do or how to think…

  30. Fuck you asshole, I have a Phd in history. And no TV. BRAINWASHED!!!

    1. A Phd in History combined with a complete lack of basic civility or rhetorical competence–brilliant. I must assume you teach at a public university based on such an obviously alchemical combination.

  31. Reason, please, proofread before submitting. There are a number of glaring grammatical errors here. Rhetorically speaking, this undermines your credibility.

  32. Idiots. This is a hit piece.

    1. Who wouldn’t hit Alex Jones? He’s so sexy… all that anger. Oooh! *shiver*

  33. his webcast. He has big dreams of starting an online social network and even a newspa

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