Education

Public School Segregation Returns, But With Good Intentions

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As Sinclair Lewis should have said, when segregation returns to American public schools it will come wrapped in a union contract and carrying a copy of The State of America's Children.

Principal Bill Jimenez should segregate those polka dots out of his tie.

A high school principal in Lancaster, Pennsylvania is defending a policy of separating an underperforming segment of the student body—and he's not talking about the Amish. From the Daily Mail:

The scheme, at McCaskey East High School in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, separates black students from the rest of the school pupils, and then further breaks it down into black females and black males.

The separation is only for a short period —six minutes each day and 20 minutes twice a month—but it has drawn criticism for raising the spectre of racial segregation.

That use of "spectre" (apologies for any and all U.K. spellings) is cute. If the specter of segregation is being raised that's because the policy is in fact segregation.

McCaskey Principal Bill Jimenez clearly takes the specter seriously enough to highlight that we're only talking about a few minutes a day. But if that period is too short to cause offense, it's almost certainly too short to make a difference in the education of a student. The Philly Inquirer has a pretty thorough description of how the program works. (Think "Pants on the Ground" performed by somebody with a teaching credential.)

While there is some evidence that girls perform better when separated from the loathsome presence of males, the case for the remedial benefits of race segregation is less clear. I'm not making an absolutist color-blind argument here: Whether they work or not, race-aware educational programs in the post-integration era were put in place to address a history of state-supported injustice that went entirely in one direction. To point out that they go against the ideal of a color-neutral society doesn't end the argument, and this is an area where the utilitarian case (Blast regulations! You only get one chance to educate a kid!) is particularly strong.

But this is not an extracurricular activity, a parochial school, or any other choice-based setting. This is the state monopoly laying its finger on a black kid and making him report to a different homeroom based on his race. Before taking such an extraordinary step, you'd better be pretty sure it will help the student.

What's stunning is the presumption of rightness the policy seems to be getting. Although the school has taken some flak, the comments in the Daily Mail story are almost all favorable. A Temple professor of something called "urban education" salutes the school for "trying a new strategy to effect change" and helping "students feel engaged and connected to what the school has to offer." NAACP head Benjamin Jealous and Children's Defense Fund President Marian Wright Edelman, who have lately been slamming a North Carolina school district for trying to move from busing to "neighborhood schools," don't appear to have anything to say on this issue.

The idea seems to be that segregation is bad when it results from the choices made by private people, but helpful when it's clothed in liberal good intentions and forced on students deemed to be collectively underperforming. Or when it only last six minutes a day.

If you missed Reason's school choice week, now's your chance to do a little remedial education yourself.

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  1. Teach Jews and Asians separately, and everyone else will give up even trying.

      1. So…will anyone mention what all these underperforming kids have in common, other than the color of their skin?

        How about someone in ‘authority’ growing the balls and common decency to say that the particular culture that these kids come from is (gasp!) harmful and wrong?

        Much of modern American black culture = no hope for black people. It won’t change if we won’t even speak it’s name.

        1. And no politician who has a guaranteed vote from a voting bloc will ever have the balls to say anything other than, “Here’s some more free shit, compliments of everyone else!”

          It doesn’t matter what or who comprises that bloc.

    1. Why do you think public schools are already bad? Some of us get taught at home.

    2. ^^THIS^^

  2. Six minutes each day? They likely spend more time changing classes. What can possibly be worthwhile enough that would only take six minutes?

    1. Separating people because they are different in order to tell them they aren’t different should only take six minutes.

    2. Nothing, obviously. But you have to start somewhere, and six minutes a day doesn’t seem to be ruffling any feathers. This will be seen as a “success” (however they define it), and next year it will be 12 minutes.

      Sine the folks in charge never really change much, they have all the time in the world to get this done.

  3. This is different from the segregation that happened in the south. That was based in the idea that blacks were inferior and it was done to “keep them in their place.”

    However, here, as in many other moral issues, decisions have to be made. As with health care, it is unrealistic to treat everyone “equally.” In health care, ultimately, decisions will have to be made based on group. When there are people who can’t afford basic health care, it is unrealistic to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on people who just have a few months to live. This isn’t to say those people are “inferior.”

    Same with the schools. If one group needs special attention, anyone who has a moral conscience would agree they should be given it. Given that resources in tax-revenue starved public schools are scant, there isn’t time to individually root out the students who need help. Looking at groups as a whole who underperform is an efficient way to do it.

    1. Or we could treat people as individual agents rather than categorical data points and let them make their own decisions about their lives.

      But that’s crazy talk.

      1. Even the libertardians admit their ideas are crazy talk.

        1. That’s not crazy talk! This is crazy talk:

          blah blah blahbla blah blah blahbla blablablabalbalba

          1. The term is “Psycho Talk” – as in “anything uttered by anyone even slightly right-of-center”.

            And if you don’t believe me, I’m gonna torch the fuckin’ place.

            1. Dude, no one has your stapler. Just get over it.

        2. ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF ARF

    2. Exactly. You see, your average black child has an extra fold in his brain. It makes them better at kinetic and aural modes of learning. They do better with about six minutes of extra, racially aware teaching per day. No more, no less, just six minutes. Most people don’t know all that, but it’s science!

      1. Bill for the win!

      2. unless, of course, somebody comes up with 5 minute racial beancounting. Then you’re in trouble, huh?

    3. I loved being spoofed. I wish my new wife let me have more time to play with you guys.

      But she has certain….tactical advantages.

      This must be a fun issue for you guys, as various elements of your ideology are somewhat in conflict.

      1. In other words, I would love to say that government discrimination based on race somehow fits into the libertarian ideology. But, since I can’t, I’ll pretend like I’m getting laid instead.

        1. He had that one coming. +1

          1. We know who wears the tampons in your new family, Chad.

        2. “I would love to say that government discrimination based on race somehow fits into the libertarian ideology”

          It doesn’t. But discrimination that is based on data school choice do. Hence, you are in conflict.

          1. “But discrimination that is based on data school choice do.”
            Try that in English; lost my brain-dead decoder ring.

          2. Choad, stop setting of straw men of these nice libertarians, or it’s you and your hand tonight.

      2. At least I’m not pussy-whipped.

      3. Is she a boogawolf? I know too many people like you. They all got nastoids on their tip.

      4. I wish my new wife let me have more time to play with you guys.

        Since when did blow-up dolls have that kind of authority?

      5. Congrats Chad…never mind these bitches 😉

        1. Everyone hates you, and only you and your mom read your blog.

          Why don’t you just kill yourself and be done with it?

          1. “only you and your mom read your blog?”

            I must be replicating faster than Agent Smith because I’m about to hit the 5k mark

            1. …and so unsure of yourself, you come back the next day to see who’s commenting.

              What a loser you are.

              1. …and so unsure of yourself, you come back the next day to see who’s commenting.

                What a loser
                slow you are. LOL! Did you even realize you managed to call yourself a loser?

      6. But she has certain….tactical advantages.

        I’m sure she does.

        1. Think I SF’d the link:

          Tactical advantages

    4. ‘This is different from the segregation that happened in the south. That was based in [sic] the idea that blacks were inferior and it was done to “keep them in their place”.’

      Whereas this is based on the idea that blacks are inferior and it is done to ‘provide special attention’.

  4. I doubt segregation is good for anyone save those of us who enjoy a good opportunity to point and shout RACIST!!! at progressives with big hearts and low expectations. On the other hand, I generally don’t like putting any idea automatically off limits.

    Fact of the day: The popular term “Blast regulations!” was first uttered by Captain James T. Kirk to Commodore Matt Decker for almost destroying the Enterprise with his piss-poor starship jockeying. When you borrow a friend’s ride, don’t scratch the paint.

    And that’s a lesson we can all use, whether we are black, white or green. You’re welcome, gentle H&R reader.

    1. “When you borrow a friend’s ride, don’t scratch the paint.”

      I always keep this in mind when fucking my friends’ wives…

  5. I would say Principal Jimenez has fully succeeded at segregating the brain outta his own head.

  6. It’s one thing if they are segregating underperforming students who happen to be black and pairing them with mentor who they might listen to.

    It’s a whole other thing if they are segregating black students regardless of performance.

    Since this appears to be the former, I don’t really have a problem with this.

    1. “The scheme, at McCaskey East High School in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, separates black students from the rest of the school pupils”

      Nothing in that quote suggests it’s the former to me?

      1. The Philadelphia Inquirer article suggests that participation is voluntary, and was open only to low performing African-American students-but will be expanded to all low performers going forward.

        1. So will the latinos and irish get their own “mentoring program”?

          1. So will the latinos and irish get their own “mentoring program”?

            And maybe serve complementary quesadillas and corned beef?

      2. This paragraph from TFA is somewhat vague:

        The idea was simple – a homeroom mentoring program for underachieving African American students whose test scores were the lowest in the racially diverse school. Under the plan, students would be divided by race and gender and placed in homerooms with African American teachers, or mentors, for a six-minute start to the school day that focused on the importance of academic achievement and looking ahead to careers.

        It’s not clear from this whether the program applies to underachieving students who happen to be black, or to all black students, who are statistically more likely to underachieve.

        There is an anecdote later in the story about a high-performing black student who chose not to opt out of the program. So, yeah, it seems like it applies to everyone who happens to have a certain amount of melanin on their skin.

        Therefore, fuck it.

        1. Are you Randy Newman? ‘Cause, you comment on everything!

  7. Forgive me, but I’m kinda fuzzy on how this going to help anybody. What’s the point?

    1. It makes leftwingers feel good.

      1. I simply cannot understand how American left-liberals can feel good about racial profiling after spending decades, billions of dollars, and barrels of ink demonizing it.

        And, make no mistake, American left-liberals are incapable of distinguishing between causality and correlation when it comes to racial profiling.

        1. I simply cannot understand how American left-liberals can feel good about racial profiling after spending decades, billions of dollars, and barrels of ink demonizing it.

          Because there doing it for all the right reasons.

        2. For the same reason they did it before, back when the original Progressive president, Teddy Roosevelt declared the black man was at least 200,000 years behind the white man.

          They had studies and books and graphs and charts that “conclusively” demonstrated their preconceived ideas of inequality. But now, instead of using sociology to keep blacks segregated so as not to corrupt “pure” white society, they want to segregate the black man away from white society “for their own good.”

          As long as you are paternalistic and sufficiently condescending, racism is okay.

      2. And that’s the only reason leftwingers do ANYTHING, Jordan. Not to get results, but just to feel better about themselves.

        That, and to gain/retain power for their elected overlords.

    2. It reminds us that establishment progressives aren’t actually liberal — they’re just the “white man’s burden” style of racist instead of the “burning crosses” style of racist.

      1. It reminds us that establishment progressives aren’t actually liberal — they’re just the “white man’s burden” style of racist instead of the “burning crosses” style of racist.

        The next policy that oppresses blacks will be done in the name of helping blacks.

        The next policy that oppresses women will be done in the name of feminism.

        The next policy that takes away freedom will be done in the name of freedom.

        There seems to be a pattern here…

        1. women should not have the choice to stay at home with the children and be a homemaker, because if they are given that choice, too many will take it.

  8. Get a load of this comment from Board President and attorney Richard Caplan:

    “Lancaster, like many school districts, is facing a big budget deficit and does not want to do anything to provoke “a civil rights lawsuit by a disgruntled white person or Latino,” Caplan said.”

    That’s right, Dick (apt name). The only person who would complain about segregation of blacks would be a “disgruntled white.”

    We need school choice, and we need it now.

    1. Remember:

      Guys named “Dick”… usually live up to the name.

      1. Except for me, because of the (D) after my name.

        1. I’ll cop to it.

          1. Bewitched fucked my acting career in the ass harder than Dick Sargent!

            1. Can I get in on some of that?

  9. Ann Arbor schools field trip for black students draws anger

    A school district is defending its intentions but reviewing its policies after a field trip by African-American elementary students to meet a University of Michigan rocket scientist drew complaints from excluded children and their parents.

    Ann Arbor Public Schools officials said Wednesday that the trip last week by 30 Dicken Elementary School students to meet Alec Gallimore, an African-American aerospace engineering professor and propulsion lab director at the university, was intended to inspire them as part of a bigger push to close a persistent gap in test scores between black and white students.

    She [District spokeswoman Liz Margolis] said the fallout started when the students returned from the trip and were met with boos from classmates who stayed behind. Principal Mike Madison, who is African-American, heard the commotion and came to the room to admonish the students for what she termed a “highly inappropriate” response and explain the rationale for the trip, she said.

    It’s OK when progressives do it.

    1. Some elementary school kids had to stay in class while their classmates got to go meet a guy who builds rockets?

      They’re lucky that booing was all they got.

    2. “…to meet Alec Gallimore, an African-American aerospace engineering professor and propulsion lab director at the university, was intended to inspire them as part of a bigger push to close a persistent gap in test scores between black and white students.”

      So the non-black kids are not supposed to be inspired in the hopes of ‘closing the gap’?
      Sorta like reducing some peoples’ income for equality?

      1. Yo, fuck the cracka kids! AND they babies!

    3. What a bunch of garbage. If everyone is still so racist, wouldn’t it have been good to rub it in the evil, racist white kids faces that black people are, in fact, just a capable as anyone else? Nope, lets separate everyone and keep the tribalism alive and well. All the easier to manipulate you under these conditions…

      I’m with Number 2:

      We need school choice, and we need it now.

    4. Obviously the key to closing the gap is to hold some students back.

      Brilliant.

      1. Sponsored by the group that boycotted apartheid.

  10. I think it`s a lil bit crazy….

  11. If you read the 19th Century literature about the alleged inferiority of blacks, you’ll see that most of it is full of paternalistic statements about racist policies being for the good of blacks. Good intentions don’t negate the problems of racial segregation in public schools.

    1. But, but, but…it was all done so very scientifically! I mean anthropology and sociology and biology told us so! The science was settled! And scientists would never use the great and powerful SCIENCE! to prove their own prejudices!

  12. As Sinclair Lewis should have said

    Weak lede, or weakest lede?

    1. It’s OK, I’ll explain the joke to you when you’re a little older.

  13. All I can say is, they better not feed the black kids chicken at lunch if they want to avoid controversy.

    But what do they do with kids of mixed race, I wonder? This, of course, was a huge sticking point for Southern segregation back in the day, where they had to arbitrarily define a percentage cutoff.

    1. Three minutes instead of six.

  14. Before taking such an extraordinary step, you’d better be pretty sure it will help the student.

    And exactly how are you planning to acquire that information absent experimental data?

    1. “And exactly how are you planning to acquire that information absent experimental data?”

      At the very least, you ought to have some strong inferential tendencies from some other studies.
      The alternative is tossing the dice and trying whatever.

      1. At the very least, you ought to have some strong inferential tendencies from some other studies.

        Perhaps you could give us some insight into what kind of studies, and how you propose to conduct them?

        1. So a public school is the only setting in which such an experiment could take place?

          1. {Exactly! And no control group needed!}

            Please note the use of {sarcasm brackets}…

            1. Er, wouldn’t virtually every other school in the country function as a control group?

              Just sayin’….

        2. “Perhaps you could give us some insight into what kind of studies, and how you propose to conduct them?”

          No, I won’t, since I’m not the guy trying to justify this stupidity.
          If he doesn’t have a single inference from, say, accidental segregation, WIH is he doing with those kids? Random experiments?

  15. Let me get this straight:

    It isn’t a violation of students’ civil rights to threaten their parents with fines and jail if they fail to assemble daily in a certain building for government-mandated “instruction,” but it is a violation of their civil rights if they’re shuffled around and placed in certain groups while they’re there?

    1. threadwinner!

  16. What’s stunning is the presumption of rightness the policy seems to be getting. Although the school has taken some flak, the comments in the Daily Mail story are almost all favorable.

    Perhaps the rest of the world is finally acknowledging realities that are still giving you Enlightened? types a “whoooosh” moment?

    1. What the fuck are you going on about, slappy?

    2. You mean people are realizing that Jim Crow was actually a good thing?

    3. “…Perhaps the rest of the world is finally acknowledging realities…”

      What “realities” might those be?

    4. It’s “enlightened” to treat people as individuals? I thought that was just not being a collectivist. Unlike you.

      1. Why just people? Are you discriminating against plants and other animals? Isn’t grouping individuals by species collectivist as well?

        That was a lame line even when Ayn Rand used it. And it’s not improving with age.

        1. You’re salty tonight, slappy. What’s wrong? Did your sister leave you and run off with your pops…again? You really do need to get a better lock on that basement door.

          Jeeze man, I’m sorry. I know how much you loved her.

          At least you still have the livestock.

        2. “Why just people? Are you discriminating against plants and other animals? Isn’t grouping individuals by species collectivist as well?”

          Well, “lame” doesn’t begin to describe that bullshit.
          “Stupid”? “Anti-deluvial”? I need some help here.

          1. It’s also “diluvial”, if we’re going to pile on.

            1. “It’s also “diluvial”, if we’re going to pile on.”
              My spell-check can beat your spell-check.

        3. Thanks, Slappy. Now, come springtime, I’m gonna have to put tiny fences around every blade of grass in my yard.

        4. WHAIT PAHR WHAIT PAHR WHAIT PAHR

          Fucking die already, Nazi scum.

          1. Funny, the dandelions in my yard seem to like the idea…

          2. Warty, I’ve done thorough research on this and you are the biggest faggot on this board. I know you’ve been here for years. What the fuck are you doing with your life you worthless goon? Jesus, kill yourself.

  17. Which homeroom would Obama go to?

    1. He’s Hawaiian, so Howley couldn’t teach it.

      1. Haole.

        1. Kerry Howley.

  18. I thought ‘spectre’ was the American spelling. I know I’ve often seen it spelled that way.

    1. I don’t think any American English word ends with -tre.

      centre, kilometre, litre, lustre, reconnoitre, saltpetre, spectre, theatre all end in -ter in American English.

    2. Because of James Bond it is accepted spelling in a normative dictionary

    3. Google has 43.4M results for “spectre” (with quotes to prevent it matching the other spelling) and only 25.5 M for “specter”. Compare 474M for “centre” and 1450M for “center”, so it’s clear the British spelling is unusually prevalent in the case of that word.

      1. That’s because the proper American spelling is “ghost”.

  19. Actually, they’re only separating the non-Black children, so it’s totally cool.

  20. Bach in high school there were (a few) black kids in some of my AP / honors classes.

    How the fuck would removing these kids from other students help them?

  21. But private enterprises should be able to discriminate based on race. No action in the private sphere can ever be delegitimized. Each one is an exercise of freedom, therefore good. Let a thousand flowers bloom!

    1. *yawn*

      As for the pic, Principal Bill is proof of the genius of this song by Frank Zappa:


      Hey! I’m only fourteen
      Sickly ‘n’ thin
      Tried all of my life
      Just to grow me a chin
      It popped out once
      But my dad pushed it in
      Why did he hurt me?
      He’s my next of kin…
      He’s a mex-i-kin

      I’m lonely ‘n’ green
      Too small for my shirt
      If Simmons was here
      I could feature my hurt
      Scared of the future
      Hope I don’t grow
      I know nobody likes me

    2. Ha ha ha, you do that so much better than me. It must be nice to be able to write without the barest hint of self-awareness.

      1. Bitch fight-entertain me 😉

        1. The only bitchfight is you with yourself. Just give in and kill yourself. You know you want to.

          1. God, you are a bore

            -I get it! You are trying to bore me to death. Libertarian murderer!!!

            1. You learned that from me, didn’t you?

    3. Leave me alone!

    4. Stop hitting me!

    5. Except that private enterprises which discriminate based on race are punished financially, shamed into ending it, or even go out of business. Public enterprises, on the other hand, are encouraged to discriminate, sometimes even required to do so.

      1. Except that private enterprises which discriminate based on race are punished financially, shamed into ending it, or even go out of business.

        It depends on the locale.

  22. In other news….

    …your hero Ayn Rand took social security benefits and medicare under the name “Ayn O’Connor” rather than live by her ideals…

    …tough month for you people…turning out to be a bunch of hypocrites and frauds…imagine that. Libertarianism for the masses, socialism for yourselves…i get it…

    1. interesting…stick around
      🙂

      1. And shut the fuck up, blogwhore cunt.

      2. You’re a boring asshole. Boring being the worst part.

        1. Warty Rectal why won’t you play with me?

          1. I think he’s afraid he might catch teh stoopid.

    2. You wouldn’t say that if you understood Nash equilibria. Learn some math, smartgai.

      1. Warty, why won’t you play with me? lol

        1. Warty has a fear of probing assholes.

    3. Why are you bitching about such a non-issue, SM?

      1. Because he was abused by a child, and blames libertarians.

    4. A victim of theft tried to reclaim her stolen property? *yawn*

      1. If Rand was a “victim”, she would have no shame in using her own name

        1. Ayn O’Connor was her real name. It’s even on her gravestone.

          1. your link was hilarious

        2. Everybody knows she was married to Frank, about whom she sometimes even wrote nice things. While she was cheating on him.

          1. I thought she was a lesbian

            1. She was too butch.

    5. I bet she used roads and public tranportation, too. How dare she!

      1. Bitch used the highways to transport her hurse-she was damn selfish in death too.

    6. Wow, she received $14,000 in total benefits. She would have paid that amount in if she had made around $150,000 in her lifetime. What a hypocrite. I could care less about her and her personality cult, but if that’s all you got — a person acting in her own self-interest to reclaim money she says was taken immorally — you got nothing.

      Until you fucktards eschew private goods and rely entirely on the government for jobs, pensions, schooling, food, cars, and every product under the sun that you piss on private enterprise for providing and improving, you can GTFO.

      1. GTFO? Go To Fucking Oklahoma?

        The only two things from Oklahoma are steers and queers

        1. That’s Texas, jack-ass.

          1. No that’s a movie quote Oakie

            1. only two things come from Oklahoma, steers and queers. I don’t see any horms so you must be a queer.

              Officer and a Gentleman, – 1982

            2. only two things come from Oklahoma, steers and queers. I don’t see any horms so you must be a queer.

              Officer and a Gentleman, – 1982

              1. And, the same quote appears, but about Texas, in Full Metal Jacket. I was half right.

                1. So you were both right. All of Texlahoma is populated by steers and queers. NTTAWWT

                2. considering that former marine drill instructor ermey wrote much of the dialogue (he was initially hired as a consultant but was hired as a performer when he impressed kubrick), i would suggest the quote mirrored military, specifically marines, reality.

    7. If you have private insurance, when you turn 65 you are placed on Medicare, regardless. Medicare pays first, then private insurance pays the difference.

      I don’t know exactly what Ms Rand’s situation was, but that’s pretty much how it works today.

  23. A Temple professor of something called “urban education”

    The inside joke is, Temple is where Philly area students go after they flunk out of a real college.

  24. LOL, send all the black kids with them please!

    privacy-tools.au.tc

    1. Is that a 426 Hemi, or one of the old “Fire Power” Hemis? The new “Hemis” aren’t really hemis, at all. They have polyspherical combustion chambers, like the old 318s and Buick “nailheads”.

  25. So, what does this “six minute Mentor” program entail, specifically?

    “Now, get out there and learn something today, you dummies!”

  26. The idea came from Angela Tilghman, an instructional coach at McCaskey East.

    She’s black. All they’re doing is giving black kids some extra perks, so this is just another example of minor-league anti-white/asian discrimination.

    And here’s why, even though the perks won’t make any difference:
    http://www.greatschools.org/mo…..#subgroups

  27. How would this policy survive strict scrutiny required for racial classifications in government policies?

  28. “We are no longer accepting comments on this article.”

    ROFLMAO!!

    Now, how did I know it was only a matter of time before the Mail posted that notice? I’m surprised they let the peasants speak their piece as long as they did… or at all. Damn, you can’t trust the peasants to express the right opinion at all these days, can you?

  29. Hit and Run commenters are the stupidest faggots on the Internet.

    (Your spellcheck may not think faggot is a word but I know the truth.)

  30. But this is not an extracurricular activity, a parochial school, or any other choice-based setting. This is the state monopoly laying its finger on a black kid and making him report to a different homeroom based on his race.

    I don’t think it’s quite as unique an event as you are making it out to be. The “system” makes race based decisions with respect to blacks from grade school all the way through employment.

    Now, it makes the decisions with blacks best interests in mind. It makes those decisions with the explicit aim of helping blacks get ahead. (Which is the case in this instance) But the fact remains that the system deliberately treats blacks differently. If you’re a libertarian, that is what is offensive and should be stopped.

  31. You know what is sad? Kids self-segregate in schools. I saw it all the time when I was substitute teaching. If seats were not assigned, black students would be on one side of the room and white students would drift to the other side.

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