The Assassin Who Would Save America from the Extreme Right
If political rhetoric can inspire murder, then it follows that those issuing warnings about the current "tone" in American discourse—those breathless invocations of "eliminationists" acting like "Brownshirts" and "fascists," those warning that the Republic is heading towards Weimar—could provoke the mentally unstable left-wing types, right? Now, I don't buy this argument either way, but when do warnings about the revolutionary intentions of the Tea Party or those who say the American government has been hijacked by Maoists and syndicalists and Bukharinists also count as dangerous incitement? Well, never. But let's play this game anyway (everyone else seems to be doing it, after all), and look for an example of a hyperpoliticized assassin attempting to save America from an impending far-right dictatorship.
We needn't look very far.
At his blog, Andrew Sullivan offers, without comment, a contemporaneous passage from historian William Manchester describing the political climate in the months before the 1963 assassination of President Kennedy—Swastikas daubed on Jewish stores, "radical Right polemics" showing up in schools, mainstream liberals being accused of harboring Red sympathies, and Dallas as "the mecca for medicine-show evangelists of the National Indignation Convention, the Christian Crusaders, the Minutemen, the John Birch and Patrick Henry societies."
Now many pundits have already pointed out that Oswald, who defected to the Soviet Union and agitated for Castro as a member of the "Fair Play for Cuba" committee, was the political opposite of a "radical right" knuckle-dragger; he was, in fact, a delusional loner who claimed he was motivated by opposition to Kennedy's Cold War foreign policy. (Proving that talent skips a generation, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. offers this baffling, almost Soviet piece of historical revisionism, blaming the far-right rhetoric of 1960s Texas for the assassination of his uncle by a far-left weirdo. He employs the same Manchester passage.)
But it is often forgotten, in the swamp of conspiracy theories and lurid fantasies of Sam Giancana and Judith Exner, that prior to shooting President Kennedy, Oswald made an attempt on the life of Gen. Edwin Walker, the far-right Birch Society activist who had denounced the Kennedy administration as "traitors" to America and urged "armed resistance" in order to force "the return of constitutional government." According to his wife Marina, Oswald said that to have murdered Walker would have been like murdering Hitler, saving America from a fascism and therefore saving countless innocent lives.
That extreme political environment in Texas, in which representatives of the paranoid right warned of Moscow plots to fluoridate the water supply, so worried Lee Harvey Oswald that he attempted to murder one of its most vocal and recognizable advocates. Allow me to co-opt the logic of the "dangerous rhetoric" brigades and suggest that this type of thinking must be bidirectional; we should therefore warn against too much vilification of those on the talk radio right, lest someone attempt to rid the United States of the pundit extremists that are threatening the very foundations of democracy.
Again, I don't buy any of this. But by the accepted standards of debate about "responsibility" for the actions of the mentally unstable, I must ask who is to blame when Oswald, who in the weeks before the attempt on Walker's life was photographed with copies of The Militant and The Worker, two tub-thumping communist newspapers that attacked the "terrorist" policies of the White House and the extremism of Walker, used violence to rid America of a "Hitlerian" threat? Of course, the answer is Lee Harvey Oswald. But remember, we are employing post-Giffords reasoning to the Kennedy assassination. In other words, using the logic set forth by people like Chris Matthews, by creating a fear that America has reached the historical nadir of political discourse, that talk radio figures are threatening the American way of life and democracy itself, aren't we signaling to the mentally unstable that the Republic must be saved from those who want to impose tyranny? You see how this silly game works?
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Umm... but Oswald didn't shoot JFK. Ever heard of the Grassy Knoll?!?!?!?!
In the photo on the left, is that Sarah Palin peaking out over the fence or is it a shadow?
Note to the New York Times: must credit East Bay Jay.
Oh, that's easy. It's clearly Sarah Palin's fault.
Nice game, pretty boy.
Think about what the left was saying under Bush.
"That old Hitler thing again".
It is a reasonable position to beleive 9-11 was an indside job.
He destroyed the Constitution
GUITMO was as bad as a Nazi death camp
Turning the country into a police state
If you honestly believed those things, why wouldn't you commit an act of violence, especially if you were a bit disturbed. If you honestly think it is 1933 Germany, how can you not take extreme measures?
You remember when Randi Rhodes wished that W's family would take him out on a fishing boat and do to him what happened to Fredo in the Godfather II?
Nah...that was all of 6 years ago. Down the Memory Hole with you.
You know what? Fuck 'em. In 6 months or so 98% of the public won't know Gabrielle Giffords from Kathy Lee. We just have to keep the hyperventilating crowd from passing a ton of ill-considered legislation until then.
I heard that the mooslums are building a mosque at ground zero!
Too soon!
Sacred Ground!
I hear ya!
Is it just me, or do those photos of Oswald look fake?
Don't give the left any ideas. In two days you're going to see that same picture with Sarah Palin's face pasted in and the MSM will insist that it's always been that way.
There was a whole blog thread in AZ saying this photo used in an AZ paper was faked until the reporter who wrote the story pointed to the Gabrielle Giffords Flickr account where she found it. But I agree with you on Oswald. If you take the color out of a picture you can make more elaborate fakes.
"That's the Democrat flag. Why not just run up the hammer and sickle while you're at it?"
The 60s weren't all bad.Things started going downhill after the defeat of Goldwater.
spoken like a white male.
Spoken like an anti-white racist.
What's even more telling is all the Jewish branch offices of the outrage industry freaking out over Palin's use of the term "blood libel", when they didn't bat an eye when Dems were comparing the 2000 Broward County butterfly ballot to the Holocaust.
Operation Stop Palin, we're on it!
Has anyone considered Sarah Palin's role in the JFK assassination? In November 1963 she was a fetus, could her irresponsible kicking in the womb have inspired Lee Harvey Oswald?
Hey! You may be on to something! Ever see her and Oswald in the same photo? Of course not: she was *impersonating* him!
A friend posted that Bobby Kennedy Jr. article in her Facebook feed. I haven't seen such shameless corpse-dragging in a long time.
Oswald looks an awful lot like Moynihan. I'mnotsayingI'mjustsaying
Oswald studied with Moynihan and Clinton in Moscow. How else would he be such an expert on Oswald?
Try as I might I simply cannot delude myself to the point that somehow this post will get through to the Sullivans of the world.
They can't see past their ideology, and they are smarter than you. Just ask them.
Everything Moynihan wrote here is accurate and verifiable, but why let facts get in the way of your ideology?
Maybe Obama is to blame. He urged folks in Arizona to "punish our enemies" - those who supported the Arizona immigration bill. Rep. Giffords supported that bill right?
Why aren't any of the screaming heads on TV speculating that this nutsack was merely carrying out the orders of the president? Mission accomplished, Obama?
Indeed, this is an easy game!
Racist!
Logic fail. Palin and Obama are in different 'clouds'. All the mass murderers in US history, anyone that has wronged you, and everyone you don't like is in Palin's 'cloud'. Obama's 'cloud' is filled mostly with bunny rabbits, unicorns and Rush Limbaugh 'fat suits' for party night. Respect the clouds, man.
It occurred to me that this was in the 1960s. Is it possible that eminent historian William Manchester could just have made stuff up? I lived in Texas for the last ten years, and continue to hear the most absurd nonsense about it. Maybe he was just doing a Krugman?
Manchester was a lefty, but having read 4 or 5 of his books, he seems to be entirely too good as an historian to hand out that sort of stuff.
But he might have done so in an interview; any links? Maybe Sullivan was 'sorta' quoting?
What was so bad about Weimar, anyway?
It created a climate of violence and made Hitler kill all those people.
Andrew who? Way too much time and effort spent on an excuse for a human...
Liberal Seek Ban on Metaphors
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=41150
According to documents from the National Archives (and a lot of stuff that was once held back that is now released) Oswald was working for Army Intelligence and was part of a program to attempt to plant agents in Soviet Russia. A program that did not fool the Soviets in the slightest. He was not a "lone wolf" and it is not even clear that he pulled a trigger.
Legacy of Secrecy is the book by the research team who guided the Congressional Committee charged with finding and demanding documents as part of a Clinton program to open all the files of all the intelligence agencies on the assassination.
Most of what we "know" about the assassination was just misinformation. As this is "Reason" magazine, maybe ya'll should do a little research so you can keep from promulgating long held myths.
It could very well be that LHO was aiming for Connally rather than JFK.
and 9/11 was an inside job and Obama was born in Africa. Proven by unreleased documents. Ya'll been watchin' too many movies made by commie symps.
This congresscritter managed to blame the shooting on both Sarah Palin and racism. He missed an opportunity, though. If he had worked in health care, it'd be a hat trick.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.....hp?ref=fpa
Hmm, so it comes down to a culture clash between the Old West and the Old South.
Lyndon Johnson and the CIA murdered John Kennedy in the 1963 Coup d'Etat:
Lyndon Johnson made a dirty deal with CIA Republicans to murder John Kennedy in the 1963 Coup d'Etat. (People like Clint Murchison Sr., H.L. Hunt, Nelson Rockefeller, David Rockefeller, top Nelson Rockefeller aide Henry Kissinger, George Herbert Walker Bush and Gen. Edward Lansdale all are excellent candidates for elite sponsorship.) Lyndon Johnson and Allen Dulles may very well have been co-CEOs of the JFK assassination; with the CIA in charge of the killing of JFK, and Lyndon Johnson and (his close friend and neighbor of 19 years in Washington, DC) FBI director J. Edgar Hoover in charge of the cover up.
Clint Murchison, Sr ? more so than even H.L. Hunt ? was a key player in the JFK assassination because of his close ties to the inner core of US intelligence (Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller, John J. McCloy), close ties to Lyndon Johnson and J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI, bankers Rockefellers; Murchison was even friends with key Kennedy-hater mafia godfather Carlos Marcellos of New Orleans. Not only that, Murchison, Sr. was a patient and partner of Dr. Alton Oschner, the former president of the American Cancer Society and who ran covert cancer research for the CIA. Oschner, likewise was a Kennedy-hater. John Simkin: "One of Ochsner's friends described him as being 'like a fundamentalist preacher in the sense that the fight against communism was the only subject that he would talk about, or even allow you to talk about, in his presence."
When JFK was slaughtered, Russia's Khrushchev was literally crying, fearing nuclear war. Cuba's Castro worried and feared an US invasion and gave an impressive speech the next day deconstructing the CIA's deception provocation for war. Meanwhile at Clint Murchison's home, their family maid May Newman describes the scene: "The mood in the Murchison family home was very joyous and happy. For a whole week after like champagne and caviar flowed, every day of the week. But I was the only one in that household at that time that felt any grief for his assassination."
The Warren Commission should have really been called the "Allen Dulles Commission" because he controlled it and made it the farce that it was. Dulles was probably an elite sponsor (i.e. murderer), as well as certainly Lyndon Johnson. The 3 hardcore cover up artists on the Warren Commission were the 3 Council on Foreign Relations members: Allen Dulles (president CFR 1946-50), John J. McCloy (then chairman of the CFR 1953-1970) and Gerald Ford (CFR member, later president). John J. McCloy was a Rockefeller man, former head of Chase Manhattan bank, and very deep US intelligence since the OSS days. John J. McCloy's nickname was "Chairman of the American Establishment," and he mixed at the highest levels of business, intelligence and he was close to the Kennedy-hating Texas business elite. Cover up artist Gerald Ford was secretly reporting to Hoover and the FBI what the Warren Commission was doing. In 1970, Newsweek called Gerald Ford the CIA's "best friend in Congress." The CFR especially 40 years ago, was heavily Rockefeller influenced and it top players were deep CIA.
The CIA has been called the military wing of the CFR; and actually that is not too far from the truth. The CFR was in its heyday from 1950-1990.
Here is an absolutely spectacular article why the National Security State murdered John Kennedy: http://www.lewrockwell.com/ori.....l10.1.html John Kennedy was despised by and did not control his CIA nor his Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Lyndon Johnson's reasons to murder were out of his deep desperation and fear of what would become of him after his imminent expulsion from the 1964 Democratic ticket and his fears of going to jail over the exploding Bobby Baker scandal. LIFE magazine, being fed extremely damaging info by Robert Kennedy, was set to run an expose on Lyndon Johnson's corruption that would blow him out of the water once and for all (Dec. 6th issue, but due to be printed and mailed on 11/29/63: source James Wagenvoord who worked at LIFE then). Bobby Baker was the prot?g? of a wildly corrupt LBJ in the Senate; Lyndon Johnson was like both a dad and a big brother to Bobby Baker (who named two of his children after LBJ: Lynda and Lyndon). Both Lyndon Johnson and Bobby Baker were receiving tremendous amounts of under-the-table money while Johnson was running the Senate. The Kennedys and LIFE Magazine were literally days away from politically executing Lyndon Johnson with the rope of the unraveling Bobby Baker scandal. After vaporizing the despised Lyndon Johnson, John Kennedy was going to replace LBJ most likely with Terry Sanford of North Carolina or possibly his good friend George Smathers of Florida as VP on the 1964 Democratic ticket.
The Kennedys and Lyndon Johnson were having a sub rosa fight: Jack and Robert Kennedy brought knives to the battle and Lyndon Johnson brought guns and it was settled on 11/22/63 at 12:30 PM in Dallas.
Lately, I have been studying the role of McGeorge Bundy, the National Security Advisor for JFK and Henry Cabot Lodge, JFK's insubordinate ambassador to Vietnam who Kennedy was planning to fire on Monday, 11/25/63. It is probable that both McGeorge Bundy and Henry Cabot Lodge were involved some way with the JFK assassination. McGeorge Bundy, astonishingly, was already drafting sharp escalations to JFK's Vietnam policy NSAM 273 (which JFK would not have approved) on 11/21/63, the night before the 1963 Coup d'Etat! Bundy later ran the Ford Foundation from 1966-1979.
JFK's Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, who ran the Rockefeller Foundation from 1952-1961, and was also a hawk on Vietnam, is another one who merits close scrutiny in the Coup of 1963. Kennedy had appointed Rusk because it was unlikely that the Senate would confirm JFK's first choice J. William Fulbright, who later became a prominent opponent of the Vietnam War. After the 1963 Coup d'Etat, Rusk lasted through all the blood and guts of Vietnam and all the way through Jan., 1969, as Johnson's Secretary of State. Walt Rostow (CFR), another Vietnam hawk, replaced McGeorge Bundy (CFR) as National Security Advisor in 1966. The CFR and the Rockefellers, not John Kennedy, lusted for the Vietnam War.
The midlevel murderers (field operations) of JFK would include CIA guys like Richard Helms, James Angleton, David Morales, William King Harvey, E. Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis, David Atlee Phillips and perhaps Cord Meyer. Deputy Harry Weatherford is a good candidate to have been on the Records Building as a sniper. Influential mobster Johnny Roselli was especially close friends with the CIA's William King Harvey, a rabid Kennedy hater. The most likely mafia godfathers involved would be Carlos Marcello and Santos Trafficante, particularly in the Jack Ruby murder of Oswald and perhaps in the JFK Assassination as well and other murders in the post assassination cover up.
We now know Lyndon Johnson was far worse than he is presented in current biographies. Far beyond ballot stuffing, bribery, massive under-the-table kickbacks, and being a consummate and pathological liar, Lyndon Johnson was murdering a lot of people in Texas to cover up his eye popping corruption. A prime example is the murder of US agricultural official Henry Marshall in June, 1961, and who then Vice President Lyndon Johnson arranged to have murdered. In the 1980's, Billie Sol Estes, a close and corrupt partner of LBJ, began confessing to the murders that he, Lyndon Johnson, Cliff Carter and LBJ's personal hit man Malcolm Wallace committed. Lyndon Johnson, a manic depressive ? and at times a barely functioning psychopath - murdered perhaps 10-20 people to avoid exposure before he got his knife wet with John Kennedy's blood.
We now know that Lyndon Johnson and Sam Rayburn with Hoover's dossier on JFK, used sexual blackmail threats on John Kennedy on the night of July 13th at the 1960 Democratic convention in Los Angeles to force Kennedy to put LBJ on the ticket. Johnson was not on JFK's short list for VP; he was not on the long list. LBJ was not on the VP list ? period. Evelyn Lincoln, JFK's secretary for 11+ years, says Lyndon Johnson blackmailed JFK to force his way on the 1960 Democratic ticket.
My current thinking on US intelligence agent Lee Harvey Oswald is that he was indeed involved in the JFK assassination, but he was a patsy who shot NO ONE that day, neither John Kennedy nor Officer J.D. Tippit. Both murders were complete frame jobs. Oswald was a fake defector to Russia and his behavior in New Orleans 1963 was all about Oswald's sheep dipping as he passed out pro-Castro flyers and pretended to be a "pro-Castro Marxist." Meanwhile Oswald was working in concert in New Orleans with folks like David Ferrie and Guy Bannister whose politics were the equivalent of a 1960's Strom Thurmond or Jesse Helms. Oswald's fake public persona as a "pro-Casto Marxist" meant that he was an ideal pick as a patsy and his likely knowledge of and/or participation in the JFK Assassination meant that he had to be murdered quickly. The folks who killed Oswald wanted a "dead Red" not a "talking head." The JFK assassination was a deception provocation intended to facilitate a US military invasion of Cuba. It was that bad and ugly. A US invasion of Cuba might have provoked a broader war with Russia and from the point of view of some like Air Force General Curtis LeMay that was fine because, astoundingly, he wanted to wage and "win" a nuclear WWIII. Curtis LeMay hated Kennedy so much that a child could have recruited him into a plot to kill Kennedy. LeMay told Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis that he was an appeaser equivalent to Neville Chamberlain for not bombing Cuba.
That was the pool of sharks John Kennedy was swimming in: a desperate and psychopathic serial killer Vice-President Lyndon Johnson who was literally murdering a string of people down in Texas and who was waging a sub rosa war with the Kennedys, an out-of-control CIA hell bent on a coup; an FBI director Hoover who detested JFK and who was close friends and neighbors with LBJ, and a JCS military brass who wanted to invade Cuba, wage the war in Vietnam, and Curtis Lemay who, according to Robert McNamara, wanted to wage full scale nuclear war with Russia, giving them the "Sunday punch" while the USA still had first strike capability. Add to that the white hot mafia hatred that Robert Kennedy was engendering with his prosecutions. This same mafia had been working hand in glove with their friends the CIA to take out Castro in Cuba. Think of these enemies of JFK as fasces: "a bundle of wooden sticks with an axe blade emerging from the center, which is an image that traditionally symbolizes summary power and jurisdiction, and/or strength through unity."
The elite domestic murderers of JFK did it for many reasons, both personal and ideological. At the core it was Lyndon Johnson, the CIA, and the shadow government of Texas oil barons and the Rockefellers. It was not either/or the Western "Cowboys" or the Eastern "Yankees" who murdered John Kennedy: it was the elites of both.
I always want to learn and I am always willing to change my mind. Two excellent books to read on the JFK assassination are 1) LBJ: Mastermind of JFK's Assassination (2010) by Phillip Nelson and 2) JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why it Matters (2008) by James Douglass. Review:
Richard Nixon knew the dirty truth about the JFK assassination, but I do not think he was directly involved. In fact, when Nixon was under intense Watergate pressure, his firewall strategy as recorded on the "smoking gun tape" was to ominously say don't investigate me because it you do "the President believes that this is going to open up the whole Bay of Pigs thing again" ? an obvious reference to the JFK assassination. Nixon's aide Dean Burch said that when George Herbert Walker Bush heard that "He broke out in assholes and shit himself to death." GHW Bush was probably an elite planner of the JFK assassination.
Without a doubt, top honors for being biggest source for disinformation on the Coup of 1963 has been the NY Times whose reporting on the JFK assassination has been the equivalent of 1950's Soviet style propaganda, i.e. completely fraudulent and parroting the 1960's fantastic whoppers of LBJ, FBI, CIA and the Warren Commission. CBS News, ABC News, the Washington Post and the former LIFE magazine and CIA assets in other major media have been equally bad. LIFE Magazine actually bought the rights to the Zapruder film early on and never showed it once to the American people in video form., which would have revealed the incriminating "back and to the left" head snap of John Kennedy, all but proving a kill shot from the Grassy Knoll (grassy knoll shooting area being an extremely close 33 yards away from JFK). Finally, when American hero Robert Groden showed the Zapruder film on Geraldo on ABC in 1975, millions of Americans knew without a doubt what a sham the Warren Commission was.
A special word about the Council on Relations role in the 1963 Coup d'Etat and cover up: no other organization has been more responsible for the murder and cover up of John Kennedy than the CFR. Elite CFR members such as Allen Dulles, Nelson Rockefeller and George Herbert Walker Bush were probably sponsors of the JFK assassination. Certainly leadership CFR members such as Allen Dulles, John J. McCloy, and Gerald Ford played the most critical roles in the Warren Commission farce. Add in cover up roles played by Nelson Rockefeller (CFR), Henry Kissinger (CFR), Richard Helms (CFR), William Colby CIA/CFR, McGeorge Bundy (CFR), Nicholas Katzenbach (CFR), Jack Valenti (CFR), Bill Moyers (CFR), William Coleman (CFR) James Reston NY Times (CFR), Anthony Lewis NY Times (CFR), Walter Cronkite CBS (CFR), Dan Rather CBS (CFR), Peter Jennings ABC (CFR), Daniel Schorr (CFR), Arthur Ochs Sulzberger NY Times (CFR), Kenneth Gilmore Readers' Digest (CFR), Stephen Rosenfeld Washington Post (CFR), Bobbie Ray Inman (CFR), Donald Rumsfeld (CFR)? the list is almost endless. Note two things: 1) they are the key establishment players of BOTH major political parties spanning decades 2) their power and influence is directly proportional to the fantastic whoppers they tell about in the 1963 Coup d'Etat. For the older CFR members it is a case of PARTICIPATION and COVER UP in the JFK assassination. For the younger ones such as George Will (CFR), Charles Krauthammer (CFR), Bill Kristol (CFR), David Gergen (CFR), John Segenthaler (CFR), Frank Sesno (CFR), Michael Beschloss (CFR), Michael Gerson (CFR) it is a case of WILLFUL IGNORANCE as they still push the Big Lie. Note: Chris Matthews of Hardball, another willfully ignorant man, is close friends with Richard Haass, current president of CFR. I have never seen the highly acclaimed political guru Michael Barone, a Bilderberger attendee, ever say anything credible on the JFK assassination.
Question: do we really expect the CFR to admit that some of its elite members slaughtered John Kennedy and many more played integral roles in the cover up? No, but it is important to highlight that the Council on Foreign Relations has stunk up the place with tremendous amounts of radioactive horse manure relating to the 1963 Coup d'Etat.
The 1963 Coup d'Etat was very similar to the 1992 election between George Herbert Walker Bush, Ross Perot and Bill Clinton. In 1963, there was a Texas Vice President, a desperate and dangerous Lyndon Johnson - supported by the CFR, the intelligence agencies, military contractors and the oil industry - who feared exposure of his criminality and was on the verge of political and personal annihilation. So Lyndon Johnson used the CIA to murder his political rival John Kennedy.
In the 1992, there was a Texas President, a desperate and dangerous George Herbert Walker Bush, supported by the CFR, the intelligence agencies, military contractors and the oil industry - who feared exposure of his criminality and was on the verge of political and personal annihilation. Ross Perot was well aware of the gargantuan Bush/Clinton/CIA drug smuggling of the 1980's. So George Herbert Walker Bush used CIA assassins to threaten to murder Ross Perot. GHW Bush feared what Perot, a self-funded (and therefore uncontrollable) billionaire might do in office. Bush, like LBJ 29 years before, faced both political and personal annihilation if an untainted Ross Perot were elected.
Ross Perot was leading in a Time/CNN poll in June, 1992, with 37% to 24% Clinton, 24% Bush. On July 16, 1992, Ross Perot, a billionaire who could self-fund and was leading in the polls significantly, QUIT the presidential race because he feared that a desperate George Herbert Walker Bush might assassinate him. Google "Chip Tatum Pegasus" and read about the elite CIA assassin who quit rather than do what George Herbert Walker Bush had ordered him to do:
An incensed Perot later got back in the race only to ensure the election of Bill Clinton.
I think that George Herbert Walker Bush became a made man with the JFK assassination in 1963. One of the first things the Bill Clinton CFR did after he got elected in 1992 was to ask Webb Hubbell at Justice to find out who really killed John Kennedy.
The Discovery Channel has put out some incredibly bogus, poorly done disinfo presentations such as Inside the Target Car. Any MSM site that features Vincent Bugliosi, Gerald Posner, especially Hugh Aynesworth, Edward Jay Epstein, Gus Russo, Michael Shermer, Dale Meyers, Max Holland, Dave Perry or Gary Mack prominently and positively is giving you counterfeit money. Edward Epstein and Gerald Posner in particular are thought by many credible JFK researchers to be CIA propagandists. If you google "JFK assassination" the first 2 links that come up are lone nutter controlled disinfo sites: 1) Wikipedia 2) John McAdam's site. John McAdams is a very lowly regarded man who basically controls JFK related content on Wikipedia as well as his own site. Both Wikipedia and the NY Times are both tremendously dishonest sources for information relating to the 1963 Coup d'Etat. Finally, another major source of disinformation on the Coup of 1963 is the Sixth Floor Museum in Dallas, which blithely recycles the shredded vapors of the Warren Commission, as if it had an ounce of truth in it. Gary Mack, the curator of the Sixth Floor Museum, simply does not have credibility on the JFK assassination.
In the near future there are going to be efforts by both Tom Hanks (HBO series) and Leonardo DiCaprio (a movie) to take on the JFK assassination. Sadly, these are both going to be disinformation efforts; the ONLY legitimate take on the JFK assassination is that it was a full blown domestic coup d'etat. Tom Hanks is a clueless lone nutter.
The best discussion boards on the internet for good info are 1) Education Forum 2) Deep Politics Forum 3) JFK murdersolved.cm and 5) Mary Ferrell Foundation ? 6) JFK Lancer. On Facebook, the premier spot is JFK-The Grassy Knoll Witnesses (run by Rusty Yardum) . Black Op radio's web site (Len Osanic) is an excellent place to listen to high quality interviews with folks such as JFK expert Jim DiEugenio. Deep Politics Quarterly (Walt Brown) and (Jim DiEugenio) are 2 other quality spots on the internet.
As for videos, I highly recommend going to You Tube and watching the extremely important The Men Who Killed Kennedy - (episodes 7, 8, and 9). Much of these episodes focus on the role of Lyndon Johnson in the 1963 Coup d'Etat and they were BANNED from the History Channel because they were so accurate. LBJ aide Jack Valenti (CFR) organized a suppression campaign on the videos along with Lady Bird Johnson, Warren Commission con man Gerald Ford (CFR), Jimmy Carter (CFR) and Bill Moyers (CFR). Also, watch Jesse Ventura's 2010 Conspiracy Theory show on the JFK assassination (on You Tube
In addition, I recommend JFK the movie by Oliver Stone, director's cut. Oliver Stone, despite immense criticism in the MSM by CIA assets, pretty much nailed the JFK assassination. It was a full blown Coup d'Etat by Lyndon Johnson, the CIA and key elements of the U.S. military.
Robert Morrow is a political researcher with over 200+ books on the 1963 Coup d'Etat, aka JFK assassination. His email is Morrow321@aol.com and he accepts phone calls at 512-306-1510.
This is silly.
Morrow knows LBJ's plans brought down the WTC. We all know steel can't melt.
Some-one tell Morrow that once more
than 2 people are involved, it?s over.
With that list, the only one missing is Palin.
Maybe she was on the grassy knoll in her stroller, being pushed by Mr X.
No, not Mr. X, The Smoking Man.
It's all fun and games on the chalkboard until someone gets shot.
David Brock: "Glenn Beck Himself Has Been Responsible For Three Thwarted Assassination Attempts This Year." On January 12, Brock appeared on Hardball to discuss whether the violent rhetoric on cable news shows may have led to the shooting in Tucson, Arizona, that injured Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ). During the exchange with host Chris Matthews, Brock alleged that "Glenn Beck himself has been responsible for three thwarted assassination attempts this year":
MATTHEWS: I think we used to say, maybe back in the Churchillian age, your voice was your power, your ability to speak up. That's certainly Norman Rockwell's notion, the man, you know -- the standing up at a meeting, at a public meeting and saying, "Here's what I believe." But, now, it's standing up with your arms, standing up with your ammo, your gun sites, your bull's eye.
Why do you have -- this is a problem I have with the tea party. Why so many guns at these events? Why constantly referring to guns? What is it? Is it a throwback to the revolutionary age? They think they're in an armed revolution?
BROCK: Right. What does the tea party moniker stand for? Armed rebellion, right? This has been a theme of the Republican candidates and of Sarah Palin all year.
MATTHEWS: Excuse me. History lesson: The Boston tea party was a nonviolent economic statement against the Stamp Act, I believe. They threw the tea in the water. No guns.
BROCK: That's right.
MATTHEWS: They dressed up like Indians. It was a demonstration. It was street theater, OK? No guns.
BROCK: But this is not street theater, as you know. I mean, Glenn Beck himself has been responsible for three thwarted assassination attempts this year, and Sarah Palin hasn't condemned that.
MATTHEWS: How is he responsible for them?
BROCK: Well, you want to know what they are?
MATTHEWS: You said it.
BROCK: Yeah, sure. So, he burned Nancy Pelosi in effigy on his set. He tried to poison her with a chalice, OK? Some weeks later, somebody tried to firebomb Nancy Pelosi's house. That guy's mother went on television and said he gets all of his ideas from Fox News. Do you know about Senator Patty Murray and the death threat that she got?
MATTHEWS: No, go ahead.
BROCK: OK. It's recorded -- the guy says after the health care vote. He says you have a target on your back and I can accomplish what I want to accomplish with one bullet. Now he's tried, convicted, and in the sentencing phase, his cousin writes in for leniency, and she describes in a very chilling memo -- it's on our website -- that he was slowly drawn into Glenn Beck's world. And she portrays the guy, the attempted assassin, Charlie Wilson, as a victim of Beck.
And number three, which you probably do know about, this liberal foundation in San Francisco was targeted by a gunman, Byron Williams, in June. The shooter gave jailhouse interviews, and we published them, and he says Glenn Beck is this schoolteacher on television and points to specific episodes of the Glenn Beck show that inspired him do it. [MSNBC, Hardball with Chris Matthews, 1/12/11]
Let's not forget O'Reily threats to George Tiller which resulted in him being assasinated.
That makes 4 assassination attempts from the propaganda station.
The truth hurts.
Durr hurr... my mental faculties are so weak and depraved, I act based on something I think a guy on TV said.
Yup, there's your answer - it's not the fault of the jerkwad that actually undertakes to perform all of the actions leading up to and necessary for the crime - it's the fault of some talking head on TV or radio - he "made" him do it, after all.
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Is Morrow really David Brock?
Hurr durr!!
Oh jeez, my mental faculties are so weak and depraved that I commit violent crimes based on what I perceive some talking head on TV or radio said.
Great fucking reasoning - it's not the fault of the nutbag who actually undertakes to perform all of the actions necessary to prepare for and actually commit the crime - nope, it's the fault of some guy who said something on TV. Because, after all, he's got such magical and powerful forces of mind control that he "caused" the killer to do it.
Of course, the tens of millions of other people who also watched that show didn't go out and kill anyone, so they must have some special extra resistance to Glenn Beck's mind rays.
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in the beginning was the word...
1) The Oswald photo has been determined to be genuine and Marina recalls taking it. It is delusional to think otherwise.
2) I've never once read a single accusation, not even by the most warped conspiracy theorists, that Oswald ever mentioned the fluoridation of the water. Others did at that time, but whatever motivated Oswald, it was not fluoridation. Oswald moved around quite a bit. He was not a Dallas native (He was born in New Orleans and moved all over the place often). His politics, such as they were, may have been born in New York (he lived in the Bronx for a while), but it doesn't matter. The "climate of hate" in Dallas (a nonsensical slur) had no effect on him at all. He moved to the USSR, long before moving to Dallas. He supported Castro while living in New Orleans. He tried to return to the USSR (via Mexico) while living in New Orleans and after failing to do that, he moved into a converted closet in a rooming house (which is why belief that he carried curtain rods to the Book depository that day is silly. The room had no windows). He couldn't have told you the name of the mayor of Dallas. He wanted to be a hero of the revolution and thought killing someone prominent would do it for him. He first tried Walker (the nuts can't get past the ballistics tests) and then providence gave him Kennedy (more ballistics tests, plus his fingerprints are all over the murder weapon) that cannot be refuted). Like Loughner he was just another nut, who became famous for killing an unsuspecting politician.
Quit trying to bring reason and sanity to this argument. If everyone thought like you we would not have all those great documentarians like Oliver Stone to tell us the truth.
Organized Leftism instantly vented the hate it feels towards Whites at all time. This is the same as in 1963.
Good article. Throughout history, there have been assassins and terrorists who were primarily motivated by political ideology. But Oswald wasn't one of them, and it's unlikely that Loughner was, either.
A bitter, unsuccessful young male who feels he is not getting the happiness he deserves from life is a potentially dangerous presence in any society. Add hopelessness, emotional instability and delusions of grandeur to the mix, and you have the recipe for an Oswald or, likely, Loughner.
Any attachment to political ideology by an individual like this is a matter of convenience. Oswald adopted anti-fascism to justify attacking a right-wing radical like Walker, but a short time later felt just as comfortable assassinating a liberal Democrat. You'll find more ideological coherence in Charles Manson's actions.
Oswald was primarily motivated by a desire to make history by killing, not by ideology. Like Donald Rumsfeld after 9-11, Oswald was just looking for "good targets." Violence as a solution had already been decided upon -- the next part of the process was finding a good recipient. Ideological justification was just a third, minor part of the sequence.
I would hold left-wing bloggers accountable for incitement of violence if they wrote things like,
"The clock is ticking. . . . The war is just beginning. . . . Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government. . . . You have to be prepared to take rocks to the head. . . . The other side is attacking. . . . There is a coup going on. . . . Grab a torch! . . . Drive a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers. . . . They are taking you to a place to be slaughtered. . . . They are putting a gun to America's head. . . . Hold these people responsible."
Just saying the Right is a threat to democracy is not incitement, just as when the Right says the Left is guilty of treason it is also not incitement.
Both the Left and the Right ought to work toward a workable, mutually agreeable definition of incitement.